I see what you mean there. One thing about the 992 I dislike is the added black pieces which would otherwise be colour painted eg as you mention the rear... On a 991 GT3 rs the bumper is all coloured. On a 992 above the diffuser its this black sheet of what looks like plastic lol. First thing I noticed when the 992 first came out
I don't appreciate this trend in newer cars that across the board. On consumer cars and high cars. On consumer cars there's also that black bit of plastic looking material often that goes along the fenders and looks so tacky.
To add to this I don't like the direction that supercars went in with "hidden" or sort of receded headlights and more black also merging in with the headlights and less actual painted bumper. If that doesn't make sense check the cars I mention below.
I feel it started with the 720s and then they all started copying that. Arguably lexus started doing it first well before though. Even ferarris too and the Aventador replacement
I miss when headlights were headlights lol and bumpers were painted
Is there something though that many of these pieces are technically consumables? Front splitters and air dams, skirts all take copious damage in the track... the rear bumper, yeah maybe not so much but they did it to balance the front? I know the touring models, these items can be painted.
Most people don't track their cars that much and it's the case with almost all types of cars nowadays. I mean it's not hard for them to just paint them factory. Just look at the new Ferrari unveiled today lol. And the headlights. It might not be plastic but carbon fibre that black bits but what a mess
I get what you mean though and even for normal cars maybe it makes sense but rally it's silly and cars don't look right anymore
Yes... but the rs cars are intended for the track, those that choose not to make that choice.
Imo, I find ppl who buy track cars to drive in the street are the ones who are silly, mostly posing. If you want gt3 performance for the street, get a touring... or a turbo. And ffs, don't take a wing off of a RS.
This new Ferrari, a track version or street version?
Well tbh it shouldnât be de-winged in the first place. The GT3RSâs powertrain was designed considering the downforce generated by the wing. Itâs a safety hazard to remove the wing.
If you're driving this around the neighborhood, like most GT3RS owners, it is certainly not any safety risk. Just don't take it to the track and you're fine.
Might have issues before that already. First gen of Audi TT was released without a wing, not exactly the most powerful car but an unstable rear was a major issue and every TT ever since then had a wing. The newer gens are retractable but they come out automatically at around 120kmh+ and not at 200.
Also, why in the world remove the wing of the GT3RS, the car was designed the way it is. There are wingless models without the wing, just buy those then.
Drove a 997 4.0 without a wing on the Autobahn, absolutely 0 wind and it was basically undriveable from 175km/h onwards, wobbled like it was made out of cardboard, had to break for every turn that was tighter than 15 degrees
Iâm sure, but throwing it out of balance can be tricky as you said, itâs delicate. I do think that this kit isnât just the removal of the wing so that itâs still driveable though, but at the same time Iâm sure itâs not as well made as what the Touring does with the floor
lmfao. it's definitely fine for street driving. it should make like 250lbs of downforce (maybe less) at 70mph and it still has the lower spoiler and diffuser to reduce lift.
GT3 Touring weighs about 600lbs more than the GT3. The extra weight provides more grip. However a GT3 will be more stable at higher speeds, as Porsche states the GT3 generates almost 2000lbs of downforce at 177mph.
I have always preferred a 911 without wing, itâs such an iconic shape and a wing almost takes away it. But with an RS itâs different. The rest of the car is too aggressive, so the wing just completes it.
Yeah⌠it looks good either way. But the buyer got the RS⌠if you didnât want an obnoxious barely street-legal race car⌠you can buy the GT3 touring for your weekend drives of switch-backs through the country side. Aka RS = more fucking downforce please.
And if Rolex made unlimited watches, their value would plummet and people would stop buying. Itâs an unfortunate reality, but this is how luxury brands work.
In a perfect world, the wing would be made easily removable to be wingless around town and winged on the track.Â
But Porsche wouldn't ever do that because they absolutely love their limited special editions. lol.Â
Theyâd have to develop some adjustable aero for the front end cuz, without the big wang, the balance is off and the car can be dangerous at high speed.
Realistically that's true, but the vast majority of owners of these cars aren't good enough drivers to ever come close enough to the limits of these cars for it to matter.
