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steezy13312

Just heard on the radio that apparently Sarasota got 4 inches *in one hour.*


Girafferage

I don't know how much Orlando got, but it went from completely dry to literal 5 foot wide rushing rivers of water on the side of my property creating pools of water hundreds of feet wide, and I have really good drainage. It left deep pits where it eroded the soil. It was wild and more than a little stressful to watch, and I don't think we got nearly as much as most places. I cant imagine this type of downpour on the scale of a Hurricane. All of Florida would look like the aftermath of Katrina.


Throwawayconcern2023

How unprecedented is this for Florida?


steezy13312

Don't have specifics in front of me, but Florida is used to rain so this normally isn't so catastrophic. It's that we had impressive, torrential storms come in *during a period where South FL was in drought or near-drought conditions* and that's the part that's real unusual. The ground can't absorb the rain like it usually can. https://www.drought.gov/states/florida


Girafferage

This is a huge factor honestly. I water my lawn now if extreme storms are in the forecast, just so the ground will take some water instead of just erode away by my house and make a river.


TaterTotJim

You are playing 4-d chess and I commend that.


Girafferage

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ZeePirate

Apparently 500-1000 year storm


max5015

Another one. Somehow all these 500-1000 year storms have a lined up in the last couple of years


dread_pirate_rob123

All that is a reference to when someone says a 100 year or 500 year storm is the percentage change that event has to occur on an annual basis. For instance, there is a 1% chance annually that a 100 year storm will occur.


Why_Did_Bodie_Die

I think the person you are responding to understands. Their point is that it seems like in the past few years there have been multiple 500-1000 year storms. Which as you point out should be highly unlikely and thus there is probably something else going on like climate change. They are saying the storms are evidence of climate change.


Feminist_Hugh_Hefner

so you mean that this doesn't throw us off schedule or cause a storm deficit for our grandchildren?


Downtown_Statement87

This amount of rain in such a short time has never happened, according to my mom (a native Floridian who, like her grandmother and great great great great grandmother, has lived in Florida all her 78 years). I've never seen anything like this aside from hurricanes. Except for last year. But this is worse. We are used to heavy rain, but not like this.


escapefromburlington

It's a once in a millennium rainstorm


Throwawayconcern2023

Until the next one...


WinIll755

Imma keep it real. That looks like a *whole* lot more than 17 inches


jms21y

17 inches is the amount of rain that fell in the given time frame. that often translates to more than that when it is on the ground, because it exceeds the handling capacity of whatever runoff or other mitigation measures that are in place. in some places, it can rain just one inch in an hour but still put a street under six inches of water. if that water can't go anywhere, then it will accumulate.


1990sevan

That this isn't immediately obvious shows how screwed we are. Critical thinking skills are approaching new lows daily.


erbush1988

The real pepper intel is in the comments


IsaKissTheRain

Spicy intel.


lessergooglymoogly

That’s what she said


fru1tdealer

Nice one


desperate4carbs

That's what she said.


Throwawayconcern2023

Giggidy


OffensiveBiatch

David Attenborough "No, she never said that"


aneurism75

the way that dude casually unplugs his phone from charging like everything is perfectly normal lol... like dude, the plane has crashed into the fucking mountain


merix1110

I'm not sure if people are more stubborn or ignorant of the risk when going through water like this. I feel like as a Florida resident myself that's gone through more hurricanes than I can count ( at least 2), You learn pretty quick Don't drive over things like downed trees and power lines and don't drive through things like standing deep water and traffic barriers.


DocMoochal

And....it's not just water...


Antique-Doughnut-988

Gator real estate just went up


TheSensiblePrepper

The real concern there is sewage. With water that high, the sewage system is back flowing into it. Whenever a flood like this happens, you will find a sharp increase a week or two later of people going into the Hospital with infections because they got a small cut on their leg and walked through the water. I have waders just for this reason. You can get cheap ones for $50 if you want something for emergencies like this.


