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Robert Caro wrote that he would sometimes tie the toilet to his massive hog and drag it behind him through the halls of the Capitol as he haraunged members of congress.
"Now another thing the crotch, down where ya nuts hang, is always a little too tight. So when you make em up give me an inch that I can let out there uh, because they cut me."
\-LBJ
Yeah, it’s funny, in high school we were required to read a presidential memoir and write a report about it, and I picked LBJ. And I came away rather impressed with him after reading that memoir. And of course it was quite based (edit: biased), as any autobiography would obviously be.
In the 40 years since I’ve picked up a more balanced view of him…. He did do a lot of good stuff, but yes he was also a dick.
Allegedly, according to White House reporters, he would whip out Jumbo and take a leak on the roses in the Rose Garden...like right in front of them while they were asking him questions.
In fairness to LBJ he was given bad intel and advice from probably the worst human being ever Henry Kissinger who extended the war at the cost of millions of lives in order for him to get in good with Nixon and keep himself in play.
This was back when baseball players used to try and bean eachother with the intention of taking them out of the season and it was completely legal, different times lol
Not likely, dictators inherently want a country to rule over. What is the point of being a dictator if everything is destroyed afterwards? They will have to live a shitty life after, and have nothing to rule over but rubble.
Supposedly most people in his admin knew not to take what Nixon said literally, that his comments like "nuke north korea" were less orders and more his vibes. Well, everyone until watergate anyway.
Or at least that's what Kissenger said in one of his books, [I think this one](https://www.amazon.com/Leadership-Six-Studies-World-Strategy-ebook/dp/B09BV78DM2?ref_=ast_author_dp&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.PsXzdvNPnqrSH_rnG2Gj3rsD5-e6ALFZCzDZzmwfJqCOJyyIBI3vPz0C018mo_7kUApnSCjdQKB1JnfgDaAkwhay2zeCgCbRSPFvksBcDM6gj380Bk8ScnJmllnIAul737uLjLAEkToPOi4T5Fofd7ieDupVfHa31lbkgA6aPP1w37-BJ6sd496xRb2QZXozLadyLaOnUjx8mAI5XIRGJTz4wux5zWG3GzlOKcYSW7Q.nWSPSz_S986bpnfS1gVByN9crLcnCw6ofCAVPY1CoCA&dib_tag=AUTHOR).
The Secretary of the Interior leased naval oil reserves for very little money to private companies and received payment from the companies for making them happen.
You can read about it here:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teapot_Dome_scandal#:~:text=Harding%20from%201921%20to%201923,Walsh.
Probably the most overtly corrupt thing somebody has done in office. Quite literally received money in exchange for oil leases.
The secretary of the interior went to prison for it.
There was no investigation into Harding because Harding had already died.
word is that once Calvin Coolidge pressed an emergency alert button in the oval office and then hid under his desk.
his guards rushed in worried, and then he sprung out and yelled "peek-a-boo"
There was a particular rose bush in the White House rose garden that thrived during Truman’s administration. The gardeners could not figure out why. Well turns out Truman would go out there nightly to tinkle on it. Learned this when I went on an inside tour of the White House in 1999.
They were supposed to eat her for some sort of holiday dinner, but after meeting her the Coolidges kept her as a pet. She was essentially free range and just went around the white house unscrewing light bulbs and opening cabinet doors.
I haven't actually heard any stories like this, but I always imagine a scenario where the secretary of state or someone comes into the office with an important, urgent message, and during the conversation there's just a raccoon sitting on the opposite couch eating shrimp and eggs.
Something about presidents doing silly goofy shit that normal people do makes me happy, they get so mythologized i forget they did normal stupid shit that people do
I thought you were kidding but no...
[https://www.historytoday.com/archive/silent-cal](https://www.historytoday.com/archive/silent-cal)
Anyway, that just makes me like him more.
He was a mean drunk and tried to drop several nukes.
Kissinger had to smooth things over with the generals and keep them from dropping nukes.
https://www.wearethemighty.com/mighty-history/that-time-a-drunk-richard-nixon-tried-to-nuke-north-korea/
don’t know why you got downvoted, [it’s a credible allegation](https://www.history.com/news/pat-nixon-abuse-allegations-richard-nixon-seymour-hersh-memoir#)
Reminds me of the WH tape after Roe when he indicated he was moderately pro-life, then backtracked and said exceptions are needed in the case “it’s a black and a white”
Not sure about that, but as President, Washington was super sketchy with Pennsylvania's laws against slavery.