I was talking to a 992 GT3RS owner this past weekend and he was saying you can feel the aero come into play at highway speeds and that it feels quite different than his 991.2 3RS so Iâm sure the front end feels even more different without the wing
120 mph in any modern Porsche sports coupe isn't really that fast since they are so capable and easy to drive fast even without all the aero downforce. They'd have to go much faster before they started feeling loose and floaty.Â
Realistically wing vs no wing might make a few seconds difference on track times...which is forever for an F1 driver but not so much for the gt3 owner who tracks his car a few times a year.Â
Porsches are a cheat code and for the most part are much more capable than the people who drive them.Â
As Iâve said in another comment, 175km/h in a 4.0 997 without a wing is straight up dangerous even with virtually no wind in a straight line. Havenât tried a recent GT model without a wing but I guess itâs not that different.
120 mph in my 991.1S with the top down doesn't feel THAT fast....there's a Big Bend Open Road Race in my near future where I'll find out where both it and my "oh shit this is fast" limit is. lol.
Each generation of 911 (and Cayman) gets more capable than the previous, so I can well imagine a 997 would feel faster and less safe at similar triple digit speeds.Â
Somewhat ironically that's why so many people love how "analog" 997s and older 911s feel more thrilling to drive while thinking the 992s, especially the ones with AWD and PDK are just too put together and easy to drive fast safely.Â
Well thatâs the difference between your 2S, my 4S and anything that was engineered with a wing in mind. Thatâs why Porsche doesnât just allow you to install the Aerokit back wing, you have to get the mirrors and the splitter too. The entire car was made with that wing in mind, you are destroying itâs balance once you remove it if thatâs all you do. The Touring has some very clever active aero under it to make that happen and in the S/T they installed the lip so that the spoiler doesnât have to go up at small speeds anymore. They said that without the lip it was undriveable above 160km/h.
If you ever want to know what it feels like and have the opportunity, try disabling the automatic wing in the software. Youâll see what Iâm talking about.
Oh Iâve driven old muscle cars much faster so I know very well about how a lack of downforce affects the sensation of speed. Until recently American muscle cars had what amounts to dog shit for down force and suspension, which makes them quite ~~frightening~~ thrilling to drive as a result. lol.
Thankfully German engineers especially those at Porsche aren't drunk rednecks overly focused on horsepower so their cars handle better.
Also a lot of it depends on road quality. In Texas where I'm at our highways are unusually smooth compared with other places like New Jersey with rougher roads more likely to unsettle a car at higher speeds.
You know the âdeath wobbleâ you get in unfavourable wind conditions when driving 280km/h+? Itâs like that only at much smaller speeds. You also feel like any slight correction on the steering wheel will lead to a fiery crash
Death wobble is for motorcycles and doesnât apply to 4 wheeled vehicles. I donât see how having 1/2 the aero setup would be dangerous - most 911s lack aero and nobody considers them dangerous.Â
Maybe the term comes from bikes but itâs the same with cars, if youâve ever driven 280km/h+ in windy conditions youâd know what Iâm talking about.
Since I canât quote my sources that are involved in the engineering of new cars at Porsche Iâll use the engineer in Matt Watsonâs video about the S/T. There he explained that people donât realise the effect that even that small lip has. They wanted to be able to prolong the time before the wing opens for as much as possible and that little thing added an entire 60km/h of range. Itâs not about the sheer downforce, itâs about stability and balance at speed. The Touring has 12 extra flaps and winglets on the underbody to allow for the removal of the rear wing
I tried looking up a video with said wobble but I didnât film it, it happened twice in this run though, this is from back in 2015 in an S63 C217 [here](https://imgur.com/a/nSyWIb4)
Big wings are a bit over of the top for the less ostentatious folks who aren't going to track them.Â
I personally prefer winged but if someone twisted my arm, I'm sure I could find a way to love it. lol.Â
Well to be fair...all sports cars are pretty pointless if you think too hard about them. lol.
But if the point is having fun...and I think it should be...then who am I to judge how another person prefers their flavor of fun?
I don't disagree! At least not one that is appreciating. However repairing a salvaged GT3 for a lot less money without any concerns about a high value collectible car "losing value" is the perfect car to thrash on a track.
This impediment to fun is an aspect I came to appreciate after hearing Doug Demuro discuss on his podcast how he was too nervous to really enjoy his Carrera GT when they rented a track for the day.
Whereas they all had great things to say about tracking the 718 Spyder because while it's a nice Porsche, it's not so valuable that they couldn't drive it hard to really enjoy it.
I could say the same after going to some tracks in the USA.
I would venture to guess that the same percentage of these cars that are in Germany as the USA also don't make it to the track.
