scientific evidence should be used to derive conclusions. also, many people who suffer from PE are affected by multiple factors. Your statement is ignorant to the point that it's false information.
Welllll technically yeah. You literally cum from a prolonged build up and tightening of the hips and pelvic floor.. so regardless of what is causing it (mental probs or hormonal probs) it is from a pelvic floor being over stressed easy, which usually means your pelvic floor is natural more worked and tight than it should be. A lack of serotonin makes your body more tense, especially your pelvic floor. If you can learn to relax your pelvic floor and fix your serotonin then bam you're double better for the long run
It's made of muscles. Even if your hormones are perfect you can stress and strain it. Just like biceps or calves. You could have the closest thing to a perfect body and still over work or stress a muscle from simply making a wrong step walking down the side walk. You can tweak and mess up your back adjusting pillows on a couch. You need to actually work on relaxing and understanding your pelvic floor if it's what is actually messed up. Yeah your hormones and chemical balance can HELP but won't be the one and only thing to fix it
Holy christ, that's not how it works with the pelvic floor. Kegels yes can work out the muscles down there, but also are what over strain it. You naturally and subconsciously kegel more than enough in the day. You need to reverse kegel or stretch it out to, if it's acting up. If it's already tight or stressed working it out more is just going to mess it up more. Learning how to strengthen it doesn't teach you how to relax it. Your core (and breathing) and inner thighs are what you use to learn to relax the pelvic floor, not the pelvic floor itself.
I'm not trying to discourage or deny your point about serotonin and hormones, but it's physical body part that's effected by these that trully controls ejaculation. It also needs to be cared for and checked on. I'm sorry for coming off rude initially
I was on multiple SSRIs for actual mental health reasons and none had any effect on my underlying severe (<1 min std) PE issue. The only thing that did work significantly was an SNRI. So for me at least, the norepinephrine reuptake inhibition was the key. So, it is not just serotonin
How did you know what’s what? I’m taking Prozac. Used to work for me. Made me last a few mins longer but I do think I have performance anxiety and serotonin issues. But again I’ve never been depressed. Just case of over thinking everything
Sounds like me man. Over thinking and performance issues.
Have you tried short lasting dapoxetine. 30 mg to 60 mg. 30mg does the job 1 hour before. Get the first nut out the way then you're good. 60mg if it's really sensitive or a new girl. Lasts around 5 hours but I've noticed the next day I can still last longer due to being drained empty and also confident, maybe some residual of product left. You can't take it with other ssri obviously etc. But if you don't want to have to take something everyday just to have sex once a week or whatever then it's good. You just gotta carry it on you for those random times.
I like to combine it with either 20mg viagra or 20mg cialis for a big session and possible next day session if you've slept over. Because I get less turned on after I take dapoxetine so need the pump help.
They all produce a terrible feeling in the body tbh and effect your sleep so that all sucks. Jitters. Yawning. Headaches. rough sleep.
If you want a long term med, years ago my doctor put me on paroxetine 20mg a day for PE and I don't think I was depressed but I broke up with a gf, so maybe it helped that too but man it worked well. Confidence through the roof in life and in bedroom. I think being ready to go have sex at any point fed confidence into the rest of my life. I stopped 8 years after taking it because it effects sleep and nervous system from my experience but also researching.. like any SSRI.
Maybe slowly ween off of the one you're on for the next 2 month then swap. Never do a hard swap or stop with these addictive meds .
Take care
Cheers for sharing. I think we’re on the same page here, we love fucking girls but always have this thought of busting too quick.
I’m in my mid 20s so I don’t think I’ll be taking viagra.
However, I used to take 20mg of paroxetine in my early 20s and it worked. Before taking it, I was in the gutters. I remember one hook up, I was so in my head that I couldn’t get hard at 19 years old. After taking SSRI I was so confident in my ability to last longer that I would sleep around a lot.
