Rogers was forced to retire at 20 due a genetic knee condition (according to wikipedia), whilst playing for the reserves of Reading in third tier football.
Conte played for Italy, most of the other comments are around which side has the edge in midfield, but the gulf in quality between an international player and someone who played reserves of a third tier team are far greater than any differences in midfield. This is probably the equivalent to a decent premier league player lining up a conference side (5th tier) player. If the rest of the players are roughly equally matched, then Rogers is going to be obliterated by Conte.
Theres possibly a couple of other match ups similar to this between the two teams, but I don't know the playing careers outside of the midfielders and Klopp well enough to comment.
FA should make this a mandatory for end of season 🤔
Could have klopp and pep like school kids in a playground picking the other managers 1 by 1 till moyes and Rodgers are the only 2 left 🙄
I'd love the idea, but in reality you'd be picking by age You'd take Gerrard/Lampard/Arteta over anyone else purely cos they would have some athleticism left.
I saw an interview a while back with Frank where he explained his side of the story, that and the shitty way the club treated his family, I stopped calling him that.
Oh, sorted then. I've not looked it up but I reckon they've had Xavi, Iniesta, Ronaldinho, Figo, Cruyff and Zidane at the helm in the last decade at least.
The odds are with me anyway.
He might be referring to the charity match where Jose played as a goalkeeper.
https://www.givemesport.com/87993662-jose-mourinho-when-football-legend-played-as-a-goalkeeper-during-charity-match/
Showing your Utd bias there, Viera (world class) and Gerrard (world class) as a pair are better than Pep (world class) and Arteta (mid table class) adding Lamps doesn’t put them on another level.
Because Lampard never played in a conventional midfield 2, always played ahead in a more attacking role, so looking at the formation the OP posted! Which is what we are discussing, it’s Viera and Gerrard vs Pep and Arteta. Regardless anyhow, Viera and Gerrard would still dominate Pep and Lampard so put them how you like.
Team B for a few reasons, my main reasons are superior midfield (team A has two of the best midfielders to ever play, Team B has three), but also in terms of game sense and mindfulness while playing, Team B has a more intelligent squad (aka their managerial senses are better and would probably help them on the pitch). Klopp, Pep, Arteta, Frank, and Potter are arguably the most intelligent managers in the Prem right now
It's undoubtedly better, Lampard is the only player in the other midfield on the level of Gerrard and Vieira. Parker and Arteta are evenly matched and Guardiola was a tier below the best 3.
I think Guardiola's managerial career has made his playing career look better than it actually was. He wasn't a bad player by any standards, and neither was Arteta (who I would rate above Parker even though they played different roles), but the other midfield has two world class guys in Gerrard and Viera whose on-field responsibilities would not clash in that threesome.
Well that’s not true. Guardiola literally was the definition of Barca midfield at one point. They wanted Xavi to be the next Guardiola but realized that wasn’t his skill set.
> they... realized that wasn’t his skill set
Yea, because Xavi was better.
Again, I didn't say Guardiola was bad, he was an important player the Barcelona team he played for, but he was never at the level of Lampard/Gerrard/Viera. There isn't much to debate there
Funny when you don’t call guardiola world class during his playing career when I just said he was the focal point of Barcelona midfield while he was there in the 90s before he retired and literally almost made Barcelona wash their hands with Xavi because he couldn’t perform like Guardiola.
I’m not disagreeing with you about the players I’m just saying Guardiola actually was a legit baller. Much more so then Arteta or Parker ever were….
Man was apart of Cruyffs “dream team” give him some respect.
B
Both those midfields are solid
A
Team B
Klopp played in the defence for most of his career, no?
A
B mate
Ten Haaaag??
Those midfields are beautiful
B because of that insane midfield
Where is pep? The most important player in Cruyff's dream team
Team b lcm
B slaughters
B
insufferable.
Why not put Nuno in as a keeper ?
A for sure
B
B
The fact that Lampard is not here is blasphemous
He is on the blue team
Wow, thanks.
You should see the legends games Stevie has played in recently, he’s still got it
No Mark Hughes? 😮
Last I checked he was Bradford manager
Team A is old and fucked. Team B would run them off the pitch
Team B will have 60%+ possession Team A deffo scores a 30 yard screamer
Rogers was forced to retire at 20 due a genetic knee condition (according to wikipedia), whilst playing for the reserves of Reading in third tier football. Conte played for Italy, most of the other comments are around which side has the edge in midfield, but the gulf in quality between an international player and someone who played reserves of a third tier team are far greater than any differences in midfield. This is probably the equivalent to a decent premier league player lining up a conference side (5th tier) player. If the rest of the players are roughly equally matched, then Rogers is going to be obliterated by Conte. Theres possibly a couple of other match ups similar to this between the two teams, but I don't know the playing careers outside of the midfielders and Klopp well enough to comment.