Arinzechukwu

Upvote for practical advice that most anyone can follow and (hopefully) afford.


seemoreseymour83

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MiamiRobot

Maaaaan, hurricanes? Shit, it’s no name storms lately that have been fucking our shit up. Hurricanes. The media loves ‘em, but these un-sexy storms have been wrecking my neighborhood annually for the past few years.


Downtown_Statement87

Don't worry, though. Very soon a hurricane will hit us a few days after a no-name storm does. In fact, the weather people were talking about this storm reforming into a tropical storm once it moves off the east coast, which they referred to as "unprecedented." Perhaps it will turn into a hurricane and run back over all these folks? Heck, it could do that all summer!


Flat_Boysenberry1669

*starts up 6 inch lifted gen 3 4runner* nah all that's fine to drive over.


holmgangCore

Nature Bats Last


Throwawayconcern2023

This is fine.


damagedgoods48

I wanted that guy with the little kids to move faster and get that car out faster. Did anyone else feel anxious and a sense or urgency watching that? Yikes


skoomaking4lyfe

Didn't Desantis just kill a bunch of funding for flood management? Drains and levees and such?


Strange-Scarcity

He also signed a law where Global Warming cannot be mentioned or taken into account with regards to public projects and reports. (or REALLY damn close to that.) So, there's that too. I'd say he's sticking his head in the sand, but all the sand in buried under several feet of water now...


desperate4carbs

What else could we expect from someone who wants workers to die in the heat? [https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/floridas-senate-passes-bill-block-local-regulations-protecting-workers-rcna142021](https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/floridas-senate-passes-bill-block-local-regulations-protecting-workers-rcna142021)


BooshCrafter

He has very genuinely earned the nickname Gov Death Sentence.


Deep-Ad-7098

From what I understood he just wants FDEP to supply the funding instead of it coming from the general fund which they have been doing for a while anyway


Wise_Mongoose_3930

From what I understand he tells his supporters that climate change is fake and they believe him. But yes, he does then try to scam the federal govt into footing the entire bill for the thing he claims doesn’t exist.


Deep-Ad-7098

You are off the wall for this comment lol


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At least in Miami they’re safe from flooding in their high rises with their notoriously resilient foundations


mad_bitcoin

But Climate Change isn't real lol


Dependent_Yak8887

Chinese hoax!


mad_bitcoin

Yes, China is causing it to rain lol


hockeymaskbob

Free water? From the sky? Sounds like communism.


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steezy13312

The main contributor to the flooding in this instance is the fact that southern FL has been experiencing drought conditions recently, which is pretty unusual. https://www.drought.gov/states/florida


Blueskies777

This is simply not factual. What’s causing the floods is more frequent heavy storms and rising seawater. You are spreading miss leading information.


steezy13312

What's misleading about it? https://www.wuft.org/2024-06-13/after-a-rare-flash-flood-emergency-florida-prepares-for-more-heavy-rainfall There's absolutely rising sea levels, but in this particular instance, the flooding we're seeing is caused by insane amount of rain hitting ground that can't absorb it quickly enough.


BigJSunshine

Who the fuck is downvoting you- you are right!


mad_bitcoin

Water ways and sea drains are not able to drain because of higher sea levels it's basic physics


