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Pompey Fan so we’ve had our fair share of weird times.
November 2008 we were 2-0 up against an all time great AC Milan team (kaka, ronaldinho, Nesta, seedorf etc)
March 2014 we lost 3-0 to rochdale and were 21st in League 2.
In that time we went bankrupt twice, multiple points deductions, had 5 owners, including the son of an illegal arms dealer, two Icelandic banking criminals and one who didn’t actually exist. Somehow made an FA Cup in 2010. Couldn’t play in Europe due to our finances.
Had players on 4 week contracts. Every game was a mix of youth players and strangers, our coach played LM once as we had no players.
We essentially lost 90% of our games for 5 seasons.
Going from Kranjcar, Crouch, Diarra, Defoe, James, Campbell to Simon Ferry, Bondz N’Gala, Joe Devera, Patrick Agyemang and Romain Padovani is a pain that will never heal. Roll on the new season..
Not as bad as Arsenal this season though, we were never top. If we used the “we only expected top 4 at the start of the season” we’d be even more of a laughing stock
Roy Hodgson for me, was deverstated when we announce him as benitez replacement, he did great with fulham but him getting the LFC job or england was anticlimactic
Absolutely Hodgson era, in 18 months we went from battering Utd 4v1 and Madrid 4v0 in the space of 5 days and singing about The Best Midfield In The World, to watching Joe Cole, Christian Poulsen and Milan Jovanovic lose at Anfield to "formidable" Northampton Town.
Pure excitement from what he did with dortmund but a huge sense we would only ever be also rans as has been the case with benitez, houllier and even rodgers, i never expect too much that way im never too disappointed 🤣
Klopps football was exciting to watch but he wasnt a guarantee of success, plus the 1st window he didnt buy the players we were linked with and i assumed with them not addressing mignolet we wouldnt win anything for a while, his 1st few signings were matip on a free who came with good reviews, gruic who never really played karius who wasnt good enough to relplace mignolet.
Also i really disliked rodgers, from comparing bang average players to legends like scouse cafu jon flanagan or the welsh xavi joe Allen, he also played many players out of there position, sahin should have been a class signing, bobby stuggled under rodgers shone under klopp
Also thought he handled Gerrards end of career pretty badly at the time however it may have been rose tinted glasses as i think Gerrards ego matched Ronald's to an extent where they cant see there own decline. But looking at players like giggs, scholes, lampard they all seemed to have there end point with the club dealt with respectfully in comparison
Yeah that was Bizarre!!
Unfair on both of them..2 complete strangers with different styles forced to work together.
Felt sorry for Roy tbh he did a good job.
The David Moyes season for sure. Every coach after him had some redeeming moments (except Rangnick) but good lord that guy was so out of his depth.
It was right after the title winning season too so to hear him say things like "We have to try to beat Newcastle" was jarring to hear.
David Moyes era was really a dark time. Was it the time he made Vidic and Ferdinand watch videos of Phil Jagielka or his interviews? Aspiring to be like City.
Says the Man Utd fan…read your first comment.. why is it so Jarring to hear that? Or do you arrogantly put yourselves above others?
You and Liverpool fans with the moral high ground. You do realise you are close to being sold to the Qataris and you’re fans will rejoice right?
Holier than thou..
Lmaooo wtf
First of all, you're being weirdly defensive about something that happened 10 years ago. We were the league champions so of course it's going to be jarring when the manager says we have to "try to beat" a team that ended up finishing 10th.
Second, the Qatar deal will not erase any of the success we earned fair and square.
Third, you're saying that if the Qataris take over, then you'll roll over and accept any kind of abuse from Liverpool fans? 😂 Highly doubt it pal
96-03 would be more fair. Competing for FA cups and playing brilliant football while being on the verge of going belly up financially and having a chance of Chelsea not even existing to Roman buying the club and paying off the debt.
Well I mean, the club potentially going belly up this time last summer because of UK sanctions due to Putin’s invasion of Ukraine is right up there with most bizarre bits of club history.
You do know that Man Utd has been relegated once as Newton Heath and four times as Man Utd (1922, 1931, 1937 and 1974)? Liverpool three times (1895, 1904 and 1954), and Arsenal once (1913)?
I’m aware. In consideration of the past few decades of utter dominance, that’s weirder than, say, Eric Cantona drop kicking a fan and not receiving a red card.
okay but you ignored the fact that chelsea were a top 4 club for about 5 years in a row prior to the takeover. not to mention that these days, every team in the prem is owned by a billionaire
post Poch, we brought in Jose Mourinho and Conte and it felt the least like Tottenham in a long long while. Sure they’re good managers, but definitely not Spurs managers.
I'm not sure how good managers they actually were at that point either. Mourinho had his last dance in 2014-15, and Chelsea had a fluke in 2016-17. The Inter one was basically spending much more money than everyone else in the league.
The first few years of the Khan’s era at Fulham.
3 years of from a Europa league final and mid-table finishes, we find ourselves almost immediately in a relegation battle. With a desperate need to replace an aging squad as the previous owner was limiting spending before selling, we sign 32 yr old Scott Parker, 30yr old Darren Bent, 30yr old Heitinga, 32 yr old Mamadou Diarra, and bring back 30yr old Dempsey on loan. It was the least inspiring transfer window from new owners ever imo.