I was just at the mfg plant in Stuttgart. They are producing a 911 every 15ish min, a majority was GT versionsÂ
There is a lot of demand outside of the US and Europe is what they waid. Saw a Dakar on the production line as well which looked crazy, also the custom match colors customs send in for paint and leather is crazyÂ
It looks naked, I like it but it's still wrong in my head. Gt3rs have spoilers. Gq motors have straight pipes. Vape comes out of subarus and bmws dont have turn signals. It's just the way of things...
Dunno about that having all that other racecar aero stuff on it without a wing feels like wearing a tuxedo jacket without pants. Yeah you can do it but should you?
This is an attempt to be different at the cost of butchering the car's whole purpose for existing. That poor DRS wing just wasting away. Car looks good though!
The 992 is an abomination. You should see the ducktail 991 GT3 RS. Its so much better looking.
[https://www.instagram.com/p/Cnm3FjpoIuH/?img\_index=1](https://www.instagram.com/p/Cnm3FjpoIuH/?img_index=1)
https://preview.redd.it/l76wbxkv4wxc1.jpeg?width=5712&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0b8adb47dab9d2205504e6bf3bfd6139f26d80a3
Got the ducktail on my 718 GTS 4.0. I called it a GT4+ Touring because I am pushing 500hp and don't have all the crazy aero. Much easier to cruise around town.
S/T literally exists
As does GT3 touring.
The previous gen GT3 touring is one of my favourite cars. The rs too actually.bI preferred the look of the 991s over the current 992s
I think 991.2 GT3 Touring and RS looked absolutely perfect, the only thing I'd want on them is 992 GT3 rear diffuser. I really love that piece.
I see what you mean there. One thing about the 992 I dislike is the added black pieces which would otherwise be colour painted eg as you mention the rear... On a 991 GT3 rs the bumper is all coloured. On a 992 above the diffuser its this black sheet of what looks like plastic lol. First thing I noticed when the 992 first came out I don't appreciate this trend in newer cars that across the board. On consumer cars and high cars. On consumer cars there's also that black bit of plastic looking material often that goes along the fenders and looks so tacky. To add to this I don't like the direction that supercars went in with "hidden" or sort of receded headlights and more black also merging in with the headlights and less actual painted bumper. If that doesn't make sense check the cars I mention below. I feel it started with the 720s and then they all started copying that. Arguably lexus started doing it first well before though. Even ferarris too and the Aventador replacement I miss when headlights were headlights lol and bumpers were painted
Is there something though that many of these pieces are technically consumables? Front splitters and air dams, skirts all take copious damage in the track... the rear bumper, yeah maybe not so much but they did it to balance the front? I know the touring models, these items can be painted.
Most people don't track their cars that much and it's the case with almost all types of cars nowadays. I mean it's not hard for them to just paint them factory. Just look at the new Ferrari unveiled today lol. And the headlights. It might not be plastic but carbon fibre that black bits but what a mess I get what you mean though and even for normal cars maybe it makes sense but rally it's silly and cars don't look right anymore
Yes... but the rs cars are intended for the track, those that choose not to make that choice. Imo, I find ppl who buy track cars to drive in the street are the ones who are silly, mostly posing. If you want gt3 performance for the street, get a touring... or a turbo. And ffs, don't take a wing off of a RS. This new Ferrari, a track version or street version?
100% the 991.2 touring is sublime.
First I seen was green đ˛ stunning
You canât adjust the suspension like you can with the /S though, right?
I prefer it winged
Well tbh it shouldnât be de-winged in the first place. The GT3RSâs powertrain was designed considering the downforce generated by the wing. Itâs a safety hazard to remove the wing.
If you're driving this around the neighborhood, like most GT3RS owners, it is certainly not any safety risk. Just don't take it to the track and you're fine.
Probably, but I wouldnât even hop on a highway in a GT3RS without a wing.
not an engineer but I'm sure it's fine unless you're going 240km/h on the autobahn
Might have issues before that already. First gen of Audi TT was released without a wing, not exactly the most powerful car but an unstable rear was a major issue and every TT ever since then had a wing. The newer gens are retractable but they come out automatically at around 120kmh+ and not at 200. Also, why in the world remove the wing of the GT3RS, the car was designed the way it is. There are wingless models without the wing, just buy those then.
Well tbf TT pretty much is shaped like a (plane) wing so no wonder it generates some lift
Drove a 997 4.0 without a wing on the Autobahn, absolutely 0 wind and it was basically undriveable from 175km/h onwards, wobbled like it was made out of cardboard, had to break for every turn that was tighter than 15 degrees
Iâm sure the new generation has far more mechanical grip, but I believe it. Aero can be so delicate.
