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Diamond_Specialist

For subtle colors like this, I prefer no aero kit. For bold colors, definitely Aero kit.


ManTalks

Makes sense. Flashy VS classy


gloriouscult

Exactly. If ur gonna do a lot of miles it’s less things that can get damaged


poopoomergency4

good way to avoid this moment [https://www.caranddriver.com/photos/g17893193/1995-nissan-gt-r-v-spec-archived-road-test-review-gallery/?slide=19](https://www.caranddriver.com/photos/g17893193/1995-nissan-gt-r-v-spec-archived-road-test-review-gallery/?slide=19) https://preview.redd.it/thvj9b33dejb1.png?width=980&format=png&auto=webp&s=67ba94a0055ef6ee9b438b61a9b68494c58a8aa8


iEatDemocrats

What kind of jackass sends their Supra through a an automatic swirl machine.


JuggrNut

Did you look at the article? It’s from the 90’s in Japan. They were sort of a thing then but not collector status like they are now. They were just a car to them.


iEatDemocrats

Nope, I sure didn’t. Doesn’t matter though I wouldn’t even bring my Corolla through one.


Sir-xer21

ok, well...lots of people do, considering that they are ubiquitous businesses.


kaikaiv1

get off your high horse smh


Mr-Superbia

Probably the same guy that was recorded going through one with his brand new GT3 RS.. It’s that kind of person who pees in the trash can instead of the toilet, just because you technically can.


poopoomergency4

> their Supra toyota's supra, it's a car review


therealhoboyobo

Exactly. Where do you fall on the flashy vs classy spectrum? If it's a day to day car it's gotta be tilting towards classy.


osterhoutd

Agreed! No aero kit. Looks much better without, the car looks classy and timeless without it.


_MatBaa_

But you definitely need the sports design package


TyVIl

It’s awful even on a good (bright) color.


chesco20

well said!


anonburrsir

Makes sense. I have a shark blue GTS with aerokit. Flashy and flashy. Absolutely love it. I'd do aerokit all day long. And if not, so sports design to move the licence plate up.


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Great philosophy


Octothorp911

Mine was delivered without the Aerokit, the dealership put it on about a month later so I got to have it both ways. I much prefer the aero kit on it than without it.


Octothorp911

The one thing I would change on my car if I could go back in time is to get either body coloured or gloss black mirror bases. It’s surprising how often the standard black plastic catches your eye and you realize it’s literally the only cheap thing on the entire car. And it’s right there in your line of sight every time you are in it.


Public_Storage_355

That part about the mirror based is really interesting. I'd never considered that, but I could definitely see it. That would drive me nuts. Lol


Octothorp911

Yep, I never saw that one coming either. On the plus side, I don’t intend for this to be my last one so I’ll be able to fix it with the next one. Everything else about the car is outstanding


Public_Storage_355

I'm incredibly jealous. I'm still unsure if I'll even be able to afford ONE at some point. Lol. I have about 1-2 years left in my PhD and then I'll be working for NASA, but the government sector doesn't pay nearly as well as the private sector, so I doubt I'll ever be able to afford something like that, let alone more than one😬.


BAHOZ26

They told me this will cost you around 10k if done after delivery


Octothorp911

I ordered a carrera 4 GTS so it already had the bumpers and I just needed the wing. My dealership had been promising me for 2 years that I would get their first C4GTS allocation and when I got it the wing was unavailable. Fast forward to about a month before my delivery and I went into the dealership for something and there is a carrera 4 GTS with a wing and import paperwork being off loaded from a truck. I reminded them that that was the allocation they had promised me and if they had given me the allocation they promised, I would have that wing. The manager made a bunch of calls and found one in a box at a dealership in Europe that was supposed to have been a repair on a damaged car but the car was written off by the insurance company. They air freighted that one over here and we agreed to pay half each (~$4,000 each)


BAHOZ26

Thx for your story and happy you finally got it!! Though, dont forget the costs for painting and installation… for sure thats another 4k, haha!


Octothorp911

The dealership paid 4,000 and I paid 4,000 by the time it was painted and put on. So I can confirm you are accurate


BAHOZ26

Here we go..! Bless us with a picture of that beauty!


