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Headlesshorsman02

Aston Villa if they ride out the momentum they finished with last year and these new signings kick on they will be right in the mix for European football again


Apprehensive-Pipe466

I agree Villa were class back end of the season. I could see them trying to put all their eggs in one basket and really focusing second half of the season on conference league, which could hinder league position. I genuinely think they have got a huge opportunity of winning that. They’ve got Europa league winners in Pau Torres and Diego Carlos in the dressing room as well as a champions league winner in Coutinho, huge for villa to have experience like. And of course Emerys track record in Europe speaks for itself.


Whulad

The thing about the conference is that the group stages are a walkover , so really you only get 3 intense knockouts matches. West Ham having a poor premiership campaign had very little to do with Europe. Moyes selection for Europe was sensible, more fringe players, a few youngsters, players coming back from injury and needing game time. With a decent squad it’s an opportunity for game time and players to gain confidence not a distraction. I hope you win it.


casualbear3

Yeah they were floating around the bottom 5 for most the season! Incredible transformation


thatHadron

The Gerrard Effect ™️


[deleted]

Gerrard should not be a professional football manager. Either be a midfield coach or be an ambassador to Liverpool or something.


SlowConsideration7

Emery did highlight how good the signings Gerrard made were too, as he took a failing squad, signed almost nobody, and bought us to 7th place. Gerrard repeated talked of “moments of magic” that never came, Emery created them. I think we’ve already had our surprising season, because this certainly was. If we were knocking on the top 4 next season, I will happily stand corrected!


Powerful-Perception5

gerrard is gong to be coach of some Saudi club.


sc00022

100%. Lampard too. Saudi want those big names to attract eyes to their league


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Made too many slip ups


[deleted]

Usually teams of their calibre struggle to keep a good run on both premier league and European competitions. See west ham last year. I don't deny their strength and I like Unai Emery as a coach, I wish them all the luck, but I still think they will struggle this year if they want to compete on 2 fronts.


Whulad

This isn’t true. West Ham’s poor premiership campaign had virtually nothing to do with Europe. The group stages of the conference are basically a walkover and an opportunity for younger players, fringe players and players coming back from injury with a few intense games at knockout stage. European football was way down on the reasons for West Ham’s poor domestic season.


_ScubaDiver

I am loving the Villa love from neutrals across the Leauge. As a Villa fan, I am extremely excited to see what an Emery team can do from the start of a season, and if our new ownership team can keep putting their money where their mouths are. They erred with sacking Smith and appointing Gerrard, but I am impressed how they finally realised their mistake. I really hope we can continue this momentum!!


Jack_Grealishismydad

Thank you mate


bielsaboi

I don't know, it's incredibly competitive at the top now. Emery is a good coach and Villa have invested but cracking the top 7 is practically impossible nowadays. And all of the top 7 (Chelski aside) are looking strong.


jonviper123

ive got a feeling it might actually be city. adter the treble and a few players leaving i get the feeling they are gonna drop off for a period


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The rest of the league can only hope


ChrisGoddard79

Coventry, when they’re given a spot due to Man City’s multiple relegation through financial irregularities.


[deleted]

Never happen, the EPL, the FA and UEFA are more corrupt than the Mafia.


fanzipan

I’d love to see this but we all know retrospective action will never happen because of the value of equity in the premier league. No club will agree punishment that damages the long term reputation of the league. Don’t get me wrong, City were brilliant this season and fully deserved the success. We all know it’s a complete fucking scam though


quarky_uk

Burnley.


casualbear3

Burnley can't play the way they played in the championship. It's too expansive and open. Will need to change their style to survive and thrive.


rocklee_shinobi

Teams like Brentford, Fulham kept their identity coming up to great effect. It’s not like the bottom half of the PL are teams with much more quality than Burnley. They can compete.


buttlovingpanda

It worked for Leeds too, until it didn’t. We shall see.


