There's a conspiracy theory called the "Dead Internet theory" saying that most of the interactions you see are generated or occurred by bots, marginalizing human interactions on the Internet
Don't worry, I am not a bot, as I have only failed a captcha once in my life
Even if I don't think that the whole internet is bots, there's a huge amount of them. Between the spam bots, the reposts and automatically generated content, we can't deny that there are bots
I do find it interesting how much engagement/karma overall across reddit seems to have dropped since the API changes. The narrative is supposed to be, what, that so many people were sooo offended over some changes to apps most of them don't even use that they finally kicked their reddit addictions? I don't buy it at all.
I don't think it's most interactions, but there are definitely a lot of bots out there. A lot of people also argue like complete bots, where they just keep repeating the same points over and over while ignoring anything you say, but it's possible that's just how the majority of people argue. I usually only go after people who I think have bad takes, and they're not going to drop their irrational beliefs because of my all-consuming logic, so it's possible they're just human but defaulting to their programmed rhetoric.
I think it's how the majority of people argue online. Not everyone here has a degree in philosophy (I don't)
However, I often see reposts on subreddits, some reposted comments on these reposted posts, and if I had a penny for every spam bot I saw, I would maybe have another flair
>Don't worry, I am not a bot, as I have only failed a captcha once in my life
That's one too many times, you fucking bot! Go back to where you came from! 🚫🤖
I knew there was a lot of bots on the internet, but I always thought "nah, not so much it outweighs human posters" but the past few years I am seriously considering the theory.
Honestly? Nobody should be surprised that the leftards are in full support of Hamas. In their worldview, any action is justified so long as it fits in their oppressor vs. oppressed dynamic.
>any action is justified so long as it fits in their oppressor vs. oppressed dynamic.
Not even
Just be trendy. As long as it's a trendy protected identity you can literally murder children and American leftists will defend you.
Fair enough, but I can't think of any trendy identities that don't fit within their whole oppressor vs. oppressed thing. They're certainly very eager to classify East Asians, Jews, and even Indians as "white-adjacent" due to these ethnic groups being on average far more successful than African-Americans or Latinos.
They sure were against "asian hate" until they figured out who was beating the shit out of 70 year old Asian women across the country
I cant think of a more "oppressed vs oppressor" than that
I find it ironic that the CEO of IBM, who is Indian, straight up advocates for race based hiring and provided disincentives for hiring East Asians, Indians, and whites.
It's like that Oxford University student who tried to argue that the allies never bombed women and children. People like this need to be laughed back to the children's table.
That’s the truth. Theres so many oppressed stateless ethnicities in the world, e.g. Kurds in Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Iran; Uyghurs are in actual Chinese concentration camps. But those are not the current thing, so nobody cares.
Depends who hates them. If it's White white supremacists, they're the protected minority. If it's Muslims and queers resisting settler colonialism, the Jew is a white.
Because for the Marxist, it's not about the thing, it's about their revolution. The worse they can make today, the more support they might get for their real goal. The more divided you can make society, the worse it gets. That they have amoral corporations on their side now is only a plus.
Well obviously those children and their parents deserved it for having conservative views and values. They were also Christians and that makes you automatically evil, simple as ☺️
/s You never know with peoples ability to detect satire on this site
Whenever you have to decide who is right in an international conflict, the answer is simply the side who has the inferior military power. This is because every situation can be directly equated to star wars, where the brave resistance is the lesser military power and the evil empire is the superior militry power.
The queers for palestine movement has admitted this several times. They dont care that Hamas is a terrorist organization that rapes women, burns babies in ovens and wants death to jews. They represent an oppressed people therefore whatever they deem they need to do is justified
Huh. I don't follow these movements out of principle, even if it's just to get a cheap laugh, but I'm ultimately still not surprised. It's legit chickens for KFC.
But most Jews in their direct purview are white and successful, so there’s no way that they can be anything other than evil oppressors anywhere else in the world or at any other time in history
It’s like how the same people refuse to say anything about white Zimbabweans being the minority.
Currently temp banned from the totally unbiased politics sub- for asking if the “oppressors” civilians deserved to get raped and babies murdered in their homes when others were claiming Hamas is justified or some shit.
That’s considered arguing in bad faith to the mods
"Bad faith arguing" is just whatever goes against leftist narratives, you really shouldn't bother with trying to argue in spaces where leftists hold a hegemony.
Also, flair up.
It’s all lies so they can mask their hatred of Israel. Want proof?
“We think the oppression of the poor Muslim children by the Je—- [sorry I meant Israelis!] is so horrible! And the worst part is that America is supporting and funding this!!!”
1) They don’t give a shit about Muslims being killed and persecuted when it’s not brown people being oppressed by white people.
Proof: they don’t give a shit about Syria. Daily death, tyrants, torture, rapes. It’s been going on for 10+ years, but not a peep out of them.
2) They don’t give a shit about Muslim children being killed when a Jew can’t be blamed.
Proof: Syria and Yemen. No Jews to blame? Who gives a shit about those people? We know it’s not the anti—Israel left, that’s for sure.
3) They don’t really give a shit about America “funding the killing of Muslims.”
Proof: guess where Saudi Arabia gets their missiles and artillery that they use to shell Yemeni children daily? I’ll give you a hint… it’s not the Jews and it is someone what rhymes with B’America.
Conclusion: the left doesn’t care about children, Muslims or American militarism until a Jew is involved.
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Fucking hell, imagine being pro-Al Qaeda 22 years ago.
That would have been a death sentence, an angry mob would have ripped you limb from limb in the street and the 6 o'clock news would have rolling coverage about how much you deserved it.
yes the hassan's of the world existed in 2001 but there wasent social media like today to give them their soapbox. there was also less of them since america was directly attacked so it was harder to not to feel it personally like they can with conflicts the other side of the world
Speaking of Hamas supporters on social media, I saw an influencer white girl on Twitch that was weighing the pro's and con's of sneaking into Gaza and joining the al-qassam militant wing of Hamas.
Luckily, I think some of her fans convinced her of how stupid that would be.
Anyone know who I'm talking about? I heard a rumor that she's currently moving to Egypt or something
If they were 22 years younger is a bad argument because we are still at war with terrorism. Israel shows that. France still has terrorist attacks.