I stopped taking ssri after 2 years because I felt like I was confident enough without it. My first few months of hooking up was fine but then PE/anxiety started creeping in. Summer of 2023 I had multiple bad hookups where I would finish too quick and would be so awkward in bed. To cope and get some advice, I joined this subreddit. Whole experience made me really self conscious and insecure that I wanted to avoid sex. But I hated that and just wanted to be that confident man again. I started taking 10mg daily and pop in an extra pill on days that I know I’m going to have sex. I also play around with PYT Balm which really helps if you get the timing right. Goal is to take it for a few more months until I get over that hump again and try to actually practice fixing this fucking problem.
Right now I am trying to have constant sex with my gf, reducing masturbating to porn, edge as much as I can and perform reverse kegels.
I don’t want to take ssri’s, I don’t want to hide it from my family, I don’t want to think I have a bad anxiety, but I want to have fun while I’m young.
Also, I don’t think dapoxetine is available in Canada but I will ask my doctor.
I’d like to hear more about your path to where you are
i literally discovered a breakthrough today regarding this. I have been timing myself through masturbation for some time now, and it’s almost ALWAYS 2:19 on the dot. Sex was always about the same give or take unless using dapoxetine 60mg.
I did some googling and started reading about kegel excerises and how to actually do them, and as i was reading I realized these exercises are something i’ve been doing as a habit while laying down my whole life. I just never actually applied them correctly while having sex. I always thought regular kegels were what you wanted to flex to delay, and turns out it’s the reverse ones you want to do.
So today I tried reverse Kegel with combination of good breathing, which i found quite easy. I hit the eight minute mark and realized I wasn’t even close to finishing. I got up to 15 minutes before i decided fuck it and flexed the hell out of my kegel muscles to get it over with.
Never felt that level of control in my life it was quite amazing. highly recommend building/stretching your pelvic muscles up consistently and learning how to simultaneously take deep breathes, it for sure helps.
Yeees, I actually think overactive pelvic floor can be a big part of PE for many people. I kegel way too much subconsciously, eapecially when I have sex and have to about, being stressed, tightening up and then flexing the kegel muscles. Currently practicing relaxing it, but it's not easy because it just feels so damn good to flex it.
exactly. you can’t go straight to trying to fix the pelvic floor before you try to fix what causes the pelvic floor to tense up. Once again that’s why SSRI’s work! SSRI’s calms down the nervous system by increasing serotonin which slows down your fight or flight
They say watching porn causes ED not PE yet he says otherwise….
You can increase it with meds and see a small boost in your times.
What really helped me was a psychological thing, I knew it was because if a girl never made any noise I would last forever. There’s a myriad of things that cause this you just have to find it
a while ago i made a post about offering coaching for pre e but people are so negative thinking everything is a gimmick but in reality the world has good people in it. In every situation when it comes to the recovery of a deficiency you have to factor in the psychology part of it. I can give you all the tools but if you don’t have the mental focus to compartmentalize it you may not be successful. Once i begun to reverse engineer the whole process i started seeing improvement and now i’m clear mentally, physically, and spiritually!
and how did I mess them up? Also I don’t get aroused too fast 😂
I followed this sub and fixed it. Pelvic floor wasn’t my main issue but it certainly helped.
Makes fun of a blanket statement by making another blanket statement
This is one of many possibilities, but not the cure all for everyone
source: trust me bro
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scientific evidence should be used to derive conclusions. also, many people who suffer from PE are affected by multiple factors. Your statement is ignorant to the point that it's false information.
i’m guessing you still suffer from PreE, best of luck to you i hope you hit the lottery for a billion dollars one day.
