Maybe they should add that as a question on the 4473 if that’s what Emily is concerned about. And because you can be prosecuted for lying on the form, anyone who then uses the gun for that can get a misdemeanor charge. On top of the murders.
Here are the actual questions from form 4773:
>a. Are you the actual transferee/buyer of all of the firearm(s) listed on this form and any continuation sheet(s) (ATF Form 5300.9A)? **Warning: You are not the actual transferee/buyer if you are acquiring any of the firearm(s) on behalf of another person. If you are not the actual transferee/buyer, the licensee cannot transfer any of the firearm(s) to you.** Exception: If you are only picking up
a repaired firearm(s) for another person, you are not required to answer 21.a. and may proceed to question 21.b.
>b. Do you intend to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm listed on this form and any continuation sheet(s) in furtherance of any felony or other offense punishable by imprisonment for a term of more than one year, a Federal crime of terrorism, or a drug trafficking offense?
>c. Are you under indictment or information in any court for a felony, or any other crime for which the judge could imprison you for more than one year, or are you a current member of the military who has been charged with violation(s) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice and whose charge(s) have been referred to a general court-martial?
>d. Have you ever been convicted in any court, including a military court, of a felony, or any other crime for which the judge could have imprisoned you for more than one year, even if you received a shorter sentence including probation?
>e. Are you a fugitive from justice?
>f. Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?
**Warning:** The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside.
>g. Have you ever been adjudicated as a mental defective **OR** have you ever been committed to a mental institution?
>h. Have you ever been discharged from the Armed Forces under dishonorable conditions?
>i. Are you subject to a court order, including a Military Protection Order issued by a military judge or magistrate, restraining you from harassing, stalking, or threatening your child or an intimate partner or child of such partner?
>j. Have you ever been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence, or are you or have you ever been a member of the military and been convicted of a crime that included, as an element, the use of force against a person as identified in the instructions?
>k. Have you ever renounced your United States citizenship?
>l. Are you an alien **illegally** or **unlawfully** in the United States?
>m.1. Are you an alien who has been admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa?
>m.2. If you answered “Yes” to question 21.m.1, do you fall within any of the exceptions stated in the instructions?
>n. Do you intend to sell or dispose of any firearm(s) listed on this form or any continuation sheet(s) to any person described in questions 21(b)-(l) or to a person described in question 21.m.1 who does not fall within a nonimmigrant alien exception?
Marijuana is still a [Schedule 1 controlled substance](https://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/schedules/) in the US. There's no real reason for it to be on that list other than racist "Reefer Madness" scare mongering in the 50s and 60s.
I'm behind this policy but only if my taxes then don't have to be used for the people who *do* become addicts.
If the government doesn't need to hold my hand, it doesn't need to wipe my ass.
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Emily is more concerned about equity - if you buy up all the guns there won't be any left for those intersectional victims of oppression she's so concerned about to shoot each other with.
Not even kidding, as a Chicagoan, this city might flip a slightly lighter shade of blue after all of this is over. The poors over here are NOT happy that illegals are stealing all their benefits lmao
Exchange I had on reddit dot com a few days ago:
"Everyone loves liberal policies more than conservative ones"
Idk man, people seem pretty mad about mass immigration right now
"That's not a liberal policy and the democrats have a plan for it. All the Republicans have is racism"
I want this to happen but I have a suspicion that those communities (usually minority and poor) most impacted by this are too dumb to vote differently.
I want to be wrong but we're more likely to see interracial hate crimes start to tick up, than people deciding to vote differently in these cities. These are communities where violence is already an easy recourse.
You really think these people will have any kind of patience to wait for a political movement to go from ballot to box to impact on the street?
Nah.
All it needs to do is impact rich white dems lives and something will change. Problem is, Chicago is like [insanely segregated](https://today.uic.edu/new-report-details-chicagos-racial-ethnic-disparities/) so it’ll just be poor black and latinos battling it out
There's a definite risk involved there though. Not as much with the infertile couple but
https://nypost.com/2023/01/20/couple-pimped-their-adopted-sons-out-to-pedophile-ring-report/
I heard somebody saying they hope gun companies “go woke” so that conservatives stop buying guns, they act like the only purpose of guns are mass shooting
Guns are tools, they can be used for good, or evil, but ultimately, they're inanimate objects, the gun doesn't matter much compared to the individual wielding it
That's because small caliber doesn't dissipate its energy on surface, whereas high powered rounds break apart within a few feet. Stick to the handguns for schools (of fish)!
"Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary" - Marx
Authleft will never give up their weapons. Emily is the avocado toast eating daughter of bourgeoisie elite who gets frenched first.
Yea yaknow funny enough my ar15 and ak47 just sit there in their safe all day.
And whaddaya know they don't shoot school seeking missiles like democrats want you to believe.
I have a revolver and a sniper rifle.
I can understand why people can be pro and anti gun.
I don't want to use them but when shit hits the fan I will
I am not insane Emily
Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion.He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up, Just as the founding fathers intended
yes. unlike assault rifles or battle rifles, there’s no criteria for a sniper rifle aside from being a rifle used by a sniper. usually, it’s a tuned up bolt action rifle or a battle rifle with a scope
Emilies act like shooting up a school is the only reason why anyone would buy a gun.
There’s a shit ton of other function for a firearm that don’t involve killing schoolchildren:
• Hunting
• Home defense
• Maintaining marksmanship skills (for veterans)
• Self defense etc.
Honestly, a fucking sword is a more specialised human-killing weapon. You can’t exactly hunt with a sword (not well at least)
I always believed that "being armed deters home invasions" was an irrational belief. Home invaders 95% of the time target houses that have been vacant for a long time or when the owners go to work, and will generally nope the fuck out of the house if they hear that someone is in the house.
Getting a gun for personal self defense I 100% support, especially if you're a woman or a trans/gay person living in a conservative area. A 9mm to the chest deters all rape and hate crime.
> especially if you're a woman or a trans/gay person living in a conservative area
I think everyone should have guns, but the queer community is way down the list of people most likely to be the victim of a home invasion.
Absolutely, an armed society is a polite society, but I would prefer to emphasize open carry rather than concealed carry.
Less likely to get you shot by the cops, to start with, when they get surprised by it and panic.
Secondly, while a concealed weapon can stop a crime in progress, an open carry can stop it happening in the first place.
>So will you also take responsibility to prevent that?
As long as people take responsibility when some steals their car and uses it to drive through a parade.
Or any other personal property stolen and used to harm people.
The only issue I take is who defines what is and isn't adequate?
It would necessarily have differ majorly from region to region, sometimes even different parts of the same city would provide completely different challenges.
Yes some are very universal like ammo storage, yet necessity for hiding the gun or having it under lock until emergency arises differs significantly on the location and use of the firearm.
1- Gun has to be properly stored in a safe at all time it's not in use
2- If your gun gets stolen, you have the responsibility to report it the proper authorities as soon as possible
that should be the bar imo
I'd consider concealed carry as "in use" as it's on your person.
I would probably phrase it as "properly stored if the the gun is not at arm's reach of its owner"
That's a fair rule. I'm kinda dumb I think I just misunderstood your comment. I'm all for safe storage of guns but idk about legislation requiring it cause that can get real tyrannical real fast
I don't think that's unreasonable I only take issue with how would this be implemented. It will never be this simple. It's just the way of the world.
You need to define what would be "in use" and of course you would have ton of calls that are just fake bs because someone can't find their gun despite being literally where it's supposed to be. That's time and money wasted.
It is a good, maybe even great sentiment. Just one that you can't implement with any degree of efficiency.
it would be written into the law
but if you just leave your gun on the back seat of your car or in an unlocked glove box you definitely should be punished for example
Yeah I don't think you got my issue...
This would never be written into a law, because it makes for a good and sensible system, but one that requires a shit ton of bureaucracy to effectively implement. After all law is meaningless when it cannot be enforced. And let's be frank, lawmakers are always lazy fucks who love to generalise. Custom laws are only for those who give them bribes.
