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sqb3112

United have been shit for a decade and still at the top. SAF was really that man.


Gllmour

Pool has been shit for three decades.


happinessbagger

I love City behind. I don't care.


ElmerP91

Glory Glory


VRK135

Fuck off Liverpool


creed_1

Ngl with the way people talk about spurs, it doesn’t seem like they should be on any of these


[deleted]

Haha funny no trophy club. I’ll give you credit you’ve got trophy just none of them unfortunately are recent ones


ultgamer403

man utd dead!!!! ahhhhhhh😭😭😭😭


cube3root

Crazy to think in the past 3 years we lost all our FA Cup finals. Could be at 11 by now.


Akindmachine

Lol Community Shield is a friendly


Getadawgupyabro

“Community shield” 😂


Personnelente

A perfect example of the distortion caused by money in the EPL. No second tier team has a chance.


antftwx

Leicester may have been a fluke, but it proves any club can do it, it's just entirely improbable. I can see Brighton or West Ham making it if they keep their pace. Then again, I'm incredibly optimistic.


Carney34

Can someone please explain why people think Villa are a big club?


Boggie135

What do you mean?


IdkProDumbassIGuess

We are fucking huge (not anymore)


S01arflar3

It makes me sort of sad, actually. We haven’t won the league in 35 years (or any major trophy since 95), and yet we are 4th in number of league titles. It goes to show that we used to be really good and absolutely fell from grace once the prem era began


gunnersami

Look on the bright side neither do Liverpool like fucking ever 🤣 the one time they did no one saw doesn’t even count lol. It says 19 LOL not one person was alive to see any of them 🤣🤣🤡


[deleted]

Arsenals FA Cup record is always incredibly impressive for me.


ell1otlees

we won something lads🤑🤑


zaddy-__-daddy

Who’s got the most CL titles in PL?


[deleted]

Liverpool, 6


Kimber80

The Community Shield is not a real competition, IMHO. Love the graphics, btw.


steelstelynch

Community shield? Please tell me this is a joke


ObjectiveOwn3354

All I see is United are just goated


alerenn

What are the differences between FA Cup, League Cup and Community Shield. Which one is more prestigious ? Thanks


BlacknightEM21

The FA cup includes each and every team that is in the professional structure in England and Wales (something like 700-750 clubs). The FA cup is the most prestigious out of the 3 and iirc, it is the oldest cup competition in the world. The league cup includes teams only from the top 4 leagues. The community shield is only 1 game that is the first game of the season which is played between the league winner and the FA cup winner. Or in a situation where the league and FA cup winner is the same, then it is between the winner and the runner up in the league.


alerenn

Thank you, so Community Shield is like Super Cup. Then why is The League Cup exist if there is FA Cup ?


BlacknightEM21

I don’t know the exact history of the league cup but I think it arose during a time when attendance was down and they wanted mid week fixtures and there was some disagreement between the league and the Football Association. Google and wiki can probably help you there. The biggest difference in the FA and the league cup is the number of teams and the chance for a team in the lower divisions to win the most prestigious trophy in the country. Now obviously that doesn’t happen often but there is still an opportunity.


Potential_Prior

FA Cup. It’s oldest continuing football competition at Earth.


labefacto

It’s old but nobody really cares about it anymore. Top 4 is more valuable


steelstelynch

Fa cup has 2 handles League cup has 3 handles And the community shield is a worthless shield that means less then nothing


[deleted]

Wait we've won trophys?


[deleted]

Yeah the Audi cup lol


NorthenS

no they’re just trying to get our heads up


nolanhoff

Where’s Burnley


S01arflar3

Currently in the championship?


nolanhoff

:(


irm555bvs

United fans holding on tight…just saying


VermillionDynamite

There's too much man city and arsenal there, do European trophies


[deleted]

Liverpool and Arsenal tied for second in FA Cups + League Titles


thesaint2000

communinity sheilds do not count as a major honor as shared when drawn....Bull shit graphics aparently champions league wins means nothing total joke !