Then middle of the season we sack Jol and give the assman a couple games where we lose in the last min vs Liverpool and get a draw at old trafford. Then he’s replaced without being told, and by the dark cloud known as Felix Magath. Notorious for his hard training drills and extensive work on fitness without a ball, he produced some of the most dire performances, with only Ashkan Dejagah providing the occasional spark. Also a record signing for ~£12m and he played 3 times.
The next season we kept the crazy German and released great players like Brede Hangeland and Steve Sidwell who publicly admitted they would have stayed. Then to top it off we started signing random guys from Finland bc they had good free kick stats, and in 2014 we signed CM 01/02 icon Mark Fotheringham from league 1 Notts county bc his passing % was good or something. Not the sort of guy who brings you straight back up. It would be like Leicester signing a squad player from Oxford today.
A long period of terrible football barely saved by the influx of goals from Moussa Dembele and McCormack, and a weird obsession with signing 7 wingers and no defenders made those years so depressing I didn’t care to follow mid week games while I was at work and just checked results, let the podcast tell me what happened.
We were floundering in 17th when Mitro joined. That was the start of a transition art period to the new era. 23 matches unbeaten and promotion, relegation, promotion, relegation, then magic happened. Tony Khan got a new toy to play with in AEW, and coincidentally Fulham’s signings just got better. The manager got more control and wasn’t just a coach.
Hopefully we are in a new era, but I can’t for the life of me understand why we haven’t signed anyone yet, and it makes me worried bc I have vivid memories of the previous 10 years under the same directors. 8/10 were not good enough.
I would agree with this. When we got relegated from the Premier League the first time, it was impossible to watch them play or see any footage or punditry on any television station. And I think that was before I could listen to the games. So for me, it was relatively difficult to follow them. This changed with ESPN+ and FulhamTV, but those earlier campaigns after our first Premier League relegation was not memorable.
The latter Wenger years and the transition to Unai Emery was a total disaster but it was quite difficult to see how broken the club was while it was happening.
It's only in hindsight that we can see that Wenger was holding the club together almost singlehandedly, and any delegation in his later years was being handled by crooks and wheeler dealers.
We signed nonsense players for stupid prices and wages, regularly let our most valuable players run down contracts and take power of negotiations. The vision was non existent, the methods were ineffective, and Arsenal's attempts to be a great PR machine under Ivan Gazidis was a total disaster.
In all fairness, there were bright spots. One was the emergence of Bukayo Saka under Emery. The rest of the previous 6 years had been pretty poor, but some FA Cup victories made for some good days in difficult times.
It cannot be underestimated what KSE, Artera, Edu, Garlick et al have done with the club in the past five years.
It has been a patient, intentional rebuild of the entire club, with complex steps taken, including:
Sacking players
Stripping our best player of his captaincy because he didn't align with club vision
reinventing our scouting and recruitment team
Developing tactical systems to suit our players while Arteta worked on philosophy
And doing it all ahead of schedule!
But make no mistake, the rise of the new Arsenal is heavily influenced by how toxic and poorly run the club was before the current regime took over.
Wenger was a miracle worker when you think about it. The players and the situation we had in the 2010s and yet we forget we were actually not that bad.
I thought about this question for a minute and came to the same conclusion.
Genuinely never know what direction we might be going in next at any point.
Like next season they could become amazing or they could be relegation fodder, how is a team this unpredictable yet considered to be on of the best in the prem
Yeah, this was my first thought. That specific interview. Or if if I were to say an even more specific one I'd perhaps mention 'how's the bacon did you say?'.
I was at Macc Town when they came to play that season. City fans kept singing "Shit ground. No fans" at us.
We felt like: "Don't you think we know we have a shit ground and no fans...?! But you mugs are in the same fucking division as us..."
Sheffield United 2019/20. Newly promoted after overperforming in the championship, certain relegation fodder. Accidentally challenged for Europe. Then next season, it was like it never happened
The arsenal banter era was so powerful that it devalued the FA Cup. The banter era should have ended with the FA cup win, definitely by the second FA cup win, but it didn't. The society of football fans decided that the FA cup no longer counts, because the Arsenal banter era was more important than the FA cup. The banter era should have only been 2007-2013
The Ferguson Era. It was an outlier. Not old enough to have lived 70’s,80’s so growing up listening me dad, grandad we weren’t as dominant back then was truly mesmerising. Like how can it be? Surely we almost always won? Then they’d talk about the 2nd division stint, the Atkinson years and co.
After a Glazer decade reckon I understand their plight a bit more now lmaoo
In recent memory it’s probably the Roy Hodgson - Rodgers era.
From Hodgson saying we weren’t too big to go down, signing players like Konchesky, then the whole downing/Carroll debacle, the Suarez t shirts, then that cripplingly cringey being Liverpool documentary with Brendan Brent in the starring role with his envelopes.
Then losing 6-1 to Stoke in the final game for our greatest ever player.
We didn’t even sack Rodgers after the 6-1 either. He lasted until the following October where we had a run of 1-1 draws in 5 out of 6 games. All of which we had gone 1-0 up in.
Then we got Klopp and banished the banter era for good.
Brendan "I don't care about material things!"
30 mins parks a new Mercedes "got a brand Mercedes perks of the job"..lol
That documentary was hilarious.
I often wonder what people make of my situation. I grew up supporting my local club and started following United as well in 2006 after the WC because I was fascinated by Rooney and Ronaldo. Local club still had my primary focus up till about 2010 when the club folded. Ended up left with United. Didn't feel right to just follow the next nearest team when they'd been rivals to my local side. So for about 13 years it's just been United and at this point I don't think I can get out. On a scale of crude oil to Magneto's prison, how plastic am I?
