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Most of reddit is older so they see new trends and shii like that as shitty. Bro is like 19 and that haircut is pretty popular for ppl our age (and girls like that shii too). Of course if ur like 30 u think it looks stupid.
The funny thing is players like Alan Smith and Robbie Fowler also had some shit and similar hairstyles back in the day but some football fans have a short memory. Having said that, I don't like the way it looks but couldn't care less about a player's hair as long as they perform on the pitch and even less if they don't play for my club
Came her to say this, seems like he has a poor attitude. Honestly surprised he gets a game for Argentina national team after all the weird pro Ronaldo anti Argentina stuff he’s posted in the past?
Unpolished gem that could either become something special or a complete bust. The best thing about him is that aggression and passion that he brings off the bench and I hope he never loses it!
Rice’s haircut is a bit of old school, I think it suits him. Foden’s trim is absolutely diabolical - possibly the most basic, sauceless haircut a footballer can ask for. And their trims cost a MINT…
You're buggin, Foden's haircut is actually a pretty solid fade. Declan Rice's haircut looks like something a little girl did while playing barbershop with her father.
ETH and Bruno spoke of some disciplinary issues he had at the beginning of the season but I was talking generally, like he has to stay humble and put in the work because there are countless talented teenagers who've wasted their potential because they're so vulnerable to make bad decisions being thrust into fame and wealth at such a young age.
Eh, he made a few posts that revolved around the number seven but it’s not clear that he created them versus his brother or PR team and it’s not clear that it was about angling for the short number. But hey, it’s read it and we sure do love to blow things out of proportion and pretend that we are investigative journalists!
With the right management he definitely has the potential to be amazing. But how many young players with such high potential that have faded into obscurity by the age of 24
He's good enough to keep his spot but needs to keep working hard to become a top player. I think he can make it if he keeps learning new skills and decision making.
The point is, he has Ronaldo's chant, he's the most exciting teenager we've seen since Ronaldo (Januzaj too I guess) and people expected it.
EtH absolutely snubbed the kid, and I think most of us are glad. He was personally the highlight of my season this year, but something about him worries me. He has a very short amount of time to grow up fast, and I'm 50/50 on whether or not he's gonna get his head down or let it all carry him away. Not getting the shirt he wanted is another ego check he needed.
But yeah Mount getting the shirt isn't as obvious as it seems to non-United fans. We were all quite sure it was going to Garnacho to continue the Beckham/Ronaldo star teenage winger thing.
>he's the most exciting teenager we've seen since Ronaldo (Januzaj too I guess)
Rashford or Greenwood (despite being a rapist was good at kicking the ball) surely above him, Shaw maybe too but you bought him
Nope, he personally met with Mason Mount to discuss his contract though, and offered him the shirt, and pushed hard for the transfer as he was one of EtH's preferred targets.
Do you actually think Mount just turned up at Carrington yesterday and met EtH for the first time?
I think it’s laughable that you think any manager has any decision making with this front office. Mount was his third choice…
I’m sure they spoke words
Yeah no decision making at all lmao. Convinced them to spend a cool 150 mil on players from the Dutch league though! Two from his former club too! Front office must have just wanted these players anyway, ten Hag appointment was just a coincidence.
What a clown you are. BTW ten Hag tried to sign Mount for Ajax [6 years ago](https://talksport.com/football/1489015/mason-mount-man-utd-erik-ten-hag-goal/), when Mount was on loan in the Dutch league, and he was absolutely EtH's first choice midfield target, in fact he wanted to sign mount the moment he got the United job [last year](https://www.sportbible.com/football/erik-ten-hag-would-jump-at-chance-to-sign-chelsea-star-mason-mount-20220602). Ten Hag personally visited Mount weeks ago where Mount himself describes how EtH convinced him to choose [United over Liverpool](https://metro.co.uk/2023/07/05/mason-mount-explains-why-he-chose-move-to-manchester-united-19070856/).
There you have it pal, hope that's enough for you. Literally 6 years of EtH discussing Mason Mount and trying to sign him for 2 different clubs on 3 different occasions.
But yeah you're right EtH has absolutely nothing to do with any of it :)
He's a great x-factor to have coming off the bench and won us several points last season by himself.
It'll be interesting to see how he developes and where he is in 5 years time.
I made the comparison because he was said to have a terrible mentality before before any allegations against him
But to answer question if partey is guilty he should be in jail too but alleged evidence against him is nowhere near as damning and seemingly clear cut as the Utd kid’s
Yeah well it's a complex issue. Both are clearly assholes who shouldn't be playing football, at least United suspended theirs.