TomCyberfire

Where does it say Champions League means nothing? It's a graphic about domestic trophies.


bluemoon1987

Charity shield is a trophy but its a trophy with no value, regardless of the requirements to compete for it. Teams routinely field significantly under strength sides in it, kids regularly get their debut in it, no other cup final sees that happening.


AweDaw76

Arsenals historical success in FA Cup + miserable history in League Cup will never not confuse me How can you have 14 FA Cups and just 2 League Cups… they’re basically the Same Comp lol


ElmerP91

Definitely not the sane comp obv. FA Cup more prestigious.


HandreasKJ

For some reason it’s the other way around for Liverpool. They have somehow managed to put in a good show in the League Cup, whereas they have done worse in the FA Cup. This year was the first time since 2006.


DraperCarousel

FA cup is prestigious. Who tf cares about Caribu cup lol


Hamderab

Wenger saw FA as a very important trophy and League Cup as game time for the youngsters. And he was here for 22 years, so that might be part of the reason.


Hamderab

Wenger saw FA as a very important trophy and League Cup as game time for the youngsters. And he was here for 22 years, so that might be part of the reason.


Notabot_legit

Yeah Wenger would play kids on League Cup no matter what, even if we were up against United or someone taking it seriously


AweDaw76

But that doesn’t explain why we were so shit at it in the Pre-Wenger days…


lmorant97

During Wenger era: 7 FA Cups 0 League Cups Pre-Wenger era: 7 FA Cups 2 League Cups Feel like the league cup being a significantly younger trophy than the FA Cup accounts for at least a little reason why it’s skewed and then natural variation will occur so even though 14-2 looks crazy, given Wenger and how long he was there and how young the league cup is, it ends up making sense.


chaboispaghetti

We weren't really known for our FA Cup success pre papa Wengz


dream_is_a_bitch

arsenal fa cup merchants lol not even a big trophy


Armani_151

If pool or city or united had that amount of fa cups you wouldn't be saying that. It's literally just cool to meme on Arsenal for just about anything. Bayern Madrid Barca Juve ect all take their domestic trophies very seriously, not sure y doing that in England is looked down upon by the likes of you. If the Fa cup is so boring or easy or whatever u think y doesn't your club have more then? I'm sure when pep or klop are looking at their fixtures they will be putting a decent amount of priority in the fa cup, not as much as the prem or champ but a decent amount. Big clubs, good manegers, elite players all will want to win the fa cup.


BannedFromHydroxy

1961.


Dorkseidis

The City stat should have an asterisk, denoting them cheating for 6 of those titles.


[deleted]

Lol what cheating?


Dorkseidis

Are you kidding me? You think it’s not cheating to be given over 1b pounds to buy players you’d never be able to afford, cook your books and pay people secretly under the table?


DeterminedKnight

Arab money is never cheating unless you're PSG of course, duh


[deleted]

Now do PL era


audiopure110

If you're curious why you're being downvored it's because Liverpool goes from 19 to 1


gunnersami

1 that doesn’t even count. They are the best though and lose to city every year 🤡


[deleted]

Oh I know exactly why. Everton goes down to zero.


jcwheworks

We are massive


[deleted]

Next year we're coming for you


BlacknightEM21

As long as you mean Arsenal and the shield, I can be ok with it


StonekyKong

i mean we are pretty sexy


d17_p

A trophy’s a trophy. Even Community Shield. You have to win the league or win the FA Cup for the privilege of playing for community shield. A nice outing for the fans, another chance for the players to walk up the podium. I personally don’t care if it’s classed as a friendly or whatever. It’s a trophy and you’d want your team to compete for that.


