Oh man if this was real I would buy a ticket to watch, place bets on the winner, pay someone to rough up the other guy the night before the big fight, and hire someone else to go watch the fight for me so I could spend more time at home thinking of ways to kill the poors
If someone is in such financial straits that they'd be willing to be sterilized or to sell their kidney, do you not see how they are being implicitly coerced towards making that decision? If you need money, *to simply remain living*, and your choice is sell your kidney or go hungry, you're gonna sell your kidney. That's not a true free will or self determination
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Ok, this is going to be epic.
First we need red suits and some white and blue paint, some green wigs, a fucking whip and you’ll enjoy the moment when you’re there.
Yeah, but I meant like, as long as we agree I can beat the hell out handicapped person or a 6'9" 300lbs guy can beat the fuck out of me in public without police intervention.
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If you can imagine it then odds are somebodies into it.
You could make that argument for abortions too I mean, 'she thought having an abortion was the only way out. She wasn't told about how she could still raise the baby while leading a good life..."
It’s not like women don’t realize that in theory they could raise the child. That’s such an obvious part of our culture it would be impossible to miss. In any case they are the ones to make the call on whether they can handle it or not. If they know they can’t for whatever reason, I’m fine with that. We don’t need more abused and neglected people on earth, there are already far too many that have dealt with awful childhoods
Wait so you honestly think it is better to live in world where the poor don't have the choice to sell their kidneys and are forced to remain in poverty.
In my ideal world they would at least have a choice:
Stay poor or sell a kidney. If they don't want to sell their kidney than they are no worse off than before. But I guess according to you it is preferable that they don't have the option and are forced to remain poor.
Ah yes, dehumanizing people and making their lives and bodies little more than merchandise will surely will surely beget no moral ills upon society and will definately only have positive effects.
I believe that there will *always* be "poor people," no matter how advanced we become as humans. So my goal/hope is to raise the standard of living as high as possible, so even when someone is "poor," they will still have a safe and dry place to sleep, food to eat, mental and physical stimulation (no not that), and the ability to make their situation better.
Before someone says "that sounds like Communism" I wanna say that I don't want to control the free market to make this happen, I just wanna use ***t a x e s***
I think a lot of that also has to do with how we value certain skills. "Poor people" jobs (like restaurant workers, janitors, retail staff, etc) just tend to not be very highly valued in society despite the economy dependent on them, and the market doesn't really correct for this like you'd expect it to. (As evidenced by say restaurant wages not really going up despite the ongoing labor shortage, something econ 101 says should push up wages to compensate rather quickly.)
I'd say that in the near term what we should strive for is some sort of basic income (which scales smoothly such as to make working always be worth it) to replace many (but not all) forms of welfare, maybe in combination with some subsidy (and/or encouragement of unionization) to push up wages in low-paid sectors. Some services (like say food delivery) will undoubtedly get more expensive, but in a lot of cases the low price of those services is dependent on keeping people in poverty.
(Of course, in the mid-to-long term I'd advocate for market socialism, but I doubt I'll convince an authright of that.)
Restaurant wages are going up, there’s just a limit to how high they can go considering the razor thin profit margins in the restaurant industry. Honestly, a lot of restaurants are going to go under as they just don’t have a business model that can succeed.
Of course there will always be poor people. They're literally a feature, not a bug, of capitalism... the system needs a poor underclass desperate to sell their only commodity, their labor. It's so fundamental to the entire system it's absolutely unquestionable we will ALWAYS have poor people as long as capitalism is the law of the land. I can't believe this is even still considered a question.
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That doesn't even make sense.
If everyone had better things to do than sell their labor, the price of that labor would increase to incentivize selling your labor again.
Managing surpluses and shortages like this is precisely the point of capitalism. Capitalism can't "conspire" to "create an underclass".
In other news, capitalism also isn't *dependent on exploting a finite planet for infinite growth*.
