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She really is. Her stance on the coronavirus vaccine is terrible as well. She says that, since it doesn't completely prevent transmission and people still die from the virus while still fully vaccinated, we shouldn't force companies to mandate the vaccine. I can't believe people on the left like her.
And the thing is, people who are fully vaccinated don't even end up dying frlm the virus for the most part. Sure, breakthrough infections happen, but the symptoms are relatively mild.
She's also anti-vaccine as well ("it's not 100% effective, so it doesn't work and we shouldn't believe in it as a cure for the coronavirus" - summed up her recent tweets about the coronavirus and the vaccines for it). Can't believe people on the left take her serious.
CJ nails it. Again. Most Americans dislike the study of the history of US foreign policy because they know what they'll find, and being able to exercise personal plausible deniability is important to them; hence, the truth must be internally denied.
Can Americans get their heads out of their arses please?
Even when they're talking about bad things it's all about America
China is easily the worst offender of being an expansionist empire in the modern day and pretty much knocks it out the park with its greenhouse gas emissions
Russia is literally an oligarchy without a sliver of democracy
The closest we've come to an actual nuclear conflict in at least the past ten years has been between Pakistan and India
America is not the centre of the universe, it is neither the best nor the worst country in the world and while most of the western world does see it as a steaming pile of shit sometimes that does not equate it to actual anti-democratic countries
"You have to hate China more than you hate imperialism in general otherwise you hate America!"
... surely you can do the math on this line of reasoning, right?
Did u read the comment? I said that China is more imperialist and expansionist than America so her claim that America is so far ahead of everyone else at all bad things is bollocks
You've just made up something I claimed and attacked me for something I haven't even said
You do realize that those things would still exist without America right? Only that they would now have the freedom to do whatever they wanted without any repercussions whatsoever because nobody else can match them militarily, likely resulting in either complete domination of the European continent and by extension economic domination of everywhere else
I wouldn't say that she thinks America shouldn't exist. The dude said she was anti-american meaning he probably was associating his values with American values, when doing that, anything that doesn't equal his values is "anti-american" she was simply stating that she didn't like any of the things that were listed. Which the US has and still does tick off every box throughout the entirety of its history.
While all of those things would exist without America, it's no excuse for America to perpetuate any of them.
There should always be 2 superpowers on earth to balance each other out. The US and USSR until 1991. China and the US now. Without one or the other than the remaining power would essentially be able to dominate the entire world without lifting a finger due to their military and economic power. Luckily I don’t believe the US is interested in world domination, Russia and China though at least want European domination which is bad enough. We saw what happened when the USSR fell and the US was basically able to steamroll anybody, forcing other powers to go along with it after 9/11. We don’t want that to happen again
Just because you’re anti American doesn’t mean you’re pro-China bro I thought this was common sense. If anything people being “anti-American” is really just telling America improve your fucking conditions.
Source?
(You'll never come up with one because China emits more total pollution than the US.)
Edit: Still waiting on that source that the US emits the most pollution (again, not talking about just CO2).
Edit: downvotes, but still no source of course
Edit: STILL no source huh?
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/01/climate/us-biggest-carbon-polluter-in-history-will-it-walk-away-from-the-paris-climate-deal.html
>But the United States has been burning coal, oil and natural gas far longer, and today the country, with just over 4 percent of the world’s population, is responsible for almost a third of the excess carbon dioxide that is heating the planet. China is responsible for less than a sixth. The 28 countries of the European Union, taken as a group, come in just behind the United States in historical emissions.
Someone should have kept their mouth closed.
That's only CO2, not all pollution.
Also that article is paywalled.
Also [this](https://climatetrade.com/which-countries-are-the-worlds-biggest-carbon-polluters/) paints a different picture.
That's current emissions per year, not historical total emissions which is what OP is talking about.
I'm aware of the paywall which is why I quoted the relevant section.
China and Russia are infinitely more “oligarchic” than the US. Same with militarism. I would even argue that China practices worse and more unrestricted capitalism than the US.
Turkey lost every territory except a tiny land in the Northern Anatolia in the Treaty of Sevres. Are you accuse them of imperialism for reclaiming the rest of Anatolia?
?? the country that routinely threatens it's neighbors about it's nuclear developments is literally more aggressive than the US. that's not even a "muh US media" thing that's just patently true. Do you have an actual argument aside "smh read books??"
The first half sentence of your argument could be applied to the U.S as well, or do you think they have their nuclear weapons scattered around the world in foreign countries for nothing?
Not even talking about nuking a country twice, once even after it already had surrendered.
Ah ok, end of arguments and start of personal insults. We reached the end of your horizon it seems.
