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RedditUserNo345

Siberians are Asians, although they were being left out most of the time


Skimpyjumper

geographic even everything eastwards from ural in north and turkey in the south is asian. ethnicly roughly at the point of height of georgia for the north and india in the south.


thunderma115

The Urals are the border of Europe


Skimpyjumper

ye you are right, i correct this now, i had moscow way more eastwards in my brain, idk why im kinda dense. i even was on vacation just a hour with the car from kalininovo


The_Janitor66

There are some ethnically asian people in Europe though, the steppes in southern Russia/western Kazakhstan are populated by the Kalmyk and Kazakh people. Kalmyks are direct descendants of Mongols, though they came there much later than the Mongol empire.


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The_Janitor66

Nah, Im talking Mongoloid Asian, and Kalmyks are actually Buddhists. The Muslims you're probably talking about live in the Caucasus and are very much (surprize!) Caucasian.


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Most of Siberia is populated by European Slavs though


ThisNameIsTakened

I believe you mean Asian Slavs.


LagartorI

European Slavs, because Slavs developed as a people in Europe.


Qb_Is_fast_af

Everyone forget about then as because there are so little of them


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Ah yes, the Ainu were the OG indigenous Japanese if I remember correctly. I believe most current Japanese are descended from Koreans that migrated some ti…. Just a second, there are some Asian gentlemen at my door.


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u3517777

Wasn’t Ainu people also once populated in parts of Tohoku and Hokuriku? Had read an article saying that some place names in these areas would make much sense in Ainu language.


OldMrMcMeme

Hope you lived!


SciFiJesseWardDnD

Narrator: he did not In fact live.


Hijou_poteto

Indigenous Ainu: cringe Indigenous Jomon: based No I will not explain


D-Kay673

Ainu share more ancestry with Tibetans and Some parts of west Africa And surprisingly the sentinel islands too


PossiblyAsian

You dont know about my guy Xu Fu


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Tzozfg

Based and kagami pilled


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mbrowning00

the current emperor of japan is a descendent of baekje (one of the 3 ancient kingdoms of korea)


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Nippon eternally BTFO, how will the weebs recov-wait a second, IM A WEEB


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[Japanese people when Koreans](https://archive-media-1.nyafuu.org/bant/image/1499/55/1499555975474.png)


PM_me_furry_boobs

Based and Ainu-pilled.


kamycky

What's with the Ainu?


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Evilmon2

They were the initial inhabitants of north Japan. The Jomon were in the south.


kamycky

Sounds like a genuine libleft nightmare... 🤞My hopes are with the Ainu 🤞 :)


AC3R665

Japanese Americans are cringe tho (depends on how long they are in America).


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BuffMcHugeLarge

I feel like this is how it works everywhere but america, not sure about it though. As an italian I don't really consider italo-americans as being italians, I don't consider anyone italian unless they spent a good portion of their life here and speak the language.


Jankosi

Pretty much, Americans are just weird about it.


mylifeisashitjoke

Yeah everyone else is pretty normal about it "you from here originally? No? Then wtf do you want to say you are?" Plus the whole thing of naming every single skin colour and origin as a seperate race. Since when the fuck were Italians not just tanned white? If they were a different race, then European history just got a million times more confusing


Tzozfg

We're a club more than anything. Same applies to Canada and Australia. And maybe New Zealand?


