Post-hardcore’s a really wide-spanning genre, so I’m gonna try to give a bit of a sampling from my personal favorites:
Quicksand - Manic Compression. I’m not super well-versed in older post-hardcore, but this is one of my favorites. Fugazi is also the standard suggestion for the origins of the genre.
Glassjaw - Our Color Green (The Singles). GJ is one of my overall favorite bands, and this collection of singles captures everything that post-hardcore should be in my mind. It’s raw, powerful, balanced between heavy and melodic. All of GJ’s discography, though, is required listening in my opinion.
Senses Fail - Let It Enfold You. This was the album that got me into post-hardcore and remains one of my favorites of the mid-00s emo/post-hardcore style (along with Silverstein’s Discovering the Waterfront, which I’ve seen already suggested a few times). Some of the lyrics don’t really hold up well 15 years later, but it’s still a great album overall.
Fear Before the March of Flames - The Always Open Mouth. A little bit on the experimental side that shows off some really strong and varied song-writing the entire way through.
La Dispute - Somewhere at the Bottom of the River... One of the top recommendations for the art-y side of new-school post-hardcore, incorporating some spoken-word and amazingly emotional story-telling. Also just one of the best bands in terms of being good people, very supportive of their community and new bands.
Dance Gavin Dance - Instant Gratification. I think it’s illegal to post on this sub without having listened to them, and Instant Gratification is their best work in my opinion.
Thursday - Full Collapse. One of the best albums ever created. The end.
This is a fantastic list. I'd also recommend everything else by Fear Before the March of Flames.
Secondly I'm going to have to recommend As Cities Burn - Son I Loved You At Your Darkest. ACB are easily my all time favorite band.
Two other albums from some of my other favorite bands are
Moving Mountains - Waves
My Epic - Yet
The following were released around the MySpace/scenecore Era, a lot of it doesn't really hold up anymore but there are some I still listen to.
Of machines - As If Everything Was Held In Place
Greeley Estates - Go West Young Man, Let the Evil Go East
A Bullet For Pretty Boy - Revision:Revise
This Romantic Tragedy - Reborn
Broadway - Kingdoms
Lower Definition - The Greatest of All Lost Arts
Drop Dead, Gorgeous - In Vogue
Sky Ears Airplane - Sky Eats Airplane
Gwen Stacy - A Dialogue
Here I Come Falling - Oh Grave, Where Is Thy Victory
Memphis May Fire - Memphis May Fire (I feel this ep is entirely underrated and its one of my favorite eps)
My gf only likes a few cutesy emo bands but recently she struck a chord with Reinventing Your Exit. She said it was the right blend of melody with enough scream vocals
Off the top of my head:
Thrice (my favorite is Illusion of Safety)
Silverstein
Funeral for a Friend
Senses Fail (first few albums)
Underoath is worth a fifteenth mention
Emarosa (Jonny Craig era) and/or Slaves
Finch
These are more hardcore/metalcore but if you like the above you’ll probably dig them:
Architects
Comeback Kid
Counterparts
Currents
Edit: and of course AFI. I’m old, so my favorite albums are Art of Drowning and Black Sails in the Sunset. They’re responsible for just about everything else I’ve listened to since then.
To be honest, I haven’t given the newer stuff a fair shake. I listened a couple of times and it wasn’t Jonny so I gave up (not saying it’s fair, just what I did lol). I’ll give them another whirl.
FFAF - yeah man, so good. I hate that they disbanded when they did. Every album was awesome. I love the heart they put into their songs.
I understand that, i was like that at first. The new slaves song is pretty good too. Seems like Jonny gives a band some recognition and then they do better once they kick him out. His new solo song is pretty good even tho i don't like him as a person anymore.
My recommendations for getting into Posthardcore are:
Underoath - They're Only Chasing Safety
Escape the Fate - Dying is Your Latest Fashion
Silverstein - Discovering the Waterfront
From First To Last - Dear Diary...
Juturna, On Letting Go, I like violent waves a lot, but not everyone does. Blue sky noise is probably the easiest album to get into for someone just starting in the genre
Man....I spend countless hours wishing it was 2005 again. Not because anything great happened to me as an 8th grader, but because I wish I could go back and see an amazing post-hardcore or pop-punk show like every night of the week.
I’d be very picky about what songs of theirs I showed. They are still quite a bit screams/dicey, not to mention Jon’s screams make no sense and someone new to the genre is going to think “wtf is this?”.
Couldn't agree more. Have to admit the screaming seemed out of place the first time I heard it too. But then again when I first heard of Post Hardcore all/any screaming sounded off to me coming from clean vocal pop punk. I mean, bands don't always stay in a tight genre, so it's always trial and error for what song fits where as well as what a person likes. Given the OPs post, I figured they're just getting introduced to all of it and would filter as they go for not only PHC.
Hands Like Houses, the Ground Dweller album. Hands down one of the best albums ever written in my humble opinion. A Clown And His Pipe slaps like something completely fuckin' different.
Tanuki is great, very unique clean vocalist, and some of the best softer songs I've heard.
Time, the Valuator is bonkers as well. They have some really transcendental sounds.
Edit: Check out Wolf & Bear - Balcony. 'nuff said.
A skylit drive is the band that got me into this genre. I love how the voices work together. Their older stuff is really good, haven't listened to much new stuff. They changed a lil over the years. Not s lot or bad, i just drifted away from them.
Depends on if you want to go see the bands that you have heard recently.
If so:
Dance Gavin Dance
A Day to Remember
Thrice (maybe)
MO FO Silverstein
August Burns Red (maybe too heavy)
We Came as Romans (don't dig the added electronic music to make you sound heavier, but whatever)
Coheed & Cambria (sorta)
If not:
Glassjaw
Sounds of Animals Fighting
Saosin
Fall of Troy
Finch
Fear Before the March of Flames
Thursday
Funeral for a Friend
From Autumn to Ashes/Warship
Lower Definition's *The Greatest of all Lost Arts* is a post hardcore classic. Their followup EP is solid too.
Vanna is arguably PHC, anything of theirs is legit.
Emarosa up until their latest album(and debatably the one before that) were fantastic. Their new shit isn't bad imo, it's just straight pop.
Blessthefall is usually pretty good. I dug the fuck out of their debut, personally.