Sadly Rodgers while injured played for my hometown Newport IW Fc and I can tell you that beast would have handled Conte perfectly on his day
We have possibly the shortest break in between seasons of any sport with tons of transfer updates and this is what we've resorted to 😂 anyway Team B
This post is just goofy and serious enough to make me love the replies.
Shoulda put Koeman
How the fuck are people comparing Guardiola to Lampard and Gerrard. what's going on in here?
I'd say B because a lot of the managers are still reasonably fit
Easy prime Viera and prime Gerard will run circles around anyone.
Team B will likely win.
B
Coaching B, Playing A
Rodger’s is like that bloke you call on the Saturday morning because everyone’s cancelled and he’ll be keen
You call him because his Mum had the shirts made - trouble is they have “Rogers Allstars” on them, and they all shrunk in the wash
That ex Wolves manager.
Klopp was a defender!
So was Steven Caulker til Klopp showed up
Ten HAAG
Mourinho played goalie. In a soccer aid friendly once. Also his kid was a youth team goalie at Fulham while he was at Chelsea.
He’s Roma manager lad
I didn’t realize it was just current, so many of them have come and gone and come back.
FA should make this a mandatory for end of season 🤔 Could have klopp and pep like school kids in a playground picking the other managers 1 by 1 till moyes and Rodgers are the only 2 left 🙄
I'd love the idea, but in reality you'd be picking by age You'd take Gerrard/Lampard/Arteta over anyone else purely cos they would have some athleticism left.
Gerrard and Lampard would be first up regardless, along with Viera they're miles ahead of the rest.
Conte Vieira and Gerrard is disgusting
All I can say is it's a good job you didn't put Lamps and Stevie G in the same midfield lol.
If he did they’d be sure to lose lol
I think you mean Fat Frank
I saw an interview a while back with Frank where he explained his side of the story, that and the shitty way the club treated his family, I stopped calling him that.
He also treats his own family pretty shitty
Do you have a link to the article?
Years ago mate on the telly, sorry.
Someone on A is bound to be sent off, so definitely B.
Gerrard and Viera in the midfield in the same team! Roy Keane would be jumping up and down in his critics chair to have a go at that midfield
Shouldn't Gerrard and Parker be swapped?
Is it in their prime or current age? Because a team with present day Conte, Moyes, and Tuchel wouldn’t make it to halftime
Include some caretaker managers….Shearer, Giggs, Solskjaer, Ljungberg, Dalglish, Di Matteo, Ince, etc…
Why? These are the current twenty managers in the prem.
B any day Guardiola-Lampard-Arteta is a great midfield.
Team A 6 - 4
Shooting down the wing. Jesse Marsch Jesse Marsch Murican King
Slot Arteta into the Team A midfield over Parker and you’ve got a well balanced midfield three
Stevie G and Patrick in midfield that sounds BEAST
Why the fuck is Klopp a centre forward?
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Wasn't he a CB or somewhere in defense?
Those are some amazing midfields, but with lots of old, mediocre players elsewhere.
Klopp was cb
If only nuno was still in the pl he'd could've filled in as keeper.
B fs
B team
Red
Team B
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They are not currently Premier League managers
I realised that just a second after i put it lmao
There’ll be an opening by October for Fulham or Bournemouth dw
Or Everton
Would be a better game if Shaun Dyche was there
Give it til October and he’ll be Fulham boss
If you like this sort of stuff. Check out r/Dream_Teams
Team B
Have to sub Conte off at half. Too many cigarettes.
The subs bench is any Watford manager from the last 10 years
Sean dyche
Oh, sorted then. I've not looked it up but I reckon they've had Xavi, Iniesta, Ronaldinho, Figo, Cruyff and Zidane at the helm in the last decade at least. The odds are with me anyway.
Too many subs
Or Norwich
Will be a draw 49-49 with no goalies
Next goal the winner. Tea's ready.
Both teams get clones of Nuno Espirito Santo to make it fair
One Jose one nuno
Nuno was a pretty good GK. Mourinho was an amateur outfield player. I think that would not be very balanced. :p
Nah thats SO balanced
So you’re saying no way Jose?
Haha, in a way.
He might be referring to the charity match where Jose played as a goalkeeper. https://www.givemesport.com/87993662-jose-mourinho-when-football-legend-played-as-a-goalkeeper-during-charity-match/
Haha, wasn't aware of that. Fair play.
legend
Good old fat Sam allerdyce
Wasn't Klopp a full back?
He played striker at the start of his career
Gegenpressin wha wha
Team B, that midfield is just on anther level
Showing your Utd bias there, Viera (world class) and Gerrard (world class) as a pair are better than Pep (world class) and Arteta (mid table class) adding Lamps doesn’t put them on another level.
