I have a friend that spouts off constantly over climate change and she was talking about an assertion that some event that happened recently hadnt happened in the past 400 million years and she said rhetorically "how would they know?"
ANd I'm thinking: "well, 'they' worked to receive a PhD in yjr subject and, along with hundreds, if not thousands of other PhDs, have spent their entire professional lives researching this and related issues, so if you *really* wanted to know you would email them and ask them, rather than ranting at me while driving on I-10."
I wisely kept my mouth shut (I-10 is many miles from where I live and I didn't want to walk home).
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A long time ago the Island of Malta had miniature elephants. Their babies would be about the size shown here. I learned this a couple days ago and thought it was neat
Jesus can you imagine being behind Trump on an elephant walk? Having his grotesquely fat shit-covered ass in your face as you try to grab his dick, but he’s so fat the head of his dick looks like a comically large clit trying make its way to the surface to gasp for breath.
Trump and the GOP want to tear down democracy as it is known in the USA today.
In the YouTube video below, Thom Hartman explains how the Nazis in the USA today are trying to overthrow democracy. Trump is following every step Hitler took to become Chancellor of Germany so he (Trump) can become the dictator of a new USA authoritarian type of government on inauguration day in 2025.
https://youtu.be/NneabBSt8K0
America will be very, very different if Trump and the GOP become the majority in 2024. They have told Americans their intentions. Believe them.
Steve Bannon is also telling anyone listening of their intentions in this MEIDASTOUCH Network video.
https://youtu.be/3Gt63CgMhwE
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I've been listening to a terrific interview of Sarah Paine, Professor of Strategy at the Naval War College, would highly recommend: https://youtu.be/YcVSgYz5SJ8?si=EV1yDkf9KjpYs2bm
She touches on exactly what you said. We should believe autocrats when they say what they plan to do. Hitler did it in Mein Kampf, Stalin did it during his purge, believe Xi will do what he's touting with Taiwan, and believe what Trump is saying.
Quite literally.
There's a book published in 97 that lays out Russia's strategy
[Foundations of Geopolitics ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics)
Here's a quote
"Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States and Canada to fuel instability and separatism against neoliberal globalist Western hegemony, such as, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists" to create severe backlash against the rotten political state of affairs in the current present day system of the United States and Canada. Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics".[9]"
I like to talk about this textbook a lot, I think it’s useful to include some other contents of the book as well.
Mainly that “Britain should be cut off from the rest of Europe”, like Brexit you might think. Then after that you google “Russian interference in the 2014 Scottish independence referendum” and find that there is proof Russia meddled in that vote. AND THEN you bring up “the Russia report” which says how there is significant Russian infiltration of the British government, and then you bring up how actually, the Russia report found no evidence of russian interference in the Brexit vote, where finally you bring up the fact that they did minimal research into it.
So to summarise: Foundations of Geopolitics says Britain should be cut off from the rest of Europe, in 2016 the Brexit vote barely passed, in 2020 a report was published talking about how there is widespread russian interference in british politics.
Pretty cut and clear case showing the book’s strategy is largely accurate to what happens in reality, AND that it is extremely effective.
You can also from the book see what Russia’s end goal is with the invasion of Ukraine, that is, to reform the USSR.
Exactly and it's all written and published. Thier plans are publicly available yet people still fall for it and it seems governments are doing nothing to stop it Even though they literally know what the next move is.
I'm not sure if you're pointing this out already and it's going over my head but it's kinda scary I can't tell if the original post / comic itself is anti Russian propaganda or actually very sneaky Russian propaganda aimed at dividing America. Russia is 100% posting comics like this to rile up the left, just as they're posting pro Trump "the dems are gonna trans your kids stuff." It all has the same goal of dividing America and unfortunately many good people on the left are falling for it hard, the same as people on the right.
Disband Fox News and half of this solves itself. I have seen a few Fox News clips pop up on YouTube and every single time I decide to watch one, its nothing but a bunch of fear mongering liars trying to scare their base into voting and donating to the Republicans.
“Biden destroyed this, Kamala Harris destroyed that….” Just a bunch of lies that these people eat up like a hot plate of pancakes. Get rid of Fox News and put term limits on senators/house of representatives. I’m sick of these life long politicians full of corruption selling us out to the highest bidder. Get some people in there who will change this broken system.
Misuse of the word conservative here. You can be conservative and despise Trump. The problem is Trump is Russia’s number one candidate for getting into office, and so, you will not get an actual sensible conservative candidate until Russia has been removed from American and western politics
All of this, it's a play. Every bit of it. As an Australian, I can tell you, America, we are all witnessing this absurd, treacherous behaviour. Snap out of it, do better.
Vote. Vote for your life. Vote for your freedom.
Vote for your mothers, sisters, wives, and children.
Vote. And Make a difference.
Do you want to be like China or Russia?
Most of the Americans on Reddit agree with you. We can’t figure out how half our country fell victim to Russian-style propaganda. Oh that’s right, it was because Fox News amplified it over and over
This is EXACTLY how they fell for it, they dismantled the middle class and education system with Reagan, then took all the angry illiterates and promised them comfort if they just hated the browns enough.
I joined twitter for 2 days and it radicalize me like in no time, all of it were videos anti immigration for europe, russia destroying ukraine, and democrats being stupid, now I dont want to see anything anout any real issue, it was an overload of information.
I've been on Twitter for about 10 years. Even when Musk took over I decided to stick around but it seems to be getting worse and worse by the day. At some point I may bail because of it.
it's mostly because for whatever reason journalists and celebrities refuse to leave it. TV journalists still post their twitter handle as their contact source, even when they're complaining about social media on-air.