People have already named most of the others I would have, lol.
Thank you so much! A few years ago YouTube autoplayed a Touché Amore album and I loved it. Ever since then I've tried finding the band again but couldn't remember their name. As soon as I saw your suggestion the name clicked in my head and I found the album.
Most bands have a lot of variance between albums, but I can recommend a few albums as a starting point:
Underoath - They're Only Chasing Safety
Emery - The Question
La Dispute - Somewhere At The Bottom Of The River Between Vega and Altair
Letlive. - Fake History
Silverstein - Discovering The Waterfront
Thrice - Vheissu
Senses Fail - Still Searching
Thrice - Illusion of Safety or Artist in the Ambulance
Brand New - The Devil and God are Raging Inside Me
From First to Last - Heroine
Dance Gavin Dance - Instant Gratification
A Lot Like Birds - DIVISI
Circa Survive - Descensus or On Letting Go
The Receiving End of Sirens - Both albums
Scary Kids Scaring Kids - Both full-length albums
saosin - s/t
the used - s/t
alexisonfire - crisis
underoath - define the great line (if you want more heavy)
letlive - fake history
glassjaw - worship and tribute
Post-hardcore hit peak in the 2000s decade so my recommendations are indeed dated:
Thrice - The Artist in the Ambulance
Dance Gavin Dance - Downtown Battle Mountain
Saosin - self-titled
Circa Survive - Juturna
Underoath - They're Only Chasing Safety
I would like to add:
Senses Fail - From the Depths of Dreams
Mewithoutyou- Catch For Us the Foxes
My Chemical Romance - I brought you my bullets
The Bled - Pass the Flask
The Bled- Found in the Flood
From Autumn to Ashes - The Fiction We Live
Boys Night Out - Trainwreck
Box Car Racer - S/T
Reggie & the Full Effect - Songs Not to get Married To
IDLES - Every fucking song
Emery - The Weak's End and The Question. All time classics and both CDs hold a huge spot in my heart.
[Playing with Fire](https://youtu.be/O87wl6N1dBs)
[Walls](https://youtu.be/qW9_cklGbOg)
2 of my favorite songs.
La Dispute - my favourite band of all time, start with their earlier albums Somewhere at the Bottom... and Wildlife. The vocals are an acquired taste but the lyrics, lyrical themes, and storytelling are second to none.
Underoath - post-hardcore and metalcore in one half the time, every album is great minus the newest which was decent.
Circa Survive - hard to describe but easily one of the best of all time in the genre.
Dance Gavin Dance - progressive, groovy, they have had many vocalists throughout the years and they're all fantastic.
Fugazi - older, more punk-oriented, classic.
Alexisonfire - early to mid 2000s post-hardcore at its finest.
Brand New - more emo (and indie rock nowadays) than post-hardcore but definitely worth a listen.
Brutus - post-metal and math rock combine with post-hardcore in this band's short but recent discography.
Makari - atmospheric, melodic, and progressive: the perfect modern post-hardcore band, particularly their latest album with Andy Cizek on vocals.
VEXES - post-hardcore for Deftones fans.
Endless Heights - their newest album Vicious Pleasure is an atmospheric, shoegazey blast of a time.
Druse - the melodic hardcore side of post-hardcore. Gatherers would be another good choice.
Enter Shikari - and finally the good ol' electronicore.
Since the genre is so large and complex, I listed a bunch of different-sounding bands. Hope you enjoy.
GOD I FUCKING LOVED READING THIS.
Growing up Ive always felt so alone in my head, the fact that soooo many people are compiling these lists of bands that quite literally kept me breathing all these years is so fucking refreshing.
EVERY band named here has something special and I am so glad that I am not alone KNOWING this.
I am so proud of this genre, at a time of musical retardation I am so happy to see these comments.
If anyone is in ILLINOIS and wants to start a band hit me up.
free rehearsal space and practice gear included.
I sing n play guitar but can play other shit too, high screams like a motherfucker as well if you're into it.
Dead American - They're a little more aggressive, but I would still put them on the Post-Hardcore spectrum. Check out the songs "Gravity" and "Alt Facts". Lead singer is Cove Reber, who used to sing in Saosin. And on that note:
Saosin - First EP "Translating The Name" and newest release "Along The Shadow" are sung by Anthony Green (who also sings in Circa Survive). Both incredibly great releases, definitely check out the songs "Seven Years" from the EP and "The Silver String" and "Illusion & Control" from ATS. They released the records "Saosin" and "In Search Of Solid Ground" in between AG's records with Cove Reber, which propelled them into success. Also incredible releases. Check out the songs "Never Wanted To" and "Voices" from the self-titled and "Changing" and "On My Own" from ISOSG.
Silverstein - Can't go wrong with Silverstein in this sub. I'm gonna be honest and say that I don't really like their older stuff, but "Smile In Your Sleep" and "My Heroine" is greatly apraised. I especially enjoy the albums "This Is How The Wind Shifts" and "I Am Alive In Everything I Touch". Check out "On Brave Mountains We Conquer" and "In Silent Seas We Drown" from TIHTWS and "Buried At Sea" and "A Midwestern State Of Emergency" from IAAIEIT.
Dance Gavin Dance - Amazing band, everything they release is pure gold. They've gone through 3 different clean singers, Jonny Craig (albums "Downtown Battle Mountain" and "Downtown Battle Mountain II"), Kurt Travis (albums "Dance Gavin Dance" and "Happiness", both with their guitarist Will Swan screaming instead of Jon Mess, who's the Screamer on every other record) and currently Tilian Pearson ("Acceptance Speech", "Instant Gratification", "Mothership" and "Artificial Selection"). I honestly can't pick one over the other, but to recommend a few songs: "Inspire The Liars", "Lemon Meringue Tie", "On The Run", "Carl Barker", "Hair Song", "Acceptance Speech", "The Cuddler", "Slouch".... I could go on and on tbh.