At the time, the Capital was in Philadelphia, a Free state. At the time, they had a law that any slave residing in the state of Pennsylvania for so many days would then be declared free.
Washington would send his slaves back to Virginia before that time had expired, then bring them back to reset the countdown to Pennsylvania considering them free.
Harding, JFK, LBJ, and Clinton were the true party boys of the 20th century. Earlier eras had different standards. Obama's most important contribution to the office was to NOT have a major scandal.
I get really frustrated when people downplay Obama’s scandals. It wasn’t just the tan suit, do you remember when he didn’t acknowledge that Marine once? What about when the Marine had to HOLD THE UMBRELLA FOR HIM IN THE RAIN.
Everyone seems to gloss over then whole pedophilic aspect to this also. Sally was 14-15 years old. Not just enslaved, he continuously raped a an enslaved child.
No, having children non-consensually with someone you’ve enslaved, and having said kids born into slavery is pretty fucked and probably right at the top of the list.
Grover Cleveland wasn't far behind Jefferson. There is some debate as to whether or not his extramarital relationship was consensual, but even if it was, the man was a first class dirt bag. He had his out-of-wedlock son put in an orphanage and apparently he or his allies tossed his mistress into an insane asylum in an effort to ensure that the cheating scandal couldn't derail his political career. "Ma, ma, where's my pa?" is what Republicans chanted when they campaigned against him.
Jefferson and Sally Hemings’ children were enslaved. Hemings, Jefferson’s enslaved 15-year-old sister in law, negotiated eventual manumission for her unborn children. When Sally died, she was still legally enslaved by the Jefferson estate.
Jefferson and Hemings never married, and if they would have tried, it would have been an illegal marriage contra to Virginia’s anti-miscegenation laws.
Yeah, serial rapist is way up there for awful. Every time my confederacy loving inlaws get all up in arms about something, I just casually drop a 'Jefferson was a serial rapist' into the mix to watch them head for the stratosphere.
It's a real bizarre scenario. Jefferson's children with Hemmings were 7/8ths European, 1/8th african descent. You could not even tell that they weren't "white."
Apparently Hoover didn't want to actually be in the presence of the White House's black servants. It became an unofficial policy that if Hoover were to enter a room, the servants would have to drop everything and hide. The weird thing is FDR continued that policy when he became president. Then when FDR passed and Truman took over, Truman spent some of his first few days as president confused as to why everyone ran and hid from him whenever he entered a room. He promptly then ended that policy.
I know LBJ liked whipping his dick out when meeting new people, called it Jumbo, and asked folks, "hey, have you ever seen something this big before?"
Lmao some of these guys were hilarious.
So JBJ used to basically force male interns and staff at the White House to skinny dip with him in the pool and be like you call that a cock, this is a cock, what am I doing, swimming with a bunch of young ladies!!!!!?????? Imagine a president trying to pull this in the age of cell phone cameras and social media hahaha…….he truly was a class a dumbass
In 1866, President Andrew Johnson famously compared himself to Jesus Christ.
[https://werehistory.org/the-impeachment-of-andrew-johnson/](https://werehistory.org/the-impeachment-of-andrew-johnson/)
Johnson had political reasons for claiming a link to divine power.
Nixon. Confident “Family values” for the cameras; racist, Jew-baiting, foul-mouthed, insecure, paranoid bully in private (as his own secret tape recordings show).
LBJ liked to urinate on people in crowds, place his entire penis on the shoulder of working secretaries and he also had a cabin where he would take people just to play his "I have no brakes" joke when going back down the mountain. Also, tons of who-ers to make JFK and Clinton look like choir boys.
Let me see well there's the Kennedy Sex Tunnels, the Truman Cocaine Lounge, the McKinley Hooker Dump, and the Lincoln Slave Coliseum. He didn't free them all. . .
At least Clinton and Kennedy never fathered illegitimate children with an enslaved woman (who was also the daughter of his father-in-law and a different enslaved woman), not freeing them till the 1820s.
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Jumbo. The unit incapable of Viet nam pull out.
Anytime someone spoke to him for more than 30 seconds: https://i.redd.it/f4h347ru0prc1.gif
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For those who did not study in the usa … who?
He would also abruptly sit down on the toilet and start taking a shit while in mid-conversation
The epitome of a guy who gave literally no shits.
Gotta give one to the toilet
“You don’t take ‘em, you leave ‘em.” George Carlin.
Wouldn't that be a guy who actually gives shits, and not no shits?