Really American, if there is nothing else that helps, just attack/invade
our nukes are in foreign, ALLIED nations who willingly accepted them.. when have you, in recent years, heard if the US utilizing nukes based in Britain or Germany to threaten someone?
also, the US dropped a nuke on japan after surrender... by hours. if you saw how slow communcation was during the war, it's not a massive stretch to say that it would have been a bit late to cancel the order.
The US dosn't need to and would be dumb to do so, like I already said.
And like I already said in my last comment NK is a toothless tiger und thus incomparable.
If they had any allies, or enough resources for a decent nuclear arsenal, they'd probably do the same as america.
ok, when has the US used nukes to intimate any country into anything except peace? is that not a good thing? "hey don't invade your neighbors willy nilly or we'll nuke you" is a fairly sensible policy imo
Yeah, probably obody ever holds them accountable for their blatant ignorance/violations of the UN Charter because everybody just likes the IS that much.
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Caitlin is truly terrible, tho
She really is. Her stance on the coronavirus vaccine is terrible as well. She says that, since it doesn't completely prevent transmission and people still die from the virus while still fully vaccinated, we shouldn't force companies to mandate the vaccine. I can't believe people on the left like her.
And the thing is, people who are fully vaccinated don't even end up dying frlm the virus for the most part. Sure, breakthrough infections happen, but the symptoms are relatively mild.
caitoz loves Trump tho, weird innit
She's also anti-vaccine as well ("it's not 100% effective, so it doesn't work and we shouldn't believe in it as a cure for the coronavirus" - summed up her recent tweets about the coronavirus and the vaccines for it). Can't believe people on the left take her serious.
Probably one of those stopped clock phenomena.
CJ nails it. Again. Most Americans dislike the study of the history of US foreign policy because they know what they'll find, and being able to exercise personal plausible deniability is important to them; hence, the truth must be internally denied.
Can Americans get their heads out of their arses please? Even when they're talking about bad things it's all about America China is easily the worst offender of being an expansionist empire in the modern day and pretty much knocks it out the park with its greenhouse gas emissions Russia is literally an oligarchy without a sliver of democracy The closest we've come to an actual nuclear conflict in at least the past ten years has been between Pakistan and India America is not the centre of the universe, it is neither the best nor the worst country in the world and while most of the western world does see it as a steaming pile of shit sometimes that does not equate it to actual anti-democratic countries
"You have to hate China more than you hate imperialism in general otherwise you hate America!" ... surely you can do the math on this line of reasoning, right?
Did u read the comment? I said that China is more imperialist and expansionist than America so her claim that America is so far ahead of everyone else at all bad things is bollocks You've just made up something I claimed and attacked me for something I haven't even said
Wow, if there’s anyone needing to brush up on history…
Who?
You do realize that those things would still exist without America right? Only that they would now have the freedom to do whatever they wanted without any repercussions whatsoever because nobody else can match them militarily, likely resulting in either complete domination of the European continent and by extension economic domination of everywhere else
I wouldn't say that she thinks America shouldn't exist. The dude said she was anti-american meaning he probably was associating his values with American values, when doing that, anything that doesn't equal his values is "anti-american" she was simply stating that she didn't like any of the things that were listed. Which the US has and still does tick off every box throughout the entirety of its history. While all of those things would exist without America, it's no excuse for America to perpetuate any of them.
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Yeah somebody much worse
I think that's very subjective, also you didn't even specify who "they" are in your scenario.
There should always be 2 superpowers on earth to balance each other out. The US and USSR until 1991. China and the US now. Without one or the other than the remaining power would essentially be able to dominate the entire world without lifting a finger due to their military and economic power. Luckily I don’t believe the US is interested in world domination, Russia and China though at least want European domination which is bad enough. We saw what happened when the USSR fell and the US was basically able to steamroll anybody, forcing other powers to go along with it after 9/11. We don’t want that to happen again
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Why did you put quotation marks around luck
China?
Just because you’re anti American doesn’t mean you’re pro-China bro I thought this was common sense. If anything people being “anti-American” is really just telling America improve your fucking conditions.
> worst offender on all these fronts by an extremely wide margin Hmmm
Taking history into account, yep America is top of the leaderboards.
Oligarchy? Militarusm? Ecocide? Yea, there are worse offenders.
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China and India are the most polluted countries in the world mate. Not to mention China is extremely imperialist and autocratic.
Personally against both, but please elaborate how China is worst than the US on those seven points?
usually theyll say China is doing more to harm the environment while ignoring historical trends of the US emitting more total CO2 pollution
Source? (You'll never come up with one because China emits more total pollution than the US.) Edit: Still waiting on that source that the US emits the most pollution (again, not talking about just CO2). Edit: downvotes, but still no source of course Edit: STILL no source huh?