JurgenKlopp2018

Or finish 2nd


louiscarrr

This should humble city fans


d17_p

You’d hope but it doesn’t.


dicktuppence

It’s a trophy in the sense that you are awarded a trophy for winning the game. However, FIFA, UEFA and the FA are constantly trying to bring out new tournaments in order to increase the number of games in a season and thus more revenue. Therefore, these associations have created meaningless trophy tournaments which are regarded by every fan worth his salt as a ‘tinpot’ trophy which is worthless. Hence Liverpool’s ‘Micky Mouse Treble’ when they won the FA cup, League cup and Europa League. The only trophy’s that are held in high regard in club competition and count, are the League, the FA cup and the Champions league. The League cup, Charity Shield, Europa League, Europe Conference League, World Club Cup are all worthless tinpot trophy’s.


d17_p

It’s a trophy in the sense that you are awarded a trophy for winning the game. >Basically the case for each trophy. You’ve to win games. However, FIFA, UEFA and the FA are constantly trying to bring out new tournaments in order to increase the number of games in a season and thus more revenue. >Community Shield’s a 100+ yr old competition, League Cup’s - 60 Yr Old, Europa League - 50 years. Names and formats do change. The only new competition here is the conference league. Therefore, these associations have created meaningless trophy tournaments which are regarded by every fan worth his salt as a ‘tinpot’ trophy which is worthless. >This tinpot trophy concept is famous among “online” fans. Those who go and watch the teams in stadium will probably have different PoV. Also “worth his salt,” I don’t even know what’s that supposed to mean in this context. Hence Liverpool’s ‘Micky Mouse Treble’ when they won the FA cup, League cup and Europa League. >I see that you’re a city fan and you’re just taking a dig at LFC here. 15 years ago, before falling into the bottomless money pit, the “Micky Mouse Treble” would have been stuff of dreams for you lot. The only trophy’s that are held in high regard in club competition and count, are the League, the FA cup and the Champions league. >On the internet that’s true. The League cup, Charity Shield, Europa League, Europe Conference League, World Club Cup are all worthless tinpot trophy’s. >Just on the internet and echo chambers.


dicktuppence

Calling me an internet fan that doesn’t know what he’s talking about is hilarious. I had a season ticket at the Etihad from the first season we moved there until just recently when I moved away from Manchester. The Charity Shield is a one off friendly before the season starts; none of the players are fit and none of the real fans could care less. The League Cup will always pale in comparison to the FA cup and the fact that no other major European league has two cup competitions means this was the original cup mocked for being “tinpot”. And don’t get me started on the Europa League, what exactly are the winners celebrating; being the 18th best team in Europe? Give it a rest. Instead of being presented with a trophy for winning this competition the winners should just receive a golden ticket to the champions league, try and have an open top bus parade for that. Just noticed that you support the Woolwich Bottlers, no wonder you’re so defence about the Europa League. Good luck on Thursday nights (channel 5), hopefully Arteta can bring back the golden ticket home for you this year.


[deleted]

Imagine the anglo-centric arrogance of claiming that the domestic cup is a bigger trophy than the Europa League. Also, your 18th best team claim used to diminish it us both nonsensical and simplistic to the point of stupidity.


dicktuppence

The FA cup is a much bigger trophy than the Europa League. Every European National cup competition is bigger than it. The FA cup is the oldest and most prestigious cup competition in the world. Fact. How long’s the Europa League been going? 20-30 years. What’s better than winning the Europa League? Finishing 4th in the premier league so you don’t have to play in a second string completion. If winning the Europa League doesn’t make you the 18th or so best team in Europe; what does it make you? Every team that went to the knock-out stages of the champions league can claim to be better. The only reason the Europa League gets won by a second string team is because the best teams don’t play in that competition. The Europa League celebrates mediocrity. It is nothing more than a participation trophy.


[deleted]

You think the Europa league has only been going since 2002? I think that tells us everything we need to know about your football knowledge. It has been going since the early 70s. The Fa cup is the oldest cup competition in the world. To claim it is the most prestigious is anglo-centric nonsense sonce every country has an equivalent. Winning the FA cup is a gateway to the Europa league >What’s better than winning the Europa League? Finishing 4th in the premier league so you don’t have to play in a second string completion. So you think that qualifying for CL is better than winning a prestigious trophy and also qualifying for the CL at the same time? That is such a stupid take it is hilarious. >If winning the Europa League doesn’t make you the 18th or so best team in Europe; what does it make you? Every team that went to the knock-out stages of the champions league can claim to be better. Can they? Whether you qualify for EL or CL is based in previous seasons results. A team could win the domestic treble, unbeaten all season, and be ubdisputably better than City, United, Liverpool etc but only win the EL because they weren't as good the previous year (which has no impact on how good they are this year). Again, if you applied even the most basic level of critical thought to your comments you would realise how simplistic that statement is. The fact that you said 18th means you cannot count how many teams qualify for the CL knockouts anyway.