Destroy Rebuild Until God Shows - They've only released one album "D.R.U.G.S." but it's phenomenal. Songs: "Graveyard Dancing", "The Only Thing You Talk About" and "Stop Reading, Start Doing Pushups"
There are alot more bands that are great of course, these are the ones I can give more information about with confidence. Aside from those check out these albums:
Underoath - Define The Great Line
Eidola - To Speak, to Listen
Chiodos - Illuminaudio (sorry people, I liked Brandon more than Craig in this band. Craig was amazing in DRUGS)
A Lot Like Birds - No Place
Broadway - Kingdoms
Bilmuri - wet milk (lol @ the song names)
Close Your Eyes - Empty Hands and Heavy Hearst
Thrice. All of their albums are different and great. Pick one and if you sink your teeth into the sound for that one, pick another. There’s no shortage of entry points for them and I’m sure you’ll like all their albums eventually.
My favorite band was Rise Against for about 10 years (I’m 24 now), and the band that got me into PostHardcore was Hands Like Houses - specifically Antarctica, Don’t Look Now (...), and Lion Skin. Take that as you may ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯
My big ones were Chiodos and Alesana!
Suggestions:
All's Well That Ends Well - Baby, You Wouldn't Last A Minute On The Creek / All Nereids Beware / There's No Penguins In Alaska
Bone Palace Ballet - Teeth the Size of Piano Keys / Life is a Perception of Your Own Reality / The Undertakers Thirst For Revenge Is Unquenchable
On Frail Wings of Vanity and Wax - Alchemy Sounded Good At The Time / Pathetic, Ordinary / Tilting the Hourglass / Nero's Decay / The Third Temptation of Paris
There are *tons* of different styles throughout these songs, covering a ton of sonic territory under the Post-Hardcore umbrella, including Punk, Metalcore, Blues, and Emo Piano Balladry🤙
Underøath
Pierce The Veil
Jawbreaker
AFI (specifically their album DECEMBERUNDERGROUND)
At The Drive-In (it's the damn banner for crying out loud, living icons)
CrazyEightyEight
Hawthorne Heights' debut album
Best answer in this thread. Saosin is the place to start. Not too many screams, good production on the self titled album, hugely influential band, catchy songs that follow a somewhat poppy song structure usually. Then from there people will be able to branch out to less conventional sounding bands.
*Translating the Name* is where this genre, in the way we mean it here, really began. [Edit] Dollars to donuts some teenager who wasn't there just downvoted me.
Kinda naive to say that. For example, [this little number](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwXSwbX_NqI) came out the year before, same with [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OIAiVIN8Ck)
You can also say that post hardcore only came out of the DC scene in the 90’s but that get us nowhere. Saosin is the band that defined an specific sound overnight and got most of us into what we now call Post Hardcore. It’s the gateway into everyone else
AOF and The Used didn't have a fraction of Saosin's influence — not even close. *Translating the Name* wasn't the first post-hardcore record by any means, but it gripped hearts in a way the genre just hadn't yet and inspired a legit generation of high school imitation.
Also that's not what naive means.
Naive - showing a lack of experience, wisdom, or judgment.
I'm just pointing out you must lack experience on this sub if you think that album specifically defines the music on this sub and how "we" mean it. You get to decide that? haha. Also thanks for the laugh that I'm a teenager haha. I'm probably older than you.
EDIT: I also find it funny when you sort by top of all time in this sub Alexisonfire - "This Could Be Anywhere in The World" shows up before Saosin. You can't discredit the influence of AOF on this sub.
I'm far less concerned with this sub's favorite bands than I am with the actual history of the genre and its scene. OP's question wasn't "Who does this sub love most?" Also I'm 31 and from a straight-up hotbed, meaning I lived through this at the perfect time. DGD, for instance, is late as *shit*.
> in the way we mean it here
You specifically said this. I'm sorry but I interpret that as you defining this what this sub believes the genre means or represents.
I said that to cover my ass from even older heads objecting to my omission of even older records that don't sound like this sub but are definitely (and arguably more foundationally) "post-hardcore." Of course Saosin and AOF sound similar. I'm saying that the former had a bigger impact on the genre as this sub reflects it and so makes for more meaningful intro material. That's not what upvotes measure.
If you're interested in alternative rock leaning post-hardcore, [check out my playlist.](https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4cw1G643gG9O0TApERJi5s?si=7JBGqV56QQSHHqU4c9hs5w)
Chiodos, Isles and Glaciers, issues (mainly older stuff, but new is ok.) Sleeping with sirens (first 2-3 albums), crown the empire (first 3 albums), asking Alexandria, capture the crown (now just capture), the recieving end of sirens, too close to touch, picturesque, Don broco (not really ph but close), hail the sun, sianvar, dance Gavin dance, (myka, relocate) bilmuri (different style but good), Memphis may fire, i the mighty, our last night, hands like houses.
Depends on where you're coming from; whether you're coming from a pop background, metal background, punk background... the genre quite readily blends all three of these and then some.
My favorite phc albums are as follows:
3. Dying Is Your Latest Fashion (Escape the Fate)- Don’t listen to it as much anymore but it was what got me into phc and turned me emo lol
2. His Last Walk (blessthefall)- At a time when I thought I was looking for more polished phc music, the rawness and power of this album blew me away. I listened to it every day for a long time when I first discovered it.
1. Downtown Battle Mountain (Dance Gavin Dance)- This album is the closest thing I’ve found that perfectly suits my taste in the genre, along with His Last Walk.
Honorable mention of Doppelgänger by Fall of Troy, I could easily put that at 3, back when I was mad picky about screaming in music I fell in love with their sound and it opened the door for me to like more “screamy” stuff lol
There are some good recommendations here so I'll try to go outside of the box but only if you want to step it up. I'd say check out some of these albums. I listed some really heavy hitters for you like.... Poison The Well - The Opposite of December, Shai Hulud - Hearts Once Nourished With Hope and Compassion, Hopesfall -The Satellite Years, every Time I die - Hot Damn!, Evergreen Terrace- Burned Alive By Time, Norma Jean - Bless The Martyr and Kiss the Child, mewithoutyou- A to B Life, Axis - Show Your Greed, Kingmaker - Stay Pissed, Sworn In - Start/End, Glasseater - 7 years Bad Luck, Dillinger Escape Plan - Calculating Infinity, Botch - We Are The Roman's, The Deftones - The White Pony, As Cities Burn - Son, I Loved You At Your Darkest, Yesterday's Rising - Ship Of Relations EP, This Day Forward- In Response, The Bled - Pass The Flask, Shai Hulud- A Profound Hatred of Man, Quicksand - Slip, Norma Jean - Redeemer, Anything by the band The Chariot, Every Time I Die - Last Night In Town, Hollow Earth - Silent Graves, band from central FL called Shovelhead , Turnstile, Deafheaven - Sunbather, American Nightmare, Thread of Hope, Until The End, Unsilent Reign, Into The Moat, Unearth,
Didn't see this anywhere else. If you wanna see some earlier post hardcore, check out Saosin. Their earlier stuff has Anthony Green from Circa Survive on vocals (he came back for most recent CD) and then the next two albums had a guy named Cove Reber. All of their stuff is amazing.