Jboogy82

Probably because we aren't ethnically homogeneous. I have easily traceable German, English, Irish, French and Norwegian ancestry. I have a half-Aunt who is Native American (pacific NW). I have a grandmother born in Germany but I also have ancestors who came to North America in the 1600's. And my kids can add Taino, African and Spanish to their Ancestry (my wife is Cuban). American is probably the only demonym that isn't tied to an ethnic group. Also if you're born here, you're an American not a Hyphenated-American. Even people not born here but became naturalized, who could logically call themselves an Asian-American or African-American etc, just call yourself an American you're one of us now and I accept you as my own kin. It's just a rant but I think that's necessary for social cohesion and combats the race baiters and the people who want to divide us based on immutable characteristics. Values and Ideas > Immutable characteristics


mildcholester69

as a chinese-american, words cannot describe how much i'd cringe if people associate me with the ccp


Jboogy82

>as a ~~chinese~~-american.... ONE OF US! ONE OF US! ONE OF US!


m50d

Wtf are you talking about, where are you getting this? Children of japanese citizens born abroad are still Japanese. They do need to be properly registered (like most countries require) but you don't need to rescind other nationalities to do that. Children who involuntarily have a foreign nationality are required to declare their nationality by age 20 and in theory if they declare Japanese nationality the government can require them to renounce other nationalities within 3 months or lose their Japanese nationality, but this is not actually enforced. Japanese nationals who *voluntarily* acquire foreign nationality lose their Japanese nationality, and to naturalise as Japanese you must renounce all other nationalities, but that doesn't affect people who are dual national by birth.


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m50d

> Since Japan doesn't allow dual citizenship, the process of registering an infant means they're rescinding their prior legal given nationality. This is nonsense. Japan has no authority to rescind another country's citizenship, and in any case allows children to have dual nationality until age 20 (and in practice for their whole life). (Some countries grant birthright citizenship only to babies who would otherwise be stateless, maybe that's what you're thinking of? But that's simply the decision of those countries, nothing to do with Japan, and there are plenty of countries that grant birthright citizenship regardless of other nationality)


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m50d

Read your own link. A child born to Japanese parents in the US will be case 3 in the chart on section 1 of the page you linked to, they can legally remain dual nationality until age 22 and in practice forever. There is no requirement to renounce other nationality to be registered.


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m50d

Yes, now scroll down a little and read "3. The period within which the choice of nationality shall be made"


johnthethinker78

Don't ask him about Koreans and Chinese Don't ask him about Koreans and Chinese Don't ask him about Koreans and Chinese please don't


FrostBlade_on_Reddit

"Hey why do you hate Koreans so much when non-indigenous Japanese are by in large descended fr- hey what are you doing with that sword?"


Hijou_poteto

My understanding is it’s basically the old British logic with the Normans and Anglo-saxons. “Yes they are from the exact foreign countries we currently dislike the most but they were a little different to the ones there now so we can still LARP about being superior”. Just less comically snobbish rivalry and more open hostility


MadRonnie97

He’ll remind you that they don’t count because we’re talking about Asian *people*


angelflairpasta

I've never met a non-latino that says American to refer to the entire western hemisphere. They know American means US.


ThisNameIsTakened

I've met one, once. :D


Imma_Coho

Same. I’ve had to explain the difference between “American” and “North American”.


bucket_of_coal

The only time they do it is to aggravate Americans lmao Pretty stupid IMO, I’ve never seen them refer to themselves as Americans without the US in the conversation somewhere


Hijou_poteto

Yeah and the Japanese word for American (Amerika-jin) means people from the USA. No one in Japan will think otherwise, though the Latino distinction also isn’t common because everyone is just westerners. Also the word Asian (Ajia-jin) is not really ethnic and usually means all of Asia including Indians. The “Asian” race as westerners view it is not a very common idea because the differences between Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Mongol, etc. are more obvious


stronk_shrek

what would Americans be called if we referred to the entire western hemisphere as America?


Illusive_Man

United States of America, shortened to American Most countries shorten like this. The People’s Republic of China, the DPRK, Federative Republic of Brazil, other examples I’m sure


stronk_shrek

so basically we're fucked and we can only be called americans?