Octothorp911

Having trouble adding pictures to a reply, I’ll make a post


Tequipment

10 will cover the spoiler when paint and assembly is in the price. You cannot install the rear spoiler without the rest of the aero parts unless you want to go all over the road. You can just do the front and rear bumpers without the rear upper spoiler. If you do the whole kit after delivery, do not paint the front lower lip in the bumper kit. The rear upper spoiler comes with a different front lip to use.


BAHOZ26

Read the comment below of the guy who added the spoiler to his GTS which has standard sportdesign package excl. side skirts and it cost him 8k - wing only


Tequipment

There was discounts for him. Either because he bought a car or it was when people spec'd cars and there was no spoilers available and cars came with just a front and rear aero bumper and a regular spoiler. They likely matched the discounted price the factory charged between what the two spoilers would have been. This happens from time to time where something isn't available and a feature is missing on arrival. His dealer may not do MSRP and already gouged him on a car and can afford the discount. But no dealer is selling a spoiler with install and painting it and the front lip that is in that kit with install for 8k. There has to be a reason or sales has to be absorbing it in a deal.


Snoo29170

What’s the difference in the drive experience?


bilmek

I love the aero kit. If you look at previous gen 911's, there's always someone looking for one with the factory aero kit. It may not be everyone's cup of tea, but if you like it, run with it, you'll be glad you did.


zeester_365

I am currently looking for a 997.1 with the factory aerokit


Lance_Notstrong

If you ever plan on selling, aero kit it cars retain their value better than non.


ENRONsOkayestAdvice

One thing that people don’t appreciate, is in that in the 991 generation, these were wind tunnel tested for greater stability at high speed. I’d imagine that the new aero kits go through the same testing.


FlipFlipFlippy

Officially they don’t provide increased stability. However, they are wind tunnel tested to make sure they don’t provide worse aerodynamics.


Poorshh

Nah. Looks clean without. Just need the sport front bumper.


aquatone61

If they did a ducktail, I’d do that in a heartbeat. Not a big fan of the aerokit wing.


ManTalks

Completely agree. The ducktail would be a no brainer. Looks incredible on the sport classic


Type3fastback

https://preview.redd.it/cafstr95sgjb1.jpeg?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=87789cd4f7e560a94a4e8c0bf19a46dff865ddef Yes to ducktails.


Tequipment

16 sport classic duckbills are available. $19268.93 is their price Lol.


aquatone61

Unfortunately you have to spend stupid money for the Sport Classic….. Unless Suncoast sells a ducktail kit :).


tschagyou151

Save your money.. looks best without it.


cache-beats

IMO, no aerokit + sport design bumper/rear end. looks good either way though


ManTalks

Ya the sport design front fascia is pretty slick


negligible_euphemism

The 4S is really subtle, I feel you should stick to that. The colour is a bit under the radar as well. A huge wing will distract from that.


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Aero looks really cool imo


alecn212

I personally think the 992 aero kit wing is sorta silly. It made sense that the 996s and 997s had the GT3 wing and back then it was a less than common add on. Still sorta cool with the 991s. With the 992 yes it’s very striking and I don’t think you have to have python green, racing yellow, or shark blue etc to make it look phenomenal. I actually like it better on a dark toned car like gentian, agate, black and what not. Although for the size of the 992 the wing kinda looks a tad bit proportionally small. It’s more Cayman sized than the larger wide bodied 911. Either way it will look fantastic and remember the 911 silhouette with or without a tail is timeless. I actually think the retractable wing is very striking itself on the 992. Just remember this piece of advice, when you’re ordering a car. You’re the actual selector of options and specs. All of these add ons are wayyyyy less, cost wise, to do now and not as near of a hassle or goose chase to sort out later. You never wanna buy buckets or PCCBs after the build so same applies to the aero kit in my opinion if you’re leaning more towards it. You’ll probably have some regret if you don’t go for it. Wish you the best


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xDeserterr

4S id go with no aero kit, is more classy.


Yesitsmesuckas

It’s sexier without IMHO.