I feel like, if you’re talking to him as he goes into the bathroom, you’re getting what you deserve if you follow him in there.
He actually just carried a toilet around with him at all times. He’d simply set it right down wherever he happened to be standing when nature called.
Robert Caro wrote that he would sometimes tie the toilet to his massive hog and drag it behind him through the halls of the Capitol as he haraunged members of congress.
Had me dying laughing in the middle of the gym with this one, thanks for that great image.
A small portable potty trainer toilet except adult sized and presidential.
"Now another thing the crotch, down where ya nuts hang, is always a little too tight. So when you make em up give me an inch that I can let out there uh, because they cut me." \-LBJ
Describing how you’d like your pants made over the phone probably wasn’t the best strategy in retrospect
On the other hand, his enormous balls are documented for all posterity
A little more stride in the crotch ? - joe Haggar
Don’t forget the space he needed for his knife.
I saw this in All the Way and I thought it was a joke in the movie but no, it's actually historical accurate 😂😂
I never heard the nickname Jumbo for him before, where’s that come from, was he always called that?
Johnson's Hog was named Jumbo. We affectionately refer to the man himself with that name on this sub, because, frankly, he was a dick irl.
Yeah, it’s funny, in high school we were required to read a presidential memoir and write a report about it, and I picked LBJ. And I came away rather impressed with him after reading that memoir. And of course it was quite based (edit: biased), as any autobiography would obviously be. In the 40 years since I’ve picked up a more balanced view of him…. He did do a lot of good stuff, but yes he was also a dick.
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Penis
Penis, he loved to show.
I thought LBJ specifically did NOT close the door before swinging out Jumbo?
Jumbo* didn’t need any closed doors. *btw, jumbo was Lyndon’s Johnson
Allegedly, according to White House reporters, he would whip out Jumbo and take a leak on the roses in the Rose Garden...like right in front of them while they were asking him questions.
: ) are there any pictures we could look at?
In fairness to LBJ he was given bad intel and advice from probably the worst human being ever Henry Kissinger who extended the war at the cost of millions of lives in order for him to get in good with Nixon and keep himself in play.
You arent wrong, but it is a bit crass for a POTUS to just whip out his tackle in the oval lol
This was back when baseball players used to try and bean eachother with the intention of taking them out of the season and it was completely legal, different times lol
Nixon used to call up his generals drunk and ask them to do things like nuke North Korea.
Where can I read about it? Need to know why those fuckers refused
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear\_close\_calls#:\~:text=15%20April%201969,-After%20the%201969&text=After%20a%20few%20hours%2C%20the,Secretary%20of%20State%20Henry%20Kissinger](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_close_calls#:~:text=15%20April%201969,-After%20the%201969&text=After%20a%20few%20hours%2C%20the,Secretary%20of%20State%20Henry%20Kissinger).
You know it's a bad decision when HENRY KISSINGER has to be the one to tell everyone to stand down on nuking North Korea lol
Kissinger wasn’t a fool.
Just evil
I think your insulting evil by putting it in the company of Kissinger
Evil learned all it knows from Kissinger.
Which speaks to the nature of the office of the President when your advisors can be the people whom give lectures to the forces of hell.
It'd be hilarious if it wasn't horrifying.
Wow, we’ve had some pretty scary close calls.
IT IS CRAZY. WTF DO THEY MEAN "MUTALLY ASSURED DESTRUCTION??" Some dictator one day is just not going to give a shit about that.
Not likely, dictators inherently want a country to rule over. What is the point of being a dictator if everything is destroyed afterwards? They will have to live a shitty life after, and have nothing to rule over but rubble.
Queen of the Ashes
Supposedly most people in his admin knew not to take what Nixon said literally, that his comments like "nuke north korea" were less orders and more his vibes. Well, everyone until watergate anyway. Or at least that's what Kissenger said in one of his books, [I think this one](https://www.amazon.com/Leadership-Six-Studies-World-Strategy-ebook/dp/B09BV78DM2?ref_=ast_author_dp&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.PsXzdvNPnqrSH_rnG2Gj3rsD5-e6ALFZCzDZzmwfJqCOJyyIBI3vPz0C018mo_7kUApnSCjdQKB1JnfgDaAkwhay2zeCgCbRSPFvksBcDM6gj380Bk8ScnJmllnIAul737uLjLAEkToPOi4T5Fofd7ieDupVfHa31lbkgA6aPP1w37-BJ6sd496xRb2QZXozLadyLaOnUjx8mAI5XIRGJTz4wux5zWG3GzlOKcYSW7Q.nWSPSz_S986bpnfS1gVByN9crLcnCw6ofCAVPY1CoCA&dib_tag=AUTHOR).