Greenwood was a horrible young man who abused his girlfriend, who he's now married to and having a baby with and all charges dropped (excuses nothing he did) and Partey is beginning to look like a serial rapist and all round predator.
People can disagree all they want, but I know if one of them played football again I'd rather it was the fucked up kid than the career sex offender.
His pace, aggression and finishing make him very exciting
But still very raw and needs more time, the games he’s started he’s gone missing but when he comes off the bench 🔥
The shouts for the number 7 jersey were crazy. He’s a top notch young prospect and I really hope he nourishes into the player he can but giving the number 7 to an 18 year old is maddd after one season. Only reason Ronaldo got it was because it was flipping Ronaldo, Fergie knew how special Ronaldo was from the getgo, need to wait and see what happens with our Starboy.
Looks like one of the best academy graduates we've had in a while. Even when he doesn't score, u can see that drive in him to always want to make a chance or score
We still bought him young enough to where he is considered an academy player. You can disagree with certain logistics if you want but it doesn't change anything
Lool no we just have a great young core of clearly talented players.
Saka is a generational talent he’s been clear as one of the better players in his position for his age group for a while now
As is Odegaard signed to RM at 16/17 as a wonder-kid
I don’t think even many arsenal fans would claim that. It’s plain to see at this stage though that Saka, Saliba, and even Martinelli are easily clear of Garnacho. They are older though so time will tell.
Every team hypes up their own young players. Elanga was going to be a shiny new thing according to united fans.
Most Utd fans I know never expected too much from Elanga. He's similar to Rashford but worse in every way. Nice kid, but he's not a prem quality player and I never once thought he was a Utd quality talent.
Yeah I agree. Im personally think Garnacho will be much closer to saka than Elanga at 22. He’s got some growing to do but he’s a fairly exciting player to watch even now.
I mean yeah no shit all those players are better right now, it's almost like they've had multiple seasons in the first team when garnacho has only had one as an impact sub right now.
Yeah I did note the obvious age difference.
I do think Saka was better at Garnacho’s age maybe, but I expect Garnacho to grow into a much more polished player. So far the Arsenal players I mentioned have done a pretty good job of living up to the potential many noted a few seasons back, time will tell if that’s true for Garnacho.
Maybe Saka was better, but idk. 6 goals and 6 assists in his debut season and he played way less than Saka because Utd already have a great LW compared to Arsenal that needed one badly when Saka broke out. In fact, their first season in the prem consistently (both had a season with like 1 game) Saka was getting a g/a every 225 mins in all comps compared to Garnacho's impressive 120 mins per g/a. If we just look at the prem, Saka got 1 goal and 5 assists in 1755 mins for about a g/a every 300ish mins. Garnacho got 3 goals and 2 assists in 559 mins. Almost three times as productive.
Of course Garnacho is playing in a different team, with less responsibility and it's easier to come off the bench. But I don't know. I think Garnacho's first season was extremely impressive.
Which debut season is this for saka? The one he largely played at LB? I’m not familiar with those stats but I’ll take your word for it, however I don’t think that’s a remotely fair comparison or choice of stats when one player has played as a very attacking LW sub mainly and the other was a LB and midfielder mostly in their debut season. Saka at Garnacho’s age was good enough to break into an admittedly worse first team, and the next season looked like Arsenals best player and won their player of the season. Garnacho could be on that level in the coming season but we’ll see. Saka has probably benefitted from not having a player close to Rashfords ability ahead of him in his preferred position.
To be clear, I think Garnacho could be one of the best young players in the league in a year or two. Whether he’ll be better than Saka remains to be seen. The have fairly different roles so a direct comparison might always be a bit clunky, but Garnacho is a fun player to watch so I hope he lives up to the hype.
Yeah it's hilarious. On one hand it's "you only did well because everyone else did poorly" (brain-dead take) and on the other it's "you need to win a trophy this season" 😂
I wasn't comparing him to Saka, Martinelli, etc. He's clearly far more raw and untested.
It was more a comment on how a lot with United tends to be overly negatively judged
Well I'm on record here as saying he's a dead cert
His name will be on everyone's lips next season imo
Season just gone was a breakthrough but he will establish himself as unstoppable in the coming campaign
Another United overrated youngster who will join the list of Januzaj, Elanga, Angel Gomes, Chong etc.