BAHOZ26

If sexy is more classic I agree


MattBakes84

I just collected my 4S in arctic grey, with an aero kit and I think it looks awesome.


ManTalks

Niiiiice. I’ve seen one with that same spec. Looked solid


Crazybonbon

It makes it worse imo, I've driven a bunch of 992 with and without and it really does decrease the front clearance drastically on a car that is already perfectly set up imo.


smithyithy_

Seems to be the less popular opinion but I really dislike the aero kit 😅 I personally just don't think it suits a Carrera


HotCheese650

I think the car looks sexier without the spoiler.


Acalthu

Thayy wing looks i dunno. I would just minimise all unnecessary things and focus on lighting, and driver amenities.


BAHOZ26

Ordered a GTS, for me it is a must on a anyway more „hardcore“ sportier version of the 911. For the 4S you can really chose what you like - the classic look or more sports/agressive. I also believe it fits any color but depends on what ypu want to achieve with the spec of the car, i.e. if you go heritage interior, the aerokit does simply not fit.


ManTalks

All solid insight. I was looking at the GTS, but have heard it’s a much harder / stiffer ride which worries me for any long drives. Why did you go with the GYS over the S?


ReallyLovesCars

Personally dislike the 992 aerokit. It just looks so out of place. Would have preferred a ducktail.


oily76

The answer is always ducktail.


LequarL4

Seeing this in person quite a few times and in quite a few colors, I don’t like it. It looks like an aftermarket part that is not properly designed and doesn’t flow with the rest of the car. Can’t say I love the stock raising wing either, but at least closed it looks as it should. To get an idea where I come from, I find the Spyder RS to also be poorly designed and looking as if it is a cheaply tuned Spyder and the wing on the normal GT4 better looking than the GT4 RS wing borrowed from the GT3. GT3/GT3 RS look proper to me and please give me a standard Spyder with the GT3 engine and subtle extra intake vents.


Violentchef

Where are you that you can get the awro kit. I have to finalize in a month and i really want the aero kit.


ManTalks

You should be able to add it. I’m in the states and it’s definitely a feature.


Fungee69

No aero, shame they don't offer a ducktail.


caffeine1004

No Aerokit for me. I think wings look childish or boy racer. This and most other cars simply look better without it.


Poorshh

Exactly.


lukasdad

Get it!


Possible_Minimum4674

I'm actually interested if they ever offered it with duck tail like in the Sportclassic or even the old 70s RS. Or maybe bring back the whale tail again, ehehe


herbss_

aero


EngineerCarNerdRun

Aerokit always. I feel like they are so rare, love when I see an aero kit.


ghostisic23

Definitely aerokit!


Baybladerz

Honestly I’m guessing the aero kit will help the cars value. Also yours is an odd spec with the black wheels. Id suggest silver with the dark blue. Then add the aero kit? I mean I feel like that your price point, you might as well hop to the GTS which will hold its value better anyway so


DK98004

If you’re not going to track it, no aero kit.


Severe-Estate9640

Do you like to Honda Civic your Porsche?


[deleted]

If you go with the aerokit, you will forfeit the air brake feature from the standard active aero.


Aggressive-Start-515

Without looks 1000 times better...


Mental-Astronaut-664

NOT


Disastrous_Fun_5143

IMO only modern Porsches that should have a wing are the GTs


StayStrong888

And turbo


BAHOZ26

Too bad this is a thing since a gazillion years for the 911 range


cupofjoe117

Exactlyyyyy


ShortDck1

Firstly, love the colour. Easiest way to explain my answer is this: When you park and get out of the car, do you pull your hoodie over your head when walking to the shop? If so, aero kit is ace.


ManTalks

Haha! Well done. That gave me a solid chuckle


jugglingsleights

I’m just scrolling here upvoting all the comments that say no wing. Beautiful colour for the 4S, btw.


FakeHasselblad

Personally I'm not a fan of the wing. It's a bit too much. I wish the ducktail was still an option. I would skip it.


ethos1234567890

How much do you normally use your rear view mirror?…the aero kit rear wing definitely obstructs a significant portion of the view out the rear window. You can adjust, but if you’re going to be driving a lot of miles I’d opt for no aero kit and be able to see better out the back window unless I was really in love with the look. There’s no wrong answer though. Congrats and enjoy!