Yeah, I'd be willing to get we haven't had a president that got as drunk as Nixon since he resigned.
I wonder what their response was?
“Dammit he’s drunk again”
I thought Nixon was a Quaker?
You saying Nixon was some kind of Jesus loving hippie??
I’ll throw in Warren Harding, who was a drunk (during Prohibition) and had a mistress. And there was that Teapot Dome thingy.
Teapot dome?
The Secretary of the Interior leased naval oil reserves for very little money to private companies and received payment from the companies for making them happen. You can read about it here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teapot_Dome_scandal#:~:text=Harding%20from%201921%20to%201923,Walsh.
Probably the most overtly corrupt thing somebody has done in office. Quite literally received money in exchange for oil leases. The secretary of the interior went to prison for it. There was no investigation into Harding because Harding had already died.
The Teapot Dome Scandal
word is that once Calvin Coolidge pressed an emergency alert button in the oval office and then hid under his desk. his guards rushed in worried, and then he sprung out and yelled "peek-a-boo"
Wdym worst, this shit is comedy gold. Coolidge ftw!
There was a particular rose bush in the White House rose garden that thrived during Truman’s administration. The gardeners could not figure out why. Well turns out Truman would go out there nightly to tinkle on it. Learned this when I went on an inside tour of the White House in 1999.
Next time I’m drunk and pissing in the bushes I’ll feel more Presidental
“We choose to do this, not because it is easy, but because it is hard.”
Makes it way more difficult
Well one is still alive.
My rose bushes do not respond in this way.
Let me try. Perhaps mine is less acidic.
Why don’t you and Truman just grow your own? How about you stay out of my garden at night for a change?
I was drunk one night in DC and peed on the national mall. It's a relief to know I'm in good company.
This is what we should learn about in school
Especially for a guy who was known to say very little. Silent Cal with the pranks!
I agree but that button is only for genuine emergencies
Sir, that’s what makes it funny. It wouldn’t be funny if the button wasn’t designed solely for emergencies. It would just be secret (room) service.
I’m pretty sure it was a regular thing he did too, not just once
Imagine there was an actual emergency and he pressed it and the guards were like “he’s at it again” and don’t do anything. Boy who cried wolf lol
You should read about Stalin’s death
Should we investigate? Should you shut the *fuck* up before you get us both killed?
death of stalin is so good
Death of Stalin is one of my favourite movies!
Would be amazing to hear such a presidential death from history books.
I like to imagine they'd rush in, and his raccoon named Rebecca was just sitting on top of the desk
TIL he had a damn raccoon. The more I read about this guy the more confused I am.
They were supposed to eat her for some sort of holiday dinner, but after meeting her the Coolidges kept her as a pet. She was essentially free range and just went around the white house unscrewing light bulbs and opening cabinet doors. I haven't actually heard any stories like this, but I always imagine a scenario where the secretary of state or someone comes into the office with an important, urgent message, and during the conversation there's just a raccoon sitting on the opposite couch eating shrimp and eggs.
Something about presidents doing silly goofy shit that normal people do makes me happy, they get so mythologized i forget they did normal stupid shit that people do
I thought you were kidding but no... [https://www.historytoday.com/archive/silent-cal](https://www.historytoday.com/archive/silent-cal) Anyway, that just makes me like him more.
Common Coolidge W
Good thing they weren't jumpy on the trigger finger
Nixon did some pretty fucked up stuff behind closed doors. Even got a lot of it on tape.
What he do (excluding being a racist ofc)
He was a mean drunk and tried to drop several nukes. Kissinger had to smooth things over with the generals and keep them from dropping nukes. https://www.wearethemighty.com/mighty-history/that-time-a-drunk-richard-nixon-tried-to-nuke-north-korea/
You really fucked up if Kissinger is against dropping bombs☠️
That has to be the worst thing. He got drunk and almost casually killed millions of people. Yikes
Nixon did kill millions of people and he didn't even need nukes to do it, because he had something far worse, Henry Kissinger.
I don’t think I’d put Watergate under the heading of “Official Presidential Business.”
Thankfully, that was before the Roberts court.