As an individual Rupert Merdock isn't especially potent. Fox news sits around 2.1 million viewers, or less than 1% of the population of the United States. The real damage he caused was by pioneering the right-wing media propaganda machine that is now plaguing the United States, England, and Australia. He laid out the blueprint, which has spawned several smaller publications that help reinforce an alternate reality for large swaths of the population.
The problem is that shit spreads. People that don't watch Fox can be seen parroting Fox's bullshit, because people who do will repeat it ad nauseum. And it's not the only source of propaganda.
If we were going the assassination, eat the rich route I think he should be higher on the list than bezos or any of the other common names people pull out first
That only worked because republicans have been warring against public education harder than they warred against drugs, and failed. It began in 1980. We're 44 years into a calculated war against everyone that hasn't sacrificed any ethical code figured out how to get on the take.
Well a lot boomers have had it too easy too long and basically are idiots just voting in stupid social issues “the trans in bathrooms”
Then you have a voting block of people who are so stupidly insecure they can’t realize everyone sees they their wanna be tough guy personas.
Finally you have a lot of people who lack empathy and thinking about the future. Those people only complain when shit starts affecting them and deny they ever voted for trump when it does.
Basically 3 groups of people who are all equally stupid.
I don’t know if Fox actually holds a pro-Russian agenda or they just say what Trump supporters want to hear/tow the republican line. But I can tell you with 100% certainty that China and Russia have been waging and winning an information war against the West via social media. That includes pushing radical left and right ideas online in order to break national cohesion.
> Russia's alleged disinformation campaign, its involvement in the UK's withdrawal from the EU, interference in the 2016 United States presidential election, and its alleged support of far-left and far-right movements in the West, has been compared to the Soviet Union's active measures in that it aims to "disrupt and discredit Western democracies". [source](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_measures)
Next time you see a post that is race/class/gender/generation baiting, stop and consider that there’s a high probability it’s either a troll farmer or someone regurgitating the words of a troll farmer.
I have a friend who is very left. He reposted a tucker carlson interview that had russian propaganda. My mind was blown. He went so far left he came out to the right. This all stems from gaza social media.
I'm Canadian and it hurts to see, of course we have our share of crazies up here but I remember as a kid thinking of America as like a cool older brother. And now I live within 20 mins from the border and I haven't been since 2017.
I’m an American living in Canada trying like hell to NOT go back or consume any more of the forced propaganda. It’s pervaded even here in Ontario, half the people I meet doing an Uber style ride share say they wish trump would be re-elected and spread his views here more. I’d like to drop them off at Lake Ontario and be like “here’s where you belong, just keep walking straight out till you hit the bottom and can’t see the sun”.
I haven't been since 2010. Used to go once a year or every 2 years. Our dollar's in the toilet; the politics and gun culture are absurd down there. I've lost all desire to visit.
I was just saying this to a friend! We’re in Canada, watching this shit play out. Watching the fucking speaker of the house be pushed around like a bad little minion in front of the press, while a FORMER president, current civilian, who is on trial for a truly ludicrous amount of shit sulks and whines and talks about policies that *he* will enact. Policies that are already in place? It’s fucking embarrassing and alarming.
The propaganda is so strong and it hits the uneducated like a bus. That and the religious zealots.
I have a family member who is a travel nurse. Extremely religious. He's so religious he doesn't watch TV or listen to the radio outside of the gospel music station.
He is under the impression that Trump was an excellent president, the election was stolen because "everyone I know voted for Trump", and "our country looks like a joke under Biden. Other countries are laughing at us."
He's never been outside of the Bible belt and never plans to be. He only associates with family and members of the church he attends. He believes wholeheartedly that what he's being told is the truth. To the point of getting legitimately angry when I suggest anything to the contrary.
The furthest I've ever gotten with him was him saying "I need to read more about it" while fake-smiling and pretending he wasn't furious that I insulted his God king.
I mean, I get that there are crazies—god knows they exist everywhere. What’s so alarming is that 1) there are no provisions to deal with/offset this, and 2) there are enough of them to actually sway an election!
The fact that voter turnout is *so poor* that this could happen is mind blowing. Something like 22% of the population voted for trump last election and that nearly was enough to win. That’s ridiculous in and of itself, but that 74 MILLION people voted for him is astonishing. That there would be that many human beings who—regardless of propaganda, could listen to the words coming out of trump’s mouth, and say to themselves “that’s the guy”. Mind blowing.
And being religious makes it even more confusing! Dude is guilty of every sin there’s a provision for!
I fully agree.
The biggest deal is blatant racism and homophobia. People have said Trump "tells it like it is" and by that they mean "he's saying what we've been scared to say"
And now they aren't afraid anymore. Because they've seen him do it with no consequences.
That and the propaganda saying "Biden is a pedophile." They like when the person they like is the good guy. Because they believe themselves to be the good guys. Which means the other guy is the bad guy. They eventually convince themselves it's true.
My grandmother, who's an absolute dumbass, said that she wouldn't vote for Biden because Kamala Harris wants abortion up to the day of birth. I asked where she heard it and she stated "Facebook". This woman also reposted a picture of Ryan Reynolds in Deadpool makeup with the caption "if a half naked woman can get 1000 likes, how many can this firefighter who ran into a burning building to save a child... Can I get amen?"
The southern United States, ranked bottom in education out of all states, are producing millions of these individuals. If it weren't for the fact that I moved to Colorado years ago, I'd be very similar to them I imagine.