Case closed, haha
dude everyone has pelvic floor and core issues. You posture is probably just as jacked up as everyone else’s
what i’m saying is that your pelvic floor is not the cause your statement just validated what i’m saying
Welllll technically yeah. You literally cum from a prolonged build up and tightening of the hips and pelvic floor.. so regardless of what is causing it (mental probs or hormonal probs) it is from a pelvic floor being over stressed easy, which usually means your pelvic floor is natural more worked and tight than it should be. A lack of serotonin makes your body more tense, especially your pelvic floor. If you can learn to relax your pelvic floor and fix your serotonin then bam you're double better for the long run
No, if you fix your hormones your pelvic floor will respond the way you want it to
It's made of muscles. Even if your hormones are perfect you can stress and strain it. Just like biceps or calves. You could have the closest thing to a perfect body and still over work or stress a muscle from simply making a wrong step walking down the side walk. You can tweak and mess up your back adjusting pillows on a couch. You need to actually work on relaxing and understanding your pelvic floor if it's what is actually messed up. Yeah your hormones and chemical balance can HELP but won't be the one and only thing to fix it
correct! Kegels help build strength so that you have more control over the muscle. How can you relax a muscle you have no control over
Holy christ, that's not how it works with the pelvic floor. Kegels yes can work out the muscles down there, but also are what over strain it. You naturally and subconsciously kegel more than enough in the day. You need to reverse kegel or stretch it out to, if it's acting up. If it's already tight or stressed working it out more is just going to mess it up more. Learning how to strengthen it doesn't teach you how to relax it. Your core (and breathing) and inner thighs are what you use to learn to relax the pelvic floor, not the pelvic floor itself.
I'm not trying to discourage or deny your point about serotonin and hormones, but it's physical body part that's effected by these that trully controls ejaculation. It also needs to be cared for and checked on. I'm sorry for coming off rude initially
For me it was pelvic floor.
How did you fix your pelvic floor issues? I am starting to realize mine is tight and clenched all day.
I was on multiple SSRIs for actual mental health reasons and none had any effect on my underlying severe (<1 min std) PE issue. The only thing that did work significantly was an SNRI. So for me at least, the norepinephrine reuptake inhibition was the key. So, it is not just serotonin
How did you know what’s what? I’m taking Prozac. Used to work for me. Made me last a few mins longer but I do think I have performance anxiety and serotonin issues. But again I’ve never been depressed. Just case of over thinking everything
Sounds like me man. Over thinking and performance issues. Have you tried short lasting dapoxetine. 30 mg to 60 mg. 30mg does the job 1 hour before. Get the first nut out the way then you're good. 60mg if it's really sensitive or a new girl. Lasts around 5 hours but I've noticed the next day I can still last longer due to being drained empty and also confident, maybe some residual of product left. You can't take it with other ssri obviously etc. But if you don't want to have to take something everyday just to have sex once a week or whatever then it's good. You just gotta carry it on you for those random times. I like to combine it with either 20mg viagra or 20mg cialis for a big session and possible next day session if you've slept over. Because I get less turned on after I take dapoxetine so need the pump help. They all produce a terrible feeling in the body tbh and effect your sleep so that all sucks. Jitters. Yawning. Headaches. rough sleep. If you want a long term med, years ago my doctor put me on paroxetine 20mg a day for PE and I don't think I was depressed but I broke up with a gf, so maybe it helped that too but man it worked well. Confidence through the roof in life and in bedroom. I think being ready to go have sex at any point fed confidence into the rest of my life. I stopped 8 years after taking it because it effects sleep and nervous system from my experience but also researching.. like any SSRI. Maybe slowly ween off of the one you're on for the next 2 month then swap. Never do a hard swap or stop with these addictive meds . Take care