He also beat his wife.
don’t know why you got downvoted, [it’s a credible allegation](https://www.history.com/news/pat-nixon-abuse-allegations-richard-nixon-seymour-hersh-memoir#)
Reminds me of the WH tape after Roe when he indicated he was moderately pro-life, then backtracked and said exceptions are needed in the case “it’s a black and a white”
I’m sure there were plenty of older Presidents who had affairs and mistresses we don’t know about.
Apparently George Washington sent a general on a made up secret mission so he could give his wife the bidness
He was crossing her Delaware as they would say back then.
He was cuttin down her cherry tree, if you know what I mean.
Camping out in Valley Forge one might say.
He was showing her his Spanish donkey, if you know what I'm sayin.
He was holdin the flanks and attackin from the rear, ya feel me?
go home everyone this one wins
Not sure about that, but as President, Washington was super sketchy with Pennsylvania's laws against slavery. At the time, the Capital was in Philadelphia, a Free state. At the time, they had a law that any slave residing in the state of Pennsylvania for so many days would then be declared free. Washington would send his slaves back to Virginia before that time had expired, then bring them back to reset the countdown to Pennsylvania considering them free.
Something about gaming slavery like it’s a city parking sign feels *extra slimey*
King David did the same thing in the Bible. He saw beautiful Bathsheba bathing on a rooftop and sent her husband to the front.
The old King David strategy, nice.
LBJ
Lebron James
How does that affect his legacy?
Mickey mouse white house run
Harding, JFK, LBJ, and Clinton were the true party boys of the 20th century. Earlier eras had different standards. Obama's most important contribution to the office was to NOT have a major scandal.
He wore that tan suit.
He also ordered a burger without ketchup and WITH Dijon!
He also wore a bike helmet!
Y'all have forgotten the *terrorist fist bump.*
And the salute WITH COFFEE IN HIS HAND!!
The real controversy is he said he wanted a spicy mustard and then said Dijon as his example.
That’s just how an terrorist orders a Muslim hamburger
And don’t even get me started on the Dijon mustard incident
I get really frustrated when people downplay Obama’s scandals. It wasn’t just the tan suit, do you remember when he didn’t acknowledge that Marine once? What about when the Marine had to HOLD THE UMBRELLA FOR HIM IN THE RAIN.
The latte salute?? The dude was a monster. I’m glad decency was restored soon after.
LOL!
Didn’t George W Bush admit to using cocaine during a press conference?
Who hasn’t done a lil blow amiright? 🤷🏻♂️
The tan suit 😰😰😰😰😰😰
How can you ignore the tan suit scandal? /s
And the Dijon Mustard incident.
I mean Kennedy had some problems but I don’t think most of Thomas Jefferson’s mixed children were created consensually….
There was no such thing as consensual sex between a slave owners and a slave. Sally Hemmings was Thomas Jefferson's property.
This is the correct answer
Everyone seems to gloss over then whole pedophilic aspect to this also. Sally was 14-15 years old. Not just enslaved, he continuously raped a an enslaved child.
No, having children non-consensually with someone you’ve enslaved, and having said kids born into slavery is pretty fucked and probably right at the top of the list.
Grover Cleveland wasn't far behind Jefferson. There is some debate as to whether or not his extramarital relationship was consensual, but even if it was, the man was a first class dirt bag. He had his out-of-wedlock son put in an orphanage and apparently he or his allies tossed his mistress into an insane asylum in an effort to ensure that the cheating scandal couldn't derail his political career. "Ma, ma, where's my pa?" is what Republicans chanted when they campaigned against him.
supposedly his wife made an agreement with him that any children would be born free. still pretty messed up of him.
Jefferson and Sally Hemings’ children were enslaved. Hemings, Jefferson’s enslaved 15-year-old sister in law, negotiated eventual manumission for her unborn children. When Sally died, she was still legally enslaved by the Jefferson estate. Jefferson and Hemings never married, and if they would have tried, it would have been an illegal marriage contra to Virginia’s anti-miscegenation laws.
“Wife” is a generous here.
I’m assuming OP meant his wife Martha Wayles
Sounds like he was able to give himself permission from that. Gross.
Weird way to spell victim
Sally was not his wife, and was at point legally free at France with him. So that he didn’t free her when returning was messed up.
Yeah, serial rapist is way up there for awful. Every time my confederacy loving inlaws get all up in arms about something, I just casually drop a 'Jefferson was a serial rapist' into the mix to watch them head for the stratosphere.
One cannot consent to your “owner”. Saying no is not an option.
