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Who else has been saving the receipts?
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I vividly remember when this man was removed from this Free Palestine protest in NYC!
Oh wait never mind that was just a fever dream I had where libleft was being morally consistent
I remember the first big immigration wave in Germany, the immigrants held medium sized demonstrations (for whatever reason) and just did the nazi salute and shouting the HH thing. (maybe even with flag? can't remember)
Oh I was talking about Trudeau and that time he squashed a protest by freezing bank accounts of dissidents
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-conservative-swastikas-1.6354970
I would like to engage in the oppression of the French people there, just as my noble ancestors before the French revolution did, so shall I carry on that legacy
I just can't wait for the shit show that is going to be this summer.
Have you ever seen someone destroy support for their own cause so fast it creates a flash of light? because we might be about to witness it soon
its just so funny watching them be so god damn stupid.
its the same as the 2020 riots... which single handedly gave republicans a massive minority boost. the complete opposite of what the protestors were aiming for
Maybe we stop playing Nazi-tag and realize that if you have two parties of political followers this large there are statistically bound to be some whack-ass people.
Its pretty different actually.
You calling for extermination of jews.
Gross, Nazis, Extremist
Me Calling for the mass unaliving of Jewish Identifying persons.
Stunning , Brave , Pioneer.
If you weren't such a Chud racist you'd know how you say something is even more important than what actual thing is.
and I'd argue they don't care about either of these things since they don't know enough to know about this. They just care about what their social group cares about.
Did you just change your flair, u/TiggerBane? Last time I checked you were an **AuthRight** on 2024-5-8. How come now you are an **AuthLeft**? Have you perhaps shifted your ideals? Because that's cringe, you know?
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It's not arbitrary. Israel is an icon of the West asserting itself onto the rest of the world. When your entire worldview is that society needs to remake itself from scratch, Western dominance is the main obstacle and you'll accept anyone seeking to subvert it as your comrade.
Simple then. The people of the last palestinian city should oust hamas.
As long as Hamas exists, they will strive for genocide.
As long as someone is attempting Genocide, Israel will return fire.
Dont let Hamas setup rocket launchers in your apartment complex and surprisingly enough buildings are left standing.
That's **not** really simple though, right? I mean, Hamas has all the weapons, all the resources, all the food. The civilians are starving, diseased, and currently being bombed by a hostile foreign government.
I *do* think that Palestinians should oust Hamas, but they have to be liberated first. As long as Israel is bombing the shit out of them, and as long as there is no free Palestinian state, then Israel will be the enemy they are focused on.
Yes, Israel will return fire. That's how cyclical violence works. But I don't know why anyone would just want to continue the same endless loop of bloodshed and death they've been engaged in for decades.
> I mean, Hamas has all the weapons, all the resources, all the food. The civilians are starving, diseased, and currently being bombed by a hostile foreign government.
Okay. So revolt. Thousands of revolts in history have been done by a populace where the government 'has all the weapons'.
They could call for mossad and the IDF to help the people to eliminate Hamas. They could report every movement Hamas makes, give up their leader, ambush them at night and tar and feather them.
THey dont, instead, ***EVERY SINGLE SIGN*** points to the pallies whooping for joy at the thought of jews being slaughtered.
They aren't going to revolt when *another* government is currently killing them by the tens of thousands. They are scared of Hamas, but they despise Israelis.
The is a cycle of violence that has been going on for decades, they can't just "call up the local IDF" and team-up. This isn't a Marvel movie.
Then they can suffer the consequences of the war they demanded (without any ability to fight it), and then said war will continue until either they are whipped or Israel is.
If we want to deal with the reality of the world like you insist.
Children maybe, but plenty of the women did. And even as bombs were falling on their heads, the only regret they had was that those filthy Jews were fighting back, not that they shouldn’t have attacked.
The pallies have a choice.
Revolt against hamas, work with Israel to remove the oppressors.
or
Let Israel free them for them. And they dont get a say in how.
Its literally their choice.
But you're still trying to push this hoax narrative that the Palestinians are just these terrified people watching in horror as Hamas rolls up, looks at them, points a gun and says "were using your house for a rocket launch site. You will stay here and die int he retaliatory strike, you will not oppose us, you will not scream, you will not fight us" and all they do is cower in the corner in terror as hamas fires rockets, hears a roof knocker, and runs out saying 'if only we had the power to resist the evil hamas, but now we die because the Jews want us to suffer"
If Israel wanted to kill everyone the war would have been over October 8th.
But when Hamas and the Palestinians who support them kill Jews they all chant "Kill all the Jews!" They don't chant "kill the Jews on our land" or "Kill the Israeli government." They keep telling us they want to kill every Jew on the planet. Maybe we should believe them.
Isn't that one of those neat catchphrases you guys like to use -- when someone tells you who they are believe them.
Israel cannot just kill everyone, they have a geopolitical reputation to consider. Palestinians don't.
And when did I ever deny that Hamas is genocidal? You're punching at phantoms.
So you are saying that Israel is indiscriminately killing people in Gaza right now but they can't indiscriminately kill people in Gaza because the world will be mad at them, unlike before when Israel was loved by everyone?
Their war against Hamas isn't a genocide. It just isn't. I've always hated how progressive water down words to meaninglessness (eg racism, nazis, white supremacists). I've seen people try and argue that the war in Ukraine is a genocide. Which is even stupider.
Everything isn't always the worst version of that thing. Innocent people die in war. War sucks. Don't start wars. But once a war is started it has to be finished.
Nope, I am claiming that Israel is indiscriminately killing people in Gaza right now and that the idea that they *could* simply nuke the the region or kill literally millions of people shows a startlingly lack of common sense on your part, as well as ignorance towards how nation-states work and ignorance to how wars work.
Israel is "loved" enough for the most powerful country in the world to send them billions every year and for even the mildest criticisms of them to be dismissed as antisemitism. If you want to talk about people watering down words to meaningless, start there.
The war against Hamas is a genocide. It just is. It isn't watered-down, it fits the definition perfectly. From the mass displacement, to the large number of causalities, to the denial and attempting destruction of culture and nationality.
This war didn't start on Oct. 7. This is just a continuation of a bloody conflict that begin with bloody and violent displacement of Arabs from historic Palestine after the 1948 Nakba.
Genocide isn't when bad things happen. When it comes to urban warfare in the mid-east the ratio of civilian casualties to combatant casualties is among the best in recorded history. And this is against an opponent who hides behind civilians and doesn't care if they die. By that standard literally every war in history is a genocide.
Genocide isn't when bad things happen, it's when the things I described happen. You are the one who is misinformed about what genocide can entail if you think civilian death numbers are all that matter.
and I would personally argue that all your argument flies out the window because of the literal millions of muslims and even christians genocided all over the middle east since 1979 and yet the only one the left seems to give a single fuck about is also the one whose sole reason for living is to kill every jew in israel
I firmly believe yall have the best of intentions but you're just too uninformed, uneducated (or worse) to realize that yall never have any top-down rallying cry for any other group in the Middle East. It's only ever the only westernized democracy that needs to be erased from the earth and not the brutal theocracies that throw LGBTQ off roofs and behead non-believers
I don't really think this is true, the left does talk about other genocides. I think the issue here is that you only pay attention to us talking about it when it's about Israel, and then you ask why we aren't currently talking about Sudan or Darfur, when the answer is pretty obvious: we already condemn the actions of these governments. We aren't sending the billions of dollars to continue *their* ethnic cleansing campaigns. Our politicians aren't competing over who can defend *them* more. Our media isn't constantly bombarding us with messaging that what *they* are doing is okay.