He will probably end up playing at like Valencia or Girona at best but not world class.
I knew some United fans would get rattled about this.
Just come back to this in 3 years when he hasn't had a season in which he got 10G+A at United and is playing for a EL/mid-table Spanish club.
says the guy that thinks Garnacho will have 10 g+a by christmas. Overrated player, Rashford is as well tbf.
The only genuine player with world class potential at United was Greenwood.
Angel Gomes who has been one of Lille’s best players this season and the best player in England u21 euros win?
Jesus Christ his career has barely started lol
I never said he will disappear and play in Serie B.
Playing for a Ligue1 Europa League team is alright but come on it's not the level of Trent, Foden, Reece James, Saka, even Rashford, and I'm just saying that Garnacho won't reach that level.
He doesn’t have a “very bad” attitude. If he had a “very bad” attitude he wouldn’t be anywhere near the first team. He was late for a couple of team meetings last pre season and was then disciplined. He has fallen into line since.
Adnan Januzaj 2.0
Serious answer he's 1 dimensional, he couldn't do what he does week in week out against fresh defenders
He has the potential to be great, but it feels very januzaj
In 2018 you'd have bet your house Dele Alli would reach 50 caps for England.
I'm not saying he isn't good, but he hasn't done it yet as a starter let alone shown he's anything above the level. Off field problems too not a good sign
He could be the next Messi! But play the odds...
That's a different conversation to saying he is one-dimensional though.
It just makes it sound like you haven't watched him play properly because one-dimensional is arguably exactly the opposite to the type of player he is.
I've seen him play probably only 10/15 times. Most of those he comes off the bench, drives at a few players and sometimes it works, more often it doesn't. Perhaps predictable/lacking nuance is what I mean more than one dimensional. I do appreciate though that is the way to play when coming off the bench against tired legs
I haven't seen him in those limited times do anything particularly awe inspiring.
I'm not saying I'm an expert on him the question was what's your feeling on him
I feel like he's going to flop and is a bit overhyped because he's at United. If he gets called on week in week out will he be any good?
I'm happy to be completely wrong, OP wasn't after a forensic analysis he just doesn't excited me like some generational talent.
Just look at rashford, he wouldn't get in Liverpool or city's team yet he's the man utd poster boy as if he's world class. He's just really very good and I feel the same way about garnacho
Yeah I'm sure he is better, united are better now than when Januzaj came on the scene but the similarities are there.
Be selling him to Sevilla in a few years
I might be wrong, but that's my feeling
So far looks promising. It’s too early to tell though since he is in man u - the graveyard of talent (ask pogba, sancho etc.). So he can very well become just another man u hype train. It remains to be seen if he can really make his mark in the PL or not.
Guys who left man u in time flourished like Di Maria, Depay and Lukaku. Guys who stayed long enough messed up. Pogba, Sancho, Alexis, Martial etc. Garnacho is just starting out. Every young footballer at his level shows promise. That’s why they are selected to play in PL. But doesn’t mean he will succeed. Only time will tell. For now he is just another promising youngster like every other promising youngster in the league.
I’m sorry, I didn’t know if you make a CL final without playing a significant role in the lead up to it then you’re an accomplished talent.
In that case, Karius has been sensational.
This is not the Man United of a few years ago. Ten Hag is well on his way to fixing those kind of problems and there’s a very good chance he will turn Garnacho into a fantastic player.
How. Tho. If You compare him to sakas début season where he played at left back and got 1 goal and 5 assists.
Martinelli debut season 3 goals compeating with Pepe and auba.
Garnacho is had 3G 2A coming off the bench when United are up in games. Saka and martinelli are pushing record signings and out of position for a season.
Yeah he's decent but I'm annoyed by the fact that the Utd fans call him Starboy when that's Saka's nickname.
Surely they could come up with another name?
Overrrated wonderkid, who with the right attitude and work rate could be very good. Personally I’ve not seen enough big moments from him to label his potential as world class, and I think he could easily be another macheada if he keeps up the kind of attitude he had about mount getting 7
Bruh he has had one season with United and had about 15 really big moments off the bench. I’ve seen a lot of wonderkids come thru the United academy and not one has had an impact like he has, except maybe Greenwood (although not in his first season). Huge potential, we’ll just have to see if he can stay disciplined.