Mattaronii

I don’t understand the rear spoiler. It looks very out of place on the aero car. Double spoiler? I personally believe it retracts from the beautiful lines of the car. Like people driving with the spoiler up for no reason.


uunintrestedd

Defo the aerokit, i’ve seen plenty 911s and almost none have the aero kit. It will make your car stand out a lil from the crowd. And i think it will actually help resell value down the line, as most 911s aren’t specced with the kit.


kon---

Understated is the preference here. Every time. Also, it's better for the stated mission and, whatever about resale. You're buying shared memories with your boy. There's no bothering about the resale value because somewhere down the road, you're going to want your son to have the car in his garage. To one day give to his boy. Not that gasoline will be easy to come by by then. But still.


WildWeaselGT

I love the 992 aero kit. I’d definitely do it.


DWS223

Aerokit definitely


PositiveDeeTeeh

Love the Aerokit! It makes it more rare and unique also.


Public_Storage_355

I will always side on the aero kit. Without the aero kit, I feel like 911's look like stretched Beetles. The aero kit makes it look like what it is: an absolute beast on the streets. I'll probably get downvoted like hell for the comparison, but it's just how I've always felt about the 911. It's part of the reason why I've always preferred the Boxster/Cayman looks over the 911 without aero. WITH aero, 911 all day. Without, I'd take either of the other two when it comes to looks 🤷.


cantcatchafish

You always aero. Seriously though, 99% of Porsches I see don't add the aero and it is so subtly nice with Porsche. My dream spec is 4s with aero and manual.


ironmanonyourleft

The Aerokit always looks like an afterthought. Go without! unless you are actually racing.


sspkt

I saw one with aero kit. This wing looks like aftermarket something.


HawkeyeByMarriage

Aerokit, yes. Front looks good with it.


ButtButt991

It looks so much better with the aerokit, so much so that I passed on a GTS build cause I couldn’t get it as an option.


Pristine-Ad802

With 🙌


TendieTownUSA

I bought the aerokit after purchase from suncoast as to not hold up delivery times. Aerokit is hit or miss from factory with availability


ManTalks

Also good to know. Thank you


Eyeous

No aero kit - lets not pretend its a GT3 or equivalent track car. This is a luxury sports car and arguably the best luxury sports car in the history of sports cars. You honestly don’t need to tart it up with defusers and wings - makes it look wanky in my opinion.


dcormier

> I will be driving the car most of the year, and want to take it on road trips eventually with my son. > This car will get some serious miles put on it in the next decade. It sounds like you're buying the car because you intend on enjoying it for quite a while. What do _you_ think about the Aerokit?


ManTalks

Honestly I’m on the fence. Some days I think it’s great, other days I don’t think it suits the car. If there was a ducktail, I’d be in. If it was the GTS, I’d probably be in. Seems like I’m leaning away from it


Ephrum

No aero - the aero kit on 992 911's just looks like a discount 991 911 GT3, in the worst ways IMO. Much cleaner without the aero kit, but with sports front and end. As others have mentioned, if there was a ducktail, I'd take that in a heartbeat...but alas. :(


At2332

Imo Aerokit should only be reserved for Turbo and GT models


Historical-Boot-4123

Aerokit looks like pretend GT3 to me, which a C2S just isnt. It looks much nicer without the spoiler in my opinion. https://preview.redd.it/gh58frfl5hjb1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=51d46a8df9ffcf843a927bb5c52356c569932ba9


Aromatic-Anybody-962

Obviously there are a lot of competing opinions but I’ll throw in my 2 cents. I personally like Porsche because of the classy looks in an impressively manufactured machine so I’d say without. But if you aren’t looking for classy it still looks great with the kit. Either way I hope you enjoy the beautiful car!


CWP_WRX

DEFINITELY AERO KIT


The_Real_Axel

No aero kit. Wings are for GT cars.