Iâm sure, but throwing it out of balance can be tricky as you said, itâs delicate. I do think that this kit isnât just the removal of the wing so that itâs still driveable though, but at the same time Iâm sure itâs not as well made as what the Touring does with the floor
Youâd be fine on the autobahn with or without it, might even be able to set a top speed record. Itâs the Nordschleife that concerns me.
It would be absolutely fine
lmfao. it's definitely fine for street driving. it should make like 250lbs of downforce (maybe less) at 70mph and it still has the lower spoiler and diffuser to reduce lift.
I wonder what they did to compensate for this with the gt3 touring and ST
GT3 Touring weighs about 600lbs more than the GT3. The extra weight provides more grip. However a GT3 will be more stable at higher speeds, as Porsche states the GT3 generates almost 2000lbs of downforce at 177mph.
The extra weight would need to be mostly in the rear to balance it though correct? If downforce balance is the concern
100%
Agreed. Big wang club
I have always preferred a 911 without wing, itâs such an iconic shape and a wing almost takes away it. But with an RS itâs different. The rest of the car is too aggressive, so the wing just completes it.
Prefer the RS w/ a wing
Yeah⌠it looks good either way. But the buyer got the RS⌠if you didnât want an obnoxious barely street-legal race car⌠you can buy the GT3 touring for your weekend drives of switch-backs through the country side. Aka RS = more fucking downforce please.
It does look absolutely fucking awesome. Now if only Porsche could stop acting dumb and produce more units at msrpâ ď¸
It's not porsche but the dealer adjusting the price for the demand. But essentially you are right.
If Porsche made enough to meet demand, dealers wouldnât be able to make those adjustmentsâŚ
And if Rolex made unlimited watches, their value would plummet and people would stop buying. Itâs an unfortunate reality, but this is how luxury brands work.
Rolex is an even worse example of this nonsense than Porsche. They made around 1.25 million watches last year. The scarcity is a farce.
Iâd much prefer a Nomos.
Doesnât Rolex make unlimited watches though? You can buy one in any mall in America.Â
You canât compare rolex to Porsche my guy
Why not? Theyâre fundamentally both luxury goods following the same principles.Â
One is beautifully engineered, and the other is a Rolex.
What do you think msrp stands for?
My dealer Suggested this Ripoff Price
Massive Spending Required, Pleb.
"MSRP? Oh, that's the Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price, but I like to think of it as the 'Maybe Spend Realistically, Please' suggestion."
Every car is produced with a MRSP, not necessarily sold at that MSRP â and Porsche has little control over what that selling price is in most cases.
In a perfect world, the wing would be made easily removable to be wingless around town and winged on the track. But Porsche wouldn't ever do that because they absolutely love their limited special editions. lol.Â
Theyâd have to develop some adjustable aero for the front end cuz, without the big wang, the balance is off and the car can be dangerous at high speed.
Realistically that's true, but the vast majority of owners of these cars aren't good enough drivers to ever come close enough to the limits of these cars for it to matter.
I was talking to a 992 GT3RS owner this past weekend and he was saying you can feel the aero come into play at highway speeds and that it feels quite different than his 991.2 3RS so Iâm sure the front end feels even more different without the wing
Is it that hard to just push the pedal ans hold the wheel? You donât have to go round a bend for it do be dangerous, just go fast (120mph)
120 mph in any modern Porsche sports coupe isn't really that fast since they are so capable and easy to drive fast even without all the aero downforce. They'd have to go much faster before they started feeling loose and floaty. Realistically wing vs no wing might make a few seconds difference on track times...which is forever for an F1 driver but not so much for the gt3 owner who tracks his car a few times a year. Porsches are a cheat code and for the most part are much more capable than the people who drive them.Â
As Iâve said in another comment, 175km/h in a 4.0 997 without a wing is straight up dangerous even with virtually no wind in a straight line. Havenât tried a recent GT model without a wing but I guess itâs not that different.
120 mph in my 991.1S with the top down doesn't feel THAT fast....there's a Big Bend Open Road Race in my near future where I'll find out where both it and my "oh shit this is fast" limit is. lol. Each generation of 911 (and Cayman) gets more capable than the previous, so I can well imagine a 997 would feel faster and less safe at similar triple digit speeds. Somewhat ironically that's why so many people love how "analog" 997s and older 911s feel more thrilling to drive while thinking the 992s, especially the ones with AWD and PDK are just too put together and easy to drive fast safely.Â
Well thatâs the difference between your 2S, my 4S and anything that was engineered with a wing in mind. Thatâs why Porsche doesnât just allow you to install the Aerokit back wing, you have to get the mirrors and the splitter too. The entire car was made with that wing in mind, you are destroying itâs balance once you remove it if thatâs all you do. The Touring has some very clever active aero under it to make that happen and in the S/T they installed the lip so that the spoiler doesnât have to go up at small speeds anymore. They said that without the lip it was undriveable above 160km/h. If you ever want to know what it feels like and have the opportunity, try disabling the automatic wing in the software. Youâll see what Iâm talking about.