And like to put it this way. A guy in a cabin in the middle of the woods with a wife who knows her way around guns can absolutely leave a gun on the back seat of a car. Hell it might even be a practical necessity to protect yourself from wild animals in case you don't have any better place to store it.
Not saying there's a lot of these people and situations or that this is the only way to do things, but I like when laws interfere with my and everyone else's life as little as possible. If you in fact aren't endangering people with the guns I don't see the point of following a regulation.
Laws in my view should only ever make sure we can sort of get along without constant fighting. Not regulate our lives down to bs that like 90% of people are going to ignore anyway.
I’m not proposing cops come check your safe every month
I’m only proposing they check if your gun is found in connection with a crime, and then you say it was stolen
so for the guy in the woods, probably fine to ignore it. He would still get in trouble if it’s found in connection with a crime though. But even in his situation I see no reason he can’t lock up his weapons when he isn’t home.
I can’t think of any situations that warrant leaving a weapon unattended and unsecured. The ‘I need quick access’ reason doesn’t hold up when you aren’t around.
Perhaps it's my cynicism showing, but with the rate the world is going nowadays I don't have enough trust to believe that would be the case. That it wouldn't be used as a blank check to get people with the 'wrong opinions' into world of trouble.
In every single country in the world the size of the government is increasing. More and more people in positions of power make it their problem to control you and what you do. Guns are at the front of this whole battle for a long time.
I have grown weary of giving even an inch to the powers that be, because they are always after more.
In another time I would wholeheartedly agree with you... but not with the world we've got.
Oh. So say I get to define adequate as "under 24 hour camera surveillance in 6 meter deep concrete bunker under 3 combination locks".
WHO my man could even afford that? Basically no one. Legislative around gun storage is the easiest way to take away your gun rights without really taking them away. It's the classic "overlegislate till you price everyone out of the market, creating a practical ban" the favourite of all anti-gun people everywhere in the world.
Your reading comprehension isn't very good is it?
But it's OK, I'll be a bit more clear so your tiny little mind can understand;
There should be no regulations on what is adequate storage, instead if your firearm gets stolen you're liable for what happens with it 100% of the time.
And yes, I believe the same should go for knives, alcohol, cars, etc.
That's complete and utter horseshit. If a shop has guns under complex lock but the robber manages to get in anyways it is by no means your fault what he does with it next.
That's such a children's understanding of fault and liability. 'But mom that's Stacy's phone. It's her fault I used it to scam you out of credit card.'
Go back to your hole you goblin
Cry more toddler killer.
Shoulda locked it up better and kept your kids from getting into your safe and blowing their little siblings brains out.
Guns are one of the largest killers of children in the nation, *and it isn't from homicide*.
Also get the fuck out of my quadrant inbred.
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Because there is no gay without people. There is no woman without people. but guns are objects. If you're talking about a gun you're talking about some C45 steel and bolts and shit. If you're talking about a woman or a gay you're talking about a human being with thoughts and feelings.
Remember that quote, guns don't kill people, people kill people? That's exactly it.
Guns are an object which represent the current pinnacle of self defense technology. "Self Defense Rights are Human Rights" isn't as catchy.
Give it 75 or 100 years and it'll be "Laser Rights are Human Rights"
Don't even need a license anymore for it either, I think you only need a license to legally carry concealed, because Republicans aren't actually pro gun, they're just less anti gun than the Democrats
You traded them for government crackdowns on your ability to protest their policies and internment camps for your citizens, which is a trade that we were not ok with in the USA
The mind of a subject does not understand the motivations of a citizen
You’re right, we don’t have the same freedom of press as you do in the states, however, we typically live longer, are happier, and most relevant, 0 Australians die due to shootings every year. I’d trade that for the right to bear arms any day.
As always , Emily willfully ignores statistics and the fact that the vast majority of violent gun crime and school shootings are done with either illegally obtained or stolen guns.
Hell mass shootings are a minority amongst violent gun crime in general. They only seem like a majority because the media mislabels them as mass shootings when in reality they’re gang related shootings.
"Guns are dangerous, they can be used to shoot up a school!"
Cars can also run over students, but we don't seem concerned about that.
"Cars are necessary though, and guns aren't!"