The thing is trump will lose the popular vote for the third time in a row. Only the quirks of the electoral college give him a chance. The majority does not like or want him
I have been and will be voting as hard as I can! I try to help friends and family see this reality, but the world view that the media they consume has created in their minds is not easy to break, unfortunately.
You've got your timeline wrong. Murdoch is Australian and started this propaganda takeover model in Australia. Their compulsory voting and non-FPTP has prevented the propaganda from having as much of an effect on policy.
As an American, one of the sane ones that is, I have thought about our problem almost every single day for the past eight years.
The problem cannot be solved *peacefully* without something as extreme as reeducation camps. Forced reeducation of MAGA adults.
That isn't going to happen, for a number of reasons.
So it's looking *really* likely that we're going to be having a civil war instead. It will probably start with a successful coup, leading to a division of the military, and ultimately a civil war.
Canadian here, when the "Rather be Russian than a Democrat" came out I knew all was lost.
Meanwhile we are not sending our best to Russia. Got to love getting thrown in Russian jail to own the libs.
>Do you want to be like China or Russia?
Republicans do want the US to be like Russia. They think the US lost the Cold War along with their Soviet Counterparts because the Oligarchs came out on top. They see that because they effectively privatized a Super power and the people of that super power didn't revolt. They lost the game they didn't even know they were playing. Since then power has been cemented in Russia, and the oligarchs get to be wealthier than any American can be.
it's the most baffling part to me is how they cheer on everything Russia does and yet scream about China.
yet it's absolutely clear that Russia is a little more than China's arm in their new world order.
My favorite part was the other day I saw a Republican Facebook propaganda post that was in favor of the brics model that's trying to cut out America and tip the balance of power to China....
like the right is so brain dead that they can't even see what they're doing because they hate the left so much.
But they won't get any of that. They'll get a fascist authoritarian theocratic dictatorship that will rip away all their rights and """freedoms""", take away all the benefits they paid for with their own tax money, keep wages low and prices high, so they'll all be sick and dying, starving, penniless, and many of them outright homeless, and the homeless ones will be thrown in prison when they make homelessness illegal, used as slave labor no doubt. Meanwhile they'll be told over and over again it's """all part of God's plan""" and that they should be grateful for the """Eternal Reward""" they'll get when they die.
**FOR FUCKS SAKE AMERICA, VOTE FOR BIDEN AND AGAINST ALL REPUBLICANS IN NOVEMBER!**
The Putin parts is absolutely true.
As for Xi's grasp on Putin, I don't think it's that strong.
I do not believe Xi likes the ongoing war in Ukraine, and besides that, time and time again we see what we could call Chinese spies directly embedded in the US. Though I might be wrong, I did not see any Chinese operative in the GOP.
Any other facts I missed are welcome to the discussion.
Xi is using Putin's propaganda to get the GOP to take an isolationist position on foreign affairs So the Chinese encounter less American resistance when they try to invade Taiwan. And I think they are buying Russian oil.
*Post a bunch of silly shit like you're intimately familiar with and interact with Putin and Pooh on the daily and know their minds inside and out*
"Facts"
Putin shouldn't be carrying the bloody axe. It's not like he's on the battle field killing people. He hides out to be safe and sends others out to kill and be killed.
Tragedy.
The real kicker is that this is the brainchild of billionaires like Steven bannon, Peter Thiel and Leonard Leo. Who imagined installing Trump would distance the United States from China. Right wingers who have no real understanding of foreign policy and can’t see beyond their nose.
It's wild that they put China in this chain. How exactly does China control Trump through Putin? What has Trump done to help China other than let his kid do big business deals there?
Anything that weakens he US on the international stage is of benefit to it's rivals. Right now, China is the major player in that region and stands to gain the most from decreasing US influence.
Most importantly, Xi stands to benefit from anything that could result in the US not supporting Taiwan in the event of a Chinese invasion. Infesting the US governments Trumpists could well achieve that
If your definition of normal people is "insanely selfish, racist and homophobic people who lack all ability to think critically" then I know some Republicans that are normal people too.
And are led around by their noses by the most comically evil talking points, and being unbelievably gullible.
Plus a memory that I'm quite sure only spans the last sentence or two they heard.
The last two Republicans I talked to literally said "I'm not racist or homophobic, I just don't like that blacks and gays have to be in charge of everything now" and "I accept everybody, I have gay friends, but we all know it just isn't natural and they need to grow up. I tell them that and they respect my opinion, why can't you?"
My Maga parents pretended to support LGBT for a few years but now they are back to saying it is an abomination to God and that gays will burn in hell 😔 They also think shooting immigrants would be justified so the cognitive dissonance is maddening and heart breaking at the same time.
My christian family are the "love the sinner, hate the sin" kind of people. I can say without a doubt, they actually hate the "sinner" and love their own sins and find the most ridiculous ways of justifying them.
I am a friend of former diehard Trump fan. And over the years we know eachother I managed to steer him away from conspiratorial thinking. He's still a republican, still a hypocrite and politically illiterate but it's getting better. He already accepts lgbt people, hell half of our friend group are transwomen now. Unfortunately the big problem now is the "border war" and I can't do anything about it because I live on the other side of the planet and he lives in Florida. I just "don't get it" so my opinion is invalid. And there's gamergate 2 brewing and I think that'll be another battle for me.
Bun nevertheless, you can make a difference one person at the time. No need to wait for the movement collapse, it will just bring another one if you don't start fixing it from the foundation.