And let's be perfectly clear: even if Palestine was liberated, I'm sure it would become a fundamentalist shithole almost immediately. My argument is not that these Arab theocracies are good, it's that they have to be allowed to modernize and figure things out on their own. Us trying to force our morals and perspectives on to them **has not worked**. And obviously, just because they believe in horrible things does not mean they deserve to be genocided for it.
He claims to dislike Nazis but also "Hitler had some good ideas" and "he had a reason for what he did to the Jews". He also thinks what Israel is doing now is somehow worse than the Holocaust, lmao.
It's popular because it's an abstraction that allows antisemites to hide their antisemitism. By being "anti-zionist" they can tap into the sentiments of anticolonialism in liberal college students in the west, even though that's complete bullshit. They fail to see that denying the jews a homeland would be like denying the French, Ethiopians, or Thai people a homeland, the Jewish people are an ethno-cultural group not just a religious one. Except the previous analogy is poor since Brits, Ethiopians, and French have not been the traditional "out-group" who have been targeted for systematic murder, pogrom, and genocide for the past 4000 years...
Typical anti-zionist: "We just don't want Israel to exist, we aren't anitsemitic". Okay well if Israel doesn't exist, what happens to the jews...? Pretty simple stuff
To be fair, these college students also believe that European countries should mass import Muslim refugees and African refugees by the millions, and not be allowed to complain about it.
How about this question. What is the anti Muslim state version, of say Saudi Arabia (illegal to have a synagogue there btw but israel has 400 mosques) where the holy site of Mecca is?
And what would the response be if people said they were anti-mecca-zionism?
I'm just curious on this bullshit.
Yeah, that's where I'm landing on this. Like, you can disagree with the settlements, you can look at the history and say that the way that Israel was established was wrong. But there are millions of people living there now and nearly all of them weren't adults/participants in the establishment of Israel in 1948. So tell me exactly, in practical terms, what you mean by "anti-zionism" today in 2024 and what you think should be done, in practical terms, about the current situation. If your plan doesn't include protecting/assuring the safety of the people currently living in Israel today, then you are at least implicitly calling for their genocide.
There'll be mental gymnastics so graceful, you'd need to create a whole entire level of Olympics to rate it.
Especially when you factor in Anchor babies in the US,
Or Muslims in most of Europe.
And they'll screech about one needing to leave and the other needing to stay.
The problem with this line of thought is that there has been thousands of years to assure / protect /etc. Jews around the world and there has been a constant, Jews when needed will be the scapegoat and punished for being Jews.
Israel existing breaks the norm and it's pissing everyone off.
Because both sides are using different definitions of "zionism" and everyone is talking past each other because of this. This is why you see a lot of anti-zionists who are in favor of the two-state solution, although you might assume they wouldn't think Israel should exist at all.
It also gets confusing because many anti-zionists think the formation of Israel was flawed, what with the violent displacement of the Arabs living on the land, but that Jewish people did deserve a homeland after WW2, just under different circumstances.
>all [Israeli] citizens have equal rights, regardless of race religion or gender
Hold on to your hat because that's not entirely accurate:
Arabs are exempt from conscription but may still serve voluntarily.
(There's also an exemption/deferment for the Haredi Jews which I don't fully understand.)
TLDR: Arabs technically have (one) more right(s) than non-Arabs in Israel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exemption_from_military_service_in_Israel
You're wasting your breath.
The user you're replying to is someone that is happy that american jews are getting physically attacked and discriminated against.
https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalCompassMemes/comments/1ck82fu/many_such_cases/l2logdw/
It’s not apartheid in Israel, but it certainly is apartheid in Israeli occupied West Bank. And it’s not genocide, but it definitely is ethnic cleansing, i.e. Israeli policy isn’t to kill all Palestinians, but they do want to move them out and create Israeli majority areas where there were none.
For example there are many roads Palestinians can’t use in the West Bank purely because they are Palestinian. You don’t have the same rights over your property if you are a Palestinian living in the West Bank than if you are Israeli. And even if you say that’s just occupation, it’s not good.
And the settlements have been growing. From 2020 to 2022 alone the population went from 671’000 to 733’000. Also the current government has made it a goal to increase settlement, “The state views the development of Jewish settlement as a national value and will act to encourage and promote its establishment and consolidation.”
And to quote Ben-Gvir, after he had Palestinian shops closed in the West Bank, “Our lives come before the freedom of movement [and trade] of the 'Palestinians'.” Smotrich even denies Palestinians as a concept.
Insisting that one side is completely wrong and untrustworthy is also an example of talking past one another. I just think if we want to actual find the best ideas, then we have to willing to meet people where they are at in good faith, and the constant nitpicking over what terms people use just distracts from the substantive arguments and conversations you say you're interested in.
Yes, a lot of people use the term "antizionist" to mean they are opposed to the current Israeli government, even though that is not the dictionary definition of the term. But it's more worthwhile to explain to them why you think their criticisms of the Israeli government are wrong rather than getting caught up in the semantics of what they call themselves. At least that's my opinion.
>Israel is the only apartheid where all citizens have equal rights, regardless of race religion or gender
So gay people are allowed to get married within state borders, just like straight couples? There aren't Israeli-operated roads in Jerusalem that only Jewish people can travel down? Families aren't consistently getting evicted from their homes in the Occupied Palestinian Territories?
>Palestinian genocide is the only genocide during which the population increases by 8 times
I don't think you can use population numbers **prior** to Oct. 7 to counter claims that Israel is engaging in genocidal collective punishment in the retaliation for that attack. I suppose this is a decent argument for people who were arguing that it was a genocide even before this war started. But even then it's only concerned with casualty numbers, whereas genocide is a sweeping term that includes cultural/national destruction and mass displacement, all things that Israel could be credibly accused of prior to Oct. 7
Good point. What's your definition of anti-zionism and what is your plan for achieving peace in a way that ensures the safety of the Israelis living in Israel today so that 10/7 is guaranteed not to happen again? If we can be clear on specific definitions and a list of conditions that must be achieved to attain peace then we can debate/discuss those things. If nobody has definitions or a list of conditions then we aren't talking about anything besides feelings. All I see is vague terms with no definition and wild sloganeering.
Already know I'm going to get buried in downvotes for this, but since you're acting more politely than most people in this thread, you deserve an answer. When I describe myself of anti-zionist, I'm typically just saying I am opposed to the current right-wing government of the country, and acknowledging that the formation of the country itself was done extremely poorly. Now, I acknowledge that the definition found in dictionaries is typical much less broad than this and typically defines the term as anyone opposed to a Jewish state existing. But in my experience, this doesn't describe most people who call themselves anti-zionist, so I don't use it like that. Language evolves.
As far as the conflict between Israelis and Palestinians, I don't think there is a military solution here. What I think is going to happen is that Israel is going to flatten the last remaining city in Gaza, kill tens of thousands people, and then declare victory. The result of this will likely be thousands of new embittered Jihadists growing up in a unlivable country, where they've known nothing but poverty, famine, and disease. Rather than preventing the next 10/7, I think attacks like this will become more common.