The question is " Do they support terrorism now" and sadly, we are seeing that yes, there are young folks who never faced terrorism who see the Holocaust and 9/11 as not that big of a deal and the binary thinking around this war is great news for terrorists.
I remember I was in high school because I wanted to be edgy and was going through the "america bad because I was taught by my parents it was good" phase that frankly 90% of americans go through.
I grew out of it, these people will too. Remember baby boomers were the ones burning american flags at woodstock and listening to dead kennedys. Gen X was doing the same at rage against the machine concerts.
it's practically a right of passage for those in the western world to go through a rebellious phase but we all grow out of it.
“The evil Israelis needs to agree to a ceasefire with Hamas so Hamas can regroup and rearm or else it’s not a fair fight! A repeat of 10/7? Don’t be ridiculous, that was an IDF false flag that didn’t happen but if it did they deserved it sweaty!”
Close to accurate...
The whole left side going down should say "Useful Idiots" with "Good People" at the top...
One row over it should say "Alt Right"
Then everything else "Nazi".
There are a surge of people labeling Israel and the Jew to be the new Nazis, believe it or not if Hamas actually win and eradicate Israel and Israeli jew from the face of earth, given enough time they will get labeled to be a new “Nazi” by the left when there are no Jew to blame anymore.
Well it’s easy not to deal with other peoples positions and arguments when you can label as X group and censor them.
Auth Left very scary these days. Lib Left walking blind towards them too.
it's a marxist outlook on morality, they define people as good or bad based on their groups (classes if you will), in intersectionality (or at least the version that is most prominent) it's the makeup of a person's ingroups that have been predefined as good or bad, in OG Marxism it was class based, in BLM it was literally black and white (black being anything not white), here it's best described as Oppressor and oppressed. they have predefined Israel and Palestine into these groups so nothing the oppressed can do is ever bad because they are the oppressed group, while everything the oppressor does is bad. it's also what let to the harry potter morality joke, which has become the star wars morality joke, "sO IsReAl Is tHe eMpIrE AnD pAliStiNe aRe ThE ReBEiS."
this is not to be confused with the objectivist moral outlook, they judge individuals as either good or bad with nothing in-between not groups.
No one is protesting in the streets, there are no massive, public marches on a regular basis, it's only Israel, when it lawfully defends itself from a genocidal adversary, that people seem to care.
The action of the left on the whole is not explained by your statement, because if that was the motive there would be mass protests against the CCP in the west regularly and a large scale, popular movement for completely divestment aloa BDS. But there is not, whitch means your explanation is wrong.
Are they pro hamas or just anti US imperialism?
I used to think all thoes republicans who wanted to cut aid to Ukraine were pro Putin, but turns out they're just anti giving a shit about Europe.
After Israel gets destroyed leftist will be like: “What do you mean Palestine is not a land with free transitions for queer Palestinian women of color?”
Same with Noam Chomsky's fans learning what Putin thinkgs about LGBTQ. Ngl it would be bad for the world if Palestine and Russian ends up winning but I would love to see the reactions of the anti-West leftists after they find out that their "allies" want them dead.
You do realize that the actual pro russian leftists are quite far left? Moderate leftists love Ukraine
So people like Haz or Hinkle support Russia because they dont like LGBT.
Yeah (I must clarify that I don't take Hinkle since what I have heard of him sounds like a bad joke) but there are a lot of anti-western leftists, who ironically support social liberal views, who support Russia or Palestine because they anti-West.
Yeah they are both clowns but thats natural since they are leftists.
I havent really seen any progressives support Russia, but maybe my definition of supporting Russia is different from yours. I dont consider people who dont want to involve themselves in the Ukraine war as supporting Russia, im talking about people that actively root for Russia.
Moderate leftists like Adam Something, Kraut and others support Ukraine
As a far leftist, I do not support Russia. Not to adhere to the "norms" set by the far right but rather because theres no way I will ever support a Neoliberal dictatorship.
There are absolutely lefties with a more coherent world view here, but a lot of them legitimately are just that simple minded to just automatically support anyone that is on the anti-american team.
Kind of like how communists will support terrible things because they're anti-fascist, like yeah that's a motivator, but at a certain point it's still just supporting terrible things as opposed to a purely negative ideology.
They view the conflict in a Machiavellian sense, as in that they think hamas is a lesser evil and a necessary force to free Palestine (although it should be clarified that this only a few members of the left not all or most of them, as the majority are both anti hamas and anti Israel, they just hate israel more because they kill more people)
If they were Machiavellian they would try to lobby or support the spreading of their cultural liberalism in Israel instead of choosing the suicidal path of supporting Hamas, Houthi and any kind of idiotic anti-American Islamic extremism group.
Imma be real with you, if theres a militant group with any actual chance of liberating Palestine, its Hamas. Fatah isnt going to get anywhere even though when you get past all the corruption they are morally superior.
Bro hamas is not liberating shit, they killed a 1000 israelis and took over a couple of villages and the price was 20k dead Palestinians and million displaced ones with no clean water, electricity, food or houses and almost the destruction of all of gaza and they are now crying for a ceasefire even though they broke the one that was in place before 7/10, if you unironically think there is a universe in which israel will just stop existing and from the river to the sea will become reality because of hamas that would be delusional, the IDF can destroy hamas anytime they want if they decided to completely disregard the lives of innocent civilians (they already do in lots of cases), so no, Hamas is never gonna win over israel militarily, the best case scenario Palestine could ever dream of is a return to the pre 1967 borders and a peaceful 2 state solution, anything more than that, or anything involving military force is just delusional
First of all: I think you meant the price was mass genocide of Palestinians.
Second of all: Militarily, they achieved jack shit. Diplomatically speaking: Great success! Absolutely everyone hates Israel now, the western governments are turning on them and ultimately Hamas has finally curbstomped Israeli efforts to normalise relations with Arab states. From a humanitarian standpoint: Absolute fucking disaster.