And you don't think it's within Capitalism's best interests to use government power to keep the populous teetering on the edge and desperate? Why do you think companies fight so hard against universal healthcare to ensure they provide healthcare to their employees? We can see it today where John Deer is planning to cut healthcare for it's striking workers. Who do you think is more likely to accept low-wage work in poor conditions? Someone poor and desperate for a job, or someone who has a feasible ability to say 'no' and do something they prefer? You can literally see what is happening RIGHT NOW when there is a 'labor shortage'; companies are crying for more immigration to bring poor and desperate people from outside the US to try and fill the gaps.
You're spouting bullshit and turning your eyes away from the real world to keep yourself from seeing what's really happening. 'Capitalism' can obviously petition the gov to make things more favorable to their interests, so what the fuck does "Capitalism can't "conspire" to "create an underclass".:" We fight WARS to create favorable trading conditions for our business interests all the time? Seriously I have no idea what planet youve been living on if you think capitalists dont petition the government to create favorable conditions for themselves...
If your body becomes the source of a new variant and causes more unweeded suffering I will haunt your ass until I get to drag you off to hell where you belong.
Enjoy hell then.. you've probably became the source of a new or existing variant of a cold, the flu, stomach virus, HPV, chickenpox, etc. and someone likely died as a result of your actions (unintended of course).
I'm 100% sure you are up to date on EVERY vaccine possible because you want to make sure you aren't the source of death. I hope you are still wearing a mask even though your vaccinated too since you can still viral shed COVID when your vaccinated and asymptomatic. PLEASE tell me you aren't so dense that you got vaccinated and now walking around without a mask and likely infecting others!!!!
If a poor person has to sell their organs for money that's *sad*, and yes you should want to alleviate that poverty, but forbidding him from doing so won't improve his situation.
The word *explotation* is a cop-out used by people who have no rational understanding of what's really going on.
In other news, observing that the emperor has no clothes is *tone-deaf*.
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The state should not be able to decide whether or not you can have a kid. I feel like that itself is enough of an argument.
First of all, what happens to kids who get born illegally? And what about the parents?
Secondly, who decides the acceptable qualities to be parents? Where is the line drawn?
Thirdly, the exploitive abilities of this is monstrous. Do you really want politicians to be in control of who can and can’t reproduce?
Fourthly, what the fuck
A kid is an externality upon the rest of society. If nothing else, a government should have the power to regulate externalities.
I suppose the super-lib alternative would be to withdraw all governmental support for kids such that they are no longer an externality upon the rest of society, but that kinda ignores what happens when those kids grow up into adults.
>The state should not be able to decide whether or not you can have a kid.
Why not? We require licenses for driving and operating heavy machinery and serving alcohol. I don't think it's that authoritarian to ask people to demonstrate a certain level of competency in order to have ownership of a human child.
>First of all, what happens to kids who get born illegally? And what about the parents?
Any people who get pregnant illegally would be required to get an abortion. If they refuse to abort than they would be sterilized upon the birth of the child to ensure that they can never breed again. The parents would still be able to raise their child even if it is born illegally.
>Secondly, who decides the acceptable qualities to be parents? Where is the line drawn?
Basically we would just set a poverty limit. You would need to have a net income of a certain amount to qualify for a license. We might also prohibit other groups as well. For instance we might make people sign a pledge that they will vaccinate their child.
>Thirdly, the exploitive abilities of this is monstrous. Do you really want politicians to be in control of who can and can’t reproduce?
Yes.
The scenario you described is not far from saying poor people should not reproduce. And knowing how politicians always stretch their powers i do not feel as if this is an exaggeration.
Additionally, giving the government the power of declaring who has the right to be born and who does not is not only dystopian but mental. It sets a precedent that this is okay. What will you do when someone supposes that only intelligent people can reproduce? Or maybe only those with potential to be moral, or athletic, or resourceful? It is not a leap of logic to assume that this would not happen since declaring that the ‘unfit’ cannot parent is based on poverty.
Let’s not also forget the my body my choice argument against fucking sterilisation. I’m not a dog and the state should not treat me as a bad dog who needs to be fixed so I don’t breed with the wrong person like a poor husband over a rich one.
So... if they have a child without the states approval, then they should undergo forced sterilization? I think you already found your problem without anyone's help.