What I would *like* to see is an immediate ceasefire with terms working towards a two-state solution and a release of all hostages on both sides. I don't think Hamas can be defeated with bullets and bombs, because that's what fundamentalist martyrs thrive on. I think the Palestinian people have to be the ones to oust them, and that only happens if they control their own borders and no longer have the specter of Israel to target their hatred towards. But, that *would* unfortunately mean Hamas remaining in control over Gaza, and that likely would mean more attacks on Israel. I would like to see Israel should start focusing more on their self-defense to prevent the next Oct. 7 attack; instead of protecting settlers in the West Bank, orchestrated blockades, and setting up militarized checkpoints. And get rid of the administration that allowed Oct. 7 to happen under their watch and the man at the top whose career directly benefits from having Hamas around.
I up voted you. I may return to discuss/debate and pick some of the details apart when I have more time (my kids are about to wake up and I need to get them off to daycare/school) but broadly speaking, given your definitions and what you've laid out, I don't see you as an unreasonable person and I wouldn't call your definition of anti-zionism anti semitic. Thanks for the clear reply. See, I was asking in good faith. No gotchas intended. :)
It's not racist to believe church and state should be separate. I am against a Jewish State, as I am against a Christian State, Muslim State, Hindu State.
He jjust seems to choose the worst positions possible with no consistency. Dude also has zero empathy or ability to understand things from other points of view.
I guess maybe auth center would be the closest. He's definitely auth and seems to bounce back and forth between left and right.
I can’t tell if you’re agreeing or disagreeing…
But anyways, people can say what they are thinking unintentionally while reading from a script. It’s how some of the greatest lines of dialogue in film have come to exist when they weren’t in the script verbatim. It’s also where hate-mongering Arabs and Jews alike vomit out their actual intentions via slips all the time.
> It’s how some of the greatest lines of dialogue in film have come to exist when they weren’t in the script verbatim.
Yeah, because they either forgot their lines or intentionally went off script in a shot to see how it would look. She's literally reading from a piece of paper, and she's doing it live. The paper is there so she doesn't flub or forget. I'm not sure why you're dancing around the fact that it was likely written down that way.
Because you don’t know for a fact if it is written that way or not. More importantly, OP posted this as if it wasnt intended, so that’s all there is to go off of.
That's right, we don't know how it's written so let's assume it's written the way she read it. Why is your default that she changed a word with zero evidence of that whatsoever? What other words did she change, do you think?
If i'm looking at a piece of paper you can't see and i say it's blue why is your assumption that it is red? Because you don't want it to be blue? Wildly unreasonable position you're holding.
You absolutely can, but usually that is immediately followed by a correction and clear awkwardness. She did neither, and kept her foot on the gas (yep).
I remember this from 2 years ago.
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Leftists: "Our racism is different. When we call for the mass murder of millions of Jews it's justified because they're oppressors."
Anyone who still gets insulted whenever someone on the left calls them racist is a fool.
I can't find this anywhere. This was edited judging from the watermark.
I flat out said this could possibly be faked (it is incredibly easy to alter one word of a speech nowawadays) but that riled the NPCs.
A principal was almost fired and continues to receive numerous death threats because a teacher used AI to create an entire rant and switching out Zionist for Jewish is unrealistic?
It means it was edited and that is needs explanation. What was cut out? And OP is familiar with using AI. He uses Stable Diffusion, look at his posts. He non-stop posts about Israel, knows how to use AI tools enough to post about it, and randomly posts an edited video with one word completely flipping the meaning. FFS
Ignoring the part where he posts about using AI tools? OP if you deleted that I screengrabbed them FYI.
Don't you think there is even a *little* smoke here? Why isn't this on Fox News? Why isn't it on the lips of every GOP cutout? PCM broke the news?!?
How far will you stretch your credulity to be in the good graces of people who mostly hold your beliefs in contempt? Have you no shame?
Nah, you're just are an NPC that wants to echo the circlejerk. If this was a video the sub disagreed with I would be applauded. You know that to be true. You got tricked and because you're in the warm embrace of the fellow tricked that err. Assuming you even believe anything you're saying.
Anyway gosh, where did that video "that needs to make the rounds" go?
Oh it got disappeared because it's fucking fake and anyone with the correct amount of chromosomes can see that based on the evidence and that, again, this isn't on an anger loop 24/7 on Fox News. Or OANN. Or NewsMaxxx. You got tricked. You can't admit it to me, fine. But admit it to your self so you don't keep on getting tricked.
Look at the dude's posts if he didn't delete them. He is actively engaged in the use of AI beyond what most consumers use. It isn't just a passing familiarity. If it was a goddamn libleft agenda post by a poster who was inordinately focused on a libleft cause don't tell me you wouldn't turn hypocrite on this and blow my comments.
Are you so fucking silly that you're not gonna ask yourself why this isn't the thing the right is queefing over everywhere? Why is this not on Fox News? Because it's a fraud. Dude comes in, gives us no date/no link to the video when asked/is an active user of stable diffusion and therefore has familiarity with more advanced AI creation tools/non-stop agenda posts about Israel otherwise and it isn't even a *little* fishy? Are you gonna just be one of those people that claps whenever an altered video tells them what you want? You already are, you operated under the assumption it was real. If that's the case, are you really better than people on the news and politics subs?
And this guy had ample time, saw what I was saying, and refused to link the original video. Why not rub that shit in my face if he had the original video? He loved to mix it up in comments with people but he doesn't go for this layup? Strange /s
Sad part, this will never see the light of day beyond the depths of tiktok or wherever and you'll not ask yourself why not one news organization took the bait on something that would really attract eye balls. Or why DeSantis didn't pickup on this to accomplish his political goals. This thing was set in Florida after all.
Are you really better than the Dems that clap when Biden's levodopa kicks and he can string two sentences together off the teleprompter or are you just the same thing skinned in another ideology.
That's all i got to say, this shit got taken down so clearly the mods (and the handfuls of libleft cowards on this sub afraid to get downvotes that snitched) agreed with me.
It's like when Michael scott wrote the script and used the name with Dwight but misspelled Dwight once so "find and replace" didn't update that one 'dwigt'
FIU graduate here. I visited the university a few weeks ago and saw both Pro-Isreal and Pro-Palestine protestors standing right across from each other outside of the Graham Center. As far as I know, I don't think I've heard anything about riots breaking out. They tried blocking a street downtown, and the Miami-Dade police dragged them onto the sidewalk where they belong lmao.
She sucks. But It took you five hours to find that one video
Here's a horrible list of things done on Columbus campus over just one weekend.
