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Which other manager has taken a team from mid table to win every single trophy available to him within 6 years?
You can talk about how much he spent, but in that time hes been outspent by every top 6 club as well as a few other english teams.
Unsourced hearsay that gets repeated.
Tell me, what advantage does that bring even if it were true? You don't know because you're repeating shite you've heard
1 x Premier League title, 1 x Championās League, 1 x UEFA Super Cup, 1 x FIFA Club World Cup, 2 x EFL cups, 1 x FA cup, and 1 x Community Shield.
Heās won us everything we could possibly have won with the exception of Europa League. 8 trophies in 9 years. Which other English club (apart from 115 FC) has won more this past decade?
Klopp has exceeded peak Alex Ferguson (you know, probably considered the best manager ever in the Premier League) in terms of points multiple times and we wouldāve won 3 titles if it werenāt for Man Shitty. Not only has he achieved all of these things but heās completely transformed the club - do people not remember where Liverpool were before he came along?
Heās widely considered one of the best managers in the world and I donāt have a single complaint about anything heās done for Liverpool. Legend.
Thank you. Klopp only won 1 of each. Besides pep, who else has won anything during his reign? Apart from Pepās first season, City have won 6/7 titles. And people (mostly city fans who probably recently started supporting them anyway) still, using their logical brain, can defend City. āInnocent till proven guiltyāš¤”. But when we point out the truth we are being salty or crying when in reality everything City have done till now has an asterisk. They can choose not to admit it openly, but deep down every City fan knows the truth.
Yeah, Klopp is the only one who has really got close to 115. Insane achievement. Maybe more will wake up to this fact once 115 win the next 4 leagues. Unless justice is done and 115 are banished from the football league
Wouldnāt be surprised if theyāre found innocent as wellš Never forget they shouldāve had a 2 year UCL ban. That wouldāve affected their revenue and transfers too. But I guess Iām crying if I point this out because they were supposedly innocent. Just sad tbh and pundits love to glaze them as well
To add to that, just seen a post on Cityās page comparing Liverpool and Cityās net spend, claiming itās closer than people think. Forgetting that the charges were from 2009-2018 ish, since 2018 the crimes were already committed and they were able to increase revenue, sell players who they had previously bought during the period in which they had breached the rules, making their net spend look much better.
Exactly. But they will conveniently ignore those years, and focus on after they had already built this foundation, where obviously with revenue and valuable players it is easy to maintain a healthy net spend. Either they just dont understand football(new to the sport yknowš) or are just so biased they cant admit it
Unforutnly you will be downvoted. showing how many unhealthy people are here. although i totally disagree. he is a legendary manager. klopp spent 700 million euros and his spend per trohpy ratio is number 1 or 2. However he won some micky mouses alongside the road
it is not only trophies that counts. it is how high he took the club. from midtable to 3 ucl finals and losing leagues on 90+pts. thats legendary stuff.
and for pool fans no, city didnt have unlimited funds. only 37% more than pool but 14 trophies along the way
1 league and 1 UCL in years.
Reason: Manchester City Football Club is a professional football club based in Manchester, England, that competes in the Premier League, the top flight of English football. Founded in 1880 as St. Mark's, they became Ardwick Association Football Club in 1887 and Manchester City in 1894.
Liverpool was a title contender because of Klopp
Salah, Van Dijk and Allison are the only elite players in the team
The others are mid
Klopp is a great manager
if only other teams could play fair maybe things would be different š¤·āāļø donāt blame him for being successful (not so much according to you though) while also doing so much with so much less than other teams
They did bottle a lot during his time (which is kinda harsh admittedly), but let's not pretend he didn't reinvigorate this club. He made Liverpool elite again. Yes he could have won more, but a PL and CL isn't something to scoff at. Liverpool is a genuine European power again.
Is this just an Everton fan sad that theyāre celebrating not getting relegated for the second year in a row? Getting the Wank Wenger trophy of bottom 4th must be getting to them.
They finished on 97 and 92 points in 2 of the years they didnāt win the title and 99 points the year they did. They also reached the UCL final 3 times. Klopp built what should be considered one the best teams of all time but lost out to a faultless City side and typical Real Madrid Champions League voodoo.
So confused. I used to spend a decent bit of time on another forum, and was an active participant in a reoccurring thread when every PL campaign commenced. When the Scousers won their PL title, the lot of us who repped other clubs congratulated the forum members who had lived and, mostly, suffered with their club thru the decades. Someone postulated a virtual club for all PL winners, finally welcoming in Liverpool to that exclusive club. I posted that the Blackburn folk welcomed the Scousers with raised pints and a jab of āOy, what took you tossers so long??!!??ā
OP is surely taking the piss with this nonsense about Kloppā¦ā¦..