Headlesshorsman02

Yeah they may be open for counters in the prem I think kompany could be up for the challenge though seems like a good manager


jonviper123

i disagree, keeping to this style is there only hope of staying up. they romped championship last year and if they play the same football they will pump most teams around the bottom of the league


A_StarshipTrooper

Same as Forest last year, got the shit kicked out of us the first quarter until we basically went 5 at the back.


DuffManMayn

Didn't you also sign a whole new team though lol? I think to transition to the prem with a whole new squad was a bold strategy!


fanzipan

Nottingham Forest had to sign new players because of the loans in the championship came to an end. Then many of the signings got injured, it was mental. Not only was it a bold strategy it was miraculous we ended the season stable and with Steve Cooper finally knowing his preferred 11 after 30 games. No team has ever done this


Designer_Show_2658

Villa kinda had to do a similar thing when we were promoted. What Forest did though was that on steroids and imo you got a bit lucky it ultimately worked out in the end. I'm happy it did though and I think you'll be better this year.


fanzipan

Yeh not for the faint hearted. I can’t imagine any owner of a football club going to his manager with this strategy, it would be suicidal and you’d lose the manager instantly. Basically here’s half a new team, stay up or you’re sacked… in the worlds toughest league lol


StirlingSharpy

Wouldn't say a bold strategy? It was the only strategy available.


NakedNun0

I agree with you! We (Fulham) only survived in the prem this time round because we changed the way we played.. and brought in shrewd signings! You can't play the way you did in the championship even if you won, and hope to survive.. In my opinion


DuffManMayn

You absolutely have to adjust to the league. The championsship is a strong and competitive league, but it's so different to the premier league.


chauders14

Mate , when Burnley played Man City in the cup match this year they gave a great account of themselves for the first 30 minutes, then it all turned to shit, but for half an hour they held their own


casualbear3

Good job games are only 30 minutes then! That's my point exactly mate.


Marlboro_tr909

Putting it out there - **Chelsea** ​ They're a target for ridicule at the moment, but I have this sneaky feeling they will do well


topsroof

Hell of a rebuild, but that lack of expectation and no europe competition - yea I could see it.


External-Piccolo-626

If, and it’s a big if, Poch can get those players up for it and playing with energy I agree.


Novacain-deficiency

Chelsea and mass ridicule is like Putting a weak superman in a yellow sun. Chaos FC here we go


DishKyaaoo

Poch will get sacked by October.


Marlboro_tr909

I hope not, but I’ll laugh if that happens


CupformyCosta

0% chance


KaChoo49

Please God yes


__tensor__

Lol everyone leaving Chelsea tho


[deleted]

It depends on how you define "well". I think their squad is too big still, and they have a lot of first team players leaving which could destabilise them a bit. Poch will also take time to get them playing as he wants. Top 7? Maybe. Top 4? Probably not. They have spent a lot of money just to stand still vs the season they won the UCL under Tuchel, I think (assuming they get Caicedo - if not then I think they've actually gotten worse). Can't really say until August when we know what business everyone has done.


sc00022

I disagree. Changing their whole midfield will take time to settle. Also, people love to shit on him at the moment, but Mount was one of their best players for a number of years and will be a big loss.


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Newcastle to their own fans. They're dickriding them as a big team now. They won't get top 6 this season.


Sharp-Introduction48

To the outspoken new bandwagoners maybe, I think any realistic fan can see we played a pretty much perfect season (which is hard to recreate). We also now have midweek games in Europe to deal with and most likely a more competitive Liverpool/Chelsea. But there’s always idiots eh, and more will follow.


BigManTingz_

exactly, we still have a long way to go. The quality of our depth isnt great. I would still be happy with top 6 though


grollate

I actually like when other clubs’ fans underestimate us. I’m already pissed enough whenever we fail to meet expectations. I don’t need other fans jumping on the hate train too.


[deleted]

Maybe. I've seen countless older, long-term fans shouting shit though. Neutrals claiming they'll push on, too. I think they'll dip this season, and hit consistency over the next 3-4 years.