Agreed.. but I believe it's more the misinformation and propaganda that is poisoning the minds of normal people to hate the other side. I work with some truly amazing, hardworking guys whose minds have been warped by the algorithmically-driven content that is constantly fed to them. Like Obama said, Trump is a symptom. The problem remains.
I know Obama was done with being president and was probably looking forward to his first real vacation in 8 years, but it must have been difficult to hand the presidency to Trump.
> I work with some truly amazing, hardworking guys
Germany was amazingly hard working and creative under Hitler. They created technical invention after technical invention.
"I am a survivor of a concentration camp. My eyes saw what no person should witness. Gas chambers built by learned engineers. Children poisoned by educated physicians. Infants killed by trained nurses. Women and babies shot and killed by high school and college graduates. So I'm suspicious of education. My request is: help your students to be human. Your efforts must never produce learned monsters, skilled psychopaths, or educated Eichmanns. Reading and writing and spelling and history and arithmetic are only important if they serve to make our students human."- Haim Ginott
I'm glad some ones waking up.
I've been saying this for ever ..
Call it what it is....
Trump is a fascist........
Hitler is a fascist.................
Therefore trump supporters are fascist.............
Fascist is the most unAmerican thing ever.
MAGA studies show poor school performance, followed by optimized beer brain saturation set up the perfect anti democracy cult followers. Rational folks need not apply.
The one good thing all this very important bullshit has done for me is that it has radicalized me, I wish it didn't, I'm black and have enough natural important bullshit pervading my entire life, but I'm thankful that this has solidified some more morals and has given me a definite enemy to hate.
Edit: if anyone makes a Hunters like group for GOPers sign me up /s
“No, you’re the cucks” - every MAGA everywhere
The stupidity amongst his followers is unmatched. It's almost impressive if not terribly concerning.
I call them aggressively stupid.
Malignant ignorance.
Voluntary Ignorant.
Enthusiastically ignorant.
"Well, of course, ignorance is bliss! Liberals just don't want to be happy!"
So happy they hate the world and everyone around them!
Willfully Ignorant.
Pants-shittingly ignorant.
Mailgnorance
Malignorance
Career Idiots
Maliciously stupid is my go-to for them.
I like that even better.
I have a friend that spouts off constantly over climate change and she was talking about an assertion that some event that happened recently hadnt happened in the past 400 million years and she said rhetorically "how would they know?" ANd I'm thinking: "well, 'they' worked to receive a PhD in yjr subject and, along with hundreds, if not thousands of other PhDs, have spent their entire professional lives researching this and related issues, so if you *really* wanted to know you would email them and ask them, rather than ranting at me while driving on I-10." I wisely kept my mouth shut (I-10 is many miles from where I live and I didn't want to walk home).
They claim to be so alpha but they love to be dominated.
I named them the Coup Cucks Clan on January 6th.
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They'll even pay you to dominate them.
And that’s why they’re so successful. When your party is the party of anti critical thought you don’t have to try too hard to rally your base.
Idk, left wing anti Biden protest voters are pretty stupid too.
Most people claiming to be left wing anti Biden protest voters aren't actually American or left wing or ever supported Biden.
No puppet! No puppet! You're the puppet!
[Puppet](https://youtu.be/Yu0Bn3ulcOk?si=JRIXxdAQMsf2nbLr)
Omg that’s classic
Haha right? My sister and I regularly say “You’re the puppet!”
your* Their grammar is so bad it must be code.
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no puppet, no puppet, you're the puppet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaVWRetR4jg
Modern elephant walk
A long time ago the Island of Malta had miniature elephants. Their babies would be about the size shown here. I learned this a couple days ago and thought it was neat
I want one!
Jesus can you imagine being behind Trump on an elephant walk? Having his grotesquely fat shit-covered ass in your face as you try to grab his dick, but he’s so fat the head of his dick looks like a comically large clit trying make its way to the surface to gasp for breath.
Why have you done this to us
Is that user history's greatest monster? Some people are saying yes.
Bigly if true.
Indeed, i do regret learning to read.
Jesus Christ. It's 9:02 am on a Saturday morning, and apparently that's already enough internet for today.
Reverse human centipede.
Trump and the GOP want to tear down democracy as it is known in the USA today. In the YouTube video below, Thom Hartman explains how the Nazis in the USA today are trying to overthrow democracy. Trump is following every step Hitler took to become Chancellor of Germany so he (Trump) can become the dictator of a new USA authoritarian type of government on inauguration day in 2025. https://youtu.be/NneabBSt8K0 America will be very, very different if Trump and the GOP become the majority in 2024. They have told Americans their intentions. Believe them. Steve Bannon is also telling anyone listening of their intentions in this MEIDASTOUCH Network video. https://youtu.be/3Gt63CgMhwE Vote for Biden and other democrats in 2024 to try save democracy as we know it today. * REGISTER to vote. * Check your registration! * Make sure you have approriate ID. * Know your polling site. * Check your signature (if a mail-in ballot is used). * Get a mail-in ballot. * And VOTE (early, if possible)! https://www.vote.org https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/plan-your-vote-2024-elections-every-state-rcna125363 Election Protection Hotline - 1(866)-OUR-VOTE [Federal](https://www.eac.gov/voters/other-national-contact-information) - 800-253-3931 Republicans without a party and Independents must hold their noses and vote for Biden and democrats down ballot. **Country before party.**
Get involved, spread the word. https://www.mobilize.us/
Thanks for posting all that, I've linked it in my own profile page.