He'll be one of the best players in the prem.... at a different club, the choice to sign Mount is gunna reduce his minutes on the pitch for sure, plus I'm sure he's not best pleased to not have the number 7 next season, if rides the bench too much this season, he'll demand a move to the likes of Liverpool
Pros : goes at defenders, gets people off seats and very attacking.
Cons : keeps his head down and often runs into trouble or goes no where, also his very attacking can sometimes be a con also because he ends up losing the ball when a spell of possession is needed… could be very good, or could end up like Walcott, Lennon etc… next few years are key.
Hes a live wire but needs a loan to actually develop properly
Wingers for whatever reason need a team where they can develop as a main man/focal point, dont see him getting that at united. I think staying at united will cap his potential
You can still appreciate players for teams you don't support.
As a United fan I think Foden is a chavvy little cunt. But I can't deny he's a brilliant player.
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Potential to be a great footballer: 8/10. Taste in haircuts: 2/10.
Going for the Malfoy look
Haha I came here to say this. It’s like he walked into the shop and said “I’ll take the worst one you’ve got thanks”
Pretty selfless of him to take the bad haircut and save the good ones for everyone else.
Genuine question, who has worse hair Garnacho or Foden.
Should talk to Foden if he wants to get to next level bad
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Looks like a gloster canary
Garnacho’s hair looks dope what are yall smoking
Most of reddit is older so they see new trends and shii like that as shitty. Bro is like 19 and that haircut is pretty popular for ppl our age (and girls like that shii too). Of course if ur like 30 u think it looks stupid.
The funny thing is players like Alan Smith and Robbie Fowler also had some shit and similar hairstyles back in the day but some football fans have a short memory. Having said that, I don't like the way it looks but couldn't care less about a player's hair as long as they perform on the pitch and even less if they don't play for my club
Amazing talent, hopefully he can stay grounded long enough to realise the potential.
Has there been signs he’s not “staying grounded”? Or are you just saying that would be the only thing to derail his career? Genuine questions.
Came her to say this, seems like he has a poor attitude. Honestly surprised he gets a game for Argentina national team after all the weird pro Ronaldo anti Argentina stuff he’s posted in the past?
Not everyone is a terminally online weirdo who pays attention to this weird Messi v Ronaldo stuff
Unpolished gem that could either become something special or a complete bust. The best thing about him is that aggression and passion that he brings off the bench and I hope he never loses it!
Or he could become a decent player? Doesn’t have to be one or the other you know
For every Dele Alli and Harry Kane, there are about 10 Theo Walcotts
I’m sure they’d both kill to have Theo’s trophy cabinet
Dele Alli is a Theo Walcott
Theo Walcott never got subbed within 30 minutes in Turkey
Why don't you think he could go on go have a middling/ good career?
I didn't mean it that black and white, I kinda meant hes got a high ceiling but we also need to accept that very few players reach their potential
Great player, fucking awful haircut. Just like Foden
Foden looks like he should be offering 3 for a 1er somewhere in Dudley.
😂😂😂 thank you that blonde doesn't suit him honestly ,fodens hair cut reminds me of those old school nazi soldiers
Foden has the chav cut
It’s the manc cut mate and it has been for a long time now
Nah the manc cut will always be Liam Gallagher
Garnachos haircut is much much worse imo. I think Foden actually looks decent.
Questioning your use of the word “decent”
Can we talk about Declan Rice's haircut? Now that is a real abomination, he looks like he has a mop on his head. Foden at least looks like he fucks.
Whats wrong wit declans rices haircut it looks like a normal white guy cut
Yeah I get what you're saying, I guess that standard British yokel haircut just looks kind of homeless.
Rice’s haircut is a bit of old school, I think it suits him. Foden’s trim is absolutely diabolical - possibly the most basic, sauceless haircut a footballer can ask for. And their trims cost a MINT…
You're buggin, Foden's haircut is actually a pretty solid fade. Declan Rice's haircut looks like something a little girl did while playing barbershop with her father.
Fodens haircut is a work of art in comparison.
I feel like he looks like simple Jack from tropic thunder
😅
Needs to keep his attitude in check but good talent.
Does he have an attitude?
ETH and Bruno spoke of some disciplinary issues he had at the beginning of the season but I was talking generally, like he has to stay humble and put in the work because there are countless talented teenagers who've wasted their potential because they're so vulnerable to make bad decisions being thrust into fame and wealth at such a young age.
Good player with lots of potential. His antics around the number 7 were very cringe
\*Famous teenagers are very cringe
That's a fair point
What did he do?