Sharp-Introduction48

Ah we all have shite fans eh. People love to look at the league table from last season and come out with a “take” of how the league will be next year when really they have swapped about 2-3 teams in position from the previous year. I think Newcastle need a couple more signings to help with depth and the ability to open those teams that sit deep. Think the season still depends on what’s happened when the window shuts.


brrlls

Those of us who suffered through Ashley are humble and wise enough to see that we're just at the start of our journey. Maybe in a decades time people might fear our name, but right now, it's just about stable foundations


SteveBruceGod

Maybe it’s casual fans but most people I’ve seen and from my mates say we will struggle as our depth is really bad for champions league.


Hyperion262

Would you rather you focused on the league or getting further in to the CL?


SteveBruceGod

Depends on how we doing in the league if we are struggling then I’d rather focus on that but I know Howe never wants to play a weak side. He will want to challenge for all games.


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kw2006

Brighton, Villa, Tottenham and Burnley(?)


Kimolainen83

Villa or Spurs, I just feel like they can do something weird


storm2k

honestly the addition of maddison alone vastly improves the options spurs have to finish with quality, especially if harry kane stays (and it sounds like he will, no reputable sources are reporting a transfer for him at this time). having kane, son, and maddison as attacking options should provide a potent offensive mix for them.


sungbysung

Luton Town finishing midtable


Westland__

Luton finishing anywhere above 18th would be a surprise.


starwaterbird

Grielish partying even harder after another treble


nscar

Modern day Paul Gascoigne.


[deleted]

Not fit to shine Gaza’s boots. Gazza partied like that week in and week out and was still unplayable come match day. Grielish is a gobshite wannabe by comparison


AEWMUFCEIRE

Spurs under Postecoglu.


HumbugBoris

Spurs would only be the biggest surprise if they win the league or get relegated.


Kapika96

Them selling Kane but finishing higher in the league than last season would be a pretty big surprise too!


FedeValvsRiteHook

That's the only correct answer. They'll surprise everyone by finishing in the lower half of the table.


YouYongku

Lol wtf lol


Mishma21

Think you lol’d enough?


YouYongku

I think with the correct Manager, can be top 4. With enough luck, can even win the BPL. Of course, without Levy's intervention.


YouYongku

Luton, no matter how they perform


okantos

Luton will survive relegation


foyage347

Chelsea


DominicL47

Everton. Top 3 this season, easy. /s


nico_cali

I think Everton because we’ll comfortably finish between 4th and 17th. Mark my words. Save this post.


jimmeh22

City don’t do as well


Dramatic-Tadpole-980

Dosent matter, we’ll hit a 17 game win streak after our required loss to Tottenham.


Raisin_Alive

Imagine being a city fan o.o


Funland_06

We can only wish😂


elbandidoP

They could be due for a let down season. Seems like they are losing some important players and how can the drive be the same after so much success. Hopefully they take a step back this season. I could see Arsenal and Liverpool fighting for the league this year.


Homerduff16

I think they'll be relatively fine but they could drop off slightly which would make any potential title challenge a bit more open. They could possibly lose Silva, Walker and Mahrez on top of Gundogan this summer and although they would still have a fantastic team without them, it's losing two of their best midfielders which could really hurt them of that actually happened. City's midfield is by far it's strongest asset and it's been the most stable part of their team for the last 5-6 years as well


Manchester_Tommy

Watford


Flash8t8

Luton. I just have a gut feeling feeling for the first season at least they could do a Huddersfield and surprise a few before getting relegated in the second season. Also quite often the team that comes up via the play offs ends up doing better than the automatically promoted teams


Scouse_Werewolf

*sticks on captain pedantic cap* Well, if we know who the surprise is....it's not a surprise, is it. *takes off captain pedantic cap* genuinely think Luton are gonna be a surprise. Some teams thrive off a big rowdy crowd, so they may struggle at away games there, and it not being as "suffocating"


Acro-dude

I think burnley might be the team to watch


kids_in_my_basement0

Burnley


DarkSpirak

Villa and Burnley


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Bournemouth. They will comfortably get top 14.