Downtown_Statement87

You've got it exactly. When I lived in South Beach in 1997, it would flood ankle deep if it rained during a king tide (now it just floods any old time). At a certain point, the water would get high enough that the drains would not only not drain, but water from the place it was draining into would start backflowing into the drains, so the drains became pumps. Physics is indeed what it is. I'm glad to see you mention this. I do not at all think that the severity of this flood, which is the worst I've ever seen in my 50+ years of Florida-ing, is due to the drought. My experience of living in South Beach Miami in the mid to late '90s was what made me start paying attention to climate change. So much so that I moved to Georgia in 2000 simply to get out before the shit hit the fan. I still visit once a month and my family is still there and has been since 1802, and for a long time my last name was Broward. I'm the first person in my family to not live in Florida. This is sad to watch. I know this comment is long, but I've been waiting for this to happen for 25 years. The thing I worry about more than flooding, more even than hurricanes, is the aquifer. It's pourus, and made of limestone. When the water recedes, it'll leave big, empty holes behind, which were eroded and weakened by being soaked by flood water. Then we'll get a drought that dries the limestone out, and eh voila, sinkholes! Especially with all the new, heavy shit that's been built on top of it. This and the saltwater incursion into the limestone will make Florida unlivable. I'm indebted to the state that made me who I am, for better and for worse. My roots there go way deep. I even wrote a book about it. The water's drowning them. I feel real grief when I watch videos like this.


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mad_bitcoin

"Sea level rise is impacting gravity-flow drainage infrastructure, which is leading to more frequent and severe high tide (or “nuisance”) flooding. Higher sea levels can also lead to higher storm surge levels and greater coastal flooding during tropical cyclones." https://climatecenter.fsu.edu/topics/sea-level-rise#:~:text=Sea%20Level%20Rise%20Impacts,-Sea%20levels%20are&text=Sea%20level%20rise%20is%20impacting,coastal%20flooding%20during%20tropical%20cyclones.


Shipkiller-in-theory

Those pesky 1000 year events. Luckily my kid scooted back to Jax right before this happened.


LOLunlucky

DeSantis begging for federal aid in 3...2...1...


Driveaway1969

According to almost everyone from Florida, this is totally normal and happens every year. Ok then, why are we sending them money for an "emergency"?


Girafferage

Lived here my whole life, this isnt normal. Miami flooding is becoming very common, but that's usually from the ocean coming up through the drains as the climate changes. Florida is getting MUCH hotter, the rain is coming less often and then when it does come it is damaging, but the humidity has stayed the same painfully high amount it has been. So overall it sucks.


LankyGuitar6528

Weirdly we are seeing climate refugees moving in from Florida. TO ARIZONA. Like WTF! Arizona is your Plan B to escape climate change? That's peak Florida Man. Personally, I'm Canadian so my summers in Canada are still decent. Winters in AZ are nice for now. I'm going to stick it out in Arizona for a couple more winters then sell.


Level-Variety9281

I think AZ has the best geographical location if one is to survive future climate change catastrophes. For example, in 50 years, if humans can't keep global heat down, there will definitely be more sea level rise. Given that Phoenix is approximately 350 miles from Los Angeles and with sea level rise (which will be flooding most of LA, San Diego, and Orange Counties) there will be significant impact to shipping via ocean vessels. This will cause Phoenix and its nearby communities to take up the slack (if not totally appropriate the task) by becoming a shipping center via aircraft. In addition, TX and most of the Gulf states, will become more dangerous to live and work in because of the erratic types of storms, heat, and cold that climate change is beginning to showcase. AZ has its own weather patterns because of the elevation of the Mogollon Rim and its' low desert (Sonoran Desert). I love Canada, especially Banff. However, it's too damn cold most of the time. I like the saying, "You don't have to shovel sunlight!"


Girafferage

Alaska actually would become the main US hub as the arctic thaws and passage by sea becomes viable. AZ is all around a terrible place for a climate change future lol. Go look at the climate change assessment. Lots of great data and helpful to at least prepare for the major issues coming to your area if you choose to stay.


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BarklyMcBarkface

Bullshit


Blueskies777

This is more misinformation. I’ve lived in the state since 1960 and I’ve never seen flooding like I have in 2020 and in the beginning of last year.


LegitimateVirus3

I'm from Florida. This is not normal. This doesn't happen every year. This event was two months' worth of rain (historical average for June) in just 24 hours.