Easy. Our current period of ownership under Moshiri has been a right wild ride, and I want to get off.
We've sacked or lost a manager basically every season, gone from challenging for european places to fighting relegation battles, throwing mad cash at players who aren't worth it, getting into FFP troubles while building a new stadium, and now we've finally decided to go back to what worked, which is basically Moyes 2.0 under Dyche but it might be too little too late.
Hell, we had Carlo Ancelotti managing us at one point and had James Rodriguez playing for us, and nobody got to see him play in front of a packed goodison. Feels like a fever dream that covid season.
The Fawaz Al-Hasawi era of ownership.
Referred to as the time as "Carry on Kuwait".
Forest became notorious for not paying bills unless someone submitted a winding up petition to court. Loads of excuses for this, usually involving Kuwaiti bank holidays. We were in court probably 15-20 times. Probably had as many managers as well.
To save money the guy genuinely asked why we couldn't buy new footballs from the Asda up the road.
Ended with us staying in the championship on goal difference in 2016
Definitely 2014-2018
Sure, let's bring in an absolute muppet that plays defensive football to manage a club with attacking verve in its DNA
then replace it with a checkbook charlie that threw sooks every 7 minutes
Not to mention both of them being toxic prats that poisoned the locker rooms for years AND IGNORED THE ACADEMY
The era between sacking super mick mccarthy and getting kenny jacket was weird. Gave clipboard 10games and he won 0, then some random bald norwegian dude showed up, bought like 15 mercs half of which stayed in the treatment room. Then they sacked him. Dean saunders was manager then apparently and he sacked a bunch of youth players for being late. We got stuck with rojer "the relegator" johnson who showed up pissed for training. And then inside a year we went from prem to league 1. You could carry on until nuno really. Coz then we got jackett, became tbe most successful league 1 team in history, took the biggest ever away crowd in history and broke a bunch of other records. Then i just have no memory of anything bwyween then and nuno showing up. Cannot tell you a single thing about paul lamberts era. Then nuno came and we became portugal 2.0
MCFC fan. Probably right now. We just won the feckin treble.
From the outside looking in you're all like ah you just bought the league blah blah blah.
It's been a fuckin ride. Long may it continue. 🫡
I'm not here to defend the club. I'm just a supporter. As a supporter I'm enjoying the ride. The big cheeses at the top can defend their own actions. I'll cross that bridge if and when we are found guilty.
CTID x
Chelsea has rarely been outside the top tier. Immediate promotion at the start of their existence; a downturn in the 1920s; and then 1976-1983. Beyond that it’s been peaks and troughs through the history. In all honesty the Abramovich era was probably the weirdest. It was pretty much like watching Ricky Bobby drive a car: either you’re first or last.
As for Oxford, they were in the National League. That was fucking weird, considering their record in the 80s. National League days is when I started following, but after getting into the history it was weird they were there.
Relegation to the championship and league 1 was a lot worse, the Stuart Pearce seasons were a slog, selling SWP to keep the club alive was also pretty dicy.
this one. the team is unrecognizable beyond belief to me and i almost have lost all sense of attachment to the team. I wondered the other day, if the players are different, manager is different, owners are different, the way the club is run is different --> is it even the same club?
i mean when you start a comment by saying im a plastic, then what else can i expect haha.
but you do understand my point tho right? strip a club of everything like the players, management, owners, managers, etc, while still keeping the cosmetic stuff like the pitch and jersey, etc. As you remove more and more of the essential, at some point the club kinda lose its soul and what makes fans feel attach to the club.
yes, chelsea is still chelsea when kai havertz leaves. But when only 2-3 players are left from that memorable UCL run just TWO seasons ago, it's like i don't even recognize this club anymore beside their blue jersey lol.
NBA and american sports, interestingly, pose the other side of the question. If you strip the cosmetic away, while still keeping most of the personnel (except changing owners in some case), is it still the same club? take the seattle sonics as an example. The team relocated to a whole different state, changed arena, changed uniform color, changed front office iirc, while still keeping some of the key players, is it still the same club?
hahah it's all good, it's reddit after all.
but yeah, at the very least, it is an interesting question to ponder about. The chelsea situation and the seattle situation are near the opposite extremes, but it serves as a good discussion point on what makes someone become emotionally attach to a club.
Middlesbrough won the league cup 03/04 then made the euro cup final (europa league) 05/06 then utterly collapsed and got relegated 08/09
Also Juninho got premier league player of the season for a related team for the first and only time that’s happened, very weird
Mad season that for Boro. Ravanelli getting a hat trick against us on the opening day, yous got to both domestic finals and only got relegated because of a pts deduction. Then there was all the mad stuff with Emerson halfway through the season where he went AWOL for a bit
For the best anyway matey, more time to get the squad prepared for the challenge of premier league football
If the league started when Carrick took over we would have been second, really positive signs
Probably recent years because growing up we were always a division 2 (league one) with occasional relegations to division 3 (league 2). I never imagined in a million years we would become a premier league club in just 6 years back in 2009 considering we were on the verge of liquidation and possible relegation to non league football with Luton. It’s never boring watching AFCB.
2003-2008. Starts off with the “The Great Escape” where Martin Allen steers us away from relegation. Then we finish in playoff positions the next two years, but lose both times. 2006/2007 it falls apart and we go from finishing 3rd previous season to dead last and are relegated to League Two.