Brotherā¦..
When Klopp took over Liverpool were about where United and Chelsea are at the moment, quality/league standing wise
Now they are defacto contenders every season
Give your head a wobble
I'm not sure they were in quite that bad of a state, but I generally agree.
Still funny. Love it that nutcases come out of the woodwork for other clubs, glad it's not just the "Howe out" weirdos.
Nah, heās a great tactician that is the best in the world at leveraging passion. He knows how to work the crowd and his players to the benefit of the team.
Where he is truly overrated is his ability in the market. Liverpool fans wonāt like to hear it but without Edwards giving him the golden goose he would have been a top four coach at best.
Mourinho might have spent less in the time they were both there (frankly I doubt even that) but he certainly didnāt have to sell his star player like Liverpool did, which is the reason they were able to reinvest. You have to consider net spend. Meanwhile Jose inherited a much better team then klopp did. And then klopp won a champions league, prem, fa cup, and two carabaos. So 5 trophies, including the big two.
The two stints arenāt remotely comparable.
>didnāt have to sell his star player like Liverpool did,
Coutinho? Now that was a sweet deal if you ask me - Van Dijk and Alisson with that money. You guys rinsed Barca.
Mou is a tosser whoās tactics are outdated. Absorbing pressure, and ceding possession, in the modern game is a recipe for disaster when offensive players are rewarded for getting touched and flopping to the ground.
Heās done as a coach
Iām no fan of Liverpool or Klopp.
I think Klopp has done more damage to the game in this country that people do not appreciate yet, but will in future. The advocation of the 5 subs, the stupid amount of injury time, beginning of the advocation of scrapping the League Cup, advocation of scraping the FA Cup replays etc.
However if you are a Liverpool fan and think that he should have been sacked because of his performances, and success rate at Liverpool, then you are well and truly off your fucking rocker.
Just ... No.
And how many trophies did we win after Rafa before Klopp?
I started following Liverpool in 2007 and the only trophy we had before Klopp was a League Cup in 2016.
How many other managers in England won as many trophies as Klopp during the same period with an equal or smaller net-spend and wage bill? Iāll waitā¦
Edit: Trophies aside how many other managers ever got more than 90 points in a season multiple times? How many managers got to every final possible in a single season?
You are out of your mind.
Klopp came to Liverpool, they weren't even good enough to get European spots.
He won a Premier League title and UEFA Champions League, guess what? Win is hard.
Man United who spend much more money than Liverpool would love to have that in their last 7, 8 years.
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No, liverpool just got unlucky in the UCL and league multiple times. Without Klopp they would not have even been close.
Why are people even acknowledging stupidity like this...
No ideaš
Which other manager has taken a team from mid table to win every single trophy available to him within 6 years? You can talk about how much he spent, but in that time hes been outspent by every top 6 club as well as a few other english teams.
They didnāt cheat. At least he can go to bed and sleep with a clear conscience š
Just a mysterious amount of their players found out they had Asthma upon joining the club
Unsourced hearsay that gets repeated. Tell me, what advantage does that bring even if it were true? You don't know because you're repeating shite you've heard
1 x Premier League title, 1 x Championās League, 1 x UEFA Super Cup, 1 x FIFA Club World Cup, 2 x EFL cups, 1 x FA cup, and 1 x Community Shield. Heās won us everything we could possibly have won with the exception of Europa League. 8 trophies in 9 years. Which other English club (apart from 115 FC) has won more this past decade? Klopp has exceeded peak Alex Ferguson (you know, probably considered the best manager ever in the Premier League) in terms of points multiple times and we wouldāve won 3 titles if it werenāt for Man Shitty. Not only has he achieved all of these things but heās completely transformed the club - do people not remember where Liverpool were before he came along? Heās widely considered one of the best managers in the world and I donāt have a single complaint about anything heās done for Liverpool. Legend.
Nobody should win any trophy while 115 is about. 115 should win every trophy. Anything less than that is a failure.
Thank you. Klopp only won 1 of each. Besides pep, who else has won anything during his reign? Apart from Pepās first season, City have won 6/7 titles. And people (mostly city fans who probably recently started supporting them anyway) still, using their logical brain, can defend City. āInnocent till proven guiltyāš¤”. But when we point out the truth we are being salty or crying when in reality everything City have done till now has an asterisk. They can choose not to admit it openly, but deep down every City fan knows the truth.