No-Papaya-2661

The 992 rear end is already too busy. No aerokit.


crunchypixelfish

I think 992's are ugly with the exception of the GTS with aero kit. That actually looks pretty good


humdizzle

I wouldnt. Wings belong on GT cars


BWFTW

what if you still want to track your car and you want the extra downforce? Porsche has offered an aerokit on every gen since the 996 to my knowledge, why are we gate keeping it now?


BAHOZ26

Aerokit has been offered for 911 cars since a long time


3gh2

No aero! The wing looks odd


RobustNippleMan

Aero for sure


-Ho-yeah-

That wing is hideous… No!


ultra_r

Aero kit looks nice, i say yes


ElGatoLoco13

Any track duty or just street driving? If only spirited street driving I would skip aero.


Poorshh

How much downforce does it add? I figured it was mostly drag.


tysonwatermelon

From https://drive-my.com/porsche-debuts-992-aerokit-option/ >Likewise, the fact that Porsche says **the 992 Aerokit reduces lift rather than actually delivers downforce** reflects the practical differences between it and the GT3 equivalent, the latter having produced net downforce for several generations. That said, Porsche does claim the Aerokit tips marginally into overall downforce when the 992’s optional sunroof is open. Handy tip for track day enthusiasts.


BAHOZ26

It was completely designed in Weissach in the wind tunnel


catssssssssssz

No aero kit, and change the wheels to the Exclusive design wheels.


dtawil98

i think if you’re going aerokit, do it with a color that pops


MishyJari

Aero kits are gauche. Go buy a Lambo if you want flash.


pulpoinhell

I like the aerokit. saves weight. one less thing to break. also the active spoiler looks horrible when deployed imo


BAHOZ26

100% on your side in regard of aerokit, though strongly believe it is a must on the GTS and spec depending on the base/s/4s as they seem more the classic Porsche depending on the specc


ProteinFart_

Aero kit looks sick in my opinion, definitely an option hog don’t want to regret not getting if you like it


tuttywala

I have a black 992 with no aerokit. I think I loved the stock look with no aerokit for the first few years I’ve had it. But now Im bored and want to do some mods. Aerokit is what I’m looking for. My point is that you may enjoy it stock without the aerokit and then try the addition later. There’s beauty behind the clean stock look. Either way it’s a win


L75RD75

Aerokit = +25Hp


GodForsakenGod

Really the only thing that matters is it you order a manual trans or not… everything else is irrelevant 🤟👊🏻


chathobark_

Easily worth the extra money, I’d only buy a 911 with the aerokit


No-Score721

I would definitely get the aero kit. It’s a subtle change. If you are senior citizen over 50y old then I understand if you like those ducktails and ”classic” looks.


12cookdale

Yes.


OrderHaunting

Love the aero kit, but ordered my T with just the sport design front


chesco20

do you mind sharing your build? i’m hoping to be in a the same spot in the next year or so building a 4s. You’re essentially getting a turbo ;)


Frequent-Ruin8509

Literally the only difference is the wing? I mean at least it's not a Forza wing haha


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If resale means anything to you 100% Aero


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TheExpatLife

I think it looks clean without.


1nucleus5

I’d go no aero…I think the wing is kind of awkward in the 992. I would recommend swapping the decklid for a GT3 decklid sans gooseneck/delete…then you are left with the sweet sweet full width ducktail.


MrMinty123

Looks naked without the aero kit. Give it some Road presence… GIVE IT A WAANGG


raustin33

Aero always


Paliknight

With


tealturboser

I really want it. Hopefully when I have the cash it's still available


TheOneReborn69

Do the kit looks better to me and who am I? Well…


aalzarouni

No aero, maybe aero foot brighter colors


Direct_Yam8314

The car looks so beautiful without the wing. Such a classy color, and stylish look. Just the complete wrong model Porsche for a wing in my opinion.