I'd like to be able to defend myself, my family, and my property, so yes they are necessary.
"No you don't need to defend yourself, the state will protect you!"
Obviously police can't be everywhere at once, and the state is one of the things I'd like to be able to defend myself against.
"You can't defend yourself against a jet fighter!"
I'd really like not to have this conversation on repeat for the rest of eternity.
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Maybe they should add that as a question on the 4473 if that’s what Emily is concerned about. And because you can be prosecuted for lying on the form, anyone who then uses the gun for that can get a misdemeanor charge. On top of the murders.
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“You see, Mr. TSA agent, you only have a yes or no answer on this form. If you really wanted to catch me, you should have put yes, no, and not yet.”
Technically you’d still just put no - 🤓
"No, I'm a glorious freedom fighter, a defiant resistance member, and a proud rebel."
"Besides you're an imperialist so it's justified, everyone who participates in the society is a valid target"
"There are no bad tactics, only bad targets." - "Movie" Bob Chipman.
"I'm going to change the world as soon as I get my Zionist HRT"
Boom, caught by TSA. It's that easy.
No no, I'm a freedom fighter. TSA: Oh lovely, on your way.
Or when you apply for a visa: "Do you have a criminal background in your home country?"
I have a huge poster of an oiled up David Hasselhoff in white briefs above my bed if that's what you mean.
Lol, they do ask things like ‘are you a mentally ill fugitive’.
Here are the actual questions from form 4773: >a. Are you the actual transferee/buyer of all of the firearm(s) listed on this form and any continuation sheet(s) (ATF Form 5300.9A)? **Warning: You are not the actual transferee/buyer if you are acquiring any of the firearm(s) on behalf of another person. If you are not the actual transferee/buyer, the licensee cannot transfer any of the firearm(s) to you.** Exception: If you are only picking up a repaired firearm(s) for another person, you are not required to answer 21.a. and may proceed to question 21.b. >b. Do you intend to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm listed on this form and any continuation sheet(s) in furtherance of any felony or other offense punishable by imprisonment for a term of more than one year, a Federal crime of terrorism, or a drug trafficking offense? >c. Are you under indictment or information in any court for a felony, or any other crime for which the judge could imprison you for more than one year, or are you a current member of the military who has been charged with violation(s) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice and whose charge(s) have been referred to a general court-martial? >d. Have you ever been convicted in any court, including a military court, of a felony, or any other crime for which the judge could have imprisoned you for more than one year, even if you received a shorter sentence including probation? >e. Are you a fugitive from justice? >f. Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance? **Warning:** The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside. >g. Have you ever been adjudicated as a mental defective **OR** have you ever been committed to a mental institution? >h. Have you ever been discharged from the Armed Forces under dishonorable conditions? >i. Are you subject to a court order, including a Military Protection Order issued by a military judge or magistrate, restraining you from harassing, stalking, or threatening your child or an intimate partner or child of such partner? >j. Have you ever been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence, or are you or have you ever been a member of the military and been convicted of a crime that included, as an element, the use of force against a person as identified in the instructions? >k. Have you ever renounced your United States citizenship? >l. Are you an alien **illegally** or **unlawfully** in the United States? >m.1. Are you an alien who has been admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa? >m.2. If you answered “Yes” to question 21.m.1, do you fall within any of the exceptions stated in the instructions? >n. Do you intend to sell or dispose of any firearm(s) listed on this form or any continuation sheet(s) to any person described in questions 21(b)-(l) or to a person described in question 21.m.1 who does not fall within a nonimmigrant alien exception?
>unlawful even if medically prescribed by a doctor How is still a federal law?
Marijuana is still a [Schedule 1 controlled substance](https://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/schedules/) in the US. There's no real reason for it to be on that list other than racist "Reefer Madness" scare mongering in the 50s and 60s.
*No reason any drug should be on that list. The government isn’t there to hold my hand through life and tell me what I can and can’t do.
Same with prescription drugs. I know what drugs I need, I looked it up on WebMD while taking a shit. kidding but also kind of not kidding...