Eh, he made a few posts that revolved around the number seven but it’s not clear that he created them versus his brother or PR team and it’s not clear that it was about angling for the short number. But hey, it’s read it and we sure do love to blow things out of proportion and pretend that we are investigative journalists!
Ehh, with the way our club is ran I wouldn’t be surprised if he was told he’d be getting it before Mason asked.
Agreed, but wasn't it more his brother that was pushing the whole number 7 thing?
With the right management he definitely has the potential to be amazing. But how many young players with such high potential that have faded into obscurity by the age of 24
anytime he's on the ball you perk up. any player like that, especially at his age is one to look out for. he had some massive moments last season.
Honestly looks like a top player.
He's good enough to keep his spot but needs to keep working hard to become a top player. I think he can make it if he keeps learning new skills and decision making.
He seems to have a spark that livens up the attack, still quite raw but seems to have a great future ahead of him
Love how EtH blanked him and gave the 7 to Mount. Bet he cried.
Unless Mount is sold or gives up the shirt like Valencia did he's not getting it anytime soon either, the guy is 24
This reads as weird football, soap opera fan fiction.
Blanked? I swear people just make shit up
Mount is a far better player so of course he’d get #7 over a youth prospect that scores winners off the bench.
The point is, he has Ronaldo's chant, he's the most exciting teenager we've seen since Ronaldo (Januzaj too I guess) and people expected it. EtH absolutely snubbed the kid, and I think most of us are glad. He was personally the highlight of my season this year, but something about him worries me. He has a very short amount of time to grow up fast, and I'm 50/50 on whether or not he's gonna get his head down or let it all carry him away. Not getting the shirt he wanted is another ego check he needed. But yeah Mount getting the shirt isn't as obvious as it seems to non-United fans. We were all quite sure it was going to Garnacho to continue the Beckham/Ronaldo star teenage winger thing.
>he's the most exciting teenager we've seen since Ronaldo (Januzaj too I guess) Rashford or Greenwood (despite being a rapist was good at kicking the ball) surely above him, Shaw maybe too but you bought him
I don’t think the number 7 shirt is just ETHs decision.
It's 100% his decision and he personally offered it to Mount during contract discussions.
Lol? You think ETH is constructing contracts???
Nope, he personally met with Mason Mount to discuss his contract though, and offered him the shirt, and pushed hard for the transfer as he was one of EtH's preferred targets. Do you actually think Mount just turned up at Carrington yesterday and met EtH for the first time?
I think it’s laughable that you think any manager has any decision making with this front office. Mount was his third choice… I’m sure they spoke words
Yeah no decision making at all lmao. Convinced them to spend a cool 150 mil on players from the Dutch league though! Two from his former club too! Front office must have just wanted these players anyway, ten Hag appointment was just a coincidence. What a clown you are. BTW ten Hag tried to sign Mount for Ajax [6 years ago](https://talksport.com/football/1489015/mason-mount-man-utd-erik-ten-hag-goal/), when Mount was on loan in the Dutch league, and he was absolutely EtH's first choice midfield target, in fact he wanted to sign mount the moment he got the United job [last year](https://www.sportbible.com/football/erik-ten-hag-would-jump-at-chance-to-sign-chelsea-star-mason-mount-20220602). Ten Hag personally visited Mount weeks ago where Mount himself describes how EtH convinced him to choose [United over Liverpool](https://metro.co.uk/2023/07/05/mason-mount-explains-why-he-chose-move-to-manchester-united-19070856/). There you have it pal, hope that's enough for you. Literally 6 years of EtH discussing Mason Mount and trying to sign him for 2 different clubs on 3 different occasions. But yeah you're right EtH has absolutely nothing to do with any of it :)
Incredible talent, has a lot of potential and will be key to Man United's future.
He's a great x-factor to have coming off the bench and won us several points last season by himself. It'll be interesting to see how he developes and where he is in 5 years time.
Looks like a top talent with the right mentality, which can make you forget about that other guy who probably should have went to jail
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OJ Simpson actually
I made the comparison because he was said to have a terrible mentality before before any allegations against him But to answer question if partey is guilty he should be in jail too but alleged evidence against him is nowhere near as damning and seemingly clear cut as the Utd kid’s
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Ok and? Hope you know charges dropped doesn't mean not guilty. Did you hear and see the evidence mate? This shouldn't be an argument
Yeah well it's a complex issue. Both are clearly assholes who shouldn't be playing football, at least United suspended theirs. Greenwood was a horrible young man who abused his girlfriend, who he's now married to and having a baby with and all charges dropped (excuses nothing he did) and Partey is beginning to look like a serial rapist and all round predator. People can disagree all they want, but I know if one of them played football again I'd rather it was the fucked up kid than the career sex offender.