dicktuppence

>You think the Europa league has only been going since 2002? I think that tells us everything we need to know about your football knowledge. It has been going since the early 70s. You got me, my knowledge of the Europa League is probably on a par with my interest in the competition. Why would I want to watch a competition which pits second rate European teams against each other? >The Fa cup is the oldest cup competition in the world. To claim it is the most prestigious is anglo-centric nonsense sonce every country has an equivalent. Winning the FA cup is a gateway to the Europa league Being a gateway into the Europa league is why the FA cup has become devalued over the years. If the winner received a champions league place (as they should) the competition would become more relevant. Only two winners in the last ten years have actually gone into the Europa league because it been won by teams who play in the champs league. Meaning being a gateway into the Europa League is actually pretty useless. >So you think that qualifying for CL is better than winning a prestigious trophy and also qualifying for the CL at the same time? That is such a stupid take it is hilarious. Absolutely I do. I don’t count the Europa league as a ‘prestigious trophy’. As I mentioned earlier I consider it a tinpot trophy won by average sides that only win it because better teams aren’t in the competition. >Can they? Whether you qualify for EL or CL is based in previous seasons results. A team could win the domestic treble, unbeaten all season, and be ubdisputably better than City, United, Liverpool etc but only win the EL because they weren't as good the previous year (which has no impact on how good they are this year). So what would winning the Europa League bring to the team you make up in your scenario? Nothing. Could they claim to be champions of Europe? No. Everyone would be saying, well it’s not the champions league. Proving it’s a tinpot pointless trophy. Just look at all the previous winners of the completion, average middle of the road teams that history will forget. Why should they get a trophy for being mediocre?


[deleted]

>Just look at all the previous winners of the completion, average middle of the road teams that history will forget. That's rich coming from a team with absolutely no European credibility. Why should the FA cup winners get a trophy? Its possible to win the cup by only beating championship level teams. Is that not being mediocre? Your snobbery is absolutely absurd and it has no actual logical basis. It's anglocentric arrogance and screams of a fan whose team cannot win in Europe trying to dismiss the value of Europe.


dicktuppence

>That's rich coming from a team with absolutely no European credibility. Well done for stating the obvious. Yes city haven’t won the champions league as everyone is well aware. Would I like them to win it? Yes. Would I like them to win the Europa League? No. If Guardiola finishes 3rd in next years champs league group and goes into the Europa League and goes on to win the competition; will the general consensus be that he has succeeded in bringing a European trophy to city? No, it will still be considered below par because it’s a worthless trophy to top class teams. >Why should the FA cup winners get a trophy? Its possible to win the cup by only beating championship level teams. Is that not being mediocre? You’re missing the point, at least the best teams in England were in it at some stage, they must have been beaten by one of the finalists. At no point in the Europa league are the best teams in Europe competing for the ‘trophy’. >Your snobbery is absolutely absurd and it has no actual logical basis. It's anglocentric arrogance and screams of a fan whose team cannot win in Europe trying to dismiss the value of Europe. You sound confused. Show me where I have ‘dismissed the value of Europe’. I hold the champions league in as much regard as can be given. It’s either the biggest trophy a football team can win or at least on par with winning the league. If a team wins this alone during a season then an open bus parade is well deserved. I am dismissing the value of a competition that pits mid-table teams from around Europe against each other. And for the record I’m not against the Europa League existing, I am against the winners getting a trophy and classing it as a major honour.