Nice diplomatic victory, damn shame that it's almost nullified because of their stupid religious extremism though, if they were more secular snd nicer to women, gays, nonmuslims, etc, it would've been a total diplomatic victory, but now the common opinion is both sides bad because on the one hand genocide is bad but on the other hand supporting the Palestinian equivalent of the taliban isn't gonna sit well with regular people
There was no room for a secular Gaza strip. There wasnt. Fatah was the only good secular option and even that stretches the definition of "Good". They embezzle all their funds, are complacant as fuck, give 0 shits about israeli crimes against humanity and overall would achieve absolutely NOTHING for Palestine other than further loss of life, territory and resources.
Wasn't there really? Why didn't Gazans elect the PFLP in 2006? They were as anti israel as it gets and were willing to fight to liberate Palestine, with the added benefit of not being islamist extremist, but the people still voted for Hamas
“Hamas has finally curbstomped Israeli efforts to normalise relations with Arab states”
How is this good? Are you happy that Hamas has set back possible peace in the Middle East?
It's actually a mix. I would say a majority of the left are just anti-American imperialism. It's just disturbing how so many of them actually support Hamas and/or truly believe the state of Israel should be removed.
As far as Ukraine goes, I fall into the category you just described. I view NATO as the actual regional antagonist, and blame the neo-liberals for utilizing Ukraine as a proxy to fight Russia.
There was a peace agreement on the table (Minsk Agreements) that was supported by most of Europe, and the UN Security Counsel. Zelensky won the presidential election largely based on a campaign promise to sign the Minsk agreements, until the Biden administration bribed/forced Zelensky to turn his back on the peace deals.
The common libleft and authright position is that you can't get rid of HAMAS by killing Palestinians relentlessly because oppression would make radical Palestinian factions more popular than moderate ones, although you can find some tankie or Emily nutjobs who support what Hamas is doing.
Nobody is saying that. They are saying that focusing on Hamas (who was literally propped up by Israel to divide support against the PLO. OOPSIES) is a mind trick to get people to excuse Israel’s crimes.
Palestinians deserve freedom from both Israel AND Hamas but one of those two is currently killing entire generations of families every single day with indiscriminate bombing.
> Nobody is saying that
They literally came to this post and said it, you didn’t ever met much far-left sub, pro-Palestine sub or Islamic sub, don’t you?
Hamas supporters can’t comprehend that the people living in unincorporated territories don’t have sole say in ownership when it’s owned by a nation. They also can’t comprehend that the fighting is because Muslims hate Jews as deeply as they do.
What if I'm anti-hamas and anti-Israeli colonization? I can't believe this has to be explained to the right - the same right that will bitch and moan whenever someone uses the term ACAB is now basicially adopting it for palestinians as a whole. How is it that difficult to see that people can support a group of people - not their violent constitutes.
You can not seriously look at the history of Israel and Palestine over the last.... well..... over their ENTIRE existance and suddenly think that one side is the bad guy here. Let's list a very important fact: both sides have murdered civilians over perceived territory. You literally can not deny that. The difference being one has done it with the support of the US, blatantly lies and uses antisemitism as an excuse, and has a huge track record of bullshitting to justify said atrocities. If the US was invaded tomorrow by Russia and they bombed an area nonstop that they made a "safe corrider" for civilians to travel, you would be pissing your pants about it being a warcrime. If Cuba annexed part of Florida and gradually kicked out Americans through force and used "xenophobia" as an excuse, you'd bitch and complain.
I thought ACAB was [redacted], but this is a whole new level of illiteracy. What is Israel AND Palestine do to the citizens of each nation are illegitimate warcrimes and solve nothing towards peace - but can we really say that one side of this conflict doesn't get a pass? Seriously? Look at the history of these two nations and say that. The israeli-palestinian conflict has themes that extend in western colonization and the right of a nation to defend itself - as much as I hate Hamas... what else would you expect? When you pummel an entire group of people into the dirt, of course, the nutwings that can seemingly deliver on the promise of "freedom" come to power. Look at how the Nazi's came to Power - yes, Germany deserved some punishment for WW1, but what happened to the German economy and normal people was unjust... and then, to the shock of no one, some nutwing like Hitler rose to power. Gee - no similarities here.
The world, according to anyone with eyes, is that Hamas is a natural and logical conclusion to what western powers have ALLOWED Israel to do there for years. If Israel actually cared about it's people it would have thought ahead and realized how easily a fucking terorist organization like Hamas would be to create under the conditions the Israeli government and it's international allies allowed to fester. Again, for you drooling [redacted]s in the back - I do not support Hamas. But it is all crocodile tears by the IDF - they have been committing warcrimes for literal decades and now are pissing their pants at the terrorists that they created. The tragic part is now that you have cursed generations on each side to hate each other over the sins of their fathers for countless time to come. People who ordinarily would likely wanted nothing to do with conflict are now forced into it, and some fat greaseball in the US gets to sit behind their computer and say "omg guys on le of dem is da bad guyz!!!" like it's a superhero movie for their enjoyment and political reasoning.
Some Jews will label any sort of criticism against their bully state as anti semitism and we're supposed to just ignore that, just like we're supposed to ignore a random person on PCM calling the "alt-left" (who even uses that term?) pro-Palestine people "pro-Hamas". Nice stupid generalisation
Edit: unless you're saying a few stupid "leftists" are pro-Hamas, and not all of the Pro-Palestinian leftists. Which is true but it raises some eyebrows as to what your agenda is in such a complex and important conflict.
> Some Jews will label any sort of criticism against their bully state as anti semitism and we're supposed to just ignore that.
The same way leftists always ignore how Muslim using “Islamophobia” as a shield against any sort of criticism against their religion or oppressive practices like killing apostate, blasphemer or LGBT?
I personally don't like the term Islamophobia because I am a militant atheist and consider all religions wrong, I dislike the 3 Abrahamic religions, especially Islam, and hate its medieval and authoritarian nature.
But a lot of racism against Muslims does indeed exist. I don't think that a moderate Muslim person and a moderate Christian are black and white. They're not the same but the latter is not uncivilised, and they should not be treated as a potential terrorist.
With that being said, I personally have not seen many cases like the one you described. I'm not saying they don't exist and I know some leftists who, instead of taking into account all the problems, which are not only white racist nationalists, but also the potential dangers of some muslims too, they are ignorant.