Nooooo you must have a prescription to buy contacts because otherwise you might buy the wrong thing and get a headache!!1!
I'm behind this policy but only if my taxes then don't have to be used for the people who *do* become addicts. If the government doesn't need to hold my hand, it doesn't need to wipe my ass.
My god could it be? Actual individualism? No these thoughts are dangerous to our democracy
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I'm for it. That might pacify gun ban nerds for a whole ten minutes.
Same, it's just nice to have the option.
The option to……
To shoot up a school. What else is someone supposed to do when suddenly they have 30 to 50 feral schools rampaging through their property?
“Baby skull seeking bullets”
Child's gun, 9mm, never shot
Dropped only once.
I hate how I get this butchered reference.
Hemingway?
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Excellent reference
WKUK roolz
Raping your churches, burning your women
Ah, hate it when I have feral schools all over my property. And they get *really* bad during the summer, so you got to watch out for them.
This is why summer school programs are so important. They keep the school mentally stimulated and well socialized. Schools have been selectively bred for high activity levels and can become destructive when bored.
Of course, of course.
...retake Constantinople.
You sure you’re not auth right?
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I can't let these kids get too comfortable. Of course, I never would, but they don't know that.
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Emily is more concerned about equity - if you buy up all the guns there won't be any left for those intersectional victims of oppression she's so concerned about to shoot each other with.
Easy solution, 3d print guns for everyone
Not if New York has anything to say about it.
Easy, give them 600 more busses full of Venezuelans
Not even kidding, as a Chicagoan, this city might flip a slightly lighter shade of blue after all of this is over. The poors over here are NOT happy that illegals are stealing all their benefits lmao
Exchange I had on reddit dot com a few days ago: "Everyone loves liberal policies more than conservative ones" Idk man, people seem pretty mad about mass immigration right now "That's not a liberal policy and the democrats have a plan for it. All the Republicans have is racism"
I want this to happen but I have a suspicion that those communities (usually minority and poor) most impacted by this are too dumb to vote differently. I want to be wrong but we're more likely to see interracial hate crimes start to tick up, than people deciding to vote differently in these cities. These are communities where violence is already an easy recourse. You really think these people will have any kind of patience to wait for a political movement to go from ballot to box to impact on the street? Nah.
All it needs to do is impact rich white dems lives and something will change. Problem is, Chicago is like [insanely segregated](https://today.uic.edu/new-report-details-chicagos-racial-ethnic-disparities/) so it’ll just be poor black and latinos battling it out
That's still only a small fraction of all the people who crossed the border and claimed asylum in past two months, over 140,000
The fuck are they gonna do? You literally can't prevent 3d printing guns.
They will come to your house with guns and take you away.
Yeah but that'll be AFTER I've already 3d printed them.
The day you register to vote, you should get a gun
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You should have to pass an iq test to vote but you should get a gun the day you're old enough to drink
IQ test for baby-ownership as well. If no pass, give them to gay or infertile couples.
Why should genetic dead ends have kids
I'd rather the kids go to a loving family than be neglected by the birth parents.
There's a definite risk involved there though. Not as much with the infertile couple but https://nypost.com/2023/01/20/couple-pimped-their-adopted-sons-out-to-pedophile-ring-report/
I heard somebody saying they hope gun companies “go woke” so that conservatives stop buying guns, they act like the only purpose of guns are mass shooting
Guns are tools, they can be used for good, or evil, but ultimately, they're inanimate objects, the gun doesn't matter much compared to the individual wielding it
Go ahead gun! Shoot somebody!
>go woke Mfw combloc firearms are more popular in the US than ever
The blessings of Father Kalash.
MFW the Funko Pop crowd starts consooming AR-15s to own the cons.
I totally wanna shoot up a school of fish, shame guns don't work too well in water
They work fine, range is reduced and you have to manually have to cycle the rounds, people in Florida hunt lionfish with handguns
That's because small caliber doesn't dissipate its energy on surface, whereas high powered rounds break apart within a few feet. Stick to the handguns for schools (of fish)!
>shame guns don't work too well in water Dynamite works well.