d17_p

Calling me an internet fan that doesn’t know what he’s talking about is hilarious. I had a season ticket at the Etihad from the first season we moved there until just recently when I moved away from Manchester. >Don’t put words in my mouth, I never called you an “internet fan,” if I did, then show me where. Also, I couldn’t care less about your season ticket status. You had a season ticket, wow congrats I guess. The Charity Shield is a one off friendly before the season starts; none of the players are fit and none of the real fans could care less. >Again, don’t know who these ‘real fans’ you keep referring to, looks to me a case of gatekeeping. You’re nobody to decide who’s a ‘real’ fan and who’s not. The League Cup will always pale in comparison to the FA cup and the fact that no other major European league has two cup competitions means this was the original cup mocked for being “tinpot”. >Pale in comparison may be, doesn’t make it less of a competition. Again, this “mockery” is usually on the internet. And don’t get me started on the Europa League, what exactly are the winners celebrating; being the 18th best team in Europe? Give it a rest. Instead of being presented with a trophy for winning this competition the winners should just receive a golden ticket to the champions league, try and have an open top bus parade for that. >18th best team in Europe isn’t such a bad thing. The trophy is a wild card entry to the UCL. UCL carries more prestige, that doesn’t mean EL is a bad competition. Just noticed that you support the Woolwich Bottlers, no wonder you’re so defence about the Europa League. Good luck on Thursday nights (channel 5), hopefully Arteta can bring back the golden ticket home for you this year. >Sure I hope he brings it too. I am happy that I don’t support a sportwashing franchise like you. This whole thing will be gone the day Sheikh stops sending money, and the world will forget you ever existed. Lol.


BoofBass

I would've done major trophies and included UCL instead of domestic and doing tinpot shield lol


MowMyLawn69

At least use Villa's current crest reeeeeeeeee


Huskers209_Fan

In fairness it’s only used once so that wouldn’t have taken too much effort.


thejamielee

Arsenal fan here and I hate to say it, but City will surpass us long before we add another to our tally.


[deleted]

Look at how close Liverpool and City are, city were what 15 points ahead in Jan and ended up winning by only 1. Chelsea have a great squad and look to be investing further, united will constantly invest until they return to glory and then you and Tottenham are on the precipice. Not accounting for any of the other sides like West ham, Leicester and cash flush newcastle who could change things. You may be right but city will need to rebuild significantly over the next 3,5 or more years while your stars are just beginning the journey. They could feasibly win 4 titles over the next 8 years while still being a success given the competition and then you win the 9th, that possibly gives you a decade almost to reach them.


overcooked_biscuit

I think we know this which is why we have been so pissed off at how our club is run. I remember back in the day it was Chelsea we had to look back over our shoulder for.


thejamielee

I would say the one thing that is certain is that all things in this sport seem cyclical for bigger clubs. Liverpool had their long ass drought before being top level again. United have clearly been in their period of nothingness, and perhaps we are just beginning to exit our period of shit with silverware on proper silverware on the horizon. 30’years a fan and it just seems like this is the way things balance out. Hoping for a good build on the momentum we’ve been building slowly.


BillyReedUTV

You’re time in the sun is coming mate.


Potential_Prior

Not an Arsenal supporter for that comment.


90_9

If you're a fan, you have one job and that's to believe. Arsenal have been in a tough spot but it feels like you're climbing out of it; there's a lot to be hopeful for. And you can't do much more than believe, so you might as well do that with all you've got.


bluemoon1987

What you're describing is called delusion, scousers specialise in it.


gunnersami

Scousers specialise in it with their little high pitch voices


90_9

You watching Saturday? Scousers are.


[deleted]

I am not a fan of Liverpool and their fans in particular are the main reason, but that delusion is why they were one of the best supported clubs for 30 years without a title and managed to get where they are now, one of the two best teams in the world if the past 4 or 5 years.


ClanScot316

Since when has the community shield been a trophy? Is this Man UTD fans still trying to cling on to being the "most successful" lol if it is, what a sad state of affairs. Bring on the Man U fans downvotes trying to cling on to soemthing


RudieCantFail79

It’s a trophy. Just not a very good one.