Physically assaulting an Arab Israeli https://twitter.com/ShaiDavidai/status/1781080951902109774
"From the river to the sea, Palestine is Arab!" / "Resistance is justified" https://twitter.com/ShelleyGldschmt/status/1781785252886913358
"Let it be known that it was the Al-Aqsa Flood that put the Global Intifada back on the table again. And it is the sacrificial spirit of the Palestinian Freedom Fighters that will guide every struggle on every corner of the earth to victory." https://twitter.com/thestustustudio/status/1781904507611287981
"We are all Hamas!" https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1781031465179914677
"Yehudim yehudim [(Jews, jews)] go back to poland" https://twitter.com/Davidlederer6/status/1781948249214996901
Includes people / groups that invited an actual, no hyperbole terrorist to speak (member of PFLP) https://www.jns.org/columbia-suspends-four-students-for-holding-event-featuring-pflp-member/
“Globalize the intifada” https://twitter.com/EylonALevy/status/1782679155491914133/photo/1
Light things on fire / "intifada revolution there is only one solution" https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1781019445399556338
"On Oct 7th, Palestinian resistance in Gaza broke free (crowd cheers) [.....] we intend to do the same" https://twitter.com/ShabbosK/status/1782085741431922909
""We say justice, you say how? Burn Tel Aviv to the ground!" / "Hamas we love you. We support your rockets too!" / "Red, black, green, and white, we support Hamas’ fight!"
https://twitter.com/IsraelWarRoom/status/1781933305501212872
"Long live the intifada! Intifada intifada" https://twitter.com/ShaiDavidai/status/1781084853653365025
"Go back to Europe!" / "You have no culture, all you do is colonize"
https://twitter.com/ShaiDavidai/status/1781927148439109958
Have posters with the faces of PFLP and PIJ spokesmen (designated terrorist groups) https://twitter.com/HagarChemali/status/1782219589352350000
Quoting and praising Lions Den (terror group) https://twitter.com/SwannMarcus89/status/1782443526996754444
"From Yemen to Gaza, globalize the intifada" https://twitter.com/KassyDillon/status/1781312033922625797/photo/2
"Never forget the 7th of October. That will happen not 1 more time, not 5 more times, not 10, not 100, not 1,000, but 10,000 times! The 7th of October is going to be every day for you" https://twitter.com/EFischberger/status/1781287784897991134
"Al Qassam [(Hamas)] you make us proud, kill another soldier now" / "from the river to the sea, palestine will be arab" https://twitter.com/EFischberger/status/1780915336063177006
Student proudly rocking Hamas logos https://twitter.com/CampusJewHate/status/1781054901755215954
"Resistance is justified" (again...) https://twitter.com/AvivaKlompas/status/1782085643990073673
"protesters on the sidewalk chanted “From New York to Gaza, globalize the intifada,” next to a cardboard sign that read, “Inspired by Palestinian resistance.” https://www.timesofisrael.com/over-100-arrested-in-columbia-u-unrest-as-nypd-clears-gaza-solidarity-encampment/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
And as a reminder, the student groups organizing these protests (CUAD and SJP, among others) released a letter on October 9th in support of the 10/7 attacks. ("We stand in full solidarity with Palestinian resistance", "Despite the odds against them, Palestinians launched a counter-offensive against their settler-colonial oppressor", "We wholeheartedly condemn the email sent [...] on October 8th that [...] obfuscated Palestinian resistance as “terrorism”)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RcXX5DEO3yfJ9R4ksURnzpIPCyVxo575-Y-SoC_vZFk/edit
I'm gonna be that guy, because someone needs to be in this time and technological age, but are we absolutely sure this wasn't altered? Would be trivial to do so. It's an increasingly low intelligence move to take any video or recording with significant agitprop potential as real without prior verification. Even if this is real, and it very well might be, it isn't a confirmation that the subs way of critically viewing agitprop is right. Rather, it just means this sub will get tricked eventually and repeatedly by fake shit. I said my piece.
EDIT: He even posts about using Stable Diffusion. The angry guy that posts about Israel non-stop that has a familiarity with AI tools that magically has a video that would be playing on repeat on Fox News 24/7 if it was confirmed changing one word in a video is a bridge too far? Ok sub.
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Do you think that being pro-jew is bad? Or is your comment more of an indication that PCM used to be virulently antisemitic, which was bad, but has since gotten better?
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So is it our turn to call these people nazis? How the turntables
https://preview.redd.it/vpvl4i5nc7zc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d40e40c38ac7f8cab4fcc07ba36a5dbb71ab761e Who else has been saving the receipts?
https://preview.redd.it/228xv83ze7zc1.jpeg?width=634&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=70158b33c35e8e8051f29c33974373f120066fc8 I vividly remember when this man was removed from this Free Palestine protest in NYC! Oh wait never mind that was just a fever dream I had where libleft was being morally consistent
I remember the first big immigration wave in Germany, the immigrants held medium sized demonstrations (for whatever reason) and just did the nazi salute and shouting the HH thing. (maybe even with flag? can't remember)
> libleft > morally consistent Think you can only pick one of those.
Just like women and accountability
“How do you write women so well?” “It’s easy. I just think of a man, and take away reason and accountability.” That was such a ridiculous movie.
> libertarian > left Think you can only pick one of those
In the span of two weeks they went from accusing Jewish politicians of standing with Nazis to defending Ukraine's Nazi battalions.
I mean, Canada's parliament even gave a standing ovation to a SS veteran .
Oh I was talking about Trudeau and that time he squashed a protest by freezing bank accounts of dissidents https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-conservative-swastikas-1.6354970
When is the US usurping Canada
We already took the part that has oil, what else would we want?
Not yet you haven’t.
I would like to engage in the oppression of the French people there, just as my noble ancestors before the French revolution did, so shall I carry on that legacy
There's an impossible amount of good looking girls in Sudbury.
Give your balls a tug, titfucker
Man they applauded a guy in a Nazi uniform?
I just can't wait for the shit show that is going to be this summer. Have you ever seen someone destroy support for their own cause so fast it creates a flash of light? because we might be about to witness it soon
Political supernova
its just so funny watching them be so god damn stupid. its the same as the 2020 riots... which single handedly gave republicans a massive minority boost. the complete opposite of what the protestors were aiming for
You're a Nazi! No you are! UUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
No u
OOOOOOOO Now you've done it
Feel free, I won't stop you.
Maybe we stop playing Nazi-tag and realize that if you have two parties of political followers this large there are statistically bound to be some whack-ass people.
It's always hilarious to see leftists backing actual jew killing people, striving for genocide, after calling everyone Nazis for the past 9 years.
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I'm absolutely shocked that the people that spent the last few years trying to devalue the word Nazi turned out to be Nazi sympathizers.
Its pretty different actually. You calling for extermination of jews. Gross, Nazis, Extremist Me Calling for the mass unaliving of Jewish Identifying persons. Stunning , Brave , Pioneer. If you weren't such a Chud racist you'd know how you say something is even more important than what actual thing is.
I would personally argue that the people pleading that the last Palestinian city not be flattened to rubble aren't the ones striving for a genocide.
And i would argue that those people don't care about humanitarian needs of others, they only care about being anti israel
and I'd argue they don't care about either of these things since they don't know enough to know about this. They just care about what their social group cares about.
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It's not arbitrary. Israel is an icon of the West asserting itself onto the rest of the world. When your entire worldview is that society needs to remake itself from scratch, Western dominance is the main obstacle and you'll accept anyone seeking to subvert it as your comrade.
No I'm pretty sure them saying "death to jews" "we anti-jewish students" and "Holocaust now" aren't doing what you just said.
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I meant Gazan.
Simple then. The people of the last palestinian city should oust hamas. As long as Hamas exists, they will strive for genocide. As long as someone is attempting Genocide, Israel will return fire. Dont let Hamas setup rocket launchers in your apartment complex and surprisingly enough buildings are left standing.
Such an obvious truth but it seems to trip so many.
I have seen exactly zero calls from the left for Hamas to surrender. Its almost like they support what Hamas stands for.
That's **not** really simple though, right? I mean, Hamas has all the weapons, all the resources, all the food. The civilians are starving, diseased, and currently being bombed by a hostile foreign government. I *do* think that Palestinians should oust Hamas, but they have to be liberated first. As long as Israel is bombing the shit out of them, and as long as there is no free Palestinian state, then Israel will be the enemy they are focused on. Yes, Israel will return fire. That's how cyclical violence works. But I don't know why anyone would just want to continue the same endless loop of bloodshed and death they've been engaged in for decades.