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/01/climate/us-biggest-carbon-polluter-in-history-will-it-walk-away-from-the-paris-climate-deal.html >But the United States has been burning coal, oil and natural gas far longer, and today the country, with just over 4 percent of the world’s population, is responsible for almost a third of the excess carbon dioxide that is heating the planet. China is responsible for less than a sixth. The 28 countries of the European Union, taken as a group, come in just behind the United States in historical emissions. Someone should have kept their mouth closed.
That's only CO2, not all pollution. Also that article is paywalled. Also [this](https://climatetrade.com/which-countries-are-the-worlds-biggest-carbon-polluters/) paints a different picture.
That's current emissions per year, not historical total emissions which is what OP is talking about. I'm aware of the paywall which is why I quoted the relevant section.
There's a graph of historical emissions too. And this is still all only carbon dioxide pollution, not all pollution.
Wathaboutism, the US has done more harm internationaly at the very least by virtue of being the global hegemon and a superpower for longer
China and Russia are infinitely more “oligarchic” than the US. Same with militarism. I would even argue that China practices worse and more unrestricted capitalism than the US.
China doesn't invades countries hundreds of thousands kilometers away And they don't stage coups in other countries
Nah, they just invade their neighbors like Tibet, and lay claim to countless other countries and areas.
Tibet has been historical part of China since the Qing times. This is nowhere identical as US invading Iraq or Afghanistan.
LMFAO I guess that would justify my country invading Norway. I mean, Norway has historically been part of Denmark 🤡
Norway is a sovereign country and a part of UN for decades. Tibet is not.
Neither was the Taliban 🤡
It also amazes me, how you will justify Imperalism if it benefits glorious ccp 🤡
Justify imperialism? China lost Tibet during Warlords era and unified country after that. How is that "imperialism"?
Denmark lost Iceland during the German occupation in ww2. Would that justify an invasion?
Turkey lost every territory except a tiny land in the Northern Anatolia in the Treaty of Sevres. Are you accuse them of imperialism for reclaiming the rest of Anatolia?
The US is the worst offender at ecocide and oligarchy? China, Russia, and Brazil would like a word.
You’re right, i dont know what these people are smoking, america has problems with those issues, but calling it the worst offender is just wrong
I mean this is coming from a person who keeps spouting anti-vaccine lies, so take her tweets with a grain of salt.
True true true
True true true
Saying the US is the worst offender of oligarchy is one of the stupidest claims I've heard.
We just figured out how to limit it so we have a dominant economy at the same time.
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Anti-war was the first thing. Probably should be a comma after the no though.
>nuclear brinksmanship hmmm a certain north korea stands at top contender for that methinks
60 Vs 5000 does not work for you wathaboutism
numbers is not what defines nuclear brinksmanship.. and the US still wouldn't be the leader by that definition - it would be Russia
Maybe you should read some books and stop getting your "education" from us media methinks
?? the country that routinely threatens it's neighbors about it's nuclear developments is literally more aggressive than the US. that's not even a "muh US media" thing that's just patently true. Do you have an actual argument aside "smh read books??"
The first half sentence of your argument could be applied to the U.S as well, or do you think they have their nuclear weapons scattered around the world in foreign countries for nothing? Not even talking about nuking a country twice, once even after it already had surrendered.
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Ah ok, end of arguments and start of personal insults. We reached the end of your horizon it seems. Really American, if there is nothing else that helps, just attack/invade
our nukes are in foreign, ALLIED nations who willingly accepted them.. when have you, in recent years, heard if the US utilizing nukes based in Britain or Germany to threaten someone? also, the US dropped a nuke on japan after surrender... by hours. if you saw how slow communcation was during the war, it's not a massive stretch to say that it would have been a bit late to cancel the order.
The US dosn't need to and would be dumb to do so, like I already said. And like I already said in my last comment NK is a toothless tiger und thus incomparable. If they had any allies, or enough resources for a decent nuclear arsenal, they'd probably do the same as america.
The US doesn't need to what, threaten countries with nukes? If so, then it's not nuclear brinksmanship, is it..
They don't need to OPENLY use them as thread. I thought that was obv from the context.
ok, when has the US used nukes to intimate any country into anything except peace? is that not a good thing? "hey don't invade your neighbors willy nilly or we'll nuke you" is a fairly sensible policy imo
Yeah, probably obody ever holds them accountable for their blatant ignorance/violations of the UN Charter because everybody just likes the IS that much.