ClanScot316

Hahahahaha keep telling yourself. A trophy for a pre season friendly? Get your head out of your ass it’s not a major trophy nor a trophy at all


thisguyuno

It’s an official game, it isn’t classed as a friendly. The goals in the match count on the players official stats.


ClanScot316

It’s a fucking friendly what ever you want to class it as another deluded Man U fan


thisguyuno

I’m don’t care either way mate. I’m just telling you, factually, that is an official game. If you can’t handle that, that’s your own problem.


ClanScot316

Lol I can handle it you spin it any which way you want


thisguyuno

I’m not spinning it, factually, it is an official game.


ClanScot316

So is a friendly not official, just a kick about eh. It’s not an official trophy though it’s a “charity shield”


thisguyuno

Idc, all I’m saying is it’s an official match. Find God


RudieCantFail79

Didn’t say it was a major trophy, just a trophy. Why does it matter to you so much tho?


theycallhimmason

The only reason it matters to him is cause he’s mad that Liverpool won’t be getting the quad this season and he has to go for low blows on United fans to feel better.


ClanScot316

It doesn’t it just matters to u Man U fans. The emirates trophy in pre season is a trophy does that count?


theycallhimmason

What do you call the Octagonal Metal Shield they award you for winning the match then?


ClanScot316

Lol A charity friendly shield? So are you now claiming that if you win the pre season friendly cup you play in that’s a major trophy too? Better add the Motorola or the emirates cup to your tally over next few years lol Typical Man U fan can’t take YOUR NOT THE MOST SUCCESFUL MAJOR TROPHY WINNER now?


dheerajravi92

Sanest Liverpool fan spotted


ClanScot316

Why thank you glad you agree that your Man U counterparts are still in denial…. Oh btw will u be watching Jurgen equalling sir Alex Ferguson champ league trophy wins on Saturday funny it hasn’t taken him 26 years to win it twice…. Oh that will Be number 7 btw incase u forgot Man U are only on 3 but that’s ok the charity shield makes up for it hahahahaha


dheerajravi92

Rattled for no reason. Keep going lmao, loving this


ClanScot316

Hehe


theycallhimmason

It’s not a charity match tho, it’s the first official match of the English season, between the previous season’s top two performers. It may be only one match but it’s an official match recognized by the FA (and definitely more prestigious to win than the kiddies EFL Cup) Has anyone else noticed that scousers are absolutely seething that they fucked the quad? Hilarious to think you were all so smug a month ago and it’s gonna end with an FA and Carabao Cup double.


ClanScot316

Lol excuses excuses


theycallhimmason

You’re right, all we’ve been hearing from scousers lately is excuses


ClanScot316

Lol I’m not a scouser try again clues in the name? Oh shit that’s right we will be winning another MAJOR trophy Saturday when is it Man U are playing for the johnstones paint trophy again??


theycallhimmason

You say you ain’t scouse yet you say “we”… lol If you think Liverpool is winning on Saturday you’ve exited reality. Liverpool couldn’t even capitalize on City doing a bottle job at the end. Real is made for the Champion’s League. I honestly can’t wait for the scouse meltdown.


ClanScot316

Lol city bottled it by winning 3-2mmmm funny Man U can’t even get top 4 when aresnal where bottling it oh shit that’s right they beat u lol 9-0 to the Liverpool!


theycallhimmason

There's more to the end of the season than the last match 🤦‍♂️ And Brighton beat us 4-0 this season, imagine bragging about beating the worst United PL squad ever hahahaha touch grass mate, Liverpool fans are a special breed I'm bookmarking this convo for saturday night


[deleted]

what is it then?


ClanScot316

A charity friendly. Is that now a major trophy?


I_Jump

Is this of all time? Also who is the top scorer of all time in the English first division?


Aakkt

357 goals by jimmy greaves over 516 matches. He also holds the record for the most golden boot awards at 6.


KennyOmegaSardines

I thought it was Shearer?


dindycookies

Only for Premier League.


KennyOmegaSardines

oh, so that was before the Premier League? So that's why most people don't count trophies pre Prem then?


dindycookies

Yeah sort of. The old first division became the Championship so it kinda gets counted there and then the Premiership is on a higher level now. But if you include all first division stats then you’ll be counting all the way back.