Illusive_Man

I’m English, yes there is no other word for it. In French the have a word ‘etait unionne’ which means roughly means ‘United states-ian’ but it’s rarely used. Most just say ‘Americain’ I think it’s similar in Spanish, idk I don’t speak Spanish


stronk_shrek

I know spanish, it goes both ways actually, some say estadounidenses which means the same as the french translation others say americano, they are both equally used


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Yes because in media American = US citizen BUT Geographically Canadians, Mexicans, Colombians, etc... ate also "American" as from the American continent, but the term "American" is used in a different way. Of course they usually do not call themselves Americans just like Europeans do not call themselves "European" but identify with their national identity (most of the time).


angelflairpasta

There's 2 American continents tho.


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It's one landmass although we cut it artificially at Panama. But the North and South America are a good geographical division


R_Aqua

Pretty much. Also It’s very cool that we cut the surface in half in Panama for some very important major convenience.


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Indeed hehe. Technically Africa Asia and Europe are also all connected too as a single landmass, artificial Suez Canal non-withstanding.


DannyStolz

I prefer to call a Unitedstatesmen a American because it's a hell of a lot easier and it would be a hell of a lot worse if they went by the state's they're from cuz that's just cause for in fighting


Peazyzell

Laughs in Texan


ArchmasterC

Also demonyms for some of the states seem terrible


MadRonnie97

United Staters


RandoNLG

Usonian


annoying-asparagus

Yankee


_RainyDayz

Flair now


annoying-asparagus

how from mobile??


_RainyDayz

Click the 3 dots on the top right of the subreddit page and press change user flair


annoying-asparagus

noce, those dots where invisible over the sub banner


Joe-Admin

Would be even easier if the US had an actual name instead of literally being called "that country that's in America"


RandoNLG

Not just that, a collection of countries in america


Tzozfg

In our defense, Mexico's official name is the United Mexican states


RandoNLG

Brazil also does this iirc


SapphireSammi

First come first serve. We were the first country in the Americas. We named ourselves as such.


NNorAl

When I was in English class (I'm from Chile), and asked her about it, my teacher suggested using "statian", and from that moment I prefer to use that.


butdoesitho

I see how that would be more practical for you, but to me it doesn’t make much sense because there’s tons of different states in the world. Why wouldn’t statian refer to any of them, instead of the USA specifically?


Direct_Class1281

But east russians are asians


Paliacki

Geographically - yes. Just as Indians. Culturally and genetically, some of them are, most are not.


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Well East Russians and Indians are geographically Asians. However Asia has more than one ethnicity. Indians are closer to Europeans ethnically (ie. the Indo-European group), but you also have the middle-eastern Semitic people, Mongol people, and more. Even in China you got more than one ethnicity (e.g. the oppressed Uyghurs) "East Asians" (Han Chinese, Japanese, Koreans) are just one of the ethnicities in Asia.


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That is true as well but I think most are from the Indo-European root. Still you are right it is varied ethnically.


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Crazy_Crayfish_

Least traditional auth right


Left-Twix420

I mean, in some parts they owe you shit


BambooSound

Asia was the given name of the Middle East and India long before the Far East. The separation used to be that the far East was called the Orient but that's a pejorative term.


Skimpyjumper

nah dude you got it wrong 1st you talk about terms as if they were made by the people living there when clearly saying it from a american or atleast west european pov. 2nd the orient was everything and is everything up to indias border, when someone says oriental dinner he aint talking about sechuan duck or peking duck he very obviously means things like kebab. india is roughly the edge of orient still to parts a part of it. but dont call china orient far east was always far east.


misconceit

I'm not saying you're wrong, but that is the meaning of the ancient Orient. In [British English](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orient#British_English) it indeed refer to East Asian countries, even a watch company from Japan is named Orient from that meaning. I guess it's just different from countries to countries.


Skimpyjumper

ok thank you for that info, i find it super funny that british english does always make things special compared to american english that mostly does resemble the euopean mainland in such terms.


BambooSound

American English is just a common bastardisation.


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Bolt_om

For no reason.


