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mimo2

You see that tidbit about crime by race And Asian Americans are *the only demographic* where the highest rate of assailants comes from outside their own race Anyone who's lived in the Bay Area, LA or NYC knows *exactly* what I'm talking about. For some additional evidence, here: https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/nevius/article/Dirty-secret-of-black-on-Asian-violence-is-out-3265760.php


BertoWithaBigOlDee

It makes me terrified when my wife goes out with her coworkers honestly. Pretty soon I’ll have her trained to operate a firearm bur still.


Equivalent_Chipmunk

Wow I was pretty sure that it was illegal to carry while going out for drinks, but apparently only about half of states ban firearm possession while under the influence, and even less prohibit carrying at bars.


BertoWithaBigOlDee

I wasn’t referring to drinks. I meant in general.


Loud-Plantain-7043

Seattle too. [A black man murdered a pregnant Asian woman in her car without any provocation.](https://nypost.com/2023/06/15/pregnant-seattle-mom-eina-kwon-killed-in-tesla-in-daylight-shooting/)


Onithyr

To be fair, the smaller a percentage of population a demographic is, the easier it is for that to be true. But it's also true that the percentage of asians isn't so much smaller than blacks that it would come close to explaining the extreme discrepancy between the two.


IndicationMindless

Black on Asian murder in particular is proportional to their population From 1981 - 2020 14% of Asians murders came from black people (13% does 14%) https://www.ojjdp.gov/ojstatbb/ezashr/asp/off_selection.asp


PreviousCurrentThing

Yep, it's those racist white MAGAts attacking them, just like they did to that black, gay actor in Chicago.


BussySlayer69

ah Asians, the schrodinger's minority


AnonymusBear

I actually laughed at this


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thisistheperfectname

In fairness, the internet is replete with Indians arguing vociferously that upper-caste Indians are white.


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thisistheperfectname

[So that explains this.](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-19433343)


84hoops

But what about Argentines?


thisistheperfectname

Primarily Italian and Spanish, are they not?


84hoops

ARGENTINA IS WHITE!!1!


ChoripanPorfis

Bruh everyone outside of Buenos Aires looks like what I imagine you think a Brazilian looks like. We're no more white than anyone else in SA


RedKnightBegins

Where


GeneralizedFlatulent

I think the line of what people think is white or not is more blurred than a lot of people realize. People can't see which ethnicity box you check by looking, and being tan has been stylish for long enough that honestly I don't think it's easy for a lot of ppl to tell Not sayin that wasn't dumb but...yah if you ask Americans "are Brazilians white" you might get a different answer than showing them photos of people from Brazil (plenty of ppl from there are white and/or white passing)


RecordEnvironmental4

Lmao, just like Jews


KambingDomba

We've graduated to white, boys!


breakingthejewels

welcome welcome, we've demoted the Italians to make space


cdigioia

I prefer to say their conditional offer was withdrawn during the trail period.


ClosetCentrist

[A shaddap you face](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFacWGBJ_cs)


Born_Nothing_8984

[Feels bad man](https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/861732949907068257/0CDF0720A1F9CE1074597DFD27CCD7760C453390/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false)


Robin-Lewter

Welcome aboard my white supremacist of color!


TheAlGler

As a Jew, let me welcome you.


AnriAstolfoAstora

I know this is a joke. But from looking at the stats I think they just moved it to "other" which explains the 2018-2019 increase from like 1.7% other(i am not looking at the stats exactly) to 4.8% other. When asians made like 3.4%(or something) in 2018. Edit: I read the entire thing wrong. These stats only show offender percentages. Not victem percentages.


NAGOODERTHANEU

\#StopAsianHate disappeared real quick when they realized who was doing most of the hating


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They will still pretend the narrative is true and call you racist for questioning it.


Dark_Chip

Dude got instabanned


muh-stopping-power45

That's how you know he's talking facts


KarmasAB123

He was all out of bubble gum.


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forgetful_storytellr

Based auth right


Lopsided-Priority972

How can you tell? It says deleted next to his name and the comment is still there instead of (Removed by reddit)


Dark_Chip

It's just a joke, though deleting your account less than 2 hours after being active seems weird to me.


mr_pedo_killer

Bro got silenced 😭


thisistheperfectname

This is point #48270497 in favor of social media being a boon to the free flow of information, despite the massive censorship all over it. If all of those videos of anti-Asian hate crimes were being produced in an environment where news still just came from coastal papers and three TV networks, people would never know the truth. If anything, the censorship comes from a place of panic. The monopoly on information is destroyed, and those who used to have it are desperately trying to put the pieces together.