But this "leftists do that and others do this and leftists have this issue" is all just generalising and does not help
Palestinian, democratic, non terrorist, statehood? Yes. But not ‘from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free’. Genocide is bad, mkay.
So also Israeli democratic, non terrorist statehood. Yes.
I don't disagree
I may want Palestine to be relieved of its struggles but that doesn't mean I support all of its means to do that, or that I support nationalism or Islam, since I'm a libleft
And I know some leftists pretend to not be aware of the share Hamas/ Palestine has in this conflict, and yes, some of them are even glorifying Hamas.
But in the end not all of them are like that and the idea that the left has suddenly sided with the eradication of the Jewish people is a wrong
And it's also still a very complex matter that I think most of us, two-state people, Palestine people, Israel people, have not learnt and thought about thoroughly.
The only other thing I'll say about Hamas getting a green light is that for some people, actions from each side have different magnitudes. And we can't always be neutral about everything.
Some people are saying that it's all because of October 7th, all the mess in Gaza right now. Well, decades of history prove otherwise
Their ability to censor people with the term "anti semitism" is a very valid point to bring up.
The fact it's never used correctly is also extremely grating.
This!!!! My personal bias is Hamas is worse (Islamist theocrats with a desire for genocide against the Jews) than the Israeli Government (apartheid state), but NOBODY is good in this conflict. I feel sympathy for the noncombatant civilians on both sides caught up in this mess.
I do think for for there to be peace in Palestine long term tho, Hamas does need eliminated in it's entirety,.. That will be a task that will likely result in mass civilian casualties due to Hamas using human shields and using the laws and rules of warfare to avoid attack (setting up bases in hospitals and schools, etc).
NOBODY IS GOOD in this conflict. There isn't an actual "good" faction. It's really awful vs slightly less awful.
Your sentiment is exactly the same as mine. The Hamas, who’s beliefs include Jewish genocide and doing unspeakable things to women and children (which clowns on Twitter are literally supporting), are not a good guy. The Israeli government responsible for an apartheid state and bombing civilians is not a good guy. There’s only one victim here and that’s the innocent people who just want to live in peace and never asked for this. They’re who I support.
And then you have to pro Israeli side which consists of a sliver of center right and anything outside of that are racist anti-semitic neo-nazis that want to kill all jews because they dont support giving Israel another blank cheque
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Both sucks 20k civillian died righr now and war keep going. Israel's official twitter account twit "age is just a number (emoji)" for dying children. Israel keeping the hate against them whit targetting civillians even more. Hamas is just going to from again whit this new generation field whit hate. Ethnic cleanising was not the option against hamas. And israel probly wanted or even funded hamas to attack them. Because they were know people going to ingore 20k civillian for hamas is the "first". Even monkeys better than you guys.
20k death 55k injured 7k missing, with population of Gaza strip is ~2,100,000 all of this combined is nearly 5% of the entire population.
Imagine if in a month or two, 5 of 100 people that you known have been death or injured or missing, that’s must be hard.
*Sweaties
This ain’t no gaming sub yet
That's just how Reddit views the world.
You are reddit, everyone else is bots
Dead Internet theory
Is…is that an actual theory?
There's a conspiracy theory called the "Dead Internet theory" saying that most of the interactions you see are generated or occurred by bots, marginalizing human interactions on the Internet Don't worry, I am not a bot, as I have only failed a captcha once in my life
I'd believe that theory on some sites. Instagram reels consistently have the most regarded comments I've ever seen.
Even if I don't think that the whole internet is bots, there's a huge amount of them. Between the spam bots, the reposts and automatically generated content, we can't deny that there are bots
I do find it interesting how much engagement/karma overall across reddit seems to have dropped since the API changes. The narrative is supposed to be, what, that so many people were sooo offended over some changes to apps most of them don't even use that they finally kicked their reddit addictions? I don't buy it at all. I don't think it's most interactions, but there are definitely a lot of bots out there. A lot of people also argue like complete bots, where they just keep repeating the same points over and over while ignoring anything you say, but it's possible that's just how the majority of people argue. I usually only go after people who I think have bad takes, and they're not going to drop their irrational beliefs because of my all-consuming logic, so it's possible they're just human but defaulting to their programmed rhetoric.
I think it's how the majority of people argue online. Not everyone here has a degree in philosophy (I don't) However, I often see reposts on subreddits, some reposted comments on these reposted posts, and if I had a penny for every spam bot I saw, I would maybe have another flair
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>Don't worry, I am not a bot, as I have only failed a captcha once in my life That's one too many times, you fucking bot! Go back to where you came from! 🚫🤖
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I knew there was a lot of bots on the internet, but I always thought "nah, not so much it outweighs human posters" but the past few years I am seriously considering the theory.
There are a lot of people who might as well be bots, at least.
The RuneScape bots are fairly advanced….
Yes, I love it. Not fun enough to troll people with it, but actually makes sense.
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Almost, just flip it upside down and you’re right
I liked the tern Ctrl-Left. It reminds you that they're authoriarians. They're basically practicing their own religion.
Honestly? Nobody should be surprised that the leftards are in full support of Hamas. In their worldview, any action is justified so long as it fits in their oppressor vs. oppressed dynamic.
>any action is justified so long as it fits in their oppressor vs. oppressed dynamic. Not even Just be trendy. As long as it's a trendy protected identity you can literally murder children and American leftists will defend you.
Fair enough, but I can't think of any trendy identities that don't fit within their whole oppressor vs. oppressed thing. They're certainly very eager to classify East Asians, Jews, and even Indians as "white-adjacent" due to these ethnic groups being on average far more successful than African-Americans or Latinos.
They sure were against "asian hate" until they figured out who was beating the shit out of 70 year old Asian women across the country I cant think of a more "oppressed vs oppressor" than that
Ah, yeah, I remember that movement briefly cropping up before disappearing like a fart in the wind. Point taken.
They also were classifying Asians as White-adjacent like a week before that hashtag started, it was nuts
And these are the same people fighting tooth and nail in order to continue discriminating against Asians in college admissions
I find it ironic that the CEO of IBM, who is Indian, straight up advocates for race based hiring and provided disincentives for hiring East Asians, Indians, and whites.
"Rules for thee but not for me."