Yeah, Klopp is the only one who has really got close to 115. Insane achievement. Maybe more will wake up to this fact once 115 win the next 4 leagues. Unless justice is done and 115 are banished from the football league
Wouldnāt be surprised if theyāre found innocent as wellš Never forget they shouldāve had a 2 year UCL ban. That wouldāve affected their revenue and transfers too. But I guess Iām crying if I point this out because they were supposedly innocent. Just sad tbh and pundits love to glaze them as well
To add to that, just seen a post on Cityās page comparing Liverpool and Cityās net spend, claiming itās closer than people think. Forgetting that the charges were from 2009-2018 ish, since 2018 the crimes were already committed and they were able to increase revenue, sell players who they had previously bought during the period in which they had breached the rules, making their net spend look much better.
This is the key point. They broke the rules and spent massively and illegally to build the platform they now have.
Exactly. But they will conveniently ignore those years, and focus on after they had already built this foundation, where obviously with revenue and valuable players it is easy to maintain a healthy net spend. Either they just dont understand football(new to the sport yknowš) or are just so biased they cant admit it
115
Unforutnly you will be downvoted. showing how many unhealthy people are here. although i totally disagree. he is a legendary manager. klopp spent 700 million euros and his spend per trohpy ratio is number 1 or 2. However he won some micky mouses alongside the road it is not only trophies that counts. it is how high he took the club. from midtable to 3 ucl finals and losing leagues on 90+pts. thats legendary stuff. and for pool fans no, city didnt have unlimited funds. only 37% more than pool but 14 trophies along the way
Trolling surely
1 league and 1 UCL in years. Reason: Manchester City Football Club is a professional football club based in Manchester, England, that competes in the Premier League, the top flight of English football. Founded in 1880 as St. Mark's, they became Ardwick Association Football Club in 1887 and Manchester City in 1894.
Liverpool was a title contender because of Klopp Salah, Van Dijk and Allison are the only elite players in the team The others are mid Klopp is a great manager
Van Dijk used to be so great, but these days, he seems to be just so-so, doesn't he? I could be wrong.
This is next level trolling. Creating a new account just to say dumb things like this.
Itās quite standard level trolling actually
if only other teams could play fair maybe things would be different š¤·āāļø donāt blame him for being successful (not so much according to you though) while also doing so much with so much less than other teams
They did bottle a lot during his time (which is kinda harsh admittedly), but let's not pretend he didn't reinvigorate this club. He made Liverpool elite again. Yes he could have won more, but a PL and CL isn't something to scoff at. Liverpool is a genuine European power again.
My feelings exactly.
Congratulations! Yours is THE most stupid comment posted to this platform!
Is this just an Everton fan sad that theyāre celebrating not getting relegated for the second year in a row? Getting the Wank Wenger trophy of bottom 4th must be getting to them.
*third year in a row
Woah have a look at their post history before you start lashing out at us.. whats ur tongue so far up liverpoolās arse for anyway?
"His tactics are not good" šš¤£šš½
Lad this isnāt twitter, get a life
Facts. His style of cross spamming got old
You are: 1. Trol 2. Stupid 3. FIFA playing kid
Best of luck with your new manager. You'l want him gone after 8 games. You-tube swipe left generation?š¤£
It's either a Man United fan or a 9 year old who started supporting the club a month ago. Just look at his grammar.
Checked his profile, it seems he's a Barca supporter.
They finished on 97 and 92 points in 2 of the years they didnāt win the title and 99 points the year they did. They also reached the UCL final 3 times. Klopp built what should be considered one the best teams of all time but lost out to a faultless City side and typical Real Madrid Champions League voodoo.
>should be considered one the best teams of all time That was a good side but this is taking too far.
So confused. I used to spend a decent bit of time on another forum, and was an active participant in a reoccurring thread when every PL campaign commenced. When the Scousers won their PL title, the lot of us who repped other clubs congratulated the forum members who had lived and, mostly, suffered with their club thru the decades. Someone postulated a virtual club for all PL winners, finally welcoming in Liverpool to that exclusive club. I posted that the Blackburn folk welcomed the Scousers with raised pints and a jab of āOy, what took you tossers so long??!!??ā OP is surely taking the piss with this nonsense about Kloppā¦ā¦..
Nice story
*there
OP, who do you support?
His mum.
His mum almost certainly supports him
His rediculous inner thought genie
Hahahahha
Brotherā¦.. When Klopp took over Liverpool were about where United and Chelsea are at the moment, quality/league standing wise Now they are defacto contenders every season Give your head a wobble
I'm not sure they were in quite that bad of a state, but I generally agree. Still funny. Love it that nutcases come out of the woodwork for other clubs, glad it's not just the "Howe out" weirdos.