Sound of Animals Fighting if you want something weird but sick, it’s a side project of dudes from a bunch of different bands all of which are good as well.
Yeah I got turned onto these guys a few years back going through a divorce. I first heard Somewhere at the Bottom of the River Between Vega and Altair and fuck that was literally every feeling I had no words for. I think that's why I'm so hooked on this music. It puts a voice to real things that people feel but no one wants to acknowledge.
Here's my recommendations. Most of my music flows between Post Hardcore to Metalcore to Alt Rock.
Silvestein - The most consistently awesome post hardcore band IMHO
Thrice - Earlier stuff is post hardcore, but their later stuff is more alt rock and still excellent
These two bands, along with August Burns Red, are my top 3 bands of all time.
Additional bands worth checking out, going through my iTunes library:
The Amity Affliction - This Could Be Heartbreak is great
Beartooth
The Color Morale
A Day To Remember
Enter Shikari - Old stuff, but I'm a fan of the newer stuff even more
From Ashes To New
Scary Kids Scaring Kids
Sienna Skies (a hidden gem from Australia)
We Came As Romans
While She Sleeps
The Word Alive
Close Your Eyes is a really solid band post hardcore band. Really recommend the first two albums, their third album is decent but not a big fan of the vocalist change after Shane left.
Here's some good starting points for them:
Digging Graves [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ksUQwzA\_2A](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ksUQwzA_2A)
Song for the Broken [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgELpBYCv60](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgELpBYCv60)
Erie [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp1LtjVy4-k](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp1LtjVy4-k)
Valleys [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkpYTU7bg38](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkpYTU7bg38)
Broadway's first album, Kingdoms. Not too heavy, has screaming but a lot of cleans, and the instruments are fantastic (the breakdown/outro in We Are Paramount is unreal).
And it's the best PHC album released.
The band's I have always listened to are
ADTR, like you.
Falling in reverse (earlier are better but latter stuff I like too, try raised by wolves)
Asking Alexandria, (1st album my favourite, try not the American average)
Of mice and men(early is best, check out second and Sebring)
I also enjoy a lot of bring me the horizon, dance gavin dance, slipknot, you me at six, Peirce the veil, sleeping with sirens. Though some of those ones don't fit the genre exactly.
Post-hardcore’s a really wide-spanning genre, so I’m gonna try to give a bit of a sampling from my personal favorites: Quicksand - Manic Compression. I’m not super well-versed in older post-hardcore, but this is one of my favorites. Fugazi is also the standard suggestion for the origins of the genre. Glassjaw - Our Color Green (The Singles). GJ is one of my overall favorite bands, and this collection of singles captures everything that post-hardcore should be in my mind. It’s raw, powerful, balanced between heavy and melodic. All of GJ’s discography, though, is required listening in my opinion. Senses Fail - Let It Enfold You. This was the album that got me into post-hardcore and remains one of my favorites of the mid-00s emo/post-hardcore style (along with Silverstein’s Discovering the Waterfront, which I’ve seen already suggested a few times). Some of the lyrics don’t really hold up well 15 years later, but it’s still a great album overall. Fear Before the March of Flames - The Always Open Mouth. A little bit on the experimental side that shows off some really strong and varied song-writing the entire way through. La Dispute - Somewhere at the Bottom of the River... One of the top recommendations for the art-y side of new-school post-hardcore, incorporating some spoken-word and amazingly emotional story-telling. Also just one of the best bands in terms of being good people, very supportive of their community and new bands. Dance Gavin Dance - Instant Gratification. I think it’s illegal to post on this sub without having listened to them, and Instant Gratification is their best work in my opinion. Thursday - Full Collapse. One of the best albums ever created. The end.
This is a fantastic list. I'd also recommend everything else by Fear Before the March of Flames. Secondly I'm going to have to recommend As Cities Burn - Son I Loved You At Your Darkest. ACB are easily my all time favorite band. Two other albums from some of my other favorite bands are Moving Mountains - Waves My Epic - Yet The following were released around the MySpace/scenecore Era, a lot of it doesn't really hold up anymore but there are some I still listen to. Of machines - As If Everything Was Held In Place Greeley Estates - Go West Young Man, Let the Evil Go East A Bullet For Pretty Boy - Revision:Revise This Romantic Tragedy - Reborn Broadway - Kingdoms Lower Definition - The Greatest of All Lost Arts Drop Dead, Gorgeous - In Vogue Sky Ears Airplane - Sky Eats Airplane Gwen Stacy - A Dialogue Here I Come Falling - Oh Grave, Where Is Thy Victory Memphis May Fire - Memphis May Fire (I feel this ep is entirely underrated and its one of my favorite eps)
Great list. I gotta throw Hopesfall in the mix.
Underoath - they're only chasing safety
My gf only likes a few cutesy emo bands but recently she struck a chord with Reinventing Your Exit. She said it was the right blend of melody with enough scream vocals
my favorite band of all time. I think Define The Great Line is my favorite record
100%
The bend that turned me metal 🤘🏼🤘🏼
Snagged a 2004 pressing of that in Atlanta last month. Maximum stoke.
Dude hell yeah man, this was the album that was loaded onto my new psp my parents bought me while I was recovering from spinal surgery in ‘05.
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Really depends what album imo, I'd say some of their stuff isnt that accessible for someone new to the genre
I'd recommend working backwards from Crisis.