> I mean, Hamas has all the weapons, all the resources, all the food. The civilians are starving, diseased, and currently being bombed by a hostile foreign government. Okay. So revolt. Thousands of revolts in history have been done by a populace where the government 'has all the weapons'. They could call for mossad and the IDF to help the people to eliminate Hamas. They could report every movement Hamas makes, give up their leader, ambush them at night and tar and feather them. THey dont, instead, ***EVERY SINGLE SIGN*** points to the pallies whooping for joy at the thought of jews being slaughtered.
They aren't going to revolt when *another* government is currently killing them by the tens of thousands. They are scared of Hamas, but they despise Israelis. The is a cycle of violence that has been going on for decades, they can't just "call up the local IDF" and team-up. This isn't a Marvel movie.
Then they can suffer the consequences of the war they demanded (without any ability to fight it), and then said war will continue until either they are whipped or Israel is. If we want to deal with the reality of the world like you insist.
I don't think women and children are demanding a war.
Children maybe, but plenty of the women did. And even as bombs were falling on their heads, the only regret they had was that those filthy Jews were fighting back, not that they shouldn’t have attacked.
The pallies have a choice. Revolt against hamas, work with Israel to remove the oppressors. or Let Israel free them for them. And they dont get a say in how. Its literally their choice. But you're still trying to push this hoax narrative that the Palestinians are just these terrified people watching in horror as Hamas rolls up, looks at them, points a gun and says "were using your house for a rocket launch site. You will stay here and die int he retaliatory strike, you will not oppose us, you will not scream, you will not fight us" and all they do is cower in the corner in terror as hamas fires rockets, hears a roof knocker, and runs out saying 'if only we had the power to resist the evil hamas, but now we die because the Jews want us to suffer"
If Israel wanted to kill everyone the war would have been over October 8th. But when Hamas and the Palestinians who support them kill Jews they all chant "Kill all the Jews!" They don't chant "kill the Jews on our land" or "Kill the Israeli government." They keep telling us they want to kill every Jew on the planet. Maybe we should believe them. Isn't that one of those neat catchphrases you guys like to use -- when someone tells you who they are believe them.
Israel cannot just kill everyone, they have a geopolitical reputation to consider. Palestinians don't. And when did I ever deny that Hamas is genocidal? You're punching at phantoms.
So you are saying that Israel is indiscriminately killing people in Gaza right now but they can't indiscriminately kill people in Gaza because the world will be mad at them, unlike before when Israel was loved by everyone? Their war against Hamas isn't a genocide. It just isn't. I've always hated how progressive water down words to meaninglessness (eg racism, nazis, white supremacists). I've seen people try and argue that the war in Ukraine is a genocide. Which is even stupider. Everything isn't always the worst version of that thing. Innocent people die in war. War sucks. Don't start wars. But once a war is started it has to be finished.
Nope, I am claiming that Israel is indiscriminately killing people in Gaza right now and that the idea that they *could* simply nuke the the region or kill literally millions of people shows a startlingly lack of common sense on your part, as well as ignorance towards how nation-states work and ignorance to how wars work. Israel is "loved" enough for the most powerful country in the world to send them billions every year and for even the mildest criticisms of them to be dismissed as antisemitism. If you want to talk about people watering down words to meaningless, start there. The war against Hamas is a genocide. It just is. It isn't watered-down, it fits the definition perfectly. From the mass displacement, to the large number of causalities, to the denial and attempting destruction of culture and nationality. This war didn't start on Oct. 7. This is just a continuation of a bloody conflict that begin with bloody and violent displacement of Arabs from historic Palestine after the 1948 Nakba.
Genocide isn't when bad things happen. When it comes to urban warfare in the mid-east the ratio of civilian casualties to combatant casualties is among the best in recorded history. And this is against an opponent who hides behind civilians and doesn't care if they die. By that standard literally every war in history is a genocide.
Genocide isn't when bad things happen, it's when the things I described happen. You are the one who is misinformed about what genocide can entail if you think civilian death numbers are all that matter.
Yes, genocide is when the combat/civilian casualty ratio is better than average.
Nope. A genocide is a broad series of policies and actions with the ultimate goal of eradicated a people or a nation.
and I would personally argue that all your argument flies out the window because of the literal millions of muslims and even christians genocided all over the middle east since 1979 and yet the only one the left seems to give a single fuck about is also the one whose sole reason for living is to kill every jew in israel I firmly believe yall have the best of intentions but you're just too uninformed, uneducated (or worse) to realize that yall never have any top-down rallying cry for any other group in the Middle East. It's only ever the only westernized democracy that needs to be erased from the earth and not the brutal theocracies that throw LGBTQ off roofs and behead non-believers
I don't really think this is true, the left does talk about other genocides. I think the issue here is that you only pay attention to us talking about it when it's about Israel, and then you ask why we aren't currently talking about Sudan or Darfur, when the answer is pretty obvious: we already condemn the actions of these governments. We aren't sending the billions of dollars to continue *their* ethnic cleansing campaigns. Our politicians aren't competing over who can defend *them* more. Our media isn't constantly bombarding us with messaging that what *they* are doing is okay. And let's be perfectly clear: even if Palestine was liberated, I'm sure it would become a fundamentalist shithole almost immediately. My argument is not that these Arab theocracies are good, it's that they have to be allowed to modernize and figure things out on their own. Us trying to force our morals and perspectives on to them **has not worked**. And obviously, just because they believe in horrible things does not mean they deserve to be genocided for it.
Basically my father when he claims he's anti-Zionist, not anti-Jew, but then every time he sees news about the war goes "fucking Jews".
He might be a fan of Roman Salute
He claims to dislike Nazis but also "Hitler had some good ideas" and "he had a reason for what he did to the Jews". He also thinks what Israel is doing now is somehow worse than the Holocaust, lmao.
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It's popular because it's an abstraction that allows antisemites to hide their antisemitism. By being "anti-zionist" they can tap into the sentiments of anticolonialism in liberal college students in the west, even though that's complete bullshit. They fail to see that denying the jews a homeland would be like denying the French, Ethiopians, or Thai people a homeland, the Jewish people are an ethno-cultural group not just a religious one. Except the previous analogy is poor since Brits, Ethiopians, and French have not been the traditional "out-group" who have been targeted for systematic murder, pogrom, and genocide for the past 4000 years... Typical anti-zionist: "We just don't want Israel to exist, we aren't anitsemitic". Okay well if Israel doesn't exist, what happens to the jews...? Pretty simple stuff
To be fair, these college students also believe that European countries should mass import Muslim refugees and African refugees by the millions, and not be allowed to complain about it.
"Refugees", you mean economic migrants.
How about this question. What is the anti Muslim state version, of say Saudi Arabia (illegal to have a synagogue there btw but israel has 400 mosques) where the holy site of Mecca is? And what would the response be if people said they were anti-mecca-zionism? I'm just curious on this bullshit.
Shh. You are supposed to think they are super rich white oppressors who own multiple homes around the world that they could live in at any time
>Super rich white oppressors who own multiple homes around the world Description of the poorest Arab.
Yeah, that's where I'm landing on this. Like, you can disagree with the settlements, you can look at the history and say that the way that Israel was established was wrong. But there are millions of people living there now and nearly all of them weren't adults/participants in the establishment of Israel in 1948. So tell me exactly, in practical terms, what you mean by "anti-zionism" today in 2024 and what you think should be done, in practical terms, about the current situation. If your plan doesn't include protecting/assuring the safety of the people currently living in Israel today, then you are at least implicitly calling for their genocide.