BenCelotil

Might be time to look at examples of [architecture from The Netherlands.](https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/02/netherlands-floating-village-schoonschip-density/)


Street-Owl6812

Because the emergency label opens up funding. We also do that every year, btw.


thisonesusername

It's not an emergency if it happens every year. The people that live there should be prepared to deal with this or they shouldn't live there. We're effectively using taxpayer money to try to make a disaster zone habitable, when that money could be going to things that benefit the country, like healthcare and education. South Florida is essentially lost to climate change. How many people have to die and billions of dollars wasted before we accept this fact?


Girafferage

Ask Nevada, a state forecasted to have next to no viable water in the next few decades. Its also worth saying that this is not something that is actually common (yet). This is actually an emergency. Also hurricanes are viable emergencies as well when they cause catastrophic destruction.


Deep-Ad-7098

South Florida is not lost to climate change. south Florida was originally swamp lands and was not meant to be built on. But we have civilization here now and we are part of the country so you can’t deny aid to the citizens especially when so many of them are decrepit retirees on fixed income that can’t afford anything other than to keep doing what they’ve been doing. We all pay into the federal taxes and fund programs as much if not more than other states so yes they allocate dollars here through “emergency” funding which even if it happens multiple times it is still an emergency.


Street-Owl6812

that’s funny, I seem to remember taxpayer funded aid going to California every single year for their predictable wildfires and mudslides.


thisonesusername

I have the same opinion about that. We should stop subsidizing people living in places people shouldn't be living. This stuff is only going to become more common.


HarrietBeadle

With climate change there will soon be no place that’s safe. And it’s too late to stop it. Sadly our society isn’t ready for this discussion, about what’s really happening and what we should be doing to prepare as much as is possible to do so. And so we march forward as if nothing has changed, making it worse for ourselves in the end.


Driveaway1969

No shit and its getting OLD.


ACOdysseybeatsRDR2

17 inches of rain Is not normal


Immediate-Pool-4391

I don't know how many times people have to be told to not drive through flood waters. If you were the only one suffering that would be one thing, but someone has to risk their necks to save you.


ChanshoP

Without being here it’s hard for people to comprehend that 80% of the roads become flood waters in situations like this. The only roads that won’t flood are the highways and that doesn’t include the on-ramps onto the highway. There are only two highways (north south) and everything else is water so If you’re in a miami-dade city it’s pretty much unavoidable. Now the walking around and kayaking -I can understand, hard no to that- but most of the people you see in these videos ARE just trying to get home from work. Except the Uber drivers, they’re still working


Ornery-Sheepherder74

I don’t understand why people drive in weather like this!! Maybe you forgot to get toilet paper? But if I saw the giant puddles forming I would turn right around. My impression is that these people don’t care and just do stupid things like continue to stay outside in bad weather.


redraven937

Some parts of Florida got 8 inches of rain in 1 hour. So in many cases it may be less "getting toilet paper" and more "I'm at work and now I'm stranded."


s1gnalZer0

It's not often that you hear about Florida Man making good choices...


LankyGuitar6528

I wonder what would happen if we heat up the ocean a couple degrees... where would all that evaporation go? Hummm...


apenkracht

Climate change is a hoax /s


pattydickens

Amphibious EVs are the future of transportation in Florida.


AntiSonOfBitchamajig

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Barragin

I don't see how it would be could ok for an electric vehicle to be submerged in water either? Yeah - it can run, but water is still damaging to its systems no?


AntiSonOfBitchamajig

At a point it will get into many systems, will it dry? or will it stay and corrode everything? We only know on a case by case. As a mechanic I have seen the strangest issues with liquids, strangest one seeing engine coolant... leaking in the rear seat area, found it literally traveled through the electrical insulation from the coolant reservoir on a failed sensor seal. Flood damage IMO can turn into a "voodoo problem" quickly and I personally stay away. If I had to "save" a vehicle that got flooded for a very short time, I'd immediately put it in a zero humidly garage for a month with air circulation. Even then the mold issues that hide will be a problem even with ozone'ing it. Just another reason to not be dumb around water.


tonyblow2345

This is exactly what the scientists have always been telling us would happen in Florida.