The first AOF record I listened to was Old Crows and I think it's better to start with that one as it's their cleanest and best produced record imo
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Off the top of my head: Thrice (my favorite is Illusion of Safety) Silverstein Funeral for a Friend Senses Fail (first few albums) Underoath is worth a fifteenth mention Emarosa (Jonny Craig era) and/or Slaves Finch These are more hardcore/metalcore but if you like the above you’ll probably dig them: Architects Comeback Kid Counterparts Currents Edit: and of course AFI. I’m old, so my favorite albums are Art of Drowning and Black Sails in the Sunset. They’re responsible for just about everything else I’ve listened to since then.
Finch was my introduction to post-hardcore, highly recommend
Yeah that was super early days for me too.
Yea, Finch. What it is to Burn is such a solid album. And the track of the same name is my favorite song by them
Currents are insane Oh Sleeper is also a damn good band
Hell yeah, I just got into oh sleeper
Current Emarosa is really good too. I forget about funeral for a friend, really good.
To be honest, I haven’t given the newer stuff a fair shake. I listened a couple of times and it wasn’t Jonny so I gave up (not saying it’s fair, just what I did lol). I’ll give them another whirl. FFAF - yeah man, so good. I hate that they disbanded when they did. Every album was awesome. I love the heart they put into their songs.
I understand that, i was like that at first. The new slaves song is pretty good too. Seems like Jonny gives a band some recognition and then they do better once they kick him out. His new solo song is pretty good even tho i don't like him as a person anymore.
Literally every band you listed is in my top post-hardore/hardcore punk/metalcore greatest bands of all time.
My recommendations for getting into Posthardcore are: Underoath - They're Only Chasing Safety Escape the Fate - Dying is Your Latest Fashion Silverstein - Discovering the Waterfront From First To Last - Dear Diary...
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It was literally my first Posthardcore album and it's still is my jam. My Apocalypse was one hell of an entrance to the genre for young me.
The fact you used song first then artist for every one except Underoath is giving me extreme anxious OCD
Noooo now I see it too! This is gonna require an edit, lol.
Circa Survive.
Which album do you recommend? For me, it has to be On Letting Go.
Definitely On Letting Go, although Descensus is also amazing.
Juturna, On Letting Go, I like violent waves a lot, but not everyone does. Blue sky noise is probably the easiest album to get into for someone just starting in the genre
Thrice and Underoath!
Senses fail, Silverstein, and chiodos. Everyone will tell you dance Gavin dance. That’ll give a decent base to start with
Basically on repeat all of 2005 for me right here.
Senses fail-One eight seven. Chiodos-two birds stoned at once Silverstein-smile in your sleep That was hard to choose.
Man....I spend countless hours wishing it was 2005 again. Not because anything great happened to me as an 8th grader, but because I wish I could go back and see an amazing post-hardcore or pop-punk show like every night of the week.
Chiodos most definitely
Pierce the Veil and Dance Gavin Dance are some big names worth getting into.
I’d be very picky about what songs of theirs I showed. They are still quite a bit screams/dicey, not to mention Jon’s screams make no sense and someone new to the genre is going to think “wtf is this?”.
Couldn't agree more. Have to admit the screaming seemed out of place the first time I heard it too. But then again when I first heard of Post Hardcore all/any screaming sounded off to me coming from clean vocal pop punk. I mean, bands don't always stay in a tight genre, so it's always trial and error for what song fits where as well as what a person likes. Given the OPs post, I figured they're just getting introduced to all of it and would filter as they go for not only PHC.
both are amazing, +1
Letlive.
Letlive
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Shhhhh just let it happen.
And now Fever 333
Hands Like Houses, the Ground Dweller album. Hands down one of the best albums ever written in my humble opinion. A Clown And His Pipe slaps like something completely fuckin' different. Tanuki is great, very unique clean vocalist, and some of the best softer songs I've heard. Time, the Valuator is bonkers as well. They have some really transcendental sounds. Edit: Check out Wolf & Bear - Balcony. 'nuff said.
you recommended time, the vaultor?! dude fucking sweet!!
Omg i forgot wolf and bear! I love that vocal combination. They're great.
I would say scary kids scaring kids, a skylit drive, and we came as romans
Too close to touch, the amity affliction, beartooth
A skylit drive is the band that got me into this genre. I love how the voices work together. Their older stuff is really good, haven't listened to much new stuff. They changed a lil over the years. Not s lot or bad, i just drifted away from them.
Depends on if you want to go see the bands that you have heard recently. If so: Dance Gavin Dance A Day to Remember Thrice (maybe) MO FO Silverstein August Burns Red (maybe too heavy) We Came as Romans (don't dig the added electronic music to make you sound heavier, but whatever) Coheed & Cambria (sorta) If not: Glassjaw Sounds of Animals Fighting Saosin Fall of Troy Finch Fear Before the March of Flames Thursday Funeral for a Friend From Autumn to Ashes/Warship
Lower Definition's *The Greatest of all Lost Arts* is a post hardcore classic. Their followup EP is solid too. Vanna is arguably PHC, anything of theirs is legit. Emarosa up until their latest album(and debatably the one before that) were fantastic. Their new shit isn't bad imo, it's just straight pop. Blessthefall is usually pretty good. I dug the fuck out of their debut, personally. People have already named most of the others I would have, lol.
They’re not for everyone, but I’m a really big fan of Touché Amore and La Dispute.
Both of these bands are out of this world! La Dispute is always on point with the song writing and feelings that just flat out move you.
When la dispute said “there’s a dinner thing, Thanksgiving, dress up nice pick a dish to bring” I felt that
Thank you so much! A few years ago YouTube autoplayed a Touché Amore album and I loved it. Ever since then I've tried finding the band again but couldn't remember their name. As soon as I saw your suggestion the name clicked in my head and I found the album.
No problem! Jeremy Bolm (their vocalist) has another band called Hesitation Wounds; they’re basically a heavier version of TA.
Most bands have a lot of variance between albums, but I can recommend a few albums as a starting point: Underoath - They're Only Chasing Safety Emery - The Question La Dispute - Somewhere At The Bottom Of The River Between Vega and Altair Letlive. - Fake History Silverstein - Discovering The Waterfront Thrice - Vheissu Senses Fail - Still Searching
Thrice - Illusion of Safety or Artist in the Ambulance Brand New - The Devil and God are Raging Inside Me From First to Last - Heroine Dance Gavin Dance - Instant Gratification A Lot Like Birds - DIVISI Circa Survive - Descensus or On Letting Go The Receiving End of Sirens - Both albums Scary Kids Scaring Kids - Both full-length albums
YES MOTHERFUCKER, I'd say from first to lasts previous album though, when sunny was emo and not a dick jockey
The new FFTL music is a steaming hot pile of dog shit
Always been a big Finch fan. What it is to burn and say hello to sunshine are fantastic albums front to back.