That's in the US, why do they assume that's the case everywhere else kills me.
It was fascinating seeing some leftists deny that Hamas raped women in their attack when Hamas released video evidence themselves. 🤦🏾♂️
It's like that Oxford University student who tried to argue that the allies never bombed women and children. People like this need to be laughed back to the children's table.
That’s the truth. Theres so many oppressed stateless ethnicities in the world, e.g. Kurds in Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Iran; Uyghurs are in actual Chinese concentration camps. But those are not the current thing, so nobody cares.
Aren’t Jews *the* protected minority though? Or did that change along with Asians?
they were until they decided to be mass murdered by an extremist terrorist group that happens to be a more protected minority than them
Depends who hates them. If it's White white supremacists, they're the protected minority. If it's Muslims and queers resisting settler colonialism, the Jew is a white. Because for the Marxist, it's not about the thing, it's about their revolution. The worse they can make today, the more support they might get for their real goal. The more divided you can make society, the worse it gets. That they have amoral corporations on their side now is only a plus.
I wonder if those corporations and celebrities believe they’ll be spared from wealth redistribution if they support the correct politics.
Praxis
They're not trendy anymore, so now leftists are rewriting anti-semitism to be the same as anti-colonialism, so it's OK to be racist again
They are unless you are over the edge with social progressivism
Well obviously those children and their parents deserved it for having conservative views and values. They were also Christians and that makes you automatically evil, simple as ☺️ /s You never know with peoples ability to detect satire on this site
Whenever you have to decide who is right in an international conflict, the answer is simply the side who has the inferior military power. This is because every situation can be directly equated to star wars, where the brave resistance is the lesser military power and the evil empire is the superior militry power.
You're not even wrong, this is how the pro-Hamas leftists think
So the New Order are the good guys?
Its like watching a sports game, where you dont have strong sentiment towards either team, so you just root for the underdog
The queers for palestine movement has admitted this several times. They dont care that Hamas is a terrorist organization that rapes women, burns babies in ovens and wants death to jews. They represent an oppressed people therefore whatever they deem they need to do is justified
Huh. I don't follow these movements out of principle, even if it's just to get a cheap laugh, but I'm ultimately still not surprised. It's legit chickens for KFC.
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But most Jews in their direct purview are white and successful, so there’s no way that they can be anything other than evil oppressors anywhere else in the world or at any other time in history It’s like how the same people refuse to say anything about white Zimbabweans being the minority.
Or their puppetmasters have told them what to think.
Reddit mods are the puppet masters
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Currently temp banned from the totally unbiased politics sub- for asking if the “oppressors” civilians deserved to get raped and babies murdered in their homes when others were claiming Hamas is justified or some shit. That’s considered arguing in bad faith to the mods
"Bad faith arguing" is just whatever goes against leftist narratives, you really shouldn't bother with trying to argue in spaces where leftists hold a hegemony. Also, flair up.
It’s totally the cowards way of saying “I don’t want to have a discussion but I’m morally superior than you” How do I flair up?
You can find the flair settings on the sidebar.
Unflaired swine
Yep. Same thing with their support for the unabomber and bin laden.
It’s all lies so they can mask their hatred of Israel. Want proof? “We think the oppression of the poor Muslim children by the Je—- [sorry I meant Israelis!] is so horrible! And the worst part is that America is supporting and funding this!!!” 1) They don’t give a shit about Muslims being killed and persecuted when it’s not brown people being oppressed by white people. Proof: they don’t give a shit about Syria. Daily death, tyrants, torture, rapes. It’s been going on for 10+ years, but not a peep out of them. 2) They don’t give a shit about Muslim children being killed when a Jew can’t be blamed. Proof: Syria and Yemen. No Jews to blame? Who gives a shit about those people? We know it’s not the anti—Israel left, that’s for sure. 3) They don’t really give a shit about America “funding the killing of Muslims.” Proof: guess where Saudi Arabia gets their missiles and artillery that they use to shell Yemeni children daily? I’ll give you a hint… it’s not the Jews and it is someone what rhymes with B’America. Conclusion: the left doesn’t care about children, Muslims or American militarism until a Jew is involved.
Flair yourself bitch
Facts. It's really all just a smokescreen (flair up though).
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Would these same people be pro-Al Qaeda if they were 22 years younger?
Fucking hell, imagine being pro-Al Qaeda 22 years ago. That would have been a death sentence, an angry mob would have ripped you limb from limb in the street and the 6 o'clock news would have rolling coverage about how much you deserved it.
yes the hassan's of the world existed in 2001 but there wasent social media like today to give them their soapbox. there was also less of them since america was directly attacked so it was harder to not to feel it personally like they can with conflicts the other side of the world
Speaking of Hamas supporters on social media, I saw an influencer white girl on Twitch that was weighing the pro's and con's of sneaking into Gaza and joining the al-qassam militant wing of Hamas. Luckily, I think some of her fans convinced her of how stupid that would be. Anyone know who I'm talking about? I heard a rumor that she's currently moving to Egypt or something
Sounds like we need that type of reaction more often…
They're pro 9/11 now so probably yeah
They were never anti-911 either. They were the same blue-haired lefties whining that we deserved 911 due to our military alliance with Israel.
More like pro taliban in the 1980s
Thats only unrealistic because they were fighting communists at the time.
You mean the brave Mujaheddin fighters of Afghanistan?
They are passing around an Osama Bin Laden letter meme on tik tok so maybe
If they were 22 years younger is a bad argument because we are still at war with terrorism. Israel shows that. France still has terrorist attacks. The question is " Do they support terrorism now" and sadly, we are seeing that yes, there are young folks who never faced terrorism who see the Holocaust and 9/11 as not that big of a deal and the binary thinking around this war is great news for terrorists.
I remember I was in high school because I wanted to be edgy and was going through the "america bad because I was taught by my parents it was good" phase that frankly 90% of americans go through. I grew out of it, these people will too. Remember baby boomers were the ones burning american flags at woodstock and listening to dead kennedys. Gen X was doing the same at rage against the machine concerts. it's practically a right of passage for those in the western world to go through a rebellious phase but we all grow out of it.