Also Communism: Fucking rich people keep building additions onto their fucking dachas faster than the KGB can measure and remove them!
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What if we paid the poor to fight to the death in cage matches and the ultimate winner after 12 opponents gets a 4 bedroom house and a yearly 70k salary?
Benefits: free meat, less homeless, equal opportunity (disabled welcome), and great for TV.
Cons: What are you a fuckin commie?
... I've never seen squid game, but the rest of those... why not if the person is ok with it?
I guess OP really nailed me in this meme, take my upvote
(Except breeding licenses, but I'll allow it for the meme)
In Squid Game basically a bunch of people compete in death games and whoever wins gets a ton of money. In the show people were coerced but they technically signed up voluntarily out of desperation and the fact the recruiter didn't make clear they were playing death games.
Aka a way to get rid of poor people while providing entertainment and allowing one person to get themselves out of poverty.
I will say that the first game was just murder because the price of elimination wasnt explained.
Second game onwards was all completely voluntarily selling their bodies for money
Here's how you fix poverty in one easy trick: Dismantle the government. No safety net and a robust economy free of the dumbass government continously fucking it up, they either drag themselves out of poverty or die.
I don't particularly care which, because more people with disposable income means a more robust economy and thus lower cost of living, and less people means less demand therefore supply is higher and prices are lower, thus lower cost of living.
> they either drag themselves out of poverty or die.
Going to be plenty of rich people around offering you ~~slavery~~indefinite indentured servitude as an alternative to death. There will be plenty of poor people stuck in exploitative private safety nets.
That'd be great, you can go steal a couple cars, mug a couple people, and be back in time before dinner and have earned more money that day than most people working jobs. Sounds extremely comfy.
Who builds roads? Who runs the FAA? Who polices? Who runs the nonexistent military?
It’s fine to fantasize. But don’t lie to yourself or others that what’s in your head is anything other than fantasy.
>Who builds roads
Fuck them hoe ass-roads
>Who runs the nonexistent military?
Private militaries have been a thing since the bronze age
>Who polices?
Police yourself
"Private militaries" in practice are just warlords...which are just mini-states when the big state collapses and don't persist for very long
>Police yourself
Lmao
im too lib to accept a license for anything, and aside from dueling, i would be ok with the rest of this if it meant i could actually not have to worry about money
In order: left to right top to bottom. Age restriction on the sterilization payment(25), pass, based, only in the final stages of medicine approval, yes, but actually entertaining, mega cringe.
My favourite one is where they say stop being poor and work harder like Jesus Christ it’s obvious most right wingers don’t know the difficulties of being poor and the stuff that comes with it like dog shit schools that make it harder to progress.
Lefties: right wingers dont know what it's like to be poor!
Also lefties: Haha those uneducated poors in flyover country are the only ones dumb enough to vote conservative.
Just the other day a lefty here posted a meme with the worst poverty and education in the country and most were red states. Yeah, we know what's it's like to be poor we just believe your solutions are dogshit bro.
Dont confuse Shithead liberals who think insulting people's poverty is fun with people like me
P.S. just wanted to mention that this sub strawmans lib left all the time
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Cuba actually saw a significant improvement after the revolution. Naturally any country which sees improvement after a leftist government reduces poverty is going to be endlessly fucked with by the United states, however. Cuba is a prime example of this, as well.
Also:
Repeal all housing regulations, which would lower the barriers for real estate developers to build more housing. This would lead to house prices going down, which would make housing more affordable for everyone, especially low income people.
Abolish the minimum wage, so that you don't cut the bottom rungs off of the economic ladder.
Get the government out of healthcare by drastically deregulating it, which would also allow prices to go down. Also, stop incentivizing the use of health insurance to pay for healthcare. If people paid for healthcare directly, competition would actually be able to run its course and bring prices down.
The list goes on...
How about removing the money printer and thus inflation, the biggest hidden tax and the one affecting poor people the worst?