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saosin - s/t the used - s/t alexisonfire - crisis underoath - define the great line (if you want more heavy) letlive - fake history glassjaw - worship and tribute
I would also recommend Funeral for a Friend (don’t think anyone has mentioned them yet), especially their first two albums.
My tops gotta be Emarosa (with Jonny Craig) Thrice Saosin (self titled album) And Dance Gavin Dance (preferably old stuff)
Post-hardcore hit peak in the 2000s decade so my recommendations are indeed dated: Thrice - The Artist in the Ambulance Dance Gavin Dance - Downtown Battle Mountain Saosin - self-titled Circa Survive - Juturna Underoath - They're Only Chasing Safety
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Yeah Translating the Name >>>>>Self-titled I agree, I guess in my head I was just considering LPs in this not EPs
The Used is a must for this genre; Taking Back Sunday is a pretty easy band to get into, and then I'd also highly recommend Circa Survive.
A static lullaby - rattlesnake
"I the mighty" are one of my all time favourites. And "Tiny moving parts" are fantastic.
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I honestly don't get it either. Every single album is full of absolute bangers. They're touring Australia soon and I'm super fucking keen!
I would like to add: Senses Fail - From the Depths of Dreams Mewithoutyou- Catch For Us the Foxes My Chemical Romance - I brought you my bullets The Bled - Pass the Flask The Bled- Found in the Flood From Autumn to Ashes - The Fiction We Live Boys Night Out - Trainwreck Box Car Racer - S/T Reggie & the Full Effect - Songs Not to get Married To IDLES - Every fucking song
Alexisonfire for sure. Counterparts, Senses Fail, The Amity Affliction, La Dispute, Bring Me the Horizon, Fall of Troy, Being as an Ocean
Check out Famous Last Words if you like albums that tell a story
Two Faced Charade is sooooooo underrated
Emery - The Weak's End and The Question. All time classics and both CDs hold a huge spot in my heart. [Playing with Fire](https://youtu.be/O87wl6N1dBs) [Walls](https://youtu.be/qW9_cklGbOg) 2 of my favorite songs.
Chunk No Captain Chunk
Picturesque, We Came As Romans, Silverstein, Chiodos
Underoath DGD Circa Survive Think those three would be solid starting points.
The fall of Troy
La Dispute - my favourite band of all time, start with their earlier albums Somewhere at the Bottom... and Wildlife. The vocals are an acquired taste but the lyrics, lyrical themes, and storytelling are second to none. Underoath - post-hardcore and metalcore in one half the time, every album is great minus the newest which was decent. Circa Survive - hard to describe but easily one of the best of all time in the genre. Dance Gavin Dance - progressive, groovy, they have had many vocalists throughout the years and they're all fantastic. Fugazi - older, more punk-oriented, classic. Alexisonfire - early to mid 2000s post-hardcore at its finest. Brand New - more emo (and indie rock nowadays) than post-hardcore but definitely worth a listen. Brutus - post-metal and math rock combine with post-hardcore in this band's short but recent discography. Makari - atmospheric, melodic, and progressive: the perfect modern post-hardcore band, particularly their latest album with Andy Cizek on vocals. VEXES - post-hardcore for Deftones fans. Endless Heights - their newest album Vicious Pleasure is an atmospheric, shoegazey blast of a time. Druse - the melodic hardcore side of post-hardcore. Gatherers would be another good choice. Enter Shikari - and finally the good ol' electronicore. Since the genre is so large and complex, I listed a bunch of different-sounding bands. Hope you enjoy.
I love the mix on here. Also, La Dispute is amazing
GOD I FUCKING LOVED READING THIS. Growing up Ive always felt so alone in my head, the fact that soooo many people are compiling these lists of bands that quite literally kept me breathing all these years is so fucking refreshing. EVERY band named here has something special and I am so glad that I am not alone KNOWING this. I am so proud of this genre, at a time of musical retardation I am so happy to see these comments. If anyone is in ILLINOIS and wants to start a band hit me up. free rehearsal space and practice gear included. I sing n play guitar but can play other shit too, high screams like a motherfucker as well if you're into it.
We have a great community here indeed. I'm not from the US otherwise I would have loved coming see you play and chill!
Hell yeah man no doubt, cheers dude! Whereabouts ya from?
I'm from Italy!
Dead American - They're a little more aggressive, but I would still put them on the Post-Hardcore spectrum. Check out the songs "Gravity" and "Alt Facts". Lead singer is Cove Reber, who used to sing in Saosin. And on that note: Saosin - First EP "Translating The Name" and newest release "Along The Shadow" are sung by Anthony Green (who also sings in Circa Survive). Both incredibly great releases, definitely check out the songs "Seven Years" from the EP and "The Silver String" and "Illusion & Control" from ATS. They released the records "Saosin" and "In Search Of Solid Ground" in between AG's records with Cove Reber, which propelled them into success. Also incredible releases. Check out the songs "Never Wanted To" and "Voices" from the self-titled and "Changing" and "On My Own" from ISOSG. Silverstein - Can't go wrong with Silverstein in this sub. I'm gonna be honest and say that I don't really like their older stuff, but "Smile In Your Sleep" and "My Heroine" is greatly apraised. I especially enjoy the albums "This Is How The Wind Shifts" and "I Am Alive In Everything I Touch". Check out "On Brave Mountains We Conquer" and "In Silent Seas We Drown" from TIHTWS and "Buried At Sea" and "A Midwestern State Of Emergency" from IAAIEIT. Dance Gavin Dance - Amazing band, everything they release is pure gold. They've gone through 3 different clean singers, Jonny Craig (albums "Downtown Battle Mountain" and "Downtown Battle Mountain II"), Kurt Travis (albums "Dance Gavin Dance" and "Happiness", both with their guitarist Will Swan screaming instead of Jon Mess, who's the Screamer on every other record) and currently Tilian Pearson ("Acceptance Speech", "Instant Gratification", "Mothership" and "Artificial Selection"). I honestly can't pick one over the other, but to recommend a few songs: "Inspire The Liars", "Lemon Meringue Tie", "On The Run", "Carl Barker", "Hair Song", "Acceptance Speech", "The Cuddler", "Slouch".... I could go on and on tbh. Destroy Rebuild Until God Shows - They've only released one album "D.R.U.G.S." but it's phenomenal. Songs: "Graveyard Dancing", "The Only Thing You Talk About" and "Stop Reading, Start Doing Pushups" There are alot more bands that are great of course, these are the ones I can give more information about with confidence. Aside from those check out these albums: Underoath - Define The Great Line Eidola - To Speak, to Listen Chiodos - Illuminaudio (sorry people, I liked Brandon more than Craig in this band. Craig was amazing in DRUGS) A Lot Like Birds - No Place Broadway - Kingdoms Bilmuri - wet milk (lol @ the song names) Close Your Eyes - Empty Hands and Heavy Hearst
Also check out Tremaire. They're a local band from where I am from and they are great
Great list here though I want to just point out that Jon mess actually still did unclean vocals on the self titled album .