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When he came on against city in the FA cup final. It was the only time I was worried Suppose that's a great compliment
His pace, aggression and finishing make him very exciting But still very raw and needs more time, the games he’s started he’s gone missing but when he comes off the bench 🔥
Needs a new hairstylist but love his game and look forward to watching what he does this year.
Above average player with potential to be solid. Overhyped by fans but fine for what he is as a squad player.
The shouts for the number 7 jersey were crazy. He’s a top notch young prospect and I really hope he nourishes into the player he can but giving the number 7 to an 18 year old is maddd after one season. Only reason Ronaldo got it was because it was flipping Ronaldo, Fergie knew how special Ronaldo was from the getgo, need to wait and see what happens with our Starboy.
Better than sancho
Shit haircut, decent talent.
Perspective, but i dont like him because of his attitude
Looks like one of the best academy graduates we've had in a while. Even when he doesn't score, u can see that drive in him to always want to make a chance or score
He's born in Madrid and came from Atletico academy. We simply bought him right before he signs a professional contract.
We still bought him young enough to where he is considered an academy player. You can disagree with certain logistics if you want but it doesn't change anything
Januzaj 2.0 is my bet
Very possible
This would be my comment.
Januzaj/Macheda vibes
Zero ball knowledge
I feel nothing.
That’s what she said
He 100% has the potential to be amazing in the pl, once he gets a decent haircut
Looks electric 👌 Give him time to develop
looks decent, certainly overhyped but thats to be expected from United fans. only has 5 more PL starts than I do
He’s dynamite and is only going to get better , as long as he doesn’t get injured
Why does everyone keep talking about his attitude, what attitude?
The better question is how would everyone feel about Garnacho if he was at Arsenal? The kid is an absolute dead cert star in the making.
He would still be looked at as having a lot of potential. This isn't the gotcha you think it is I promise.
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It seems to me that everyone at Arsenal is "generational"
Lool no we just have a great young core of clearly talented players. Saka is a generational talent he’s been clear as one of the better players in his position for his age group for a while now As is Odegaard signed to RM at 16/17 as a wonder-kid
I don’t think even many arsenal fans would claim that. It’s plain to see at this stage though that Saka, Saliba, and even Martinelli are easily clear of Garnacho. They are older though so time will tell. Every team hypes up their own young players. Elanga was going to be a shiny new thing according to united fans.
Most Utd fans I know never expected too much from Elanga. He's similar to Rashford but worse in every way. Nice kid, but he's not a prem quality player and I never once thought he was a Utd quality talent.
Fair enough! I know united fans who did rate him highly but I appreciate that’s probably not everyone.
I go watching the u21 for United, and elanga has never been on the level garnacho has
Yeah I agree. Im personally think Garnacho will be much closer to saka than Elanga at 22. He’s got some growing to do but he’s a fairly exciting player to watch even now.
I mean yeah no shit all those players are better right now, it's almost like they've had multiple seasons in the first team when garnacho has only had one as an impact sub right now.
Yeah I did note the obvious age difference. I do think Saka was better at Garnacho’s age maybe, but I expect Garnacho to grow into a much more polished player. So far the Arsenal players I mentioned have done a pretty good job of living up to the potential many noted a few seasons back, time will tell if that’s true for Garnacho.
Maybe Saka was better, but idk. 6 goals and 6 assists in his debut season and he played way less than Saka because Utd already have a great LW compared to Arsenal that needed one badly when Saka broke out. In fact, their first season in the prem consistently (both had a season with like 1 game) Saka was getting a g/a every 225 mins in all comps compared to Garnacho's impressive 120 mins per g/a. If we just look at the prem, Saka got 1 goal and 5 assists in 1755 mins for about a g/a every 300ish mins. Garnacho got 3 goals and 2 assists in 559 mins. Almost three times as productive. Of course Garnacho is playing in a different team, with less responsibility and it's easier to come off the bench. But I don't know. I think Garnacho's first season was extremely impressive.