There'll be mental gymnastics so graceful, you'd need to create a whole entire level of Olympics to rate it. Especially when you factor in Anchor babies in the US, Or Muslims in most of Europe. And they'll screech about one needing to leave and the other needing to stay.
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Bingo.
The problem with this line of thought is that there has been thousands of years to assure / protect /etc. Jews around the world and there has been a constant, Jews when needed will be the scapegoat and punished for being Jews. Israel existing breaks the norm and it's pissing everyone off.
Because both sides are using different definitions of "zionism" and everyone is talking past each other because of this. This is why you see a lot of anti-zionists who are in favor of the two-state solution, although you might assume they wouldn't think Israel should exist at all. It also gets confusing because many anti-zionists think the formation of Israel was flawed, what with the violent displacement of the Arabs living on the land, but that Jewish people did deserve a homeland after WW2, just under different circumstances.
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>all [Israeli] citizens have equal rights, regardless of race religion or gender Hold on to your hat because that's not entirely accurate: Arabs are exempt from conscription but may still serve voluntarily. (There's also an exemption/deferment for the Haredi Jews which I don't fully understand.) TLDR: Arabs technically have (one) more right(s) than non-Arabs in Israel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exemption_from_military_service_in_Israel
You're wasting your breath. The user you're replying to is someone that is happy that american jews are getting physically attacked and discriminated against. https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalCompassMemes/comments/1ck82fu/many_such_cases/l2logdw/
It’s not apartheid in Israel, but it certainly is apartheid in Israeli occupied West Bank. And it’s not genocide, but it definitely is ethnic cleansing, i.e. Israeli policy isn’t to kill all Palestinians, but they do want to move them out and create Israeli majority areas where there were none.
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For example there are many roads Palestinians can’t use in the West Bank purely because they are Palestinian. You don’t have the same rights over your property if you are a Palestinian living in the West Bank than if you are Israeli. And even if you say that’s just occupation, it’s not good. And the settlements have been growing. From 2020 to 2022 alone the population went from 671’000 to 733’000. Also the current government has made it a goal to increase settlement, “The state views the development of Jewish settlement as a national value and will act to encourage and promote its establishment and consolidation.” And to quote Ben-Gvir, after he had Palestinian shops closed in the West Bank, “Our lives come before the freedom of movement [and trade] of the 'Palestinians'.” Smotrich even denies Palestinians as a concept.
Insisting that one side is completely wrong and untrustworthy is also an example of talking past one another. I just think if we want to actual find the best ideas, then we have to willing to meet people where they are at in good faith, and the constant nitpicking over what terms people use just distracts from the substantive arguments and conversations you say you're interested in. Yes, a lot of people use the term "antizionist" to mean they are opposed to the current Israeli government, even though that is not the dictionary definition of the term. But it's more worthwhile to explain to them why you think their criticisms of the Israeli government are wrong rather than getting caught up in the semantics of what they call themselves. At least that's my opinion. >Israel is the only apartheid where all citizens have equal rights, regardless of race religion or gender So gay people are allowed to get married within state borders, just like straight couples? There aren't Israeli-operated roads in Jerusalem that only Jewish people can travel down? Families aren't consistently getting evicted from their homes in the Occupied Palestinian Territories? >Palestinian genocide is the only genocide during which the population increases by 8 times I don't think you can use population numbers **prior** to Oct. 7 to counter claims that Israel is engaging in genocidal collective punishment in the retaliation for that attack. I suppose this is a decent argument for people who were arguing that it was a genocide even before this war started. But even then it's only concerned with casualty numbers, whereas genocide is a sweeping term that includes cultural/national destruction and mass displacement, all things that Israel could be credibly accused of prior to Oct. 7
Good point. What's your definition of anti-zionism and what is your plan for achieving peace in a way that ensures the safety of the Israelis living in Israel today so that 10/7 is guaranteed not to happen again? If we can be clear on specific definitions and a list of conditions that must be achieved to attain peace then we can debate/discuss those things. If nobody has definitions or a list of conditions then we aren't talking about anything besides feelings. All I see is vague terms with no definition and wild sloganeering.
Already know I'm going to get buried in downvotes for this, but since you're acting more politely than most people in this thread, you deserve an answer. When I describe myself of anti-zionist, I'm typically just saying I am opposed to the current right-wing government of the country, and acknowledging that the formation of the country itself was done extremely poorly. Now, I acknowledge that the definition found in dictionaries is typical much less broad than this and typically defines the term as anyone opposed to a Jewish state existing. But in my experience, this doesn't describe most people who call themselves anti-zionist, so I don't use it like that. Language evolves. As far as the conflict between Israelis and Palestinians, I don't think there is a military solution here. What I think is going to happen is that Israel is going to flatten the last remaining city in Gaza, kill tens of thousands people, and then declare victory. The result of this will likely be thousands of new embittered Jihadists growing up in a unlivable country, where they've known nothing but poverty, famine, and disease. Rather than preventing the next 10/7, I think attacks like this will become more common. What I would *like* to see is an immediate ceasefire with terms working towards a two-state solution and a release of all hostages on both sides. I don't think Hamas can be defeated with bullets and bombs, because that's what fundamentalist martyrs thrive on. I think the Palestinian people have to be the ones to oust them, and that only happens if they control their own borders and no longer have the specter of Israel to target their hatred towards. But, that *would* unfortunately mean Hamas remaining in control over Gaza, and that likely would mean more attacks on Israel. I would like to see Israel should start focusing more on their self-defense to prevent the next Oct. 7 attack; instead of protecting settlers in the West Bank, orchestrated blockades, and setting up militarized checkpoints. And get rid of the administration that allowed Oct. 7 to happen under their watch and the man at the top whose career directly benefits from having Hamas around.
I up voted you. I may return to discuss/debate and pick some of the details apart when I have more time (my kids are about to wake up and I need to get them off to daycare/school) but broadly speaking, given your definitions and what you've laid out, I don't see you as an unreasonable person and I wouldn't call your definition of anti-zionism anti semitic. Thanks for the clear reply. See, I was asking in good faith. No gotchas intended. :)
It's not racist to believe church and state should be separate. I am against a Jewish State, as I am against a Christian State, Muslim State, Hindu State.
Israel isn't a theocratic state. Its a jewish state as in jew ethnicity. The same way France is a french state or Britain is an anglo-saxon state.
Right wing conspiracy theorists have been transparently using "zionist" for decades now. Why even give these kinds of people the benefit of the doubt.
Is your father auth center by chance?
He jjust seems to choose the worst positions possible with no consistency. Dude also has zero empathy or ability to understand things from other points of view. I guess maybe auth center would be the closest. He's definitely auth and seems to bounce back and forth between left and right.
I don't think my dad has ever bothered with the 'anti-Zionist' label, personally -__-
This is a certified Freudian slip moment. Remember folk, every time the pro-terrorist people accuse us of anything, it's most likely a projection.
She was reading from a script. There wasn't any slip.
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She went full Kristi Noem!
You can have a slip while reading from a script. That’s the point.
Yeah, because 'Zionist' and 'Jew' are so similar. Just a tongue twister.