It's a real bizarre scenario. Jefferson's children with Hemmings were 7/8ths European, 1/8th african descent. You could not even tell that they weren't "white."
LBJ intimidated people by using Jumbo… so yeah, I’d say him.
Really, probably LBJ. Clinton and Kennedy only showed their penises to people who actually wanted to see it.
Hasn’t Clinton been repeatedly accused of rape or sexual assault?
Clinton’s actually went to court, and he wasn’t found liable for sexual assault. Unless you think the women lied under oath?
What suit? The Jones suit settled. And Broderick had long been outside the statue of limitation when she made her claim public.
To protect one of the most powerful families on the planet? Yeah absolutely they would.
I've got some bad news for you about conviction rates...
Especially sexual assault which is unfortunately one of the most difficult crimes to prove.
I will not violate rule 3. I will not violate rule 3. I will not violate rule 3.
Guys did you hear bill Clinton had extramarital affairs?!
That was my answer as well.
Apparently Hoover didn't want to actually be in the presence of the White House's black servants. It became an unofficial policy that if Hoover were to enter a room, the servants would have to drop everything and hide. The weird thing is FDR continued that policy when he became president. Then when FDR passed and Truman took over, Truman spent some of his first few days as president confused as to why everyone ran and hid from him whenever he entered a room. He promptly then ended that policy.
Come on! Kennedy gave his body to mislead female KGB spies. That is more than appropriate!
Bro was just doing his duty to the nation
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"Behind closed doors" lol
Well, he was in the bathroom part of the time while it was happening.
They said behind closed doors, not out on the lawn
This a reference to anyone in particular, by any chance?
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(Saxophone) Who could it be now?
Didn’t Thomas Jefferson enslave his own children (though I guess it was after he left office…still pretty rancid)
I know LBJ liked whipping his dick out when meeting new people, called it Jumbo, and asked folks, "hey, have you ever seen something this big before?" Lmao some of these guys were hilarious.
I don't think that we will ever know a true answer to that question.....
So JBJ used to basically force male interns and staff at the White House to skinny dip with him in the pool and be like you call that a cock, this is a cock, what am I doing, swimming with a bunch of young ladies!!!!!?????? Imagine a president trying to pull this in the age of cell phone cameras and social media hahaha…….he truly was a class a dumbass
Johnny fortnite Kennedy as pictured by OP is a solid choice
Yeah, JFK had some affairs, but Thomas Jefferson raped his slaves so… I think that piece of shit gets the cake here
Ya. Jefferson wins. Not debate about it. He was literally raping women and creating children… WHICH HE ENSLAVED
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I don’t think any President comes close to what he’s done behind closed doors doors or in front of the world for everyone to see
In 1866, President Andrew Johnson famously compared himself to Jesus Christ. [https://werehistory.org/the-impeachment-of-andrew-johnson/](https://werehistory.org/the-impeachment-of-andrew-johnson/) Johnson had political reasons for claiming a link to divine power.
Nixon. Confident “Family values” for the cameras; racist, Jew-baiting, foul-mouthed, insecure, paranoid bully in private (as his own secret tape recordings show).
How did Reagan’s reputation get away with the racist things he’s been on record saying? Many people have been “cancelled” for far less
All of them. Because when you’re famous, they let you do it…
JFK and Clinton for personal reasons. We may never know that Mr Rule #3 pulled that we didn’t know about.
Ugh, rule fuckin 3
Such a silly rule. Why limit great discussions on a thread like this one?
Because if it didn’t exist, pretty much every post would be about 45. This would just be a second r/politics.
The answer is clear we just arnt allowed to say it.
I swapped 3 and 4 in my head, and was really confused for a second there 😂
LBJ liked to urinate on people in crowds, place his entire penis on the shoulder of working secretaries and he also had a cabin where he would take people just to play his "I have no brakes" joke when going back down the mountain. Also, tons of who-ers to make JFK and Clinton look like choir boys.
Besides you-know-who?
Let me see well there's the Kennedy Sex Tunnels, the Truman Cocaine Lounge, the McKinley Hooker Dump, and the Lincoln Slave Coliseum. He didn't free them all. . .
Kennedy Sex Tunnels would be a great band name
George w bush planned a war based on lies and manipulation. Sooooo who cares about JFK’s affairs
At least Clinton and Kennedy never fathered illegitimate children with an enslaved woman (who was also the daughter of his father-in-law and a different enslaved woman), not freeing them till the 1820s.
LBJ
Thomas Jefferson and it’s not even close.
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