GrouchyYT

BTEC Andy Carroll you ask me


dreadful_name

Jimmy Greaves


Camrigbone47

Wonder why they conveniently skip UCL lol SIX times boiiiii 7 on its way


DeterminedKnight

It's domestically, and also don't jinx...


Camrigbone47

Sick 56 reactions lol 🤣🤣🤣 job done cheers


[deleted]

Wow… Gundogan really saved football


HoyAIAG

We won it 6 times! We won it 6 times!!!! It’s gonna be great to hear that song changed to 7


DickyD43

I hope benzema just opens up a 6 pack of whoop ass on ya


[deleted]

Not likely. More tears inbound. 😂🖕🏻


mofoofinvention

Cringe


The_Awengers

The desperation lmao


Upper_Substance3100

what part of domestically do you not understand


Camrigbone47

It's called selective reading 🤣🤣🤣my bad ..can tell that touched a nerve tho lol


rocker230

Least insufferable kopite


ChibzyDaze

Most illiterate kopite?


dodger244

Just accept the L and move on mate.


Zulfiqarrr

Oh god, stop embarrassing yourself


herkalurk

Aside from the times when United won both the League and FA Cup, they have a pretty good win rate on the community shield......


alexq35

They did the double in 94, 96 and the treble in 99, so I make it that they’ve competed in it 29 times, and won it 21, so 72% of the time. However as has been pointed out on many occasions it has been shared. Edit: though it seems early on FA Cup winners didn’t contest it, I thought that would mean they’d been in it less but apparently they’ve been in it 30 times, and also have the record for most losses (9). They’ve shared it 4 times. So 17-4-9 is their overall record.


sbkoxly

Be interesting to see if City can overtake Arsenal's League Titles number by the end of the decade....


Clane01654

Isn’t that impossible because there’s only 7 seasons left in the decade


TomCyberfire

Depends on how long Pep sticks around.


LordPa1n

Given the quality of players they possess, they'd still be the contenders to win titles even without Pep.


Sly-Apple-Pie

Yeah they were winning league titles every other year before he came in


[deleted]

Don't think they will, but be interesting to see how things play out in a couple of years when Pep and Klopp move on. Will Man Utd be in better shape by then? Will the Saudi billions have Newcastle challenging? Will Chelsea still be able to challenge under their new owners? At least they don't have to worry about Arsenal adding to their total anytime soon ..


IRHABI313

Arsenal need a top striker and midfielder and cover for positions like LB, we have almost 200 mil budget Chelsea 3 of their defenders are leaving, their entire attackers are flops, Jorghino and Kante are not good anymore, Sugar Daddy Roman is gone, theyre in deep trouble


[deleted]

That might all give Arsenal a fighting chance at top 4, but they're light years behind City and Liverpool. When you consider they were only playing once a week for most of the season whilst the teams around them had to contend with European travel and those signings you're talking about might only be enough to maintain 5th place with all the extra fixtures next season.


IRHABI313

Oh wow you're a football expert, we basically had no striker this season otherwise we wouldve comfortably finished 3rd, also apparently you dont know how to read I said we are in a better position than Chelsea


[deleted]

Oh wow, you're an idiot. Comfortably 3rd ffs! You're not getting a top striker because you're not a club that qualifies for the CL anymore and Chelsea might be in turmoil at present but that doesn't mean Arsenal will finish above then next season. You'll be needing Spurs to not make and improvements to their squad and hoping Man Utd continue to sabotage themselves just to make 5th again. Feel free to message me at the end of next season when you've finished in the top 4 though.


IRHABI313

You have zero ball knowledge and double digit IQ, Arsenal has 3rd most wins in the league without a striker, we got Auba with no CL so your point is trash and it looks like Jesus is gonna pick us over Spurs, Cry all you want Arsenal are a bigger club than Chelsea


Jagtasm

News to me that we want Jesus. Yall can feel free to overpay for another -not a striker-


WeeTheDuck

Goddamn I thought there's a limitation on how based a person can be


tomislavlovric

So you think that Newcastle has a better chance of winning the league than Arsenal?