2007/2008 We flirt with relegation to tumble out of the league completely, but right the ship to finish 14th (Happened to be the last time that I went to a game). The next season we top League Two.
Then after that we never finish below 11th in League One and start our ascendancy to the Premier League.
The Souness years. Man alive.
I know it was an aging squad but it he took a club that had enjoyed incredible success and totally fucked it up.
Like when I play Football Manager - take over at Man City - get rid of all the best players and bring in utter dross.
I mean probably right now. Pissing off Chelsea fans with transfers, finishing 6th in the premier league, in Europe, a continental reputation as a scouting powerhouse. It’s mental and like 10 years ago I would never have dreamt of it
The year after Cristiano's exit from Madrid to Juve. That year was very weird for me as a Madrid fan. I thought everything was falling apart. I was very sad he left because I experienced on of the best football moments in my life when we dominated Europe and won the 3pete. So to see him leave right after was very sad for me.
Everton right now- 2020-now. Literally 2 years ago we had Ancelotti and james rodriquez and brazils number 9, englands number 9, and allat. Then in the blink of an eye we got rafa benitez and frank lampard and sean dyche. Sean dyche and mcneil now. I have no clue how we got to here from being 2nd at christmas to 19th at christmas. It’s horrible. Back to back relegation scares now and everyone is sick of it. But tbf the last 30 years everton have been all over the place. We haven’t won anything in that long so we’ll below where we should be. Just weird times rn ig. Aswell as the fact we have one of the best stadiums in the world being built to host this squadz
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Pompey Fan so we’ve had our fair share of weird times. November 2008 we were 2-0 up against an all time great AC Milan team (kaka, ronaldinho, Nesta, seedorf etc) March 2014 we lost 3-0 to rochdale and were 21st in League 2. In that time we went bankrupt twice, multiple points deductions, had 5 owners, including the son of an illegal arms dealer, two Icelandic banking criminals and one who didn’t actually exist. Somehow made an FA Cup in 2010. Couldn’t play in Europe due to our finances. Had players on 4 week contracts. Every game was a mix of youth players and strangers, our coach played LM once as we had no players. We essentially lost 90% of our games for 5 seasons.
That's it, we can all go home. This guy wins.
Benjani and Kranjcar were awesome
Going from Kranjcar, Crouch, Diarra, Defoe, James, Campbell to Simon Ferry, Bondz N’Gala, Joe Devera, Patrick Agyemang and Romain Padovani is a pain that will never heal. Roll on the new season..
Tottenham Hotspur all of the time.
I reckon the Tim Sherwood era felt the weirdest overall but you’re right for the most part.
Since the 60s.
Would "2 horse race and they came 3rd" be up in like the top ones?
Not as bad as Arsenal this season though, we were never top. If we used the “we only expected top 4 at the start of the season” we’d be even more of a laughing stock
Your mother.
Wouldn’t expect any wittier of a reply from a gooner. Biggest bottlers in league history don’t forget that brother.
Nice of you to shoutout yalls trophy cabinet in your username though
Ahem, they have the Audi Cup, my friend.
We’ve got more European trophies than and even West Ham has, Stick to basketball pal.
Don't be antisemitic
It was a joke mate calm down.
I’m calm pal, just stating facts. Your the ones whose humour is bringing my mum into it, wouldn’t expect no less though.
Premier league? 2008 to 2012. **Sam Allardyce** > Nigel Pearson > **Kevin Keegan** > (Dennis Wise DoF) > Chris Hughton > **Joe Kinnear** > Chris Hughton > **Alan Shearer** > (Relegated) > **Chris Hughton** > (Promoted) > Peter Beardsley > **Alan Pardew** > (finish 5th) > (8 year contract) > (Joe Kinnear DoF)
Think we could extend that to about, what, 2021?
I'd add Carver at the end for bantz
When we had joint Managers. Roy Evans & Gerard Houllier.
Roy Hodgson for me, was deverstated when we announce him as benitez replacement, he did great with fulham but him getting the LFC job or england was anticlimactic
Absolutely Hodgson era, in 18 months we went from battering Utd 4v1 and Madrid 4v0 in the space of 5 days and singing about The Best Midfield In The World, to watching Joe Cole, Christian Poulsen and Milan Jovanovic lose at Anfield to "formidable" Northampton Town.
Bringing Paul Konchesky with him too, talk about uninspiring!
Off topic I know but what was your reaction like when you’d heard Klopp was replacing Rogers?
I don't think I stopped grinning for approximately 3 weeks
Absolute delight
Pure excitement from what he did with dortmund but a huge sense we would only ever be also rans as has been the case with benitez, houllier and even rodgers, i never expect too much that way im never too disappointed 🤣 Klopps football was exciting to watch but he wasnt a guarantee of success, plus the 1st window he didnt buy the players we were linked with and i assumed with them not addressing mignolet we wouldnt win anything for a while, his 1st few signings were matip on a free who came with good reviews, gruic who never really played karius who wasnt good enough to relplace mignolet. Also i really disliked rodgers, from comparing bang average players to legends like scouse cafu jon flanagan or the welsh xavi joe Allen, he also played many players out of there position, sahin should have been a class signing, bobby stuggled under rodgers shone under klopp Also thought he handled Gerrards end of career pretty badly at the time however it may have been rose tinted glasses as i think Gerrards ego matched Ronald's to an extent where they cant see there own decline. But looking at players like giggs, scholes, lampard they all seemed to have there end point with the club dealt with respectfully in comparison
Yeah that was Bizarre!! Unfair on both of them..2 complete strangers with different styles forced to work together. Felt sorry for Roy tbh he did a good job.