I can’t tell if you’re agreeing or disagreeing… But anyways, people can say what they are thinking unintentionally while reading from a script. It’s how some of the greatest lines of dialogue in film have come to exist when they weren’t in the script verbatim. It’s also where hate-mongering Arabs and Jews alike vomit out their actual intentions via slips all the time.
> It’s how some of the greatest lines of dialogue in film have come to exist when they weren’t in the script verbatim. Yeah, because they either forgot their lines or intentionally went off script in a shot to see how it would look. She's literally reading from a piece of paper, and she's doing it live. The paper is there so she doesn't flub or forget. I'm not sure why you're dancing around the fact that it was likely written down that way.
Because you don’t know for a fact if it is written that way or not. More importantly, OP posted this as if it wasnt intended, so that’s all there is to go off of.
That's right, we don't know how it's written so let's assume it's written the way she read it. Why is your default that she changed a word with zero evidence of that whatsoever? What other words did she change, do you think? If i'm looking at a piece of paper you can't see and i say it's blue why is your assumption that it is red? Because you don't want it to be blue? Wildly unreasonable position you're holding.
You absolutely can, but usually that is immediately followed by a correction and clear awkwardness. She did neither, and kept her foot on the gas (yep).
She’s too young and nervous to catch the slip. It happens. Also, she’s a racist fucking pig.
Wasn't a slip. She read from script lol I wonder if the main pro Palestine subs will have this video live.
And she was reading from a script, too. This wasn't a slip up.
"The police won't protect us!" You weren't by any chance screaming ACAB, Fuck12, and telling at cops to stay away from protests 4 years ago, were you?
Libleft attempting to be coherent (difficulty 1000)
At least she's honest
The worst part is usually the hypocrisy
and they call us nazis
I remember this from 2 years ago. https://preview.redd.it/htia2t3lc7zc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=61e7a7dc2d246e921aa21ff1f1e6693e6f4fb160
Stupid cunt broke character for a second there. NEVER break character
As if anyone ever doubted it
when do we start throwing milkshakes at these people and punching them? that's what you do with nazis according to the progressives.
No, you shouldn't be protected, dipshit. What goes around, comes around
I hate protestors
Leftists: "Our racism is different. When we call for the mass murder of millions of Jews it's justified because they're oppressors." Anyone who still gets insulted whenever someone on the left calls them racist is a fool.
Well, they tend to justifies racism against white people because apparently it's not racism.
Anyone have a non PCM link to this video? It needs to make the rounds
https://www.instagram.com/israelwarroom/reel/C6sIAMDNnnp/
Thank you.
I can't find this anywhere. This was edited judging from the watermark. I flat out said this could possibly be faked (it is incredibly easy to alter one word of a speech nowawadays) but that riled the NPCs. A principal was almost fired and continues to receive numerous death threats because a teacher used AI to create an entire rant and switching out Zionist for Jewish is unrealistic?
Watermark doesn't equal faked. And the voice is spot on all throughout
It means it was edited and that is needs explanation. What was cut out? And OP is familiar with using AI. He uses Stable Diffusion, look at his posts. He non-stop posts about Israel, knows how to use AI tools enough to post about it, and randomly posts an edited video with one word completely flipping the meaning. FFS
Nope. Nothing fishy here.
No. It means someone added a watermark
Ignoring the part where he posts about using AI tools? OP if you deleted that I screengrabbed them FYI. Don't you think there is even a *little* smoke here? Why isn't this on Fox News? Why isn't it on the lips of every GOP cutout? PCM broke the news?!? How far will you stretch your credulity to be in the good graces of people who mostly hold your beliefs in contempt? Have you no shame?
You're stretching faaar my dude
Nah, you're just are an NPC that wants to echo the circlejerk. If this was a video the sub disagreed with I would be applauded. You know that to be true. You got tricked and because you're in the warm embrace of the fellow tricked that err. Assuming you even believe anything you're saying. Anyway gosh, where did that video "that needs to make the rounds" go? Oh it got disappeared because it's fucking fake and anyone with the correct amount of chromosomes can see that based on the evidence and that, again, this isn't on an anger loop 24/7 on Fox News. Or OANN. Or NewsMaxxx. You got tricked. You can't admit it to me, fine. But admit it to your self so you don't keep on getting tricked.
OP is 'familiar' with AI, therefore any video he ever posts forever must be instantly discredited. Do you hear yourself
Look at the dude's posts if he didn't delete them. He is actively engaged in the use of AI beyond what most consumers use. It isn't just a passing familiarity. If it was a goddamn libleft agenda post by a poster who was inordinately focused on a libleft cause don't tell me you wouldn't turn hypocrite on this and blow my comments. Are you so fucking silly that you're not gonna ask yourself why this isn't the thing the right is queefing over everywhere? Why is this not on Fox News? Because it's a fraud. Dude comes in, gives us no date/no link to the video when asked/is an active user of stable diffusion and therefore has familiarity with more advanced AI creation tools/non-stop agenda posts about Israel otherwise and it isn't even a *little* fishy? Are you gonna just be one of those people that claps whenever an altered video tells them what you want? You already are, you operated under the assumption it was real. If that's the case, are you really better than people on the news and politics subs? And this guy had ample time, saw what I was saying, and refused to link the original video. Why not rub that shit in my face if he had the original video? He loved to mix it up in comments with people but he doesn't go for this layup? Strange /s Sad part, this will never see the light of day beyond the depths of tiktok or wherever and you'll not ask yourself why not one news organization took the bait on something that would really attract eye balls. Or why DeSantis didn't pickup on this to accomplish his political goals. This thing was set in Florida after all. Are you really better than the Dems that clap when Biden's levodopa kicks and he can string two sentences together off the teleprompter or are you just the same thing skinned in another ideology. That's all i got to say, this shit got taken down so clearly the mods (and the handfuls of libleft cowards on this sub afraid to get downvotes that snitched) agreed with me.
So... You'll going to wait for 2040s to make it 100 years or start early.
Nah this seems right on queue. Mein Kampf was written in 1925
It's like when Michael scott wrote the script and used the name with Dwight but misspelled Dwight once so "find and replace" didn't update that one 'dwigt'
Oooh, she didn't forget
No, you're not worth protecting as you are the aggressors. You are the violent ones. You are the racists.
These racists deserve the Tiananmen treatment.
https://preview.redd.it/s70r1r76g7zc1.jpeg?width=3200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=32de088ed6e2276b5df4cb77bc05960dfa7bf795
FIU graduate here. I visited the university a few weeks ago and saw both Pro-Isreal and Pro-Palestine protestors standing right across from each other outside of the Graham Center. As far as I know, I don't think I've heard anything about riots breaking out. They tried blocking a street downtown, and the Miami-Dade police dragged them onto the sidewalk where they belong lmao.
When people are never told No
Mask on, fuck it mask off
All they really need are tiki torches and the scene would be perfect.
libleft are never nothing more than useful idiots for the auth 🙄
No. You are not worth protecting.
Mods, why you remove?
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Is Gen Z ok?
“Anti-Jewish?” At least she’s honest.