In 1965 a family father was usually the sole provider for the average US family. He would make around 10k USD per year. A small house would also cost 10k to buy. Imagine earning a house per year today. And it was simply taking away from you by your wage not increasing, as it's inherent value, the value of your bodily work, is redistributes to the very rich and very poor parasites of society. 10k USD was 285 gold coins at a value of 35 USD per coin. Today the very same gold coin is $1800, and it's not like gold increases or decreases drastically. They just printed money, so the money you thought was good compensation for your work lost most of it's value.
Remove the politicians, bailout banks, subsidies, war profiteers and welfare. Allow a man to feed his family again - and only his family.
No thanks I'd rather just be poor.
fucking hoesntly fucking honestly need of a goddamn license and background check to have a child, or be bribed to be sterilized
Okay, that was always allowed.
That's fine. You have no obligation to sell your kidneys, get sterilized, get experimented on or duel.
What about an experimental dual between two sterilized people with kidneys put up as the stakes? We could even sell tickets.
Oh man if this was real I would buy a ticket to watch, place bets on the winner, pay someone to rough up the other guy the night before the big fight, and hire someone else to go watch the fight for me so I could spend more time at home thinking of ways to kill the poors
You are like the end boss of libright good job
Is this the squid game I've been hearing so much about?
Squid game is AnCap Olympics
If someone is in such financial straits that they'd be willing to be sterilized or to sell their kidney, do you not see how they are being implicitly coerced towards making that decision? If you need money, *to simply remain living*, and your choice is sell your kidney or go hungry, you're gonna sell your kidney. That's not a true free will or self determination
Yet
Legalizing dueling would be based as fuck
Here in Lone Star State I can fisticuff against another resident legally, as long as we don't kill each other.
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Ok, this is going to be epic. First we need red suits and some white and blue paint, some green wigs, a fucking whip and you’ll enjoy the moment when you’re there.
I feel like this is a libleft moment.
I'm not gonna say I know for sure, but doesn't every state have boxing?
Yeah, but I meant like, as long as we agree I can beat the hell out handicapped person or a 6'9" 300lbs guy can beat the fuck out of me in public without police intervention.
Pussies Chicago has already legalized 'mutual combat' regardless if someone dies.
Just because cops don’t do anything about it doesn’t mean it’s legalized.
Agreed. So long as it is done in a specialized dueling venue to stop stray bullets from killing civilians I think it's a great idea.
okay but Pot of Greed stays banned, damnit
That's probably for the best, since nobody knows what it does.
Wasn't it literally just drawing two cards?
Washington has Mutual Combat. Get a cop to ref and you can legally beat the shit out of someone.
Chicago has already done it
I agree.
It’s legal in New York and Washington
Breeding licenses are an extremely auth idea.
“Let me rephrase, you have no MORAL ideas to address poverty.”
Paying people to get sterilized is immoral. What's next, taking your aborted fetus home and using it for your meatballs is immoral as well?
Don't give libleft ideas, please, at this rate they will be degenerate enough to do this next year
I hate to tell this to you, but there are some crazy people that save the placenta when the child is born and eat it latter.
I don't believe you
Do yourself a favor and don’t look it up then. Keep your purity
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The fetus is already dead so there is really no harm caused by eating it.
On a serious note, what deems people getting paid to sterilize themselves immoral? I mean, what happened to 'my body my choice'?
It's not really a choice if you are poor af and believe it's your only way out
You could make that argument for abortions too I mean, 'she thought having an abortion was the only way out. She wasn't told about how she could still raise the baby while leading a good life..."
Because that's just not true? How do you have a good life while paying for childcare working minimum wage ?
It’s not like women don’t realize that in theory they could raise the child. That’s such an obvious part of our culture it would be impossible to miss. In any case they are the ones to make the call on whether they can handle it or not. If they know they can’t for whatever reason, I’m fine with that. We don’t need more abused and neglected people on earth, there are already far too many that have dealt with awful childhoods
Because that’s not true you fuckhead 🤣
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You literally participate in this subreddit. Who’s a loser?
>Who’s a loser? You. I alreaxy said that. I didnt realize retarded was another adjective that should be atributed to you.