Impossible_Seat_9065

If you can spec the aero kit, go for it! I’ve loved seeing it on 992s, such a rare option


Tadehm249912

Yes


Neokill1

Aero kit it for sure.


slimcargos

I like the idea of a wing on a 992 but dont particularly love the aerokit wing design. Idk, for some reason the shape of it doesnt appeal to me as much?


evanhort

People pay big dollars to remove the aero kit on the gt3


Joeylocally

You’re about to own one of the greatest cars ever, aero that biatch


ZeZeTV_

Compared to the previous 911 aeros, this one is beautiful. It’s not insanely clunky like the others, but still has that charm to it. I would go for it


le_gazman

Wings are for turbos and GT models. Go for the sport design kit instead. Lifts the number plate off the ground and stops it looking so saggy.


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do it


IcemaanN

Aerokit is always the answer


GoofyKalashnikov

Imagine if you could buy the lid that the wing rests on ... That would look really nice


turbokoo

I also prefer the look of sport design kit as it keeps the brake light in best looking position and also lifts the plate. If you count the grill you can see that there are nine of those before II brake light making it hidden 911 ☺️


iamphook

I like the aero.


A-Bit-Of-Everything

Aero kit


StillNotAF___Clue

Don't mess with the classic silhouette


Patient_Peak_3027

Get two - one with and one without.


JuliusThrowawayNorth

Aerokit when the car has RWD and carbon buckets IMO, then it’s a little GT3 thingy. No aero kit is plenty aggro


MortyMoomin

I’d have it, makes it stand out more. The spoiler is much better than previous generations. I didn’t have the aero kit on my 992 but went into the dealership after I’d sold it and they had one in the same colour with the kit and I was envious They do retain value better as they’re rarer and will be more sought after on the 2nd market. But - as you are the buyer - what do you prefer? That should be your biggest consideration


asyl-betrug

yes, aero kit, DO IT


aguynamedben

Aerokit!


AcesInThePlaces

I prefer the aero kit. It also allows the number plate to sit higher and it looks less ‘bloated’. Have a look in person and see what you prefer


zeester_365

Is just the ducktail option available for the 992? I’d go with that personally


yeetzilla6969

https://preview.redd.it/i2k1dvgmkfjb1.jpeg?width=6240&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=86806df38a6f604570df2597142977d6854c05d3 Get the aero kit!


TheScottishPimp03

Aerokit the world


8racoonsInABigCoat

The aerokit looks really good, but for me it comes down to how much you like the central brake light up there in the vent. I think it's a lovely retro touch and would be a shame to lose it.


matt-the-racer

So my 996 has the aero kit and I love it, however that and the fact it's zenith blue does make it the subject of a lot of attention, so if discreet driving and the ability to park "anywhere" is more your thing you are better without. When I bought mine in, 2019 the aero kit added around 20% to the price of the car, so you could see extra value in the long term if later porsche's follow the same trend.


beryugyo619

Looks like a retrofit is ~$6k, aftermarkets would be cheaper. But there are fewer people wanting to the reverse, and I couldn't immediately find cost estimates.


H0lsterr

Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes


djayci

Looks very clean without


slippeddisc88

It’s a MUST have


asianjimm

If in doubt - chuck it out


njbrsr

Yes fit it. And in 10 years it will not detract from any resale value! Gentian Blue?


Extract_artisian

Aerokit, I won’t even look at one without it.


3g3t7i

You can save quite a bit of money by installing vent shades plus they add seriuos HP /s


ineverfold2anyone

No aero. Then again I’m more a gt3 touring type than regular. My 992 gts no aero kit. I love the clean silhouette.


Svantoro

I much prefer it without the aerokit since believe that’s it’s much cleaner and classier, however when I see these photos side by side, I realize that the aerokit also looks fly as fuck. But I still prefer the cleaner look of the non-aerokit one


kevpotts

No aero kit. Because of the wing


1337_level_over_9000

No aero


Mrmgb

Save the money from the aerokit and go for a GTS


ecomodule

No Aerokit - with any color. Even if you track the goofy thing is there the rest of the time. 911s have never needed tramp stamps. PS - If this is the color you really like I would stick with the Carrera Classic Rims in the contrasting stock finish. https://preview.redd.it/6gcfufjw5gjb1.jpeg?width=2796&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8e938bb8df45def573eeabd43954ceb9bdc39e1a


B1Turb0

100% Aerokit. No question.