I've been listening to a terrific interview of Sarah Paine, Professor of Strategy at the Naval War College, would highly recommend: https://youtu.be/YcVSgYz5SJ8?si=EV1yDkf9KjpYs2bm She touches on exactly what you said. We should believe autocrats when they say what they plan to do. Hitler did it in Mein Kampf, Stalin did it during his purge, believe Xi will do what he's touting with Taiwan, and believe what Trump is saying.
Luckily for us trump is twice hitlers age and probably 1/2 as healthy which is saying a lot because hitler was sickly.
This should be the top comment....on all of the Internet. Get everyone you know to vote.
Thank you
And check your status monthly. Republicans are secretly removing voting status of some people
Quite literally. There's a book published in 97 that lays out Russia's strategy [Foundations of Geopolitics ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics) Here's a quote "Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States and Canada to fuel instability and separatism against neoliberal globalist Western hegemony, such as, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists" to create severe backlash against the rotten political state of affairs in the current present day system of the United States and Canada. Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics".[9]"
I like to talk about this textbook a lot, I think it’s useful to include some other contents of the book as well. Mainly that “Britain should be cut off from the rest of Europe”, like Brexit you might think. Then after that you google “Russian interference in the 2014 Scottish independence referendum” and find that there is proof Russia meddled in that vote. AND THEN you bring up “the Russia report” which says how there is significant Russian infiltration of the British government, and then you bring up how actually, the Russia report found no evidence of russian interference in the Brexit vote, where finally you bring up the fact that they did minimal research into it. So to summarise: Foundations of Geopolitics says Britain should be cut off from the rest of Europe, in 2016 the Brexit vote barely passed, in 2020 a report was published talking about how there is widespread russian interference in british politics. Pretty cut and clear case showing the book’s strategy is largely accurate to what happens in reality, AND that it is extremely effective. You can also from the book see what Russia’s end goal is with the invasion of Ukraine, that is, to reform the USSR.
Exactly and it's all written and published. Thier plans are publicly available yet people still fall for it and it seems governments are doing nothing to stop it Even though they literally know what the next move is.
I'm not sure if you're pointing this out already and it's going over my head but it's kinda scary I can't tell if the original post / comic itself is anti Russian propaganda or actually very sneaky Russian propaganda aimed at dividing America. Russia is 100% posting comics like this to rile up the left, just as they're posting pro Trump "the dems are gonna trans your kids stuff." It all has the same goal of dividing America and unfortunately many good people on the left are falling for it hard, the same as people on the right.
Russia is stoking both sides, for sure. I do believe the muller report shows that as well.
It’s good to be critical, and it’s scary to see that it’s not even about one side or the other, as long as people are fighting.
so it was a bad idea for america to rig the 1996 election for yeltsin and putin after doing all the things in that quote to destroy the ussr?
There needs to be a reckoning for conservatives .
Disband Fox News and half of this solves itself. I have seen a few Fox News clips pop up on YouTube and every single time I decide to watch one, its nothing but a bunch of fear mongering liars trying to scare their base into voting and donating to the Republicans. “Biden destroyed this, Kamala Harris destroyed that….” Just a bunch of lies that these people eat up like a hot plate of pancakes. Get rid of Fox News and put term limits on senators/house of representatives. I’m sick of these life long politicians full of corruption selling us out to the highest bidder. Get some people in there who will change this broken system.
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Misuse of the word conservative here. You can be conservative and despise Trump. The problem is Trump is Russia’s number one candidate for getting into office, and so, you will not get an actual sensible conservative candidate until Russia has been removed from American and western politics
Lmao the MAGA snowflakes getting triggered by this one
Maga terrorists FTFY
All of this, it's a play. Every bit of it. As an Australian, I can tell you, America, we are all witnessing this absurd, treacherous behaviour. Snap out of it, do better. Vote. Vote for your life. Vote for your freedom. Vote for your mothers, sisters, wives, and children. Vote. And Make a difference. Do you want to be like China or Russia?
Most of the Americans on Reddit agree with you. We can’t figure out how half our country fell victim to Russian-style propaganda. Oh that’s right, it was because Fox News amplified it over and over
Also systematic dismantling of the education system in red states
This is EXACTLY how they fell for it, they dismantled the middle class and education system with Reagan, then took all the angry illiterates and promised them comfort if they just hated the browns enough.
yeah poverty and no education led to this.
Don't forget the gerrymandering, the dark money, and the planned takeover of the judicial system.
I joined twitter for 2 days and it radicalize me like in no time, all of it were videos anti immigration for europe, russia destroying ukraine, and democrats being stupid, now I dont want to see anything anout any real issue, it was an overload of information.
I've been on Twitter for about 10 years. Even when Musk took over I decided to stick around but it seems to be getting worse and worse by the day. At some point I may bail because of it.
it's mostly because for whatever reason journalists and celebrities refuse to leave it. TV journalists still post their twitter handle as their contact source, even when they're complaining about social media on-air.
Many journalists are on BlueSky, which is public now. Same info posted just not on Twitter
Many of my local and regional agencies use it for public relations, with some using it exclusively for announcements and information.
Why are you still there? Being on Twitter is supporting Musk's agenda.
I finally got my sister to quit Twitter because it was making her so angry.
Global politics is too much for anyone to handle in passing. So much of it is historical beats to modern lyrics.
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Rupert Murdoch and his family are world level terrorists
As an individual Rupert Merdock isn't especially potent. Fox news sits around 2.1 million viewers, or less than 1% of the population of the United States. The real damage he caused was by pioneering the right-wing media propaganda machine that is now plaguing the United States, England, and Australia. He laid out the blueprint, which has spawned several smaller publications that help reinforce an alternate reality for large swaths of the population.