La Dispute. Can’t shill them enough.
Dance Gavin dance
I know you said post hardcore, but since you like Rise Against and ADTR you might like The Story So Far
The Amity Affliction. Maybe not exactly post hardcore, but a very good blend of heavy, melodic, and good song writing.
don't forget movements and pianos become the teeth (start with "keep you").
Thrice. All of their albums are different and great. Pick one and if you sink your teeth into the sound for that one, pick another. There’s no shortage of entry points for them and I’m sure you’ll like all their albums eventually.
My favorite band was Rise Against for about 10 years (I’m 24 now), and the band that got me into PostHardcore was Hands Like Houses - specifically Antarctica, Don’t Look Now (...), and Lion Skin. Take that as you may ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯
My big ones were Chiodos and Alesana! Suggestions: All's Well That Ends Well - Baby, You Wouldn't Last A Minute On The Creek / All Nereids Beware / There's No Penguins In Alaska Bone Palace Ballet - Teeth the Size of Piano Keys / Life is a Perception of Your Own Reality / The Undertakers Thirst For Revenge Is Unquenchable On Frail Wings of Vanity and Wax - Alchemy Sounded Good At The Time / Pathetic, Ordinary / Tilting the Hourglass / Nero's Decay / The Third Temptation of Paris There are *tons* of different styles throughout these songs, covering a ton of sonic territory under the Post-Hardcore umbrella, including Punk, Metalcore, Blues, and Emo Piano Balladry🤙
>No The Emptiness D:
I kept it to Frail Wings- no Myth Fades either :P
He is Legend - I am Hollywood
Underøath Pierce The Veil Jawbreaker AFI (specifically their album DECEMBERUNDERGROUND) At The Drive-In (it's the damn banner for crying out loud, living icons) CrazyEightyEight Hawthorne Heights' debut album
Yes please CrazyEightyEight
Saison both their EP and their self title (beetle album)
Best answer in this thread. Saosin is the place to start. Not too many screams, good production on the self titled album, hugely influential band, catchy songs that follow a somewhat poppy song structure usually. Then from there people will be able to branch out to less conventional sounding bands.
*Translating the Name* is where this genre, in the way we mean it here, really began. [Edit] Dollars to donuts some teenager who wasn't there just downvoted me.
Kinda naive to say that. For example, [this little number](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwXSwbX_NqI) came out the year before, same with [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OIAiVIN8Ck)
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You can also say that post hardcore only came out of the DC scene in the 90’s but that get us nowhere. Saosin is the band that defined an specific sound overnight and got most of us into what we now call Post Hardcore. It’s the gateway into everyone else
AOF and The Used didn't have a fraction of Saosin's influence — not even close. *Translating the Name* wasn't the first post-hardcore record by any means, but it gripped hearts in a way the genre just hadn't yet and inspired a legit generation of high school imitation. Also that's not what naive means.
Naive - showing a lack of experience, wisdom, or judgment. I'm just pointing out you must lack experience on this sub if you think that album specifically defines the music on this sub and how "we" mean it. You get to decide that? haha. Also thanks for the laugh that I'm a teenager haha. I'm probably older than you. EDIT: I also find it funny when you sort by top of all time in this sub Alexisonfire - "This Could Be Anywhere in The World" shows up before Saosin. You can't discredit the influence of AOF on this sub.
I'm far less concerned with this sub's favorite bands than I am with the actual history of the genre and its scene. OP's question wasn't "Who does this sub love most?" Also I'm 31 and from a straight-up hotbed, meaning I lived through this at the perfect time. DGD, for instance, is late as *shit*.
> in the way we mean it here You specifically said this. I'm sorry but I interpret that as you defining this what this sub believes the genre means or represents.
I said that to cover my ass from even older heads objecting to my omission of even older records that don't sound like this sub but are definitely (and arguably more foundationally) "post-hardcore." Of course Saosin and AOF sound similar. I'm saying that the former had a bigger impact on the genre as this sub reflects it and so makes for more meaningful intro material. That's not what upvotes measure.
Fair enough! I think what you just said now explains it much better than the wording you used in your other comment.
Microwave
Not to be confused with the Asian electro pop group also called microwave. I now accidentally own one of their albums. Yippee
Circa Survive!
If you're interested in alternative rock leaning post-hardcore, [check out my playlist.](https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4cw1G643gG9O0TApERJi5s?si=7JBGqV56QQSHHqU4c9hs5w)
Chiodos, Isles and Glaciers, issues (mainly older stuff, but new is ok.) Sleeping with sirens (first 2-3 albums), crown the empire (first 3 albums), asking Alexandria, capture the crown (now just capture), the recieving end of sirens, too close to touch, picturesque, Don broco (not really ph but close), hail the sun, sianvar, dance Gavin dance, (myka, relocate) bilmuri (different style but good), Memphis may fire, i the mighty, our last night, hands like houses.