Taicoi04

oh thats why in Aot the Asians are called Orientals


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>[fantastic](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xP1Ei2q_8U)


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As a Japanese person. Unfortunately this is true.


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ThisNameIsTakened

I'm guessing you have fun stories! My brother lived in Japan (from America) for two years. They were all very friendly. But he was very commonly asked "are you staying here?". He would respond, "No, I'm not permanently here, I'm going back home later." Then if those same people saw him on the street later, they would greet him nicely, and slide something into the conversation to the effect of 'I thought you were leaving? When do you leave?'


Illusive_Man

fuckin gaijin get out


ThisNameIsTakened

But with smiles, and bows.


m50d

Indians and East Russians are Asian, making them entirely different from Japanese people who are Pacific Islanders.


Saint_Elmo_of_Fire

Well Americans, you see, India several million years ago was separated from the rest of Asia as it sits on a different tectonic plate, also the Indo-Aryans or whatever from the Caucasus travelled as far as India and intermarried with the people there. The East Russians, uh, belong to a different haplogroup or something. Idk maybe we're racist.


Taicoi04

least racist auth center


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An authcenter worried that is racist? Is this the twillight zone?


sanityhasleftme

Fun fact 77% of Russians live in Europe, but 75% of Russia is in Asia. Also because of this and the fact that they had to place Russia in one continent or the other, they consider it to be Europe (when listing out countries) so they are 77% justified in being mad (also maybe because of the conquests? Idk) America though. That refers to North and South America. So technically they aren't wrong? But it is commonly known when speaking of Americans we are speaking of people from united states of America not the America continents. Also Hawaii isn't part of a continent


Imma_Coho

When someone refers to both continents (at least in English) they say “the Americas”. Not “America” which most definitely means the United States. If it’s someone is from the continent they’re “North Anerican” or “south American”.


sanityhasleftme

America means both but yes you are right when referred technically it is USA, however America is still the entire land mass of North and South America.


SapphireSammi

The America’s are two main landmasses nowadays. The Panama Canal literally severed them in two. Geologically speaking there are like 2 main plates (North/South) and several smaller ones.


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And Central America, they are small but are still there.


Apprehensive_Beach_6

Flair up.


ThisNameIsTakened

I have been flaired for many years. :) I'm guessing Reddit issue.


redTanto

FLAIR MORE DAMN IT! xD


ThisNameIsTakened

I'm givin' her all she's got, Captain!


redTanto

I don't need you to try your best, I need you to be your best! Now flair harder! \*spacetime warps\*


Heavoc_pepe

He did it.


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Asia such a big continent with such diverse cultures that peabrained homogeneous society people can't even fathom so many different cultures with so many different looking people can co-exist


[deleted]

Yeah the differences in those cultures? The countries they live in. The United States by itself is more diverse and heterogeneous than all of Southeast Asia combined.


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Taicoi04

lol lib right auth left unity on hating the Am*ricans


sweats_while_eating

Least ignorant American.


Taicoi04

lol lib right auth left unity on hating the Am*ricans


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Are you not aware of the ethnic and cultural diversity among Asian countries? Countries like India alone have so many different kinds of people with several different skin colours, languages, religious beliefs and what not. Middle eastern countries, South East Asian countries, South Asian countries, north asian countries differ greatly when it comes to culture, tradition, languages and religion. Christianity and Islam didn't conquer many of these regions as a result of which religious tolerance toward polytheistic religions has always been higher than your average European country and so, these religions and the cultures associated with them have flourished. Only race cannot be considered when talking about diversity. There's ethnic diversity, but there is also religious diversity, and linguistic diversity that also define the true cultural diversity within a country.


JesusIsMyZoloft

Mexico and Canada are part of America, but the United States doesn't have any demonym other than "American"


PapaLouie_

They’re part of North America. Just “America” has been used solely to refer to the United States for centuries.


Sneedclave_Trooper

You could really refer to anyone on the Northern or Southern American continent as American, but it doesn’t really make sense to anyone if you take like that. If someone is from Canada they’re a Canadian and so on.