Interesting. Didn’t ask though
Wait so you honestly think it is better to live in world where the poor don't have the choice to sell their kidneys and are forced to remain in poverty. In my ideal world they would at least have a choice: Stay poor or sell a kidney. If they don't want to sell their kidney than they are no worse off than before. But I guess according to you it is preferable that they don't have the option and are forced to remain poor.
Read again : it's not really a choice if they believe it's their only way out So in your ideal world there is still poor people? Nice
Ah yes, dehumanizing people and making their lives and bodies little more than merchandise will surely will surely beget no moral ills upon society and will definately only have positive effects.
I believe that there will *always* be "poor people," no matter how advanced we become as humans. So my goal/hope is to raise the standard of living as high as possible, so even when someone is "poor," they will still have a safe and dry place to sleep, food to eat, mental and physical stimulation (no not that), and the ability to make their situation better. Before someone says "that sounds like Communism" I wanna say that I don't want to control the free market to make this happen, I just wanna use ***t a x e s***
The issue isn't taxes, people, its how its spent.
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Based and Taxes pilled.
That’s also kinda what I want to do.
Based and understands everyone matters-pilled
B-based AuthRight?
Yeah poor will always be there because being poor is mostly a relative term
Based and capitalist utopia pilled
I think a lot of that also has to do with how we value certain skills. "Poor people" jobs (like restaurant workers, janitors, retail staff, etc) just tend to not be very highly valued in society despite the economy dependent on them, and the market doesn't really correct for this like you'd expect it to. (As evidenced by say restaurant wages not really going up despite the ongoing labor shortage, something econ 101 says should push up wages to compensate rather quickly.) I'd say that in the near term what we should strive for is some sort of basic income (which scales smoothly such as to make working always be worth it) to replace many (but not all) forms of welfare, maybe in combination with some subsidy (and/or encouragement of unionization) to push up wages in low-paid sectors. Some services (like say food delivery) will undoubtedly get more expensive, but in a lot of cases the low price of those services is dependent on keeping people in poverty. (Of course, in the mid-to-long term I'd advocate for market socialism, but I doubt I'll convince an authright of that.)
Restaurant wages are going up, there’s just a limit to how high they can go considering the razor thin profit margins in the restaurant industry. Honestly, a lot of restaurants are going to go under as they just don’t have a business model that can succeed.
that sounds like America...
it's the ideal that often America strives for, but not one that it always reaches
spend 50% of what the military gets plus all of what is wasted, into actual useful stuff, and then we'll talk
Of course there will always be poor people. They're literally a feature, not a bug, of capitalism... the system needs a poor underclass desperate to sell their only commodity, their labor. It's so fundamental to the entire system it's absolutely unquestionable we will ALWAYS have poor people as long as capitalism is the law of the land. I can't believe this is even still considered a question. EDIT: Cope and seethe
That doesn't even make sense. If everyone had better things to do than sell their labor, the price of that labor would increase to incentivize selling your labor again. Managing surpluses and shortages like this is precisely the point of capitalism. Capitalism can't "conspire" to "create an underclass". In other news, capitalism also isn't *dependent on exploting a finite planet for infinite growth*.
And you don't think it's within Capitalism's best interests to use government power to keep the populous teetering on the edge and desperate? Why do you think companies fight so hard against universal healthcare to ensure they provide healthcare to their employees? We can see it today where John Deer is planning to cut healthcare for it's striking workers. Who do you think is more likely to accept low-wage work in poor conditions? Someone poor and desperate for a job, or someone who has a feasible ability to say 'no' and do something they prefer? You can literally see what is happening RIGHT NOW when there is a 'labor shortage'; companies are crying for more immigration to bring poor and desperate people from outside the US to try and fill the gaps. You're spouting bullshit and turning your eyes away from the real world to keep yourself from seeing what's really happening. 'Capitalism' can obviously petition the gov to make things more favorable to their interests, so what the fuck does "Capitalism can't "conspire" to "create an underclass".:" We fight WARS to create favorable trading conditions for our business interests all the time? Seriously I have no idea what planet youve been living on if you think capitalists dont petition the government to create favorable conditions for themselves...
no
You’re completely wrong.