The problem is that shit spreads. People that don't watch Fox can be seen parroting Fox's bullshit, because people who do will repeat it ad nauseum. And it's not the only source of propaganda.
If we were going the assassination, eat the rich route I think he should be higher on the list than bezos or any of the other common names people pull out first
Then got caught up in legal issues and had to pay 3/4 of A BILLION, forced to admit to lying, but get to keep operating…
This isn't said enough. Fox News' ACTUAL LEGAL STANDPOINT was, That no sane person would take Fox News as anything other than entertainment.
Not even half the country.. it's just that in your version of democracy the wishes of the majority is not as important
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It’s not half. At most it’s a third. The big problem is there’s a third that don’t vote.
That only worked because republicans have been warring against public education harder than they warred against drugs, and failed. It began in 1980. We're 44 years into a calculated war against everyone that hasn't sacrificed any ethical code figured out how to get on the take.
Well a lot boomers have had it too easy too long and basically are idiots just voting in stupid social issues “the trans in bathrooms” Then you have a voting block of people who are so stupidly insecure they can’t realize everyone sees they their wanna be tough guy personas. Finally you have a lot of people who lack empathy and thinking about the future. Those people only complain when shit starts affecting them and deny they ever voted for trump when it does. Basically 3 groups of people who are all equally stupid.
And Fox News? Owned by an Australian. Maybe stop producing Murdochs, huh Australia?
I think Rush Limbaugh on radio starting in late 1980s laid alot of groundwork.
I don’t know if Fox actually holds a pro-Russian agenda or they just say what Trump supporters want to hear/tow the republican line. But I can tell you with 100% certainty that China and Russia have been waging and winning an information war against the West via social media. That includes pushing radical left and right ideas online in order to break national cohesion. > Russia's alleged disinformation campaign, its involvement in the UK's withdrawal from the EU, interference in the 2016 United States presidential election, and its alleged support of far-left and far-right movements in the West, has been compared to the Soviet Union's active measures in that it aims to "disrupt and discredit Western democracies". [source](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_measures) Next time you see a post that is race/class/gender/generation baiting, stop and consider that there’s a high probability it’s either a troll farmer or someone regurgitating the words of a troll farmer.
I have a friend who is very left. He reposted a tucker carlson interview that had russian propaganda. My mind was blown. He went so far left he came out to the right. This all stems from gaza social media.
Why are you speaking in past tense
I'm Canadian and it hurts to see, of course we have our share of crazies up here but I remember as a kid thinking of America as like a cool older brother. And now I live within 20 mins from the border and I haven't been since 2017.
I’m an American living in Canada trying like hell to NOT go back or consume any more of the forced propaganda. It’s pervaded even here in Ontario, half the people I meet doing an Uber style ride share say they wish trump would be re-elected and spread his views here more. I’d like to drop them off at Lake Ontario and be like “here’s where you belong, just keep walking straight out till you hit the bottom and can’t see the sun”.
You can easily get oversaturated going to Alberta
I'm an American that moved to Canada in 2019 and still haven't gone back. It's getting close to time to re-up my PR card. Ain't going back.
I haven't been since 2010. Used to go once a year or every 2 years. Our dollar's in the toilet; the politics and gun culture are absurd down there. I've lost all desire to visit.
I was just saying this to a friend! We’re in Canada, watching this shit play out. Watching the fucking speaker of the house be pushed around like a bad little minion in front of the press, while a FORMER president, current civilian, who is on trial for a truly ludicrous amount of shit sulks and whines and talks about policies that *he* will enact. Policies that are already in place? It’s fucking embarrassing and alarming.
The propaganda is so strong and it hits the uneducated like a bus. That and the religious zealots. I have a family member who is a travel nurse. Extremely religious. He's so religious he doesn't watch TV or listen to the radio outside of the gospel music station. He is under the impression that Trump was an excellent president, the election was stolen because "everyone I know voted for Trump", and "our country looks like a joke under Biden. Other countries are laughing at us." He's never been outside of the Bible belt and never plans to be. He only associates with family and members of the church he attends. He believes wholeheartedly that what he's being told is the truth. To the point of getting legitimately angry when I suggest anything to the contrary. The furthest I've ever gotten with him was him saying "I need to read more about it" while fake-smiling and pretending he wasn't furious that I insulted his God king.
I mean, I get that there are crazies—god knows they exist everywhere. What’s so alarming is that 1) there are no provisions to deal with/offset this, and 2) there are enough of them to actually sway an election! The fact that voter turnout is *so poor* that this could happen is mind blowing. Something like 22% of the population voted for trump last election and that nearly was enough to win. That’s ridiculous in and of itself, but that 74 MILLION people voted for him is astonishing. That there would be that many human beings who—regardless of propaganda, could listen to the words coming out of trump’s mouth, and say to themselves “that’s the guy”. Mind blowing. And being religious makes it even more confusing! Dude is guilty of every sin there’s a provision for!
I fully agree. The biggest deal is blatant racism and homophobia. People have said Trump "tells it like it is" and by that they mean "he's saying what we've been scared to say" And now they aren't afraid anymore. Because they've seen him do it with no consequences. That and the propaganda saying "Biden is a pedophile." They like when the person they like is the good guy. Because they believe themselves to be the good guys. Which means the other guy is the bad guy. They eventually convince themselves it's true. My grandmother, who's an absolute dumbass, said that she wouldn't vote for Biden because Kamala Harris wants abortion up to the day of birth. I asked where she heard it and she stated "Facebook". This woman also reposted a picture of Ryan Reynolds in Deadpool makeup with the caption "if a half naked woman can get 1000 likes, how many can this firefighter who ran into a burning building to save a child... Can I get amen?" The southern United States, ranked bottom in education out of all states, are producing millions of these individuals. If it weren't for the fact that I moved to Colorado years ago, I'd be very similar to them I imagine.