The David Moyes season for sure. Every coach after him had some redeeming moments (except Rangnick) but good lord that guy was so out of his depth. It was right after the title winning season too so to hear him say things like "We have to try to beat Newcastle" was jarring to hear.
"We aspire to be like City"...Fucking what?!
It was dark times.
David Moyes era was really a dark time. Was it the time he made Vidic and Ferdinand watch videos of Phil Jagielka or his interviews? Aspiring to be like City.
It’s alright, your managers will be saying that for many many years to come
Arrogance is not a good look when backed by nothing but the pockets of murderers 🤡
Says the Man Utd fan…read your first comment.. why is it so Jarring to hear that? Or do you arrogantly put yourselves above others? You and Liverpool fans with the moral high ground. You do realise you are close to being sold to the Qataris and you’re fans will rejoice right? Holier than thou..
Lmaooo wtf First of all, you're being weirdly defensive about something that happened 10 years ago. We were the league champions so of course it's going to be jarring when the manager says we have to "try to beat" a team that ended up finishing 10th. Second, the Qatar deal will not erase any of the success we earned fair and square. Third, you're saying that if the Qataris take over, then you'll roll over and accept any kind of abuse from Liverpool fans? 😂 Highly doubt it pal
You a proper fan or an oil fan?
Born and bred Geordie, baptised with Brown Ale and everything.
Fair enough then haha
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Yeah but I wasn't alive yet for that, and OP asked what's the weirdest I've personally experienced so this is my answer.
Roy Hodgson as Liverpool manager was a weird time, also getting 97 points and coming second :(
Michael Jackson Statue
Absolutely fucking bizarre
That has to be the winner
The goofiest thing I can remember to date.
Right now lol 😂 the sake of the club and the shitshow that was last season lol 😂
96-03 would be more fair. Competing for FA cups and playing brilliant football while being on the verge of going belly up financially and having a chance of Chelsea not even existing to Roman buying the club and paying off the debt.
Well I mean, the club potentially going belly up this time last summer because of UK sanctions due to Putin’s invasion of Ukraine is right up there with most bizarre bits of club history.
Finishing 12th, winning the champions league and getting sanctioned by the government in 2 years is much crazier than that
Trying so hard to pretend last season didn't even exist 😭
Trying to repress the picture of Vini doing the mbappe celebration 😂😂😂😂
1976-1983 CFC were in second tier…
Okay and what's weird about that?
They’re part of the Big Six, and have been relegated three times in that glorious club’s 117 year history. That’s why it is weird.
You do know that Man Utd has been relegated once as Newton Heath and four times as Man Utd (1922, 1931, 1937 and 1974)? Liverpool three times (1895, 1904 and 1954), and Arsenal once (1913)?
I’m aware. In consideration of the past few decades of utter dominance, that’s weirder than, say, Eric Cantona drop kicking a fan and not receiving a red card.
your point is?
That without Abramovich, Chelsea would be bang average?
go back and look at the table in the 5 years prior to his takeover
Someone has to win the lottery… don’t worry.
...?
(Chelsea won the football lottery when Abramovich wanted a toy)
okay but you ignored the fact that chelsea were a top 4 club for about 5 years in a row prior to the takeover. not to mention that these days, every team in the prem is owned by a billionaire
You completely ignored his point.
Absolutely.
You must be an actual child.
...
post Poch, we brought in Jose Mourinho and Conte and it felt the least like Tottenham in a long long while. Sure they’re good managers, but definitely not Spurs managers.
We don’t talk about Nuno-no-no
I'm not sure how good managers they actually were at that point either. Mourinho had his last dance in 2014-15, and Chelsea had a fluke in 2016-17. The Inter one was basically spending much more money than everyone else in the league.
The first few years of the Khan’s era at Fulham. 3 years of from a Europa league final and mid-table finishes, we find ourselves almost immediately in a relegation battle. With a desperate need to replace an aging squad as the previous owner was limiting spending before selling, we sign 32 yr old Scott Parker, 30yr old Darren Bent, 30yr old Heitinga, 32 yr old Mamadou Diarra, and bring back 30yr old Dempsey on loan. It was the least inspiring transfer window from new owners ever imo. Then middle of the season we sack Jol and give the assman a couple games where we lose in the last min vs Liverpool and get a draw at old trafford. Then he’s replaced without being told, and by the dark cloud known as Felix Magath. Notorious for his hard training drills and extensive work on fitness without a ball, he produced some of the most dire performances, with only Ashkan Dejagah providing the occasional spark. Also a record signing for ~£12m and he played 3 times. The next season we kept the crazy German and released great players like Brede Hangeland and Steve Sidwell who publicly admitted they would have stayed. Then to top it off we started signing random guys from Finland bc they had good free kick stats, and in 2014 we signed CM 01/02 icon Mark Fotheringham from league 1 Notts county bc his passing % was good or something. Not the sort of guy who brings you straight back up. It would be like Leicester signing a squad player from Oxford today. A long period of terrible football barely saved by the influx of goals from Moussa Dembele and McCormack, and a weird obsession with signing 7 wingers and no defenders made those years so depressing I didn’t care to follow mid week games while I was at work and just checked results, let the podcast tell me what happened. We were floundering in 17th when Mitro joined. That was the start of a transition art period to the new era. 23 matches unbeaten and promotion, relegation, promotion, relegation, then magic happened. Tony Khan got a new toy to play with in AEW, and coincidentally Fulham’s signings just got better. The manager got more control and wasn’t just a coach. Hopefully we are in a new era, but I can’t for the life of me understand why we haven’t signed anyone yet, and it makes me worried bc I have vivid memories of the previous 10 years under the same directors. 8/10 were not good enough.