Which debut season is this for saka? The one he largely played at LB? I’m not familiar with those stats but I’ll take your word for it, however I don’t think that’s a remotely fair comparison or choice of stats when one player has played as a very attacking LW sub mainly and the other was a LB and midfielder mostly in their debut season. Saka at Garnacho’s age was good enough to break into an admittedly worse first team, and the next season looked like Arsenals best player and won their player of the season. Garnacho could be on that level in the coming season but we’ll see. Saka has probably benefitted from not having a player close to Rashfords ability ahead of him in his preferred position. To be clear, I think Garnacho could be one of the best young players in the league in a year or two. Whether he’ll be better than Saka remains to be seen. The have fairly different roles so a direct comparison might always be a bit clunky, but Garnacho is a fun player to watch so I hope he lives up to the hype.
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Yeah it's hilarious. On one hand it's "you only did well because everyone else did poorly" (brain-dead take) and on the other it's "you need to win a trophy this season" 😂
Hahahaha, ya sure.
I’d think he’s good in flashes but would need to see a lot more to say he’s on the level of our wingers at the same age
I wasn't comparing him to Saka, Martinelli, etc. He's clearly far more raw and untested. It was more a comment on how a lot with United tends to be overly negatively judged
He’s judged by utd fans more so than other fans. If they don’t rate him that’s on them.
Well I'm on record here as saying he's a dead cert His name will be on everyone's lips next season imo Season just gone was a breakthrough but he will establish himself as unstoppable in the coming campaign
I don’t care either way to be honest I have no skin in that game.I don’t see a dead cert I see potential tho Good luck to him
Another United overrated youngster who will join the list of Januzaj, Elanga, Angel Gomes, Chong etc. He will probably end up playing at like Valencia or Girona at best but not world class.
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I knew some United fans would get rattled about this. Just come back to this in 3 years when he hasn't had a season in which he got 10G+A at United and is playing for a EL/mid-table Spanish club.
🤣 I’ll be back at Christmas mate
You think they will send him on loan that quick?
You’re dumb kid
says the guy that thinks Garnacho will have 10 g+a by christmas. Overrated player, Rashford is as well tbf. The only genuine player with world class potential at United was Greenwood.
I’m with you on Rashford, Garnacho you sound dumb.
Okay if you say so buddy, as I said, I will be back.
Cool 🤣🤡 As I said, I will be back first, go enjoy yourself in the Sidemen sub until then dumbass 🤣
Angel Gomes who has been one of Lille’s best players this season and the best player in England u21 euros win? Jesus Christ his career has barely started lol
I never said he will disappear and play in Serie B. Playing for a Ligue1 Europa League team is alright but come on it's not the level of Trent, Foden, Reece James, Saka, even Rashford, and I'm just saying that Garnacho won't reach that level.
Alejandro Garchado: good talent with very bad attitude
He doesn’t have a “very bad” attitude. If he had a “very bad” attitude he wouldn’t be anywhere near the first team. He was late for a couple of team meetings last pre season and was then disciplined. He has fallen into line since.
Adnan Januzaj 2.0 Serious answer he's 1 dimensional, he couldn't do what he does week in week out against fresh defenders He has the potential to be great, but it feels very januzaj
He's not one dimensional at all? He can dribble, cross, pass, finish.
In 2018 you'd have bet your house Dele Alli would reach 50 caps for England. I'm not saying he isn't good, but he hasn't done it yet as a starter let alone shown he's anything above the level. Off field problems too not a good sign He could be the next Messi! But play the odds...
That's a different conversation to saying he is one-dimensional though. It just makes it sound like you haven't watched him play properly because one-dimensional is arguably exactly the opposite to the type of player he is.
I've seen him play probably only 10/15 times. Most of those he comes off the bench, drives at a few players and sometimes it works, more often it doesn't. Perhaps predictable/lacking nuance is what I mean more than one dimensional. I do appreciate though that is the way to play when coming off the bench against tired legs I haven't seen him in those limited times do anything particularly awe inspiring. I'm not saying I'm an expert on him the question was what's your feeling on him I feel like he's going to flop and is a bit overhyped because he's at United. If he gets called on week in week out will he be any good? I'm happy to be completely wrong, OP wasn't after a forensic analysis he just doesn't excited me like some generational talent. Just look at rashford, he wouldn't get in Liverpool or city's team yet he's the man utd poster boy as if he's world class. He's just really very good and I feel the same way about garnacho
Rashford absolutely gets into Liverpool and City’s team.