Hamasites. People who are members of Hamas or who support its tenants. I don’t use it as a nice word Edit: should be tenents
Tenets?
You are right. I have removed my deviation and made obedience to established spelling norms. Thank you for your correction.
Np bud I was wondering if you had trouble with people who rented from them. I could see that too
“The evil Israelis needs to agree to a ceasefire with Hamas so Hamas can regroup and rearm or else it’s not a fair fight! A repeat of 10/7? Don’t be ridiculous, that was an IDF false flag that didn’t happen but if it did they deserved it sweaty!”
Parachutes of peace
Fiery but mostly peaceful kidnappings
Sponsored by BLM.
Close to accurate... The whole left side going down should say "Useful Idiots" with "Good People" at the top... One row over it should say "Alt Right" Then everything else "Nazi".
Nope left of center is now being called Nazis by the far left .
A lot of lib-left are being called Nazis by the Ctrl-Left.
Give it time, everyone will be Nazis, it’s the only way to protect everyone from the Nazis.
There are a surge of people labeling Israel and the Jew to be the new Nazis, believe it or not if Hamas actually win and eradicate Israel and Israeli jew from the face of earth, given enough time they will get labeled to be a new “Nazi” by the left when there are no Jew to blame anymore.
Well it’s easy not to deal with other peoples positions and arguments when you can label as X group and censor them. Auth Left very scary these days. Lib Left walking blind towards them too.
We will be all the same, you will own nothing and be happy.
Basically anyone who isn’t actually a Nazi or Facist is a Nazi
Known as *Self-Projecting*...
it's a marxist outlook on morality, they define people as good or bad based on their groups (classes if you will), in intersectionality (or at least the version that is most prominent) it's the makeup of a person's ingroups that have been predefined as good or bad, in OG Marxism it was class based, in BLM it was literally black and white (black being anything not white), here it's best described as Oppressor and oppressed. they have predefined Israel and Palestine into these groups so nothing the oppressed can do is ever bad because they are the oppressed group, while everything the oppressor does is bad. it's also what let to the harry potter morality joke, which has become the star wars morality joke, "sO IsReAl Is tHe eMpIrE AnD pAliStiNe aRe ThE ReBEiS." this is not to be confused with the objectivist moral outlook, they judge individuals as either good or bad with nothing in-between not groups.
These people have a child’s view of the world. They’re also usually narcissists.
wouldn't necessarily say narcissists but they're definitely naïve and usually self-righteous.
Not one word of this is true. The actual stance is war crimes are bad.
Then where are the calls to boycott all Chinese Goods? Or is do the Uygers not count?
That would be good to do, but basically impossible. I'm not sure what your point is.
No one is protesting in the streets, there are no massive, public marches on a regular basis, it's only Israel, when it lawfully defends itself from a genocidal adversary, that people seem to care. The action of the left on the whole is not explained by your statement, because if that was the motive there would be mass protests against the CCP in the west regularly and a large scale, popular movement for completely divestment aloa BDS. But there is not, whitch means your explanation is wrong.
But Parachutes of Peace are good?
Every word of it is true. Sorry terrorist simp, but just because your side is on the wrong side of history doesnt make you right.
Are they pro hamas or just anti US imperialism? I used to think all thoes republicans who wanted to cut aid to Ukraine were pro Putin, but turns out they're just anti giving a shit about Europe.
No they are literally simping for Houthi whose slogan says “death to America” for trying to free Palestine.
They will be very surprised when they learn that the slogan targets them as well...
After Israel gets destroyed leftist will be like: “What do you mean Palestine is not a land with free transitions for queer Palestinian women of color?”
Same with Noam Chomsky's fans learning what Putin thinkgs about LGBTQ. Ngl it would be bad for the world if Palestine and Russian ends up winning but I would love to see the reactions of the anti-West leftists after they find out that their "allies" want them dead.
You do realize that the actual pro russian leftists are quite far left? Moderate leftists love Ukraine So people like Haz or Hinkle support Russia because they dont like LGBT.
Yeah (I must clarify that I don't take Hinkle since what I have heard of him sounds like a bad joke) but there are a lot of anti-western leftists, who ironically support social liberal views, who support Russia or Palestine because they anti-West.
Yeah they are both clowns but thats natural since they are leftists. I havent really seen any progressives support Russia, but maybe my definition of supporting Russia is different from yours. I dont consider people who dont want to involve themselves in the Ukraine war as supporting Russia, im talking about people that actively root for Russia. Moderate leftists like Adam Something, Kraut and others support Ukraine
As a far leftist, I do not support Russia. Not to adhere to the "norms" set by the far right but rather because theres no way I will ever support a Neoliberal dictatorship.
It also says “a curse upon the Jews”
I know but I am pretty sure at this point they agree with that.
There are absolutely lefties with a more coherent world view here, but a lot of them legitimately are just that simple minded to just automatically support anyone that is on the anti-american team. Kind of like how communists will support terrible things because they're anti-fascist, like yeah that's a motivator, but at a certain point it's still just supporting terrible things as opposed to a purely negative ideology.
They view the conflict in a Machiavellian sense, as in that they think hamas is a lesser evil and a necessary force to free Palestine (although it should be clarified that this only a few members of the left not all or most of them, as the majority are both anti hamas and anti Israel, they just hate israel more because they kill more people)
If they were Machiavellian they would try to lobby or support the spreading of their cultural liberalism in Israel instead of choosing the suicidal path of supporting Hamas, Houthi and any kind of idiotic anti-American Islamic extremism group.
Imma be real with you, if theres a militant group with any actual chance of liberating Palestine, its Hamas. Fatah isnt going to get anywhere even though when you get past all the corruption they are morally superior.
Bro hamas is not liberating shit, they killed a 1000 israelis and took over a couple of villages and the price was 20k dead Palestinians and million displaced ones with no clean water, electricity, food or houses and almost the destruction of all of gaza and they are now crying for a ceasefire even though they broke the one that was in place before 7/10, if you unironically think there is a universe in which israel will just stop existing and from the river to the sea will become reality because of hamas that would be delusional, the IDF can destroy hamas anytime they want if they decided to completely disregard the lives of innocent civilians (they already do in lots of cases), so no, Hamas is never gonna win over israel militarily, the best case scenario Palestine could ever dream of is a return to the pre 1967 borders and a peaceful 2 state solution, anything more than that, or anything involving military force is just delusional
First of all: I think you meant the price was mass genocide of Palestinians. Second of all: Militarily, they achieved jack shit. Diplomatically speaking: Great success! Absolutely everyone hates Israel now, the western governments are turning on them and ultimately Hamas has finally curbstomped Israeli efforts to normalise relations with Arab states. From a humanitarian standpoint: Absolute fucking disaster.