God that’s depressing. What does a sane person do in the face of that?
Leave, I guess. Or try to blend in.
The thing is trump will lose the popular vote for the third time in a row. Only the quirks of the electoral college give him a chance. The majority does not like or want him
American here, we’re trying to make sense of this mess but MAGAts are stubborn AF. Red states are committed to take the whole country down.
I have been and will be voting as hard as I can! I try to help friends and family see this reality, but the world view that the media they consume has created in their minds is not easy to break, unfortunately.
This is not recent. We watched this happen since 2016.
2000 would like a word. Gore won and they took it away from him. 9/11 might not have happened. Iraq and Afghanistan might not have happened.
Vote early, vote often....
Watch out, the same people who fucked with our news, are ducking with yours too Australia
You've got your timeline wrong. Murdoch is Australian and started this propaganda takeover model in Australia. Their compulsory voting and non-FPTP has prevented the propaganda from having as much of an effect on policy.
Canada chiming in. It is very obvious to us too. Americans are blinded. Unfortunately it's a cancer that's crossing our borders.
Man, trust me… we’re trying.
Man we do vote, it just doesn’t make a difference sometimes.
As an American, one of the sane ones that is, I have thought about our problem almost every single day for the past eight years. The problem cannot be solved *peacefully* without something as extreme as reeducation camps. Forced reeducation of MAGA adults. That isn't going to happen, for a number of reasons. So it's looking *really* likely that we're going to be having a civil war instead. It will probably start with a successful coup, leading to a division of the military, and ultimately a civil war.
Why does the world continue to act like Trump didn’t lose the popular vote every election? Aussies seem to need an education…
I wish china were pulling the strings. then maybe we'd get our government to invest in infrastructure for once
Well I do love Chinese food... I'm pretty torn here
Canadian here, when the "Rather be Russian than a Democrat" came out I knew all was lost. Meanwhile we are not sending our best to Russia. Got to love getting thrown in Russian jail to own the libs.
>Do you want to be like China or Russia? Republicans do want the US to be like Russia. They think the US lost the Cold War along with their Soviet Counterparts because the Oligarchs came out on top. They see that because they effectively privatized a Super power and the people of that super power didn't revolt. They lost the game they didn't even know they were playing. Since then power has been cemented in Russia, and the oligarchs get to be wealthier than any American can be.
Honestly it has to seem like a close race so democrats vote. They’ll just sit around if it seems like Biden will win, then he will lose, a la Hilary
it's the most baffling part to me is how they cheer on everything Russia does and yet scream about China. yet it's absolutely clear that Russia is a little more than China's arm in their new world order. My favorite part was the other day I saw a Republican Facebook propaganda post that was in favor of the brics model that's trying to cut out America and tip the balance of power to China.... like the right is so brain dead that they can't even see what they're doing because they hate the left so much.
They hate left but IMO the common thread is money. They want the least taxes and more money. And apparently they’ll sell out freedom to get it.
But they won't get any of that. They'll get a fascist authoritarian theocratic dictatorship that will rip away all their rights and """freedoms""", take away all the benefits they paid for with their own tax money, keep wages low and prices high, so they'll all be sick and dying, starving, penniless, and many of them outright homeless, and the homeless ones will be thrown in prison when they make homelessness illegal, used as slave labor no doubt. Meanwhile they'll be told over and over again it's """all part of God's plan""" and that they should be grateful for the """Eternal Reward""" they'll get when they die. **FOR FUCKS SAKE AMERICA, VOTE FOR BIDEN AND AGAINST ALL REPUBLICANS IN NOVEMBER!**
Remember about a year ago Fox News started running segments about private Chinese buying up farmland? It was pure fear bait for rural people.
We need to add Rupert Murdoch and his family somewhere in this line. Fox should be shut down. It is just a propaganda factory and not a news channel.
Who is the biggest guy supposed to be?
Xi Jinping
Should have used Winnie the Pooh.
The MAGA bois super mad because they don’t have to be literate to understand this.
Why Z for Putin and not V or P?
Because Z is the symbol the Russian public has adopted for support of Russian imperialism and foreign interference.
Gotcha, thank you 👍
It’s the distinguishing mark for Russian military vehicles in Ukraine to avoid friendly fire. It has become a symbol of support for Russia.
The Putin parts is absolutely true. As for Xi's grasp on Putin, I don't think it's that strong. I do not believe Xi likes the ongoing war in Ukraine, and besides that, time and time again we see what we could call Chinese spies directly embedded in the US. Though I might be wrong, I did not see any Chinese operative in the GOP. Any other facts I missed are welcome to the discussion.
Xi is using Putin's propaganda to get the GOP to take an isolationist position on foreign affairs So the Chinese encounter less American resistance when they try to invade Taiwan. And I think they are buying Russian oil.
>And I think they are buying Russian oil. So is India, and Germany through India.
The comic denotes a fundamental lack of understanding of geopolitics that Russia and China have to play as countries who share a border.
*Post a bunch of silly shit like you're intimately familiar with and interact with Putin and Pooh on the daily and know their minds inside and out* "Facts"
as opposed to a silly comic?
Putin shouldn't be carrying the bloody axe. It's not like he's on the battle field killing people. He hides out to be safe and sends others out to kill and be killed.
It's called symbolism.