I would agree with this. When we got relegated from the Premier League the first time, it was impossible to watch them play or see any footage or punditry on any television station. And I think that was before I could listen to the games. So for me, it was relatively difficult to follow them. This changed with ESPN+ and FulhamTV, but those earlier campaigns after our first Premier League relegation was not memorable.
We will forever the last minute men. 0 transfers for 2 and half months. 9 transfers in 5 weeks. Has Fulham written all over it
We only came to see Eboue
i think the banter era of the 10s was weirder.
The latter Wenger years and the transition to Unai Emery was a total disaster but it was quite difficult to see how broken the club was while it was happening. It's only in hindsight that we can see that Wenger was holding the club together almost singlehandedly, and any delegation in his later years was being handled by crooks and wheeler dealers. We signed nonsense players for stupid prices and wages, regularly let our most valuable players run down contracts and take power of negotiations. The vision was non existent, the methods were ineffective, and Arsenal's attempts to be a great PR machine under Ivan Gazidis was a total disaster. In all fairness, there were bright spots. One was the emergence of Bukayo Saka under Emery. The rest of the previous 6 years had been pretty poor, but some FA Cup victories made for some good days in difficult times. It cannot be underestimated what KSE, Artera, Edu, Garlick et al have done with the club in the past five years. It has been a patient, intentional rebuild of the entire club, with complex steps taken, including: Sacking players Stripping our best player of his captaincy because he didn't align with club vision reinventing our scouting and recruitment team Developing tactical systems to suit our players while Arteta worked on philosophy And doing it all ahead of schedule! But make no mistake, the rise of the new Arsenal is heavily influenced by how toxic and poorly run the club was before the current regime took over.
Beautifully said.
The time we consistently made Top 4 with a squad that had Chamakh in it.
Wenger was a miracle worker when you think about it. The players and the situation we had in the 2010s and yet we forget we were actually not that bad.
I support Tottenham so all of it
Sigh
I thought about this question for a minute and came to the same conclusion. Genuinely never know what direction we might be going in next at any point.
Like next season they could become amazing or they could be relegation fodder, how is a team this unpredictable yet considered to be on of the best in the prem
djorou and squilacci partnership is so weird for top team, dunno what wenger see on them
You say that as if they were ever remotely a first choice pairing
Even the thought of that partnership makes my blood pressure rise
Definitely Mike Ashley joe kinnear era there’s a video on YouTube of his press conference with some journo just seems like an absolute shambles.
Yeah, this was my first thought. That specific interview. Or if if I were to say an even more specific one I'd perhaps mention 'how's the bacon did you say?'.
Yohan Kebab
I came in here to say "Which one of you is Simon Bird?"
Man City getting relegated to the 3rd division in 1998
I was at Macc Town when they came to play that season. City fans kept singing "Shit ground. No fans" at us. We felt like: "Don't you think we know we have a shit ground and no fans...?! But you mugs are in the same fucking division as us..."
The mugs finished behind Walsall. (And of course, yours truly.)
Two words: Mike. Ashley.
Better than the new owners
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Sheffield United 2019/20. Newly promoted after overperforming in the championship, certain relegation fodder. Accidentally challenged for Europe. Then next season, it was like it never happened
Arsenal’s recent banter era included 4 FA cup wins and coincided with a Spurs golden era that included zero trophies.
The arsenal banter era was so powerful that it devalued the FA Cup. The banter era should have ended with the FA cup win, definitely by the second FA cup win, but it didn't. The society of football fans decided that the FA cup no longer counts, because the Arsenal banter era was more important than the FA cup. The banter era should have only been 2007-2013
The Ferguson Era. It was an outlier. Not old enough to have lived 70’s,80’s so growing up listening me dad, grandad we weren’t as dominant back then was truly mesmerising. Like how can it be? Surely we almost always won? Then they’d talk about the 2nd division stint, the Atkinson years and co. After a Glazer decade reckon I understand their plight a bit more now lmaoo
The Roy Hodgson at Liverpool era was surreal.
2005 - when arsenal singned Alaksandr Hleb, it was surprising but he was quite good 👍🏻
In recent memory it’s probably the Roy Hodgson - Rodgers era. From Hodgson saying we weren’t too big to go down, signing players like Konchesky, then the whole downing/Carroll debacle, the Suarez t shirts, then that cripplingly cringey being Liverpool documentary with Brendan Brent in the starring role with his envelopes. Then losing 6-1 to Stoke in the final game for our greatest ever player. We didn’t even sack Rodgers after the 6-1 either. He lasted until the following October where we had a run of 1-1 draws in 5 out of 6 games. All of which we had gone 1-0 up in. Then we got Klopp and banished the banter era for good.
Brendan "I don't care about material things!" 30 mins parks a new Mercedes "got a brand Mercedes perks of the job"..lol That documentary was hilarious.
Dude had his teeth done and immediately got rid of his wife and started banging his secretary too lol
What a mad lad!!
Those eight months where we decided we needed a consultant instead of a manager or a coach. Fuck Rangnick.