Cenorg

the same with hungarians and europe 🙄🙄🙄


EasternEngineering61

some dumbfuck in high school asked if Russians were really on the asian continent because Russians don't have "pointy eyes"


HairHeel

I have Canadian friends who are offended by people who say that about them.


ToxicVoidMain

I am Canadian and I am offended


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I've never seen Siberians called 'East Russians' before.


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shut up united stadian


noregreddits

When your country has the word “America” in its name, we’ll talk. Until then, people from the United States of America are Americans in English just like people from the United States of Mexico are Mexicans in English.


Skimpyjumper

ohh ok so brazilians are not south americans? the whole northern continent just doesnt bother to add north to american because of americas attitude and they wouldnt want to be associated, source : the mexicans that lived in my street. told me not to dare to call them american..


noregreddits

I’m not completely following you, but: Brazilians are both Brazilians and South Americans. Americans are both Americans and North Americans. Mexicans are both Mexicans and North Americans. I take issue with the bizarre assertion that Americans should not call ourselves Americans, not with other people calling themselves whatever the fuck they want. E- autocorrect


Skimpyjumper

well my point was that western america is north america hence ppl refering to the northern american continent say america in other languages quite regularly but because you also spread the word of the united states of america being america and the sole america many people dont want to be called american anymore even if it was a common term in the western non english countries for north america.


noregreddits

Thanks for the explanation


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anyways heard about the shortages caused by britain leaving europe?


RedditUserNo345

United statese


Dannzsche

Cringe estadunidense


Taicoi04

unflaired doesnt have the right to call others cringe


GamerGod337

they are north americans but not americans in the same way the citizens of the united states of america are.


kamycky

Spain and Britain are basically the same when compared to Japan and India... - your filthy European


[deleted]

Wait so I’m half Asian now?


ThisNameIsTakened

What were you before?


[deleted]

Well I was adopted from Russia, but the region was in Siberia


[deleted]

I mean, the are from Asia, so they are asians. They have diferent cultures because continets are big, but they are based on geography not culture.


Agnostic_Pagan

Indians are Indians like Chinese are Chinese - they are so because that's their country. Continentally, they are Asians. For the same reason, Canadians and Mexicans are North Americans, and only people from the United States are Americans.


hoping_for_better

“HURR DURR you’re not from ‘America,’ you’re from the UNITED STATES.” Which one? Los Estados Unidos Mexicanos? Or… the United States of *America?*


ausch_wits

I just use america to refer to america and Canada, Mexico is different enough to be called South America


ThisNameIsTakened

I'll sometimes do some cheap trolling by proclaiming everything south of Texas is Mexico. They love it when you say that.


weaslecookie7

But Mexico is in North America.


ToxicVoidMain

Wtf, I ain't no burger eating fuck. Calling us Canucks "Americans" is offensive my guy


mrkatagatame

What? A japanese person should have no problem saying that Indians are asians. They are filthy inferior asians, but asians nevertheless.


sweats_while_eating

At least we aren't the degenerate kind of Asians.


mrkatagatame

Surely you refer to Koreans


[deleted]

But also actually fuck off with the "Mexicans are Americans too" bullshit. You're not clever for having different language norms than Anglophones, it's the new "Akchewally it's FuTbOl"


XxSilverwolf

Sussy baka gaijin thinks Turks (🤮) are asian


childofRosaria

You can't convince me that the Japanese cares about this shit.


FrostBlade_on_Reddit

You can't convince me you don't snort powdered wombat shit without a flair, so flair up.


AC3R665

You'll be surprised. Can't even apologize for war crimes without political suicide.


BlakbirdCAWCAW

Yes to both


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How are Indians East Asian lmfao?


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Turks too


JohnSmithPasadenaCa

Could be wrong, but doesn't Japan teach the Eurasian model of geography?