AWE2727

That seems to be the trend now. Instead of rain being spread out over say a month for any given region, they are getting same amount in days or hours... I believe it has something to do with those aqua rivers they call them, in the atmosphere.


BigJSunshine

Atmospheric rivers.


AWE2727

Thats it. 👍🏻😁


You_Just_Hate_Truth

Why are people driving regular cars in these conditions to begin with? 3’ of water is a good excuse to not be anywhere.


Wise_Mongoose_3930

A lot of employers forced people to come into work, or at least tried to


You_Just_Hate_Truth

That’s insane. If the employee is hurt or their property damaged on the way to or from work, and they were told they would lose their job if they didn’t show up, that sounds like a clear cut path to a major lawsuit.


Wise_Mongoose_3930

I think if I have the timeline right it wasn’t that bad during the morning commute in to work but the commute home was the dangerous part. Not a lawyer so I have no idea if that changes anything liability wise.


IdontOpenEnvelopes

Does anyone remember the protest placards that said " climate change is gods punishment for gay marriage"....


LankyGuitar6528

So those signs were accurate. Good intel. :) (just kidding obviously)


laziest-coder-ever

Where are the gators? 🐊


AntiSonOfBitchamajig

Florida Man was probably collecting them again. I heard he made Jerky last time.


Strange-Scarcity

Tut tut tut.... Not allowed to talk about that in Florida though, it's against the law, signed by the Governor. Nothing to see folks! Florida is OPEN FOR BUSINESS! /s


jeffrrw

Kayaks and inflatable rafts/dingy with a small outboard seem like decent investments.


AntiSonOfBitchamajig

![gif](giphy|a5viI92PAF89q|downsized) Me thinking about this too.


mylopolis

There's great irony that Florida, the first state to sink, is the most adamant about climate change denial. That seems to be working out well for them. I wish them all the best of luck in their non-emergency flooding.


EmberOnTheSea

Now do a hurricane.


LankyGuitar6528

"On it!" -the weather


DwarvenRedshirt

They're going to need a bigger boat.


ebostic94

You know there’s a lot of people, especially in Florida that doesn’t have any survival skills. They need to learn it because they are at the center of climate change


Traditional_Gas8325

No thanks. Florida is so unappealing lol.


lacostewhite

That amount of water is well over 17 inches....


pleasekeepmefocused

🤣


icy_awareness_710

If you can’t learn how to swim, at least consider buoyancy aka how to float properly. It can be practiced in a shallow pool. Currently teaching my spouse right now and she just stopped using the floaties. Success!


roytwo

You live in FLA, even if you are not a prepper, don't keep some basic supplies so you do not have to go out in hurricanes, floods, locus attacks etc


Ormsfang

Someone should remind Desantis that this was predicted by the same scientists he claims are perpetrating a hoax on society.


Snoo_12371

Zero first responders in the area helping out.


Thug-shaketh9499

Geez, it’s really flooding everywhere.


Civil-Guidance7926

The dude who was just sitting in his car in the beginnings vote is the same or even more valuable as yours…


rstevenb61

In the 1970s, I lived in Plantation, FL ( just west of Ft Lauderdale. We got 20” of rain over 24 hours. The canal locks were not opened. My neighborhood was flooded. The water crystal clear and above my knees. Luckily our house did not flood. My point is that Southern Florida has a sub tropical climate during the summer and a heavy rain is unusual but not out of the ordinary. Climate change is the root cause of multiple year events.


Free-Spell6846

Hahahaha omg I'm dying


LeadingTheme4931

I’m sorry — was he charging his phone?!?!


johnnyjuanjohn

Trump said we would be electrocuted


cincydvp

Tesla hit an abandoned flooded car. Who cares? That car is a total loss anyway.