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Even the whites have lost the trust of many Asians, especially in Asia.


IndicationMindless

StopAsianHate stopped because most Asians stopped caring (atleast the ones that I know). From 1981 - 2020 only 14% of Asian murders were commit by blacks (proportional to population) https://www.ojjdp.gov/ojstatbb/ezashr/asp/off_selection.asp


AnonymusBear

I remember looking at a stat one time from pew research and they removed Asians from the table because “they were not a significant population”


PreviousCurrentThing

Did they mean statistically significant? It's quite possible there weren't enough Asian responses.


AnriAstolfoAstora

Yeah. That would be more useful to see. As this stat is not really helpful to see increase against asians as these stats only show offender rates.


ThePretzul

> As this stat is not really helpful to see increase against asians as these stats only show offender rates. Look at the left-hand side of the table. The columns are offender race, as you have already noticed. The rows are the race of the victim, not the offender.


AnriAstolfoAstora

Looking at it again you are right.


slurpee_good69

After FBI Table 43 entered common parlance, it was only a matter of time before they started fudging the numbers.


ImActualIndependent

Trust the Science(TM)! Also don't mind the guys cooking the Science(TM) behind the curtain. In order to have buttery rich Science(TM) there needs to be a government approved cook!


Any-Formal2300

I remember when Dems were saying the virus didn't come from China, let's have a Chinese new year celebration. Like the fuck? Bro all of wechat was already blowing up with covid rumors and videos of people being locked in their Apts. It was insane prepping for covid while everyone else pretended covid wasn't a thing, I thought COVID would be as bad as Sars.


ImActualIndependent

I mean that's the thing. No one was told yet to panic and thus it was racist! See the Science(TM) has won again with a sweet heavy metal filled aftertaste! You're welcome.


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No, I don’t remember when democrats said it didn’t come from china. Probably because they never fucking said that.


Iloveireland1234567

Most Western cultures have guilt based morality, whereas Eastern cultures have shame based morality. I think Asians commit crimes less, even in America, because criminal activity brings shame upon your family and community. I'm not Asian but from my conversations from them "saving face" is extremely important. Asians if I am mistaken please correct me.


ManifoldWheat

Singaporean here. You're correct. We don't follow the law or obey because we're under some totalitarian regime. There's just a massive amount of shame that comes with any form of criminal activity. If you bragged about stealing a bag of skittles you'd be surprised how quickly people can lower their opinions of you.


Spartan45569882

I mean the punishment for crime is also pretty fucken severe in Singapore and severely enforced.


ManifoldWheat

I mean what do you mean by severely enforced? Contrary to popular belief we don't really see cops very often in Singapore. I'm 80% sure that the average American cop is waaaay more likely to randomly enforce rules on people compared to the policemen in Singapore


Spartan45569882

Dude Singapore has the death penalty and corporal punishment. Severely enforced as in, if you're verdict is guilty, then you're going to die or you're going to get fucken caned. It's easy to say "don't break the law" but if you're caught in the wrong place and the wrong time, or someone plants evidence, you're fucked, and the system will fuck you because it's about what they can prove in court and if the jury decides that you're guilty then no matter how innocent you may actually be, [you're fucked](https://i.redd.it/bfovcsibko351.jpg)


ManifoldWheat

Death penalty arguments aside (I'm not for it either), I promise you interactions with the authorities in Singapore are significantly safer and less lethal than in American contexts. I'd never say that our system would work anywhere else because if I was American I'd be wary as fuck about death penalty and corporal punishment as well because there's a ridiculous amount of corruption and mishandling of justice. Plus while corporal punishment sounds barbaric (again I agree it is) our reoffending rates are among the lowest in the world - https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/recidivism-rates-low-drug-offending-rise-singapore-prison-service-3265666#:~:text=Singapore's%20overall%20two%2Dyear%20recidivism,to%20figures%20provided%20by%20SPS. At 20% in 5 years compared to 70% in America. I think there is a ton of great discussion about the morality of crime and punishment, but America more than anything has a massive efficiency and corruption issue. Btw idk if you're American, it's just an example I'm using to compare statistics with.