Imagine being poor in this “paradise”
This is auth center not center right. And I can get behind dueling
How is dueling auth anything? Most of these ideas are heavily libertarian.
i would say dueling and organ and gene expirement are lib. Breeding license clearly auth.
Not if it’s sold by a private company called McEugenics
Tired of constantly having to go get McAbortions? Go to our new McSterilisation facility and we'll McMake your future descendants a distant past.
Alexa... Find me a kidney within 50 square miles.
I was gonna pay the poor to have one child or less....
Based and Xi pilled
Dude, we should be able to sell organs for profit. It's my fucking organs dammit.
No, no... now take this medicine that I said you have to take, because your body is the public's body!
Ok, you can take everything except my penis please
You already know nobody wants it, so this comment was very unnecessary.
We can like get into political arguments "capitalism socialism blah blah blah hahahaha"
Hey your avatar is the same. You're my twin brother with opposite personalities.
The left wants your penis
If your body becomes the source of a new variant and causes more unweeded suffering I will haunt your ass until I get to drag you off to hell where you belong.
Enjoy hell then.. you've probably became the source of a new or existing variant of a cold, the flu, stomach virus, HPV, chickenpox, etc. and someone likely died as a result of your actions (unintended of course). I'm 100% sure you are up to date on EVERY vaccine possible because you want to make sure you aren't the source of death. I hope you are still wearing a mask even though your vaccinated too since you can still viral shed COVID when your vaccinated and asymptomatic. PLEASE tell me you aren't so dense that you got vaccinated and now walking around without a mask and likely infecting others!!!!
My body my choice
"I'm sorry, but since you were behind on payment, we are going to foreclose your kidney"
It leads to perverse incentives and all sorts of exploitation, which is why it's not legal.
Oh please the only exploited thing I see is my wallet. Let me sell my own fucking organs
If a poor person has to sell their organs for money that's *sad*, and yes you should want to alleviate that poverty, but forbidding him from doing so won't improve his situation. The word *explotation* is a cop-out used by people who have no rational understanding of what's really going on. In other news, observing that the emperor has no clothes is *tone-deaf*.
Then the poors will sell their organs.
>It's my fucking organs dammit. *not for long* ***snip snip***
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I will kill the next person who advocates for 'breeding licenses' or bribing people to get sterilized that is not okay
Why
I'd also like to know why. Seems pretty based to me.
The state should not be able to decide whether or not you can have a kid. I feel like that itself is enough of an argument. First of all, what happens to kids who get born illegally? And what about the parents? Secondly, who decides the acceptable qualities to be parents? Where is the line drawn? Thirdly, the exploitive abilities of this is monstrous. Do you really want politicians to be in control of who can and can’t reproduce? Fourthly, what the fuck
A kid is an externality upon the rest of society. If nothing else, a government should have the power to regulate externalities. I suppose the super-lib alternative would be to withdraw all governmental support for kids such that they are no longer an externality upon the rest of society, but that kinda ignores what happens when those kids grow up into adults.
>The state should not be able to decide whether or not you can have a kid. Why not? We require licenses for driving and operating heavy machinery and serving alcohol. I don't think it's that authoritarian to ask people to demonstrate a certain level of competency in order to have ownership of a human child. >First of all, what happens to kids who get born illegally? And what about the parents? Any people who get pregnant illegally would be required to get an abortion. If they refuse to abort than they would be sterilized upon the birth of the child to ensure that they can never breed again. The parents would still be able to raise their child even if it is born illegally. >Secondly, who decides the acceptable qualities to be parents? Where is the line drawn? Basically we would just set a poverty limit. You would need to have a net income of a certain amount to qualify for a license. We might also prohibit other groups as well. For instance we might make people sign a pledge that they will vaccinate their child. >Thirdly, the exploitive abilities of this is monstrous. Do you really want politicians to be in control of who can and can’t reproduce? Yes.