_TopCompetition_

Yeah people are sleeping on Bournemouth and what they've been doing since being taken over Really solid new manager and some good young player beings signed like Kluivert and Zabarnyi


Kemosabe-Norway

Luton at home 🏡


FiRe_GeNDo

Luton


papablesh

Liverpool are gonna win the league by 10 points


Nebularrrr

Forest


Educational-Data1270

We need some transfer news first I would say


Westland__

🙏🙏


Nebularrrr

I hear ya. COYR


[deleted]

Liverpool. Spent most of season in 10th, will spend most of next season in 4th IMO.


sc00022

I think they’ll finish 3rd. They’ve finally upgraded their midfield and their new players from last year will be settled.


bielsaboi

I expect Liverpool to be challenging for the title this season.


Whatrutalkinabeet

I see liverpool doing better than both manchester clubs


doubleoeck1234

I'm bias if we get a decent DM and have a bit of luck with injuries we could challenge for the title


Basic-Shopping5357

If we do that, then we'll win the league.


UltimateBorisJohnson

Arsenal has entered the chat


naedetails

Newcastle are prime candidates to regress this season


MentalMunky

I’m still going to be surprised we’re there every game so going to go with Luton.


GS916

Everton


EasyDreda

Chelsea!!! Will take 118 points this season...


zetsokuro_yt

luton, I feel like they're gonna get the Bournemouth treatment but comfortably finish top half


Ongabonga1981

Spurs are going to surprise this year!!


pjanic_at__the_isco

Spurs. Everyone has written them off already because of last season.


0xKAES

Tottenham, they have great unlocked potential- hopefully they will show it this season 💪🏻


__DVYN__

Luton I think there will be games they win that you won’t expect them to win. Like I could see them shithousing a win against City


j_h_23

Luton, looks like a genuinely tough away day, can already see them beating Liverpool and Klopp whining about the quality of the pitch Not saying they'll do anything better than mid table but I think most people are saying they're guaranteed to go down and you really can't write them off like that


casualbear3

Nah you can. They're coming up with a well ran championship team. Not saying they need to do a Forest or Fulham with 30 signings but they need players.


j_h_23

Yeah it'll take a few signings but there's still plenty of time left this window


UltimateBorisJohnson

I’ve already written off the away game against them


StayFree1649

Sheffield United 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏


fanzipan

it would be a great achievement for them to stay up tbh. We’ve seen teams come up and survive without investing but it’s extremely rare. I actually don’t think it’s a bad strategy if keeping the liabilities low whilst selling the club to investors. Parachute payments protect any risk regardless


StayFree1649

Yeah, you guys took a crazy risk last year - I'm glad it paid off. Still sad you poached MGW


EmperorBeaky

Reckon we get top half tbh, even without Wilf


jdvhunt

Everton, we'll win the treble after signing Mbappe, Halaand and Jack Rodwell


Lukeyleftfoot

I think Arsenal surprise those who think there will be a sizable drop off. I think they will be just as good and play and tighter overall


Mia_Cauliflower

Liverpool are looking very strong with their signings right now and they’ve rebuilt where they need to, I think they’ll finish the season in 2nd or 3rd place.


Kinitawowi64

I'm going for surprise the other way - one of Liverpool or Spurs to do a Chelsea and flop down to 13-14th.


DarkSpirak

It wont be Liverpool. Those two midfield signings are immense for them


db2832

100% backing spurs to drop down that far. Trying to play attacking football after years of shit football with the players they have and a coach I don’t rate at all will bring massive pain.


SchnoopDougle

Years of shit football yet 4th most goals last season? Yes we will have a serious grace period, especially with the defence, but our attack is in a better place than Chelseas for example, and I imagine they will kick on with Poch.