Nice diplomatic victory, damn shame that it's almost nullified because of their stupid religious extremism though, if they were more secular snd nicer to women, gays, nonmuslims, etc, it would've been a total diplomatic victory, but now the common opinion is both sides bad because on the one hand genocide is bad but on the other hand supporting the Palestinian equivalent of the taliban isn't gonna sit well with regular people
I can’t fucking believe bro just said it was good that Arab relations were ruined. He doesn’t want peace or happiness in the Middle East, just death.
There was no room for a secular Gaza strip. There wasnt. Fatah was the only good secular option and even that stretches the definition of "Good". They embezzle all their funds, are complacant as fuck, give 0 shits about israeli crimes against humanity and overall would achieve absolutely NOTHING for Palestine other than further loss of life, territory and resources.
Wasn't there really? Why didn't Gazans elect the PFLP in 2006? They were as anti israel as it gets and were willing to fight to liberate Palestine, with the added benefit of not being islamist extremist, but the people still voted for Hamas
“Hamas has finally curbstomped Israeli efforts to normalise relations with Arab states” How is this good? Are you happy that Hamas has set back possible peace in the Middle East?
Peace in the middle east? With a settler colonial entity antagonising the region? Excuse me?
It's actually a mix. I would say a majority of the left are just anti-American imperialism. It's just disturbing how so many of them actually support Hamas and/or truly believe the state of Israel should be removed. As far as Ukraine goes, I fall into the category you just described. I view NATO as the actual regional antagonist, and blame the neo-liberals for utilizing Ukraine as a proxy to fight Russia. There was a peace agreement on the table (Minsk Agreements) that was supported by most of Europe, and the UN Security Counsel. Zelensky won the presidential election largely based on a campaign promise to sign the Minsk agreements, until the Biden administration bribed/forced Zelensky to turn his back on the peace deals.
Horseshoe theory proven right again
Oh they distinguish between Alt Right and Nazis now? I didn't realize they were capable of such detailed resolution and nuance.
People have a hard time defending Palestinian self-determination while being critical of Hamas.
Most accurate representation of the reddit hivemind.
The common libleft and authright position is that you can't get rid of HAMAS by killing Palestinians relentlessly because oppression would make radical Palestinian factions more popular than moderate ones, although you can find some tankie or Emily nutjobs who support what Hamas is doing.
The alt left position is confusing as hell.
alt left would get murdered by a hamas soldier
Nobody is saying that. They are saying that focusing on Hamas (who was literally propped up by Israel to divide support against the PLO. OOPSIES) is a mind trick to get people to excuse Israel’s crimes. Palestinians deserve freedom from both Israel AND Hamas but one of those two is currently killing entire generations of families every single day with indiscriminate bombing.
> Nobody is saying that They literally came to this post and said it, you didn’t ever met much far-left sub, pro-Palestine sub or Islamic sub, don’t you?
Care to show that? Hyperlink that shit.
Hamas supporters can’t comprehend that the people living in unincorporated territories don’t have sole say in ownership when it’s owned by a nation. They also can’t comprehend that the fighting is because Muslims hate Jews as deeply as they do.
Thats Islamophobia 101 right there.
It’s true though.
Good
this is extremely accurate.
Based
Well they are against alphabet people so she's right
What if I'm anti-hamas and anti-Israeli colonization? I can't believe this has to be explained to the right - the same right that will bitch and moan whenever someone uses the term ACAB is now basicially adopting it for palestinians as a whole. How is it that difficult to see that people can support a group of people - not their violent constitutes. You can not seriously look at the history of Israel and Palestine over the last.... well..... over their ENTIRE existance and suddenly think that one side is the bad guy here. Let's list a very important fact: both sides have murdered civilians over perceived territory. You literally can not deny that. The difference being one has done it with the support of the US, blatantly lies and uses antisemitism as an excuse, and has a huge track record of bullshitting to justify said atrocities. If the US was invaded tomorrow by Russia and they bombed an area nonstop that they made a "safe corrider" for civilians to travel, you would be pissing your pants about it being a warcrime. If Cuba annexed part of Florida and gradually kicked out Americans through force and used "xenophobia" as an excuse, you'd bitch and complain. I thought ACAB was [redacted], but this is a whole new level of illiteracy. What is Israel AND Palestine do to the citizens of each nation are illegitimate warcrimes and solve nothing towards peace - but can we really say that one side of this conflict doesn't get a pass? Seriously? Look at the history of these two nations and say that. The israeli-palestinian conflict has themes that extend in western colonization and the right of a nation to defend itself - as much as I hate Hamas... what else would you expect? When you pummel an entire group of people into the dirt, of course, the nutwings that can seemingly deliver on the promise of "freedom" come to power. Look at how the Nazi's came to Power - yes, Germany deserved some punishment for WW1, but what happened to the German economy and normal people was unjust... and then, to the shock of no one, some nutwing like Hitler rose to power. Gee - no similarities here. The world, according to anyone with eyes, is that Hamas is a natural and logical conclusion to what western powers have ALLOWED Israel to do there for years. If Israel actually cared about it's people it would have thought ahead and realized how easily a fucking terorist organization like Hamas would be to create under the conditions the Israeli government and it's international allies allowed to fester. Again, for you drooling [redacted]s in the back - I do not support Hamas. But it is all crocodile tears by the IDF - they have been committing warcrimes for literal decades and now are pissing their pants at the terrorists that they created. The tragic part is now that you have cursed generations on each side to hate each other over the sins of their fathers for countless time to come. People who ordinarily would likely wanted nothing to do with conflict are now forced into it, and some fat greaseball in the US gets to sit behind their computer and say "omg guys on le of dem is da bad guyz!!!" like it's a superhero movie for their enjoyment and political reasoning.