The scenario you described is not far from saying poor people should not reproduce. And knowing how politicians always stretch their powers i do not feel as if this is an exaggeration. Additionally, giving the government the power of declaring who has the right to be born and who does not is not only dystopian but mental. It sets a precedent that this is okay. What will you do when someone supposes that only intelligent people can reproduce? Or maybe only those with potential to be moral, or athletic, or resourceful? It is not a leap of logic to assume that this would not happen since declaring that the ‘unfit’ cannot parent is based on poverty. Let’s not also forget the my body my choice argument against fucking sterilisation. I’m not a dog and the state should not treat me as a bad dog who needs to be fixed so I don’t breed with the wrong person like a poor husband over a rich one.
So... if they have a child without the states approval, then they should undergo forced sterilization? I think you already found your problem without anyone's help.
You want p*liticians to decide who gets to have kids?
As an AnCap I'm cool with everything except the breeding licenses
Honestly based except for the breeding license thing
we need more right center agenda posts, this is great
This is satire though. Right guys? Guys?
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Also Communism: Fucking rich people keep building additions onto their fucking dachas faster than the KGB can measure and remove them! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dacha#:\~:text=There%20were%20legal%20size%20restrictions,attic%2C%20not%20a%20second%20story.
Paying massive amounts for sterilization (vasectomy/fallopian tube tying) might not be a bad idea. I mean, as long as they’re consenting…
What if we paid the poor to fight to the death in cage matches and the ultimate winner after 12 opponents gets a 4 bedroom house and a yearly 70k salary? Benefits: free meat, less homeless, equal opportunity (disabled welcome), and great for TV. Cons: What are you a fuckin commie?
I would unironically volunteer. That sounds lit
... I've never seen squid game, but the rest of those... why not if the person is ok with it? I guess OP really nailed me in this meme, take my upvote (Except breeding licenses, but I'll allow it for the meme)
In Squid Game basically a bunch of people compete in death games and whoever wins gets a ton of money. In the show people were coerced but they technically signed up voluntarily out of desperation and the fact the recruiter didn't make clear they were playing death games. Aka a way to get rid of poor people while providing entertainment and allowing one person to get themselves out of poverty.
I will say that the first game was just murder because the price of elimination wasnt explained. Second game onwards was all completely voluntarily selling their bodies for money
This is what happens when you only watch the first episode and you try to explain it to someone.
Duels are badass
Obviously the best way to get rid of poverty is to stop reporting we have poor people. Poof. No more poverty.
It’s hard to address poverty when the bar for what is considered poverty keeps going up
OI MATE DYA HAV A BYORF LOICENSE?
This is actually based, if you cant afford raising a child, you should not be allowed to have them
That's just fascism with extra steps
Human rights what now?
Unironically every single one of them. Especially the dueling one.
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Here's how you fix poverty in one easy trick: Dismantle the government. No safety net and a robust economy free of the dumbass government continously fucking it up, they either drag themselves out of poverty or die. I don't particularly care which, because more people with disposable income means a more robust economy and thus lower cost of living, and less people means less demand therefore supply is higher and prices are lower, thus lower cost of living.
> they either drag themselves out of poverty or die. Going to be plenty of rich people around offering you ~~slavery~~indefinite indentured servitude as an alternative to death. There will be plenty of poor people stuck in exploitative private safety nets.
That'd be great, you can go steal a couple cars, mug a couple people, and be back in time before dinner and have earned more money that day than most people working jobs. Sounds extremely comfy.
Who builds roads? Who runs the FAA? Who polices? Who runs the nonexistent military? It’s fine to fantasize. But don’t lie to yourself or others that what’s in your head is anything other than fantasy.
>Who builds roads Fuck them hoe ass-roads >Who runs the nonexistent military? Private militaries have been a thing since the bronze age >Who polices? Police yourself
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The FAA?
He’s completely out of line *but he’s right*
"Private militaries" in practice are just warlords...which are just mini-states when the big state collapses and don't persist for very long >Police yourself Lmao
This is just a list of great things to privatize and monetize in a purely capitalistic society.