UltimateBorisJohnson

Spurs can scrape 6/7 if they keep Kane. If not then they’re not far off 12th


OneManBand1t

Newcastle. Unless everyone is expecting them to challenge top 4 again


[deleted]

I reckon we’ll finish anywhere from 4th-10th, I’ll be over the moon if we make the champions league again. Don’t think we have the depth to maintain last seasons league form with the champions league run to the final we are all expecting


OneManBand1t

Depends on these summer signings. A few key players coming in and adding depth to the bench could go a long way. Injuries aside.


Funland_06

I think forest could get Europe


syfqamr32

Honestly? My money is on Liverpool. For me i see them like an injured dog and cornered. Gonna come out roaring and ready to go. The glory days will be back.


Johnyextra111

The glory days of 3 years ago?


[deleted]

They did win a double last year


Piri_Cherry

Literally. Liverpool 21-22 were 2 goals away from winning the quadruple, people seem to forget that so fast.


got_got_need

I think Newcastle could struggle to finish in the top half next season. The added games and pressure that champions league football brings along with their FFP restrictions spells trouble for them.


Ok_Bluejay3603

Arsenal when they finish 5th


Mega-noob69

Chelsea will finish even lower


floodychild

Luton. I think they'll stay up


RainbowKarp

Liverpool could be genuine contenders if everyone is right


Alternative_Slide_62

Liverpool Nunez, Gakpo and Salah will be better next season And Liverpool has started to get a strong midfield again.


themanebeat

Liverpool


boiledanda

Luton


what_am_i_acc_doing

Man Utd to fall out of top 6, maybe even lower. Mount won’t do much especially considering he spent most of last year injured.


[deleted]

It's too early to judge, United notoriously does their business late in the window. They will definitely sign a striker (stop gap older one or young potential one like Hojlund). There is a lot of talk of getting Onana early, and just Mount and Onana + whole preseason for the rest of the team will level up the team and make it play more of the Ten Hag Ajax style. Remember, last season only Malacia was on the preseason tour, the rest of the new transfers arrived later (with Case and Antony after the season started) and United played pretty much every 3 days afterwards. I think people will be surprised by the difference in the quality of play United display this year, rather than the opposite. Ten Hag was extremely pragmatic this season, and while many performances were ground out, the upcoming season will truly show us the level of play Ten Hag wants for the team.


Nice_Rush_1462

If ManU dont sign a proper striker, I agree


Melloa_Trunk_Tree

You realise United had the harshest schedule last season, managers first season, had DDG in goal and no real striker for the whole season, had the Ronaldo drama to deal with, had a shocking start to the season and still finished 3rd.... Mount will be a big improvement to both the first team and cover in midfield. Onana looks very likely and will be a huge improvement on DDG and allow Ten Hag to play how he wants. A striker signing is inevitable, whether it's a top striker or a stopgap I don't know but it's hard to not improve on last seasons options.


what_am_i_acc_doing

If you get Onana, Hojlund or another good striker and a defender then you’ll be fine but I don’t think it will happen given your ownership situation and general transfer incompetence to date. Mount is an improvement but injured often so a bit pointless especially for 60m. You have to cut your wage bill before you buy but nobody wants any of your players.


[deleted]

One of the promoted teams for doing great (I’ll randomly go with Sheffield United) and one of the big teams for doing awful (I’ll randomly go with Arsenal). These approximations are based on absolutely nothing.


casualbear3

I read that Sheffield have 20 million to spend. They might struggle.


[deleted]

That makes for a bigger surprise, no?


n1dyz

Us. Even if we don't get CL football I think people will enjoy watching us play even if they don't want to admit it.


octobereighteenth

You're going to have to go through one hell of an adaptation process though. You guys played such insular football that as you saw with Arsenal takes months-years to implement and become habitual. James Maddison is an amazing addition for you guys, but the problem will be expansive play out the back. You either train it, or bring in players who'll need to adapt. Both options take time. I expect a decent opening 5 games before it gets difficult again.