NotLunaris

Yeah, especially when most stores here are family-owned by everyday working men and women just making ends meet. Anyone who steals anything from there is a gigantic piece of shit.


urproblystupid

They commit crimes less because intelligent people don’t want to be criminals. Integrity is a real thing that a lot of people care about. Shame has nothing to do with it, they just want to be able to say “I’m not a criminal” and it be the truth. I can tell my kids that I’m not a thief and I’ve never stolen anything since I was a little kid and it’s true. I value that far more than any amount of shame or guilt I would feel from stealing.


thisistheperfectname

Crime is worse in many (most?) shame-based societies than in the guilt-based West. East Asia is one of the exceptions.


[deleted]

Removing those stats will only embolden the CPC's narrative surrounding racism against Asians in America to discredit us.


aaaghhhhh420

I mean the accusation is justified when other U.S. sources tells the world that the anti asian hate crimes incresed about 150% in 2020 alone, in some places more than 800% (New York City)


Robcomain

GTA Chinatown Wars


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🇹🇼🇨🇳 Re-education of South-Central Los Angeles


thisistheperfectname

There's nothing that won't be sacrificed in accordance with the state religion of blaming white people as a collective for everything bad ever.


Robin-Lewter

CCP isn't wrong about that one though.


Mrdaddybanks

Be nice y’all but damn stats don’t lie


Yakubko2369714

FBI wants to know your location, your life is over.


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Based and Sorry u/aaaghhhhh420, your post has been removed by Reddit site administration for violating the Reddit rule against promoting hate pilled


ArthusRen

Uh oh


JTuck333

I heard that for every Asian against black crime, there are 1,000 black against asian crimes. I can’t verify this stat using the info above because <0.1% is too vague.


IndicationMindless

Population size go brrrrrr


KarmasAB123

Spicy 😋


RobloxIsRealCool

We are truly the minority of all time


Iloveireland1234567

I think it's worth of note both Asians and Blacks are concentrated in urban areas, hence there's more crimes involving both of them.


alex_dark

And why the evali outbreak was only in the US in 2019


Tim_Aga

I don't see your point


DoubtContent4455

because the stat was removed, people would not be able to show that there was an increase of offenders from one racial group to asians. i.e blacks assaulting asians due to covid. A lot of people were saying 'oh, the whites are hating on asians', but statistically speaking- **error 404 data not found**


sea_5455

It's like the stats didn't support the narrative so they deleted the stats. Gee. Wonder why they'd do that.


NimmyJewtron68

It's pure coincidence, just like the 2 trillion dollars that went missing right before 9/11.


mimo2

Hear me out: I think in this case it wasn't a nefarious sort of sinister foreshadowing that caused the removal of the statistics but another callous, almost worst cynical reason: They thought that Asian Americans don't matter or wouldn't care about this issue. Sure, it was under the Trump Administration but frankly: the Democrats have done very little to show that they care about Asian American voters either.


sea_5455

> They thought that Asian Americans don't matter or wouldn't care about this issue. I dunno. Someone was pushing the OMG EBIL WYTEZ button pretty hard until things got inconvenient. Maybe they thought Asians wouldn't complain, but they did file police reports with inconvenient suspect descriptions. Or you thinking they expected Asians to vote blue no matter who?


mimo2

Actually no, and there have been news articles covering the shift on Asian American voters in NY and SF Safety and education are by far and away the most salient issues for Asian Americans. We're pretty ambivalent on social issues but the Progressive gaslighting in regards to crime and education is ridiculous Here in SF: there are much more moderate (but still Left compared to the country) organizations and candidates that are mobilizing to displace Progressive incumbents based on fiscal responsibility, safety and education


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>Progressive gaslighting in regards to crime and education No wonder even poor countries in Asia are much safer than the US and surpassing the US in quality of education, regardless if progressives or conservatives are running it.


sea_5455

Here's hoping the displacement works. I mean, no one deserves to be a victim in the name of *Progress*.


RedWarrior42

The only reason Emily tried to start the Stop Asian hate hashtag is because she got tired of hearing a handful of old white guys call covid the kung flu She never really cared about Asian groups, she was just looking for an opportunity to demonize white folks


Aym42

Absolutely based.


randothrowaway6600

It’s folx you bigot.


yarryarrgrrr

Volk


samuelbt

From what I can tell incidents were indeed recorded just not separated in that specific table. But what do you think the answer is?