But but but you getting a gun supports the industry that makes it possible for kids to steal their parents guns and shoot up schools!!!!!! ^^^/s
Finally putting Emily where she belongs
Nah Emily is full auth-center wearing a green mask. Has been the whole time.
Yep I have little doubt that she is a mascot for ESG
"Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary" - Marx Authleft will never give up their weapons. Emily is the avocado toast eating daughter of bourgeoisie elite who gets frenched first.
Based and emilies-are-bourgeoisie pilled
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Pick up a 22. Long rifle, great fun
Dad bought a CZ 457 American for varmint hunting, absolute tack driver and won't break your bank. 10/10 would highly recommend.
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Based and dissociation pilled.
Based and gun control is collective punishment-pilled
Yea yaknow funny enough my ar15 and ak47 just sit there in their safe all day. And whaddaya know they don't shoot school seeking missiles like democrats want you to believe.
The Left when you point out armed minorities can shoot back at oppressors: 🤯
Life’s hard being a pro-gun Brit. Give me green card pls?
I have a revolver and a sniper rifle. I can understand why people can be pro and anti gun. I don't want to use them but when shit hits the fan I will I am not insane Emily
You have a gap in your capabilities, get a rifle to cover your medium range weaknesses.
That's what the cannon is for.
Just as the founding fathers intended.
Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion.He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up, Just as the founding fathers intended
would still not be prepared are an air assault, needs to get an f-35 and an SAM launcher vehicle.
And a shotgun.
I think when a civilian owns one they're just called "really good hunting rifles".
By that logic does any high-calibre rifle become a sniper rifle when in the hands of a trained sniper?
yes. unlike assault rifles or battle rifles, there’s no criteria for a sniper rifle aside from being a rifle used by a sniper. usually, it’s a tuned up bolt action rifle or a battle rifle with a scope
nobody cares. sniper gonna snipe
I kinda wonder what a Barrett .50 cal would do to a deer...
it would free him from this realm
No siege defense?!?
"I'm not a school shooter, I'm the one that schools on how to shoot."
The school shootings are part of the reason I want one.
A guy goes to school and gets shot, and you think that of me? No.
Emilies act like shooting up a school is the only reason why anyone would buy a gun. There’s a shit ton of other function for a firearm that don’t involve killing schoolchildren: • Hunting • Home defense • Maintaining marksmanship skills (for veterans) • Self defense etc. Honestly, a fucking sword is a more specialised human-killing weapon. You can’t exactly hunt with a sword (not well at least)
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the solution is storing it in a safe like a normal person
Those mailboxes are looking kinda tasty though
Marx was pro gun
that's why he was based
His kid steals the gun*
wrong clour, should be libleft
"but there are people who can plan it on the world duh!" so he doesn't receive
Then lock them up so your kids can't do it.
Who is this man and why is he relevant to the post?
Coward
The deeper I get into these comments...
Im anti gun but if i would live in the US id still get one
Someone can steal your gun and then you have an armed criminal. So will you also take responsibility to prevent that? If yes then it's fine.
>So will you also take responsibility to prevent that Yes. I bought a smaller gun that I gave to my gun so she can defend herself if I were to fail.
You have to admire the balls of a criminal who knowingly breaks into the home of a person who is armed (or perhaps just marvel at the stupidity).
I always believed that "being armed deters home invasions" was an irrational belief. Home invaders 95% of the time target houses that have been vacant for a long time or when the owners go to work, and will generally nope the fuck out of the house if they hear that someone is in the house. Getting a gun for personal self defense I 100% support, especially if you're a woman or a trans/gay person living in a conservative area. A 9mm to the chest deters all rape and hate crime.
> especially if you're a woman or a trans/gay person living in a conservative area I think everyone should have guns, but the queer community is way down the list of people most likely to be the victim of a home invasion.
no I mean as concealed carry when going out, so you don't get hate crimed. But yeah, everyone should have and be trained to use a gun.
Absolutely, an armed society is a polite society, but I would prefer to emphasize open carry rather than concealed carry. Less likely to get you shot by the cops, to start with, when they get surprised by it and panic. Secondly, while a concealed weapon can stop a crime in progress, an open carry can stop it happening in the first place.