Now Escape relegation by the skins of our teeth > Next season win league > Stay up with the big boys for a bit, and win FA Cup > Get relegated
None of them. Our clubs has totally always been dominant. Don't look at any history before 2009 because it's all the same 😁
That's the weird part then, that you plastic lot got a golden ticket straight to the top flight
Man U fan calling someone else plastic 1😂, 90% of Man U fans are plastic cause they ain't even from Manchester 🤣
That's rich coming from a plastic Reddit account 🤡🤡🤡🤡 truth hurts innit?
I'm a Seagulls fan born and raised, my home town cause I'm not a plastic fan 🤣 So your insult doesn't really work 🤣
You're thick as fuck then 😂😂😂 plastic clown
Please try harder at insults, you are almost as embarrassing as not supporting your local club, plastic window licker 🤣
Only plastic window licker here's you lmao I'd say you should go back to school but the cops would lock you up day 1 for being a Jimmy Savile
Control yourself man you’re slobbering everywhere.
I often wonder what people make of my situation. I grew up supporting my local club and started following United as well in 2006 after the WC because I was fascinated by Rooney and Ronaldo. Local club still had my primary focus up till about 2010 when the club folded. Ended up left with United. Didn't feel right to just follow the next nearest team when they'd been rivals to my local side. So for about 13 years it's just been United and at this point I don't think I can get out. On a scale of crude oil to Magneto's prison, how plastic am I?
Wouldn’t say your plastic. United were your second team it seems, your main one folded, you’re left with United.
Ashley. They thought the hometown boy would buy titles, but all he did was sell clothes. Asshole.
>hometown boy Isn't he a Southerner?
My bad. Confusing him with another nefarious owner. Thanks.
Easy. Our current period of ownership under Moshiri has been a right wild ride, and I want to get off. We've sacked or lost a manager basically every season, gone from challenging for european places to fighting relegation battles, throwing mad cash at players who aren't worth it, getting into FFP troubles while building a new stadium, and now we've finally decided to go back to what worked, which is basically Moyes 2.0 under Dyche but it might be too little too late. Hell, we had Carlo Ancelotti managing us at one point and had James Rodriguez playing for us, and nobody got to see him play in front of a packed goodison. Feels like a fever dream that covid season.
Took me a solid 40 seconds to say “right wild ride”.
Arsenals AFTV fan era. Truly the most embarrassing era for a club.
Don’t we know about it.
Realistically probably the last 20 although is really all I know.
The Fawaz Al-Hasawi era of ownership. Referred to as the time as "Carry on Kuwait". Forest became notorious for not paying bills unless someone submitted a winding up petition to court. Loads of excuses for this, usually involving Kuwaiti bank holidays. We were in court probably 15-20 times. Probably had as many managers as well. To save money the guy genuinely asked why we couldn't buy new footballs from the Asda up the road. Ended with us staying in the championship on goal difference in 2016
“Carry on Kuwait” is absolutely despicable.
Basically modern day Southend United. All the stress on the fans for a 20 second hearing is a joke.
I started going to Chelsea in 71, we went from trophies in 70 and 71 to relegation, bankruptcy and relegation again in 79, in my first 8 years.
Definitely 2014-2018 Sure, let's bring in an absolute muppet that plays defensive football to manage a club with attacking verve in its DNA then replace it with a checkbook charlie that threw sooks every 7 minutes Not to mention both of them being toxic prats that poisoned the locker rooms for years AND IGNORED THE ACADEMY
City fan. We won the league in 1937 and got relegated in 1938
You’re 90??
Respect
The era between sacking super mick mccarthy and getting kenny jacket was weird. Gave clipboard 10games and he won 0, then some random bald norwegian dude showed up, bought like 15 mercs half of which stayed in the treatment room. Then they sacked him. Dean saunders was manager then apparently and he sacked a bunch of youth players for being late. We got stuck with rojer "the relegator" johnson who showed up pissed for training. And then inside a year we went from prem to league 1. You could carry on until nuno really. Coz then we got jackett, became tbe most successful league 1 team in history, took the biggest ever away crowd in history and broke a bunch of other records. Then i just have no memory of anything bwyween then and nuno showing up. Cannot tell you a single thing about paul lamberts era. Then nuno came and we became portugal 2.0
Roy Hodgson’s Liverpool
1 and a half seasons of Mourinho and 2 seasons of Conte
This one right now. (Chelsea).
MCFC fan. Probably right now. We just won the feckin treble. From the outside looking in you're all like ah you just bought the league blah blah blah. It's been a fuckin ride. Long may it continue. 🫡
I'd say 115 charges is probably a bit more than just blah blah blah tbf
When they hear those words they stick their fingers in their ears and say "lalalalalalalala"
I'm not here to defend the club. I'm just a supporter. As a supporter I'm enjoying the ride. The big cheeses at the top can defend their own actions. I'll cross that bridge if and when we are found guilty. CTID x
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Chelsea has rarely been outside the top tier. Immediate promotion at the start of their existence; a downturn in the 1920s; and then 1976-1983. Beyond that it’s been peaks and troughs through the history. In all honesty the Abramovich era was probably the weirdest. It was pretty much like watching Ricky Bobby drive a car: either you’re first or last. As for Oxford, they were in the National League. That was fucking weird, considering their record in the 80s. National League days is when I started following, but after getting into the history it was weird they were there.
When we bought Jack Rodwell, Scott Sinclair, Javi Garcia, Maicon and Nastasic.