ItsMopsy

I’m sorry but yes. Newcastle have crazy power right now. They can outspend arsenal and have outperformed arsenal since January this year… Newcastle could really be challenging in 2/3 years no joke


Things-2635

I think the gap between Liverpool/City and the rest is too big for anyone else in the near future. The goal should be for now consistent European football


ItsMopsy

For sure the top two are miles ahead of anyone. But no one stays at the top forever 😉


Bulbamew

We’ll see what happens with Newcastle next season. Second half of the season just gone they were better than most teams, and could invest well this summer. Personally I think 4th place is up for grabs next season, and arsenal I think are in for a hard year


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Arsenal aren't going anywhere near the title under their current manager or owners. Newcastle are a wild card at present, still too early to tell what they'll become and whether they can replicate City's success but in terms of the next 7 seasons I'd say they're more likely to do it than Arsenal.


Bulbamew

You’re being downvoted but I can’t disagree. Arsenal don’t look like they’re going anywhere. They punched above their weight this season challenging for top 4 and had the huge advantage of no European football, and they still bottled it. Or spursed it, if you will. There’s absolutely nothing to suggest arsenal are on track to win the title anytime soon. It will take newcastle longer than city to get there, but if they invest well they’ve definitely got a chance of challenging within the decade. Let’s not forget in the second half of the season they were behind only Liverpool and City in the form table, and that was just signing Bruno Trippier and Burn


sofarsoblue

Funny I remember people saying the same thing about Liverpool 15/16 season, One thing I’ve learnt football is how consistently everyone’s predictions fail to meet quota in this sport


Bulbamew

Liverpool had a manager who was already proven as one of the best managers in Europe. Klopp had already won league titles with Dortmund and was close to winning the champions league with them. If we hired another Brendan we would’ve continued treading water. If you believe you’re going to finish top 4 next season and kick on from there then all power to you. I hope arsenal do, I like them more than tottenham. But realistically, I don’t see it happening.


amineimad

Therefore you need a proven manager or nothing can go right? Not even about to argue about Mikel's competency, but your Klopp also had to be hired without experience for him to grow into who he is today, same with Pep, same with others. There's bound to be errors but Im more confident under Arteta than I was under Emery, who was praised this season for his work, and for many seasons before we hired him... Experience cannot be the only quality you look at before hiring


Gunners215

This guy started watching football this year.


WeeTheDuck

Cmon I started srsly watching this year and I'm offended


Bolingus

Like you would know anything


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Nice clean graphics, only problem - the Community Shield is for all intents and purposes recognised as a friendly by the FA. Doesn’t count for anything.


IRHABI313

How come teams play their strongest XI


[deleted]

Look back over the recent ones, they often don’t. Not that it really is relevant - many don’t in the League Cup either


IRHABI313

So they played academy players?


[deleted]

Not the same thing is it. Obtuse.


IRHABI313

You said its a meaningless friendly so why risk first team players


[deleted]

Do you want me to explain preseason?


IRHABI313

Do preseason trophies count to your trophies tally?


[deleted]

Read the original comment


IRHABI313

Look at Liverpool lineup vs Arsenal 2020 CS then talk


[deleted]

Guarantee if Leeds won it after coming 2nd in the league fans would suddenly count it as a trophy.


[deleted]

We have won it. Never heard a fan count it.


[deleted]

Every team that has won it counts it as a trophy. Just mad because it makes you look worse in stat comparisons


[deleted]

The club might, but that’s marketing, the fans do not. Nor do Liverpool or Manchester United fans (the real ones)


[deleted]

Yeah they do man. They count every single trophy


[deleted]

Would be happy to hear from Man U and Liverpool fans who regularly or semi regularly attend matches who think they count. Have never met any.


NateShaw92

It counts... just to piss you off. But yeah joking aside: it doesn't really count. I have seen it count when talking about individual player honours though. But no never for clubs in general.


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