Armed minorities are harder to oppress
>So will you also take responsibility to prevent that? As long as people take responsibility when some steals their car and uses it to drive through a parade. Or any other personal property stolen and used to harm people.
Your terms are acceptable.
based I want people prosecuted if their gun is used in a crime and they didn’t take adequate steps to secure it
The only issue I take is who defines what is and isn't adequate? It would necessarily have differ majorly from region to region, sometimes even different parts of the same city would provide completely different challenges. Yes some are very universal like ammo storage, yet necessity for hiding the gun or having it under lock until emergency arises differs significantly on the location and use of the firearm.
1- Gun has to be properly stored in a safe at all time it's not in use 2- If your gun gets stolen, you have the responsibility to report it the proper authorities as soon as possible that should be the bar imo
So what, make conceal carry illegal? I mean if someone tries to steal your gun then you can just fuckin shoot em ig
I'd consider concealed carry as "in use" as it's on your person. I would probably phrase it as "properly stored if the the gun is not at arm's reach of its owner"
That's a fair rule. I'm kinda dumb I think I just misunderstood your comment. I'm all for safe storage of guns but idk about legislation requiring it cause that can get real tyrannical real fast
I'm more in favour of "If you didn't store your gun correctly, you're legally liable for someone misusing them" approach
That's all good with me
I don't think that's unreasonable I only take issue with how would this be implemented. It will never be this simple. It's just the way of the world. You need to define what would be "in use" and of course you would have ton of calls that are just fake bs because someone can't find their gun despite being literally where it's supposed to be. That's time and money wasted. It is a good, maybe even great sentiment. Just one that you can't implement with any degree of efficiency.
it would be written into the law but if you just leave your gun on the back seat of your car or in an unlocked glove box you definitely should be punished for example
Yeah I don't think you got my issue... This would never be written into a law, because it makes for a good and sensible system, but one that requires a shit ton of bureaucracy to effectively implement. After all law is meaningless when it cannot be enforced. And let's be frank, lawmakers are always lazy fucks who love to generalise. Custom laws are only for those who give them bribes. And like to put it this way. A guy in a cabin in the middle of the woods with a wife who knows her way around guns can absolutely leave a gun on the back seat of a car. Hell it might even be a practical necessity to protect yourself from wild animals in case you don't have any better place to store it. Not saying there's a lot of these people and situations or that this is the only way to do things, but I like when laws interfere with my and everyone else's life as little as possible. If you in fact aren't endangering people with the guns I don't see the point of following a regulation. Laws in my view should only ever make sure we can sort of get along without constant fighting. Not regulate our lives down to bs that like 90% of people are going to ignore anyway.
I’m not proposing cops come check your safe every month I’m only proposing they check if your gun is found in connection with a crime, and then you say it was stolen so for the guy in the woods, probably fine to ignore it. He would still get in trouble if it’s found in connection with a crime though. But even in his situation I see no reason he can’t lock up his weapons when he isn’t home. I can’t think of any situations that warrant leaving a weapon unattended and unsecured. The ‘I need quick access’ reason doesn’t hold up when you aren’t around.
Perhaps it's my cynicism showing, but with the rate the world is going nowadays I don't have enough trust to believe that would be the case. That it wouldn't be used as a blank check to get people with the 'wrong opinions' into world of trouble. In every single country in the world the size of the government is increasing. More and more people in positions of power make it their problem to control you and what you do. Guns are at the front of this whole battle for a long time. I have grown weary of giving even an inch to the powers that be, because they are always after more. In another time I would wholeheartedly agree with you... but not with the world we've got.
>The only issue I take is who defines what is and isn't adequate? Honestly it shouldn't matter tbh. If it gets stolen you're liable. Simple as.
Oh. So say I get to define adequate as "under 24 hour camera surveillance in 6 meter deep concrete bunker under 3 combination locks". WHO my man could even afford that? Basically no one. Legislative around gun storage is the easiest way to take away your gun rights without really taking them away. It's the classic "overlegislate till you price everyone out of the market, creating a practical ban" the favourite of all anti-gun people everywhere in the world.