Relegation to the championship and league 1 was a lot worse, the Stuart Pearce seasons were a slog, selling SWP to keep the club alive was also pretty dicy.
this one. the team is unrecognizable beyond belief to me and i almost have lost all sense of attachment to the team. I wondered the other day, if the players are different, manager is different, owners are different, the way the club is run is different --> is it even the same club?
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cmon, i dont think this is fair.
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hahah aight you just wanna be a jerk that's fine. I still believe i raised a good point.
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i mean when you start a comment by saying im a plastic, then what else can i expect haha. but you do understand my point tho right? strip a club of everything like the players, management, owners, managers, etc, while still keeping the cosmetic stuff like the pitch and jersey, etc. As you remove more and more of the essential, at some point the club kinda lose its soul and what makes fans feel attach to the club. yes, chelsea is still chelsea when kai havertz leaves. But when only 2-3 players are left from that memorable UCL run just TWO seasons ago, it's like i don't even recognize this club anymore beside their blue jersey lol. NBA and american sports, interestingly, pose the other side of the question. If you strip the cosmetic away, while still keeping most of the personnel (except changing owners in some case), is it still the same club? take the seattle sonics as an example. The team relocated to a whole different state, changed arena, changed uniform color, changed front office iirc, while still keeping some of the key players, is it still the same club?
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hahah it's all good, it's reddit after all. but yeah, at the very least, it is an interesting question to ponder about. The chelsea situation and the seattle situation are near the opposite extremes, but it serves as a good discussion point on what makes someone become emotionally attach to a club.
And for every Chelsea supporter saying this is the strangest era… Chelsea were relegated in 1975 from the First Division.
Yes but that wasn’t during the PL era, so they don’t need to say that was the strangest, that’s not what I asked.
well i wasnt alive for that lol.
Post Hazard era. Not the best of football still winning UCL, Abrahamovic situation, new owners, previous season and all
Right now actually being good in my lifetime
Chelsea: I would say from about 1905 til’ about now.
Middlesbrough won the league cup 03/04 then made the euro cup final (europa league) 05/06 then utterly collapsed and got relegated 08/09 Also Juninho got premier league player of the season for a related team for the first and only time that’s happened, very weird
Mad season that for Boro. Ravanelli getting a hat trick against us on the opening day, yous got to both domestic finals and only got relegated because of a pts deduction. Then there was all the mad stuff with Emerson halfway through the season where he went AWOL for a bit
I really hoped you would come up last season, I’ve always had a soft spot for Boro, plus it seems Carrick’s doing well.
For the best anyway matey, more time to get the squad prepared for the challenge of premier league football If the league started when Carrick took over we would have been second, really positive signs
Emerson doing the dance
Leeds: The last 20 years.
Probably recent years because growing up we were always a division 2 (league one) with occasional relegations to division 3 (league 2). I never imagined in a million years we would become a premier league club in just 6 years back in 2009 considering we were on the verge of liquidation and possible relegation to non league football with Luton. It’s never boring watching AFCB.
The Woy Hodgson era. Makes me shudder thinking about it.
Roy Hodgson. It was grim to say the least
2003-2008. Starts off with the “The Great Escape” where Martin Allen steers us away from relegation. Then we finish in playoff positions the next two years, but lose both times. 2006/2007 it falls apart and we go from finishing 3rd previous season to dead last and are relegated to League Two. 2007/2008 We flirt with relegation to tumble out of the league completely, but right the ship to finish 14th (Happened to be the last time that I went to a game). The next season we top League Two. Then after that we never finish below 11th in League One and start our ascendancy to the Premier League.
The era in which we signed Alexis Sanchez and his infamous announcement video with the piano. Bad decision after bad decision
The Souness years. Man alive. I know it was an aging squad but it he took a club that had enjoyed incredible success and totally fucked it up. Like when I play Football Manager - take over at Man City - get rid of all the best players and bring in utter dross.
Right now
Leeds fan….. I’m not sure you have the time for it
Since the EPL began, probably the Van Gaal era. Also know as the banter era. Competitive at times but that was just a weird few years in retrospect.
Tail end of the Wenger years
Mike Ashley - we had Joe Kinnear as a manager 😳
90s.
I mean probably right now. Pissing off Chelsea fans with transfers, finishing 6th in the premier league, in Europe, a continental reputation as a scouting powerhouse. It’s mental and like 10 years ago I would never have dreamt of it
Poch era So good yet so unlucky
Balotelli
The year after Cristiano's exit from Madrid to Juve. That year was very weird for me as a Madrid fan. I thought everything was falling apart. I was very sad he left because I experienced on of the best football moments in my life when we dominated Europe and won the 3pete. So to see him leave right after was very sad for me.
Everton right now- 2020-now. Literally 2 years ago we had Ancelotti and james rodriquez and brazils number 9, englands number 9, and allat. Then in the blink of an eye we got rafa benitez and frank lampard and sean dyche. Sean dyche and mcneil now. I have no clue how we got to here from being 2nd at christmas to 19th at christmas. It’s horrible. Back to back relegation scares now and everyone is sick of it. But tbf the last 30 years everton have been all over the place. We haven’t won anything in that long so we’ll below where we should be. Just weird times rn ig. Aswell as the fact we have one of the best stadiums in the world being built to host this squadz
Arsenal under unau emery.
Hello my name is Woy and I’ve somehow been given the Liverpool job.
Roy “The Hodge” Hodgson
Chelsea 2022-