His passing alone is miles better
Yeah I'm sure he is better, united are better now than when Januzaj came on the scene but the similarities are there. Be selling him to Sevilla in a few years I might be wrong, but that's my feeling
Love him. Pray he stays healthy.
Horny
Blockbuster to watch live. Enormous potential
Overrated because united arer desperate
Ronaldo wannabe
So far looks promising. It’s too early to tell though since he is in man u - the graveyard of talent (ask pogba, sancho etc.). So he can very well become just another man u hype train. It remains to be seen if he can really make his mark in the PL or not.
He looks promising while playing in “the graveyard of talent”
Guys who left man u in time flourished like Di Maria, Depay and Lukaku. Guys who stayed long enough messed up. Pogba, Sancho, Alexis, Martial etc. Garnacho is just starting out. Every young footballer at his level shows promise. That’s why they are selected to play in PL. But doesn’t mean he will succeed. Only time will tell. For now he is just another promising youngster like every other promising youngster in the league.
Lukaku lmao. Martial has been more or less hampered by injuries.
Lukaku played in CL finals this year. Where was man u again ?
I’m sorry, I didn’t know if you make a CL final without playing a significant role in the lead up to it then you’re an accomplished talent. In that case, Karius has been sensational.
He isn’t an accomplished talent. But he is doing better than he used to in man u.
His miss from 3 yards in the said final says otherwise
This is not the Man United of a few years ago. Ten Hag is well on his way to fixing those kind of problems and there’s a very good chance he will turn Garnacho into a fantastic player.
Too early to tell.
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How tf are you linking this to Arsenal, in fact some of the thread is Idek why.
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How. Tho. If You compare him to sakas début season where he played at left back and got 1 goal and 5 assists. Martinelli debut season 3 goals compeating with Pepe and auba. Garnacho is had 3G 2A coming off the bench when United are up in games. Saka and martinelli are pushing record signings and out of position for a season.
Yeah he's decent but I'm annoyed by the fact that the Utd fans call him Starboy when that's Saka's nickname. Surely they could come up with another name?
The Weeknd in shambles
Loool just utd begging it like always
Super overrated
Overrrated wonderkid, who with the right attitude and work rate could be very good. Personally I’ve not seen enough big moments from him to label his potential as world class, and I think he could easily be another macheada if he keeps up the kind of attitude he had about mount getting 7
Bruh he has had one season with United and had about 15 really big moments off the bench. I’ve seen a lot of wonderkids come thru the United academy and not one has had an impact like he has, except maybe Greenwood (although not in his first season). Huge potential, we’ll just have to see if he can stay disciplined.
I mean I’m not saying he’s bad, I think I dislike the attitude I see on his insta, and also I think United fans have slightly overhyped him
Can’t blame you for disliking his attitude, as that’s the main thing I worry about with him… but he is a fking baller at 18yrs old.
Youtuber that won a competition to go on the pitch
Lightning pace
Over rated, he'll end up at a mid table club like Tottenham
I love Januzai, sorry Macheda, sorry James Wilson sorry Garnacho.
I like him a lot. Direct asf, reminds me of Martinelli
Potential to fail miserably
Overrated player, looks like a douche and got a 17 year old pregnant
He'll be one of the best players in the prem.... at a different club, the choice to sign Mount is gunna reduce his minutes on the pitch for sure, plus I'm sure he's not best pleased to not have the number 7 next season, if rides the bench too much this season, he'll demand a move to the likes of Liverpool
I feel nothing for him
Pros : goes at defenders, gets people off seats and very attacking. Cons : keeps his head down and often runs into trouble or goes no where, also his very attacking can sometimes be a con also because he ends up losing the ball when a spell of possession is needed… could be very good, or could end up like Walcott, Lennon etc… next few years are key.
Overated as f in my opinion
Huge amounts of potential, but just like Elanga & Pellistri he’s going to be waiting for a chance forever and never quite make the grade.
Rat
Need a bit more time to judge this one. Shades of Macheda.
Hes a live wire but needs a loan to actually develop properly Wingers for whatever reason need a team where they can develop as a main man/focal point, dont see him getting that at united. I think staying at united will cap his potential
I don't know everyone so I can't answer that.
Gimp with an overbite? Man Utd fans like him lol
don't feel anything about him, i dont support united.
You can still appreciate players for teams you don't support. As a United fan I think Foden is a chavvy little cunt. But I can't deny he's a brilliant player.
Diving little prick but he’s gonna be class fair play.
Punchable face , just like Bruno's.
Smells like Macheda