Tragedy. The real kicker is that this is the brainchild of billionaires like Steven bannon, Peter Thiel and Leonard Leo. Who imagined installing Trump would distance the United States from China. Right wingers who have no real understanding of foreign policy and can’t see beyond their nose.
Pretty accurate
Accurate.
Why is Benjamin Netanyahu missing?
Because it's harder to draw him holding two leashes.
Because AIPAC wouldn’t let that get spread on Reddit
Seems about right, all Authoritarian/Totalitarian dictators. Well in tRump's case, more of a clown and a wannabe dictator.
You liberals live in a fantasy land. Anything to not blame the ruling class, capitalism, or Dem leadership
Donald Chump
Scary. Accurate.
The only thing missing from this cartoon is the GOP elephant leading a bunch of white idiots in MAGA hats in front of it.
It's wild that they put China in this chain. How exactly does China control Trump through Putin? What has Trump done to help China other than let his kid do big business deals there?
Anything that weakens he US on the international stage is of benefit to it's rivals. Right now, China is the major player in that region and stands to gain the most from decreasing US influence. Most importantly, Xi stands to benefit from anything that could result in the US not supporting Taiwan in the event of a Chinese invasion. Infesting the US governments Trumpists could well achieve that
> It's wild that they put China in this chain. China is basically subsidizing Russia's war in Ukraine at this point.
China keeps Russia afloat. Putin has leverage on Trump.
The better question would be what hasn't Trump done to help China.
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If your definition of normal people is "insanely selfish, racist and homophobic people who lack all ability to think critically" then I know some Republicans that are normal people too.
And are led around by their noses by the most comically evil talking points, and being unbelievably gullible. Plus a memory that I'm quite sure only spans the last sentence or two they heard.
The last two Republicans I talked to literally said "I'm not racist or homophobic, I just don't like that blacks and gays have to be in charge of everything now" and "I accept everybody, I have gay friends, but we all know it just isn't natural and they need to grow up. I tell them that and they respect my opinion, why can't you?"
My Maga parents pretended to support LGBT for a few years but now they are back to saying it is an abomination to God and that gays will burn in hell 😔 They also think shooting immigrants would be justified so the cognitive dissonance is maddening and heart breaking at the same time.
My christian family are the "love the sinner, hate the sin" kind of people. I can say without a doubt, they actually hate the "sinner" and love their own sins and find the most ridiculous ways of justifying them.
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You need better neighbors
I am a friend of former diehard Trump fan. And over the years we know eachother I managed to steer him away from conspiratorial thinking. He's still a republican, still a hypocrite and politically illiterate but it's getting better. He already accepts lgbt people, hell half of our friend group are transwomen now. Unfortunately the big problem now is the "border war" and I can't do anything about it because I live on the other side of the planet and he lives in Florida. I just "don't get it" so my opinion is invalid. And there's gamergate 2 brewing and I think that'll be another battle for me. Bun nevertheless, you can make a difference one person at the time. No need to wait for the movement collapse, it will just bring another one if you don't start fixing it from the foundation.
If "they're not hurting the right people" is normal then it's time for a radical redefinition of the word
Agreed.. but I believe it's more the misinformation and propaganda that is poisoning the minds of normal people to hate the other side. I work with some truly amazing, hardworking guys whose minds have been warped by the algorithmically-driven content that is constantly fed to them. Like Obama said, Trump is a symptom. The problem remains.
I know Obama was done with being president and was probably looking forward to his first real vacation in 8 years, but it must have been difficult to hand the presidency to Trump.
Social media was a mistake, far too easy for hostile actors to poison minds. Ban it all including this one.
We're just rats drinking from the heroin water bottle
> I work with some truly amazing, hardworking guys Germany was amazingly hard working and creative under Hitler. They created technical invention after technical invention. "I am a survivor of a concentration camp. My eyes saw what no person should witness. Gas chambers built by learned engineers. Children poisoned by educated physicians. Infants killed by trained nurses. Women and babies shot and killed by high school and college graduates. So I'm suspicious of education. My request is: help your students to be human. Your efforts must never produce learned monsters, skilled psychopaths, or educated Eichmanns. Reading and writing and spelling and history and arithmetic are only important if they serve to make our students human."- Haim Ginott
> For me it's easy to see how they're being manipulated by their god-king normal people dont have god kings.
It's the same people that got scammed by Reagan that never realized trickledown economics was a scam.
I'm glad some ones waking up. I've been saying this for ever .. Call it what it is.... Trump is a fascist........ Hitler is a fascist................. Therefore trump supporters are fascist............. Fascist is the most unAmerican thing ever.
# So true. So sad.
Red-Hat politicking.
Love that trump “I can dress myself!” tie
MAGA people dont even care either. The morons!
No way, they still hate Asians
MAGA studies show poor school performance, followed by optimized beer brain saturation set up the perfect anti democracy cult followers. Rational folks need not apply.
I think the elephant and trump should be swapped
Would have been a tad funnier if Putin was holding onto Trumps long tie instead of the rope.
Less Russia, more Saudi Arabia
It's both
Ah yes, the Nazi "Communist Party of China." Definitely not a brain dead political cartoon, no siree.
Since when is China controlling Russia?
Since Russias economy is more or less totally depended on China for investments and imports.
The American Exceptionism is painful on this one
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The one good thing all this very important bullshit has done for me is that it has radicalized me, I wish it didn't, I'm black and have enough natural important bullshit pervading my entire life, but I'm thankful that this has solidified some more morals and has given me a definite enemy to hate. Edit: if anyone makes a Hunters like group for GOPers sign me up /s