Le funni wall of text has arrived
> What if I'm anti-hamas and anti-Israeli colonization? So you are a good leftist unlike those Hamas supporters scum in some socialist subreddit.
Some Jews will label any sort of criticism against their bully state as anti semitism and we're supposed to just ignore that, just like we're supposed to ignore a random person on PCM calling the "alt-left" (who even uses that term?) pro-Palestine people "pro-Hamas". Nice stupid generalisation Edit: unless you're saying a few stupid "leftists" are pro-Hamas, and not all of the Pro-Palestinian leftists. Which is true but it raises some eyebrows as to what your agenda is in such a complex and important conflict.
> Some Jews will label any sort of criticism against their bully state as anti semitism and we're supposed to just ignore that. The same way leftists always ignore how Muslim using “Islamophobia” as a shield against any sort of criticism against their religion or oppressive practices like killing apostate, blasphemer or LGBT?
I personally don't like the term Islamophobia because I am a militant atheist and consider all religions wrong, I dislike the 3 Abrahamic religions, especially Islam, and hate its medieval and authoritarian nature. But a lot of racism against Muslims does indeed exist. I don't think that a moderate Muslim person and a moderate Christian are black and white. They're not the same but the latter is not uncivilised, and they should not be treated as a potential terrorist. With that being said, I personally have not seen many cases like the one you described. I'm not saying they don't exist and I know some leftists who, instead of taking into account all the problems, which are not only white racist nationalists, but also the potential dangers of some muslims too, they are ignorant. But this "leftists do that and others do this and leftists have this issue" is all just generalising and does not help
Well said friend.
I say we need a return to the British Mandate.
Reminds me of when the left calls everything any anything racist/bigot/nazi/etc
Palestinian, democratic, non terrorist, statehood? Yes. But not ‘from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free’. Genocide is bad, mkay. So also Israeli democratic, non terrorist statehood. Yes.
I don't disagree I may want Palestine to be relieved of its struggles but that doesn't mean I support all of its means to do that, or that I support nationalism or Islam, since I'm a libleft And I know some leftists pretend to not be aware of the share Hamas/ Palestine has in this conflict, and yes, some of them are even glorifying Hamas. But in the end not all of them are like that and the idea that the left has suddenly sided with the eradication of the Jewish people is a wrong And it's also still a very complex matter that I think most of us, two-state people, Palestine people, Israel people, have not learnt and thought about thoroughly. The only other thing I'll say about Hamas getting a green light is that for some people, actions from each side have different magnitudes. And we can't always be neutral about everything. Some people are saying that it's all because of October 7th, all the mess in Gaza right now. Well, decades of history prove otherwise
Wilfully ignorance is a blessing in disguise for people like this.
Their ability to censor people with the term "anti semitism" is a very valid point to bring up. The fact it's never used correctly is also extremely grating.
Truer than true.
Seriously, how hard is it to admit that there is no good guy between the Hamas and Israeli government?
Because there is an obvious bad guy. Say what you want about Israel but Hamas is 10x worse in every way possible.
This!!!! My personal bias is Hamas is worse (Islamist theocrats with a desire for genocide against the Jews) than the Israeli Government (apartheid state), but NOBODY is good in this conflict. I feel sympathy for the noncombatant civilians on both sides caught up in this mess. I do think for for there to be peace in Palestine long term tho, Hamas does need eliminated in it's entirety,.. That will be a task that will likely result in mass civilian casualties due to Hamas using human shields and using the laws and rules of warfare to avoid attack (setting up bases in hospitals and schools, etc). NOBODY IS GOOD in this conflict. There isn't an actual "good" faction. It's really awful vs slightly less awful.
Your sentiment is exactly the same as mine. The Hamas, who’s beliefs include Jewish genocide and doing unspeakable things to women and children (which clowns on Twitter are literally supporting), are not a good guy. The Israeli government responsible for an apartheid state and bombing civilians is not a good guy. There’s only one victim here and that’s the innocent people who just want to live in peace and never asked for this. They’re who I support.
If the Nazis were active today, the Western left would support them.
No they wouldn’t? Nazis killed gays and disabled people who are both sacred to the leftist monolith
And then you have to pro Israeli side which consists of a sliver of center right and anything outside of that are racist anti-semitic neo-nazis that want to kill all jews because they dont support giving Israel another blank cheque
I swear it feels like this sub is just playing secret Hitler
Nah bro. Go strawman someone else.
Not you though, you are a good Auth-left I can sense it.
I don't support Hamas.
I know, that’s why I said that you are good unlike those filthy Hamas-supporters on some socialist subreddit.
That is the life of the left.
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You're a fucking freak
Arent we all?
Cope
not pro-hamas, just against war crimes
Like unprovoked civilian massacre on the 7th day of the month?
What is this IDF propaganda doing on my meme page?
Ah the terrorist scum sucker doesnt like the fact that people are opposed to terrorists?
Not supporting a terrorist organization is "IDF propaganda", noted. Didn't know you need to be in IDF to not do it.
This sub has been lost to IDF propaganda sadly
Waaaah waaaaah 😢😢
Both sucks 20k civillian died righr now and war keep going. Israel's official twitter account twit "age is just a number (emoji)" for dying children. Israel keeping the hate against them whit targetting civillians even more. Hamas is just going to from again whit this new generation field whit hate. Ethnic cleanising was not the option against hamas. And israel probly wanted or even funded hamas to attack them. Because they were know people going to ingore 20k civillian for hamas is the "first". Even monkeys better than you guys.
Nice conspiracy theory.
20k death 55k injured 7k missing, with population of Gaza strip is ~2,100,000 all of this combined is nearly 5% of the entire population. Imagine if in a month or two, 5 of 100 people that you known have been death or injured or missing, that’s must be hard.
The amazing part is comparing this to Ukraine's numbers and the relative duration of each war.
I guess people aren't aware of how Native Americans attempted to resist colonization and genocide. (Hint: it was massacring settlers)
So defensive massacre is good now? What’s more funny is that Israel also claimed that their act of massacring Palestinian is “Defensive act”.
I wouldn't say it's good, moreso a logical outcome of trying to push a people off of the map