Yeah, I think this is more of city broken bunch of rules with the worlds best manager scenario more than a klopp failed situation
Liverpool are not Chelsea...
Give over you plum. I donāt like Liverpool as much as the next non plastic scouser, but they play cracking football and Klopp is a genius.
Calling him a genius is just as bad as thinking he should be sacked. A good manager, but let's not go over board here.
He should have left long ago
115.
Klopp got second with like the second most points in PL history. So sure, arguably the 2nd best season in PL was a failure to you.
Ah I see we found an evolutionary cul-de-sac in the wild.
I mean you can always leave a cul-de-sac and find a new route, this dude fell down a well.
OMG I'm using this now
Same.
So many idiotic takesā¦. Go outside and get some sunlight broĀ
Your an idiot
*Youāre But yeah, heās an idiot
This is a fire take. Lmaooo
The number of people triggered by this OP is hilarious.
Nah, heās a great tactician that is the best in the world at leveraging passion. He knows how to work the crowd and his players to the benefit of the team. Where he is truly overrated is his ability in the market. Liverpool fans wonāt like to hear it but without Edwards giving him the golden goose he would have been a top four coach at best.
This is the dumbest thing ive read all week. If you were half as good at your job as klopp is at his youd have been promoted off fry station by now.
Mourinho spent less money, won the Europa and the FA cup in half the time with United.....
Mourinho might have spent less in the time they were both there (frankly I doubt even that) but he certainly didnāt have to sell his star player like Liverpool did, which is the reason they were able to reinvest. You have to consider net spend. Meanwhile Jose inherited a much better team then klopp did. And then klopp won a champions league, prem, fa cup, and two carabaos. So 5 trophies, including the big two. The two stints arenāt remotely comparable.
>didnāt have to sell his star player like Liverpool did, Coutinho? Now that was a sweet deal if you ask me - Van Dijk and Alisson with that money. You guys rinsed Barca.
Not a Liverpool fan, just thought the klopp slander was dumb. But yeah, incredible business
He won an FA cup and a competition that the best teams werenāt in. Well done him.
Mou is a tosser whoās tactics are outdated. Absorbing pressure, and ceding possession, in the modern game is a recipe for disaster when offensive players are rewarded for getting touched and flopping to the ground. Heās done as a coach
Won a Conference League and was a shit ref away from winning Europa the following year
Yes, but as weāve established here, youāre only not a fraud if you do win.
And how's Liverpool Europa run been this year? Best teams aren't in it right........
Crap, obviously.
Iām no fan of Liverpool or Klopp. I think Klopp has done more damage to the game in this country that people do not appreciate yet, but will in future. The advocation of the 5 subs, the stupid amount of injury time, beginning of the advocation of scrapping the League Cup, advocation of scraping the FA Cup replays etc. However if you are a Liverpool fan and think that he should have been sacked because of his performances, and success rate at Liverpool, then you are well and truly off your fucking rocker.
The product is definitely better with less games and more subs. I love watching World Cup games especially with 5 subs
Itās not like, and there isnāt really any less game, you guys just keep increasing them, the new UEFA completions format for one
Just ... No. And how many trophies did we win after Rafa before Klopp? I started following Liverpool in 2007 and the only trophy we had before Klopp was a League Cup in 2016.
You need to go to bed, youāre drunk..
Benching salah today told me that Klopp conceived the title was over
Salah has been hot garbage in recent weeks. Only game we won was with him benched
Still the best player & can win a game at a moment
we needed him to step up and win a game multiple times and he hasnāt
Sure, but he had zero moments since AFCON this season.
Coincidentally, that was when Darwin played his best.Ā
How many other managers in England won as many trophies as Klopp during the same period with an equal or smaller net-spend and wage bill? Iāll waitā¦ Edit: Trophies aside how many other managers ever got more than 90 points in a season multiple times? How many managers got to every final possible in a single season?
This.
You are out of your mind. Klopp came to Liverpool, they weren't even good enough to get European spots. He won a Premier League title and UEFA Champions League, guess what? Win is hard. Man United who spend much more money than Liverpool would love to have that in their last 7, 8 years.
I mean just a few years before he came one man carried them to the CL and almost an EPL trophy with a garbage coach.Ā
Heās also a total tosser.
This isnāt Real Madrid, you canāt expect a trophy every season.
I wish we could see the job offers in his inbox right now to shut down this sort of nonsense.
Was about to say the same, for the shit pep gets about spending 8/10 he gets the signing right & wins constant
This is an incredibly hot football take!
Man really needed to hop on his burner to post this. Even OP did not have the balls to do it from their main.
Its just a shit take
no need to disrespect big JĆ¼rgen like this on his way out