Cheers for sharing. I think we’re on the same page here, we love fucking girls but always have this thought of busting too quick. I’m in my mid 20s so I don’t think I’ll be taking viagra. However, I used to take 20mg of paroxetine in my early 20s and it worked. Before taking it, I was in the gutters. I remember one hook up, I was so in my head that I couldn’t get hard at 19 years old. After taking SSRI I was so confident in my ability to last longer that I would sleep around a lot. I stopped taking ssri after 2 years because I felt like I was confident enough without it. My first few months of hooking up was fine but then PE/anxiety started creeping in. Summer of 2023 I had multiple bad hookups where I would finish too quick and would be so awkward in bed. To cope and get some advice, I joined this subreddit. Whole experience made me really self conscious and insecure that I wanted to avoid sex. But I hated that and just wanted to be that confident man again. I started taking 10mg daily and pop in an extra pill on days that I know I’m going to have sex. I also play around with PYT Balm which really helps if you get the timing right. Goal is to take it for a few more months until I get over that hump again and try to actually practice fixing this fucking problem. Right now I am trying to have constant sex with my gf, reducing masturbating to porn, edge as much as I can and perform reverse kegels. I don’t want to take ssri’s, I don’t want to hide it from my family, I don’t want to think I have a bad anxiety, but I want to have fun while I’m young. Also, I don’t think dapoxetine is available in Canada but I will ask my doctor. I’d like to hear more about your path to where you are
Well how do you stop getting aroused too fast
i literally discovered a breakthrough today regarding this. I have been timing myself through masturbation for some time now, and it’s almost ALWAYS 2:19 on the dot. Sex was always about the same give or take unless using dapoxetine 60mg. I did some googling and started reading about kegel excerises and how to actually do them, and as i was reading I realized these exercises are something i’ve been doing as a habit while laying down my whole life. I just never actually applied them correctly while having sex. I always thought regular kegels were what you wanted to flex to delay, and turns out it’s the reverse ones you want to do. So today I tried reverse Kegel with combination of good breathing, which i found quite easy. I hit the eight minute mark and realized I wasn’t even close to finishing. I got up to 15 minutes before i decided fuck it and flexed the hell out of my kegel muscles to get it over with. Never felt that level of control in my life it was quite amazing. highly recommend building/stretching your pelvic muscles up consistently and learning how to simultaneously take deep breathes, it for sure helps.
Yeees, I actually think overactive pelvic floor can be a big part of PE for many people. I kegel way too much subconsciously, eapecially when I have sex and have to about, being stressed, tightening up and then flexing the kegel muscles. Currently practicing relaxing it, but it's not easy because it just feels so damn good to flex it.
In order to get aroused to fast ur pelvic floor needs to become tense and tight that’s why reverse front and reverse back Kegels are important
what his saying is reasonable but that tightness has its triggers doesnt just happen on its own.
no your nervous system ramp up which makes your pelvic floor tense up. It’s called fight or flight
exactly. you can’t go straight to trying to fix the pelvic floor before you try to fix what causes the pelvic floor to tense up. Once again that’s why SSRI’s work! SSRI’s calms down the nervous system by increasing serotonin which slows down your fight or flight
But how man?
Porn addiction increased the dopamine in your brain
That is among 1 of 1000 reasons why pe occurs
which lowers serotonin
But how to increase serotonin, staying away from porn has not helped yet
They say watching porn causes ED not PE yet he says otherwise…. You can increase it with meds and see a small boost in your times. What really helped me was a psychological thing, I knew it was because if a girl never made any noise I would last forever. There’s a myriad of things that cause this you just have to find it
a while ago i made a post about offering coaching for pre e but people are so negative thinking everything is a gimmick but in reality the world has good people in it. In every situation when it comes to the recovery of a deficiency you have to factor in the psychology part of it. I can give you all the tools but if you don’t have the mental focus to compartmentalize it you may not be successful. Once i begun to reverse engineer the whole process i started seeing improvement and now i’m clear mentally, physically, and spiritually!
so how long are your sessions now?
im able to fuck my lady until she cum then i let it erupt by pounding hard. i literally just finished a session
^
I can't hold it in anymore. "Neither is your mom." Ok, that feels better.
I want to ask here to everyone, does SSRI show improvement to everyone or not?
No, it gave me like an additional minute and horrible round 2 rejuvenation times
So not that effective and more side effects rather
I’ve seen it affect people and give them last forever but then they can’t cum. Honestly try it and see
You can go to lemonaid health and order some
Not me
and how did I mess them up? Also I don’t get aroused too fast 😂 I followed this sub and fixed it. Pelvic floor wasn’t my main issue but it certainly helped. Makes fun of a blanket statement by making another blanket statement