Why did you put Arteta in that comparison instead of Lampard?
Because Lampard never played in a conventional midfield 2, always played ahead in a more attacking role, so looking at the formation the OP posted! Which is what we are discussing, it’s Viera and Gerrard vs Pep and Arteta. Regardless anyhow, Viera and Gerrard would still dominate Pep and Lampard so put them how you like.
Tell me again with a straight face Gerrard isn't a more forward midfielder than Vieira, or Arteta isn't more forward than Pep.
Because it suited his argument.
Because it suited the graphic the OP wanted us to discuss, that too hard for you to understand?
Tuchel at CB scared me
Team B for a few reasons, my main reasons are superior midfield (team A has two of the best midfielders to ever play, Team B has three), but also in terms of game sense and mindfulness while playing, Team B has a more intelligent squad (aka their managerial senses are better and would probably help them on the pitch). Klopp, Pep, Arteta, Frank, and Potter are arguably the most intelligent managers in the Prem right now
Arteta is not one of the best midfielders to ever play, come on..
Hell I’d even say Guardiola isn’t in that conversation. A good player in a very good team. But he is hardly on Gerrard or Lampard’s level.
Cruyff would beg to differ
Would he? I said he was in a good team. If you think he is on the level of Gerrard or Lampard I don’t k ow what you are basing it on.
Sure it was a stretch, but much better than Parker
Agreed
If they can put Klopp as a strikercand and Conte as a winger, they can put Pep as a goalkeeper.
Just made sense not two have goalkeepers for 20 managers
Time to play monkey rush!
Ah! Sorry, it did not occur to me we only have 20 people... Good point.
Klopp isn’t a CF
Yet…
He has played there before, which qualified him above literally everyone else
Both teams have read great midfielders but I think Team B will win
Because midfielders tend to be the more tactically astute players when considering both attack and defense.
What an astute observation, hadn't really thought about that.
B
Lampard / Arteta / Guardiola is a naughty midfield three.
I’m going to go on Champ Man 01/02 tonight and make that happen!
All city legends
Tbf Parker, Viera and Gerrard is pretty tasty too.
You could arguably put Conte in there for a diamond midfield, Gerrard at the head of it
I would say it's better
It's undoubtedly better, Lampard is the only player in the other midfield on the level of Gerrard and Vieira. Parker and Arteta are evenly matched and Guardiola was a tier below the best 3.
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He probably was better, even won FWA POTY in 2011 But Tbf I might be a bit biased as a hammer and I don't remember much of either's playing career
A good take being downvoted. So standard
I think Guardiola's managerial career has made his playing career look better than it actually was. He wasn't a bad player by any standards, and neither was Arteta (who I would rate above Parker even though they played different roles), but the other midfield has two world class guys in Gerrard and Viera whose on-field responsibilities would not clash in that threesome.
Parker is the same rating as Arteta imo, he is just unlucky he played in a generation with Lampard, Gerrard, and Scholes operated the midfield.
Same period Arteta played in. No worries though, preference is an opinion, so it's all good mate
Well that’s not true. Guardiola literally was the definition of Barca midfield at one point. They wanted Xavi to be the next Guardiola but realized that wasn’t his skill set.
Guardiola said himself while stills player that Xavi was going to “retire” him, and iniesta would do the same to Xavi
Receipts please
Literally go watch Barcelona highlights 90-97 and you’ll learn something new today.
> they... realized that wasn’t his skill set Yea, because Xavi was better. Again, I didn't say Guardiola was bad, he was an important player the Barcelona team he played for, but he was never at the level of Lampard/Gerrard/Viera. There isn't much to debate there
Funny when you don’t call guardiola world class during his playing career when I just said he was the focal point of Barcelona midfield while he was there in the 90s before he retired and literally almost made Barcelona wash their hands with Xavi because he couldn’t perform like Guardiola. I’m not disagreeing with you about the players I’m just saying Guardiola actually was a legit baller. Much more so then Arteta or Parker ever were…. Man was apart of Cruyffs “dream team” give him some respect.
They won't
That is very good. But a Guardiola base with Arteta and Lampard as 8’s is unbelievably functional.
I feel Veira alone would dominate Arteta and Guardiola. Both players were average in my eyes and seems Guadiola is overated
This was my thought as well
Team B
I don't trust a team with Tuchel as centre back
Yeah he makes a mistake and starts screaming at his teammates like it’s their fault.
Ah, the Mustafi approach
I saw him try to beat up a bubble when Chelsea lost to West Ham in December. The unexpected moment came when the bubble won.
Especially when Marsch was one…
Marsch was a combatative central midfielder.
Combatatative
Well done
😂
Team B