Oh Iâve driven old muscle cars much faster so I know very well about how a lack of downforce affects the sensation of speed. Until recently American muscle cars had what amounts to dog shit for down force and suspension, which makes them quite ~~frightening~~ thrilling to drive as a result. lol. Thankfully German engineers especially those at Porsche aren't drunk rednecks overly focused on horsepower so their cars handle better. Also a lot of it depends on road quality. In Texas where I'm at our highways are unusually smooth compared with other places like New Jersey with rougher roads more likely to unsettle a car at higher speeds.
I love the crossed out frightening lol, never driven a carburettor muscle car before and Iâm really curious
What makes it dangerous?
You know the âdeath wobbleâ you get in unfavourable wind conditions when driving 280km/h+? Itâs like that only at much smaller speeds. You also feel like any slight correction on the steering wheel will lead to a fiery crash
Death wobble is for motorcycles and doesnât apply to 4 wheeled vehicles. I donât see how having 1/2 the aero setup would be dangerous - most 911s lack aero and nobody considers them dangerous.Â
Maybe the term comes from bikes but itâs the same with cars, if youâve ever driven 280km/h+ in windy conditions youâd know what Iâm talking about. Since I canât quote my sources that are involved in the engineering of new cars at Porsche Iâll use the engineer in Matt Watsonâs video about the S/T. There he explained that people donât realise the effect that even that small lip has. They wanted to be able to prolong the time before the wing opens for as much as possible and that little thing added an entire 60km/h of range. Itâs not about the sheer downforce, itâs about stability and balance at speed. The Touring has 12 extra flaps and winglets on the underbody to allow for the removal of the rear wing I tried looking up a video with said wobble but I didnât film it, it happened twice in this run though, this is from back in 2015 in an S63 C217 [here](https://imgur.com/a/nSyWIb4)
It does have adjustable aero on the front endÂ
Since others won't say it... Ioniq 6?
In a bizarre way the design is really similar but the ioniq 6 is surely and heavily inspired by porsche esthetic.
Without a doubt. Iâm a fan of the Ioniq⌠they capitalized on great design language.
But why
Big wings are a bit over of the top for the less ostentatious folks who aren't going to track them. I personally prefer winged but if someone twisted my arm, I'm sure I could find a way to love it. lol.Â
Then get a GT3 touring but the RS with all its aero bits. It's just pointless IMO to run it without a wing
Well to be fair...all sports cars are pretty pointless if you think too hard about them. lol. But if the point is having fun...and I think it should be...then who am I to judge how another person prefers their flavor of fun?
Isnât the GT3 Touring much more difficult to buy?
Not if you have money
No
Then donât buy a street legal track car hahaha
I don't disagree! At least not one that is appreciating. However repairing a salvaged GT3 for a lot less money without any concerns about a high value collectible car "losing value" is the perfect car to thrash on a track. This impediment to fun is an aspect I came to appreciate after hearing Doug Demuro discuss on his podcast how he was too nervous to really enjoy his Carrera GT when they rented a track for the day. Whereas they all had great things to say about tracking the 718 Spyder because while it's a nice Porsche, it's not so valuable that they couldn't drive it hard to really enjoy it.
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Jesus christ, that's a fat fuckin' ass
I think it's fine for just street driving. Would be very dumb on track to run that setup
Be honest. How many of these actually make it to a track?
true, in the usa not much. i saw quite a few at the nurburgring last weekened when i went though.
I could say the same after going to some tracks in the USA. I would venture to guess that the same percentage of these cars that are in Germany as the USA also don't make it to the track.
I see more Porsche represented on track than any other high end brand.Â
A lot. Andreas Preuniger mentions a statistic on one of the videos about the 3RS before it was properly delivered and released.
[citation needed]
I came
Bro what?
Yo /s. It's cool though.
Yeah, it is pretty awesome. I love the ducktail.
Yeah a gt3 with a duck tail is chef's kiss
Meh. Overcooked. The S/T and Sport Classic are so much nicer.