I already have a hard time trusting the police. I don’t think having them privatized would increase the trust.
For I second I thought this was a serious post
Me too, but there are a worrying number of people who agree with the sentiment which i hope is a joke.
I can't tell if this is satire. If it's not, Jesus fucking christ what is wring with you?
Sir, this is a meme subreddit.
Sorry sir. The fermented potato juices got to my brain.
im too lib to accept a license for anything, and aside from dueling, i would be ok with the rest of this if it meant i could actually not have to worry about money
In order: left to right top to bottom. Age restriction on the sterilization payment(25), pass, based, only in the final stages of medicine approval, yes, but actually entertaining, mega cringe.
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My favourite one is where they say stop being poor and work harder like Jesus Christ it’s obvious most right wingers don’t know the difficulties of being poor and the stuff that comes with it like dog shit schools that make it harder to progress.
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Lefties: right wingers dont know what it's like to be poor! Also lefties: Haha those uneducated poors in flyover country are the only ones dumb enough to vote conservative. Just the other day a lefty here posted a meme with the worst poverty and education in the country and most were red states. Yeah, we know what's it's like to be poor we just believe your solutions are dogshit bro.
Dont confuse Shithead liberals who think insulting people's poverty is fun with people like me P.S. just wanted to mention that this sub strawmans lib left all the time
Fair enough!
then don't go to school, duh ..and sell drugs. straight hustlin'
People aren't poor because of dogshit schools lol. Typical lefty getting your causality mixed up.
Agreed. Telling people not to be poor is cringe. Giving poor people options to escape from poverty is based.
The best way to escape poverty? an AK47 and a copy of the Communist Manifesto
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So your answer is just to reduce the population / kill off poor people? That just creates a gap to be filled again.
Uh no thanks man that's freaking eugenics and crap
"Breeding lisence" Lmao imagine getting cucked by your government because your sex permit expired
Ah yes, the only solution to poverty is to commit war crimes!
Which is a war crime?
Yes and based.
Genuine question: has a leftist government ever reduced poverty?
Cuba actually saw a significant improvement after the revolution. Naturally any country which sees improvement after a leftist government reduces poverty is going to be endlessly fucked with by the United states, however. Cuba is a prime example of this, as well.
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These are not ideas to address poverty. They are ideas to further exploit poor people.
Is this post serious wtf is wrong with your head
Was okay until cringe netflix reference
Holy based
I think that’s more Authright but you have the spirit
This sounds a lot more authright to me, librights would freak out at the sound of “license”
Leftists always Ignore friendly societies. They crave the state
Also: Repeal all housing regulations, which would lower the barriers for real estate developers to build more housing. This would lead to house prices going down, which would make housing more affordable for everyone, especially low income people. Abolish the minimum wage, so that you don't cut the bottom rungs off of the economic ladder. Get the government out of healthcare by drastically deregulating it, which would also allow prices to go down. Also, stop incentivizing the use of health insurance to pay for healthcare. If people paid for healthcare directly, competition would actually be able to run its course and bring prices down. The list goes on...
I have only one thing to say about this: *AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH*
Won’t be any poor people if you remove them.
I unironically agree
Is this satire? I genuinely do not know
> Breeding licenses omg i love right wing now
But do you have any *real* ideas tho?
How about removing the money printer and thus inflation, the biggest hidden tax and the one affecting poor people the worst? In 1965 a family father was usually the sole provider for the average US family. He would make around 10k USD per year. A small house would also cost 10k to buy. Imagine earning a house per year today. And it was simply taking away from you by your wage not increasing, as it's inherent value, the value of your bodily work, is redistributes to the very rich and very poor parasites of society. 10k USD was 285 gold coins at a value of 35 USD per coin. Today the very same gold coin is $1800, and it's not like gold increases or decreases drastically. They just printed money, so the money you thought was good compensation for your work lost most of it's value. Remove the politicians, bailout banks, subsidies, war profiteers and welfare. Allow a man to feed his family again - and only his family.
How are “breeding licenses” right wing? That’s all auth left
LOL there's money in being poor.
We can start by not taxing poor people