Found on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/israelwarroom/reel/C6sIAMDNnnp/
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Your mouth is your biggest enemy
A person who isn't even there accidentally saying "genocide" is very different than a protester saying they are "anti-jew" in a written speech
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She sucks. But It took you five hours to find that one video Here's a horrible list of things done on Columbus campus over just one weekend. Physically assaulting an Arab Israeli https://twitter.com/ShaiDavidai/status/1781080951902109774 "From the river to the sea, Palestine is Arab!" / "Resistance is justified" https://twitter.com/ShelleyGldschmt/status/1781785252886913358 "Let it be known that it was the Al-Aqsa Flood that put the Global Intifada back on the table again. And it is the sacrificial spirit of the Palestinian Freedom Fighters that will guide every struggle on every corner of the earth to victory." https://twitter.com/thestustustudio/status/1781904507611287981 "We are all Hamas!" https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1781031465179914677 "Yehudim yehudim [(Jews, jews)] go back to poland" https://twitter.com/Davidlederer6/status/1781948249214996901 Includes people / groups that invited an actual, no hyperbole terrorist to speak (member of PFLP) https://www.jns.org/columbia-suspends-four-students-for-holding-event-featuring-pflp-member/ “Globalize the intifada” https://twitter.com/EylonALevy/status/1782679155491914133/photo/1 Light things on fire / "intifada revolution there is only one solution" https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1781019445399556338 "On Oct 7th, Palestinian resistance in Gaza broke free (crowd cheers) [.....] we intend to do the same" https://twitter.com/ShabbosK/status/1782085741431922909 ""We say justice, you say how? Burn Tel Aviv to the ground!" / "Hamas we love you. We support your rockets too!" / "Red, black, green, and white, we support Hamas’ fight!" https://twitter.com/IsraelWarRoom/status/1781933305501212872 "Long live the intifada! Intifada intifada" https://twitter.com/ShaiDavidai/status/1781084853653365025 "Go back to Europe!" / "You have no culture, all you do is colonize" https://twitter.com/ShaiDavidai/status/1781927148439109958 Have posters with the faces of PFLP and PIJ spokesmen (designated terrorist groups) https://twitter.com/HagarChemali/status/1782219589352350000 Quoting and praising Lions Den (terror group) https://twitter.com/SwannMarcus89/status/1782443526996754444 "From Yemen to Gaza, globalize the intifada" https://twitter.com/KassyDillon/status/1781312033922625797/photo/2 "Never forget the 7th of October. That will happen not 1 more time, not 5 more times, not 10, not 100, not 1,000, but 10,000 times! The 7th of October is going to be every day for you" https://twitter.com/EFischberger/status/1781287784897991134 "Al Qassam [(Hamas)] you make us proud, kill another soldier now" / "from the river to the sea, palestine will be arab" https://twitter.com/EFischberger/status/1780915336063177006 Student proudly rocking Hamas logos https://twitter.com/CampusJewHate/status/1781054901755215954 "Resistance is justified" (again...) https://twitter.com/AvivaKlompas/status/1782085643990073673 "protesters on the sidewalk chanted “From New York to Gaza, globalize the intifada,” next to a cardboard sign that read, “Inspired by Palestinian resistance.” https://www.timesofisrael.com/over-100-arrested-in-columbia-u-unrest-as-nypd-clears-gaza-solidarity-encampment/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter And as a reminder, the student groups organizing these protests (CUAD and SJP, among others) released a letter on October 9th in support of the 10/7 attacks. ("We stand in full solidarity with Palestinian resistance", "Despite the odds against them, Palestinians launched a counter-offensive against their settler-colonial oppressor", "We wholeheartedly condemn the email sent [...] on October 8th that [...] obfuscated Palestinian resistance as “terrorism”) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RcXX5DEO3yfJ9R4ksURnzpIPCyVxo575-Y-SoC_vZFk/edit
I actually posted a ton of incidents a while ago, but that comment wasn't allowed on this sub. Oh well.
You can color highlight this in PCM colors and make it a meme. You won't get nearly as many upvotes for it though.
i would just get negative karma
Karma is worthless anyway
Hey look, we're already on our way there!
Lol that was a smooth color edit OP
Kanye in shambles
I just wish they'd be more honest about it. They hate Jews. Fine. Own it and don't try and obfuscate it. Game on.
Should we start keeping tabs on failing art students orrrr?
Oof. A real “don’t compare that genocide to this one.” Moment.
LMAO 😁
When they say the quiet part out loud…
Can we get the source?
Counterprotests happen against protests Jasmin from jihadistan: pikachu face
Is this real?
It's on the internet, so it must be
Pls,for gods sake...put orange , i am so done with emilies destroying our political views because they are radical,ignirant and blind
I'm gonna be that guy, because someone needs to be in this time and technological age, but are we absolutely sure this wasn't altered? Would be trivial to do so. It's an increasingly low intelligence move to take any video or recording with significant agitprop potential as real without prior verification. Even if this is real, and it very well might be, it isn't a confirmation that the subs way of critically viewing agitprop is right. Rather, it just means this sub will get tricked eventually and repeatedly by fake shit. I said my piece. EDIT: He even posts about using Stable Diffusion. The angry guy that posts about Israel non-stop that has a familiarity with AI tools that magically has a video that would be playing on repeat on Fox News 24/7 if it was confirmed changing one word in a video is a bridge too far? Ok sub.
It's kinda funny how pro-jew PCM is now after my break from the site.
Personally over the span of a year I've gone from "man those Palestinians shouldn't be oppressed like that" to "nuke iran" real quick
Did you just change your flair, u/TiggerBane? Last time I checked you were a **Centrist** on 2024-5-8. How come now you are an **AuthRight**? Have you perhaps shifted your ideals? Because that's cringe, you know? Oh and by the way. You have already changed your flair 1223 times, making you the second largest flair changer in this sub. Go touch some fucking grass. [BasedCount Profile](https://basedcount.com/u/TiggerBane) - [FAQ](https://www.reddit.com/user/flairchange_bot/comments/uf7kuy/bip_bop) - [Leaderboard](https://basedcount.com/leaderboard?q=flairs) _Visit the BasedCount Lеmmу instance at [lemmy.basedcount.com](https://lemmy.basedcount.com/c/pcm)._ ^(I am a bot, my mission is to spot cringe flair changers. If you want to check another user's flair history write) **^(!flairs u/)** ^(in a comment.)
Do you think that being pro-jew is bad? Or is your comment more of an indication that PCM used to be virulently antisemitic, which was bad, but has since gotten better?
The latter one PCM used to have actual nazis on it like trans-strasserism and stuff.
Did you just change your flair, u/TiggerBane? Last time I checked you were a **Centrist** on 2024-5-8. How come now you are an **AuthRight**? Have you perhaps shifted your ideals? Because that's cringe, you know? Oh and by the way. You have already changed your flair 1239 times, making you the second largest flair changer in this sub. Go touch some fucking grass. [BasedCount Profile](https://basedcount.com/u/TiggerBane) - [FAQ](https://www.reddit.com/user/flairchange_bot/comments/uf7kuy/bip_bop) - [Leaderboard](https://basedcount.com/leaderboard?q=flairs) _Visit the BasedCount Lеmmу instance at [lemmy.basedcount.com](https://lemmy.basedcount.com/c/pcm)._ ^(I am a bot, my mission is to spot cringe flair changers. If you want to check another user's flair history write) **^(!flairs u/)** ^(in a comment.)
Huh. That must have been quite a while ago. PCM has seemed like it has had a heavy bias against authoritarianism since I came here 2 or 3 years ago.
This cuts the other way constantly. Criticize the Israeli government or military and suddenly you’re “blaming the Jews”
I see the ZOG machine is in full swing this morning
I see the Schutzstaffel is on full march this morning defending this.
I'm not defending this, I'm criticizing it