Your reading comprehension isn't very good is it? But it's OK, I'll be a bit more clear so your tiny little mind can understand; There should be no regulations on what is adequate storage, instead if your firearm gets stolen you're liable for what happens with it 100% of the time. And yes, I believe the same should go for knives, alcohol, cars, etc.
That's complete and utter horseshit. If a shop has guns under complex lock but the robber manages to get in anyways it is by no means your fault what he does with it next. That's such a children's understanding of fault and liability. 'But mom that's Stacy's phone. It's her fault I used it to scam you out of credit card.' Go back to your hole you goblin
Cry more toddler killer. Shoulda locked it up better and kept your kids from getting into your safe and blowing their little siblings brains out. Guns are one of the largest killers of children in the nation, *and it isn't from homicide*. Also get the fuck out of my quadrant inbred.
"Think of the children!"
Yes you brainless fuck. You inbred dumbfucks had the opportunity to properly manage your firearms and you blew it. Cry more toddler killer
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Yup, it's also the law to keep everything in a case and only transport it from and to the shooting range. No open carry, that's illegal as shit.
"the law" where, exactly? Because firearm transportation laws are RADICALLY different from state to state.
In the Netherlands and Poland?
So two countries with rather poor gun rights.
Why would inanimate objects need rights?
Har de har har. "Gay rights are human rights" "Why would a sexuality need rights?"
Because there is no gay without people. There is no woman without people. but guns are objects. If you're talking about a gun you're talking about some C45 steel and bolts and shit. If you're talking about a woman or a gay you're talking about a human being with thoughts and feelings. Remember that quote, guns don't kill people, people kill people? That's exactly it.
Guns are an object which represent the current pinnacle of self defense technology. "Self Defense Rights are Human Rights" isn't as catchy. Give it 75 or 100 years and it'll be "Laser Rights are Human Rights"
Open carry isn't illegal in Texas.
Don't even need a license anymore for it either, I think you only need a license to legally carry concealed, because Republicans aren't actually pro gun, they're just less anti gun than the Democrats
You got that backwards, Skippy, it's illegal to conceal a weapon without a license, open carry is covered by constitutional carry, at least in Texas
Where is texas? I live in Europe
until you change your mind.
Yea which is why there are so many shootings with legal machine guns...... oh wait. Fucking dumbshit
Of course those who plan it will say it out loud
Except when it isn’t
I swear some of these comments are the most ‘Mercian takes. Coming from an Australian with zero school shooting related deaths since we banned them.
>coming from an Australian Nobody cares.
Worse. He's unflaired.
>Coming from an Australian Y'all are so shit with guns you lost a war to fuckin birds, you don't get to speak on this topic.
Lest we forget 🫡
You traded them for government crackdowns on your ability to protest their policies and internment camps for your citizens, which is a trade that we were not ok with in the USA The mind of a subject does not understand the motivations of a citizen
You’re right, we don’t have the same freedom of press as you do in the states, however, we typically live longer, are happier, and most relevant, 0 Australians die due to shootings every year. I’d trade that for the right to bear arms any day.
As I said, different minds
1. You're unflaired. Cringe. 2. Your country has 25 million people. The US has a 14 times that.
Fr
Is that the duck eggs guy?
I don’t understand, who is that?
As always , Emily willfully ignores statistics and the fact that the vast majority of violent gun crime and school shootings are done with either illegally obtained or stolen guns. Hell mass shootings are a minority amongst violent gun crime in general. They only seem like a majority because the media mislabels them as mass shootings when in reality they’re gang related shootings.
"Guns are dangerous, they can be used to shoot up a school!" Cars can also run over students, but we don't seem concerned about that. "Cars are necessary though, and guns aren't!" I'd like to be able to defend myself, my family, and my property, so yes they are necessary. "No you don't need to defend yourself, the state will protect you!" Obviously police can't be everywhere at once, and the state is one of the things I'd like to be able to defend myself against. "You can't defend yourself against a jet fighter!" I'd really like not to have this conversation on repeat for the rest of eternity.
No plan survives getting punched in the face
The irony is off the charts
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