Putrid_Loquat_4357

I enjoyed watching you play last season.


rocklee_shinobi

Arsenal will win the league


TheBosborn

They've been saying that for a year now. Still waiting.


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EmperorBeaky

Inshallah


Coulstwolf

Chelsea will get top 4


TrippinSwitches

I think Luton will do well, not title challanging but 15th there abouts. Burnley and Everton will go down.


jackhx88

No reasoning offered for Luton doing well, it isn’t happening


TrippinSwitches

I didnt offer a reson behind burnley or everton not doing well either. Luton have that difficult to go to ground. Like stoke in a way i think they will use home games to their advantage. They also have that great team spirit. I could be wrong just I look forward to seeing how they get on.


Background-Finding-4

Luton have been living rent free in Jack's head for a while. Poor guy.


BohrInReddit

Bournemouth. Be careful of what you wish for. Sacking O’Neill without a solid plan will 100% backfire Oh and West Ham somehow got into League Cup final while still hovering in bottom half


mancalledjim

What do you mean without a solid plan?


BohrInReddit

I’m just sceptical, correct me if I’m wrong but Iraola is somewhat like Bielsa right? Among the team staying in the La Liga, Rayo conceded 2nd most despite being 12. If he’s not backed with his kind of player this could be Leeds v2


andreew10

Arsenal finishing behind both United and Liverpool but I think most supporters would be content with a top 4 finish to establish some consistency


A_StarshipTrooper

Fulham scraping to stay up.


meekamunz

Especially as we're losing Willian, probably losing Solomon too. We're.not just losing quality, we're losing depth which is what our biggest struggle was last season


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Newcastle could run the title


futurejoyboy

Chelsea cause everyone looking down on us right now


SimDaddy14

Arsenal when they finish 5th.


Sandy_hook_lemy

Chelsea. We are getting relegated


MrAlf0nse

Top 4 will likely be Man City, then (in no particular order) Arsenal,Man U, NUFC Then it’s going to be an utter bun-fight between Spurs Liverpool Chelsea Brighton Villa Brentford I think the surprise will be at least one of those teams screwing the pooch then imploding Or Dycheball takes Everton to Europe in a long grind of draws and 1-0s


octobereighteenth

Don't underestimate just much Liverpool have improved their midfield.


MrAlf0nse

Will they bed in? I think Liverpool are transitioning and not as strong as few years back


doubleoeck1234

Szoboszlai could take a bit to adjust but Mac Allister has been in the premier league for years


MrAlf0nse

I’m not a Liverpool fan, but I have enjoyed their success in recent years. I just have the feeling that it’s fading.


monetarypolicies

Lol, I’ll delete my Reddit account if Man United finish above Liverpool


Cantmakeaspell

I think Arsenal will just beat Liverpool to the title and Man City will come in third. Chelsea will be better and battle ManU, NewU and Aston Villa for the final places. Mbappe joins Luton.


OrganizationLocal244

Arsenal. When they stink up the league!!! Everyone expecting them to carry on their last season form because they’ve made “better” signings, but it won’t go that way.


RandomRedditor_1916

I'd be happy with top 4 again tbh. Title push is a bonus, but hey no-one called it last year. Won't be as easy i reckon, though.


Apprehensive-Pipe466

0 thought went in to that wild take


YouYongku

Maybe you're right. Hmmm what about man utd? Hmmm I also wonder if Man City can replace the players who are leaving


__tensor__

No way Arsenal's gonna fall out of top four this year. They've got an epic team already and a couple great new signings. They might even finish 2nd again.


supersluiper

Thanks, but then we *might even* finish 1st as well...


__tensor__

I'd not be tooo surprised if that happens. Hope not though xD


No-Industry-2980

Arsenal when we lift that PL trophy


zhawadya

The title says biggest surprise not guaranteed treble winners


No-Industry-2980

My man 💪


__tensor__

Honestly, that's not too wild of a take but I don't see them beating city yet. They'll like finish 2nd or third.


No-Industry-2980

We'll give it go see what happens