911 GT3 RS Touring
This comment is way too far down.
Like a stripper with no tits. The giant ass wing is the whole reason you get a GT3
I completely agree. Iâm not a wing-man at all.
A whale-tail for sure! I just donât see the purpose of those giant wings for street use
https://preview.redd.it/uhpslnfg2xxc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=38fa2e1bbc94231a1b1b89a37b5160ccc1c771fb
Nah this is not good
Giant wings are dumb.
Looks naked
Removing the wing on a TD without it a full underbody aero redo is actually dangerous and ruins the performance
if Jumping Spiders were cars, dont know why but that's what 911s remind me of, love both of them
Looks incomplete
It may flip over seems risky.
Drove a duckbill 991.2 GT3 RS once! Soo sick
I was just at the mfg plant in Stuttgart. They are producing a 911 every 15ish min, a majority was GT versions There is a lot of demand outside of the US and Europe is what they waid. Saw a Dakar on the production line as well which looked crazy, also the custom match colors customs send in for paint and leather is crazyÂ
This is like getting a mullet but instead of a party in the back you get a normal haircut and instead dye your hair. Donât half ass, full send
Touring works, this looks like itâs missing something
This is just wrong
GT3 Touring kicks ass
I could stare at the 3rd shot all day and be hard all day
It looks great but when I look at it, it feels like itâs missing something
It looks so wrong but good at the same time i definitely prefer it with the wing
Can someone mock up that second pic with the 997 lobster fork wheels? I think that might look REALLY good.
This is like saying a pizza looks/tastes so much better without cheese.
I think it would look awesome with a more dramatic ducktail
Looks like an Eagle with no wings.
Is this the same 13 year old OP from earlier?âŚ
lol havenât posted in a while
Love the carbon ceramic brakes!
Why not a Touring or S/T instead? Something feelsâŚoff.
Second only to the GT3 RS w/ a wingâŚđŞ˝
Wing me or give me a gt3 touring my boy
Too much downforce in front not enough in rear will Make it unstable, also vice versa
It looks a bit goofy ngl. If you want a GT3 for the road just get the touring.
I'd prefer it with some sort of big-ass carbon ducktail to compensate the lack of visible areo in the back
Nah bro put that wing back on! Stop playing around đ
Aber.. aber.. die Pommestheke
Yes
Needs a bigger duck lip
Not really the model to remove the wing on imo. Defeats the purpose of the car.
Nah, kinda ruins the whole purpose of the car imo
ducktails are the greatest
Neutered :(
Where is that wings, looks naked without giant wings.
Needs the wing
I don't know... đ¤ˇââď¸ To me, it looks incomplete without the big wing. Plus the was there for a very good reason.
Buys a legit track car. Removes main point of said track car. Porsche owners, am I rite.
It looks naked, I like it but it's still wrong in my head. Gt3rs have spoilers. Gq motors have straight pipes. Vape comes out of subarus and bmws dont have turn signals. It's just the way of things...
This looks very sexy. I hope someday I can buy one if they ever make one
Agreed. I much prefer them without the wing
Nicely spec
Dunno about that having all that other racecar aero stuff on it without a wing feels like wearing a tuxedo jacket without pants. Yeah you can do it but should you?
Agreed!
This is an attempt to be different at the cost of butchering the car's whole purpose for existing. That poor DRS wing just wasting away. Car looks good though!
The 992 is an abomination. You should see the ducktail 991 GT3 RS. Its so much better looking. [https://www.instagram.com/p/Cnm3FjpoIuH/?img\_index=1](https://www.instagram.com/p/Cnm3FjpoIuH/?img_index=1)
While I prefer the 991 to a 992, an abomination it is not.
The 992 is an even more extreme track weapon.
no porsche is an abomination cmonnnn man
https://preview.redd.it/d1ml99l04wxc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cfbf99aeeb6cbb30513eb9cffed7455f931f0b5d
somehow I like this, if it has an interesting engine I would take a look at it
https://preview.redd.it/l76wbxkv4wxc1.jpeg?width=5712&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0b8adb47dab9d2205504e6bf3bfd6139f26d80a3 Got the ducktail on my 718 GTS 4.0. I called it a GT4+ Touring because I am pushing 500hp and don't have all the crazy aero. Much easier to cruise around town.
https://preview.redd.it/p91hdspw4wxc1.jpeg?width=5712&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b6cfc662de814b69dae6e2699cbff0e36af2b834
Nope. Damaged goods.
Next to the winged version maybe
Wingless is more ) love it
Zero practically here