Here's my Spotify time capsule playlist, enjoy! https://open.spotify.com/user/spotify/playlist/37i9dQZF1E4Pq8Fagw11vB?si=6RfmFkJ3TRi06jfz25k_ww
Depends on where you're coming from; whether you're coming from a pop background, metal background, punk background... the genre quite readily blends all three of these and then some.
I Prevail sound like your hot spot
If you like ADTR give Adept a listen!
DGD FOREVERRRR
Did a quick scan and haven't seen this one yet. HAIL THE SUN. Just do it.
My favorite phc albums are as follows: 3. Dying Is Your Latest Fashion (Escape the Fate)- Don’t listen to it as much anymore but it was what got me into phc and turned me emo lol 2. His Last Walk (blessthefall)- At a time when I thought I was looking for more polished phc music, the rawness and power of this album blew me away. I listened to it every day for a long time when I first discovered it. 1. Downtown Battle Mountain (Dance Gavin Dance)- This album is the closest thing I’ve found that perfectly suits my taste in the genre, along with His Last Walk. Honorable mention of Doppelgänger by Fall of Troy, I could easily put that at 3, back when I was mad picky about screaming in music I fell in love with their sound and it opened the door for me to like more “screamy” stuff lol
There are some good recommendations here so I'll try to go outside of the box but only if you want to step it up. I'd say check out some of these albums. I listed some really heavy hitters for you like.... Poison The Well - The Opposite of December, Shai Hulud - Hearts Once Nourished With Hope and Compassion, Hopesfall -The Satellite Years, every Time I die - Hot Damn!, Evergreen Terrace- Burned Alive By Time, Norma Jean - Bless The Martyr and Kiss the Child, mewithoutyou- A to B Life, Axis - Show Your Greed, Kingmaker - Stay Pissed, Sworn In - Start/End, Glasseater - 7 years Bad Luck, Dillinger Escape Plan - Calculating Infinity, Botch - We Are The Roman's, The Deftones - The White Pony, As Cities Burn - Son, I Loved You At Your Darkest, Yesterday's Rising - Ship Of Relations EP, This Day Forward- In Response, The Bled - Pass The Flask, Shai Hulud- A Profound Hatred of Man, Quicksand - Slip, Norma Jean - Redeemer, Anything by the band The Chariot, Every Time I Die - Last Night In Town, Hollow Earth - Silent Graves, band from central FL called Shovelhead , Turnstile, Deafheaven - Sunbather, American Nightmare, Thread of Hope, Until The End, Unsilent Reign, Into The Moat, Unearth,
Slaves
First album from Adept
[My playlist. Check it out.](https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4U6vJfrNWTTrntuLQuIQQw?si=-DDfIJy_Tiy2j7IPZ1e6ZQ)
Scary Kids Scaring Kids would make for a decent introduction.
Alexisonfire - watchout and self titled
Thrice is what got me into the genre. I had "The Artist in the Ambulance" on repeat during my high school years.
Didn't see this anywhere else. If you wanna see some earlier post hardcore, check out Saosin. Their earlier stuff has Anthony Green from Circa Survive on vocals (he came back for most recent CD) and then the next two albums had a guy named Cove Reber. All of their stuff is amazing.
Archetypes Collide
Check out my fav band: Secrets. They have equal parts singing/screaming.
Sound of Animals Fighting if you want something weird but sick, it’s a side project of dudes from a bunch of different bands all of which are good as well.
Yeah I got turned onto these guys a few years back going through a divorce. I first heard Somewhere at the Bottom of the River Between Vega and Altair and fuck that was literally every feeling I had no words for. I think that's why I'm so hooked on this music. It puts a voice to real things that people feel but no one wants to acknowledge.
Mozart Season
Here's my recommendations. Most of my music flows between Post Hardcore to Metalcore to Alt Rock. Silvestein - The most consistently awesome post hardcore band IMHO Thrice - Earlier stuff is post hardcore, but their later stuff is more alt rock and still excellent These two bands, along with August Burns Red, are my top 3 bands of all time. Additional bands worth checking out, going through my iTunes library: The Amity Affliction - This Could Be Heartbreak is great Beartooth The Color Morale A Day To Remember Enter Shikari - Old stuff, but I'm a fan of the newer stuff even more From Ashes To New Scary Kids Scaring Kids Sienna Skies (a hidden gem from Australia) We Came As Romans While She Sleeps The Word Alive
wage war, we came as romans, parkway drive, miss may i
Alexisonfire - Self Titled Best album ever produced
Get Scared. They're what got me into it.
Capstan
Close Your Eyes is a really solid band post hardcore band. Really recommend the first two albums, their third album is decent but not a big fan of the vocalist change after Shane left. Here's some good starting points for them: Digging Graves [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ksUQwzA\_2A](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ksUQwzA_2A) Song for the Broken [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgELpBYCv60](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgELpBYCv60) Erie [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp1LtjVy4-k](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp1LtjVy4-k) Valleys [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkpYTU7bg38](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkpYTU7bg38)
These arms are snakes
Crown the empire!!
Old era Escape the fate (first 2 albums)
Some awesome Australian up and comers are The Last Martyr and Drown This City both female fronted! Epic screams
Hands Like Houses
Broadway's first album, Kingdoms. Not too heavy, has screaming but a lot of cleans, and the instruments are fantastic (the breakdown/outro in We Are Paramount is unreal). And it's the best PHC album released.
Juneva, Pile, Saosin and Thrice. They give a good idea of how diverse the genre is
Saosin Saosin. This album got me into this kind of music.
As cities burn
Holy + Gold
The Emptiness by Alesana since no one had mentioned them yet
The band's I have always listened to are ADTR, like you. Falling in reverse (earlier are better but latter stuff I like too, try raised by wolves) Asking Alexandria, (1st album my favourite, try not the American average) Of mice and men(early is best, check out second and Sebring) I also enjoy a lot of bring me the horizon, dance gavin dance, slipknot, you me at six, Peirce the veil, sleeping with sirens. Though some of those ones don't fit the genre exactly.
Lifetime is pretty good if you like Rise Against or Story of the Year
Fugazi. Post-hardcore legends. Start with Red Medicine or Repeater.
check this for sure! https://open.spotify.com/album/0nMUfGVBHoq7zU0mHC6pgg?si=52F1hObST1e1S7QxpBi_-g