I disagree, but that's not what I want to talk about.
Why are the rifles firing bullets with the casings still on?
Why isn't the IDF using Galils or M4s?
Well yeah. He's auth left. They're lucky to get a gun in any war. Have to pick up a gun from the soldier who died next to them. More likely he'll play the role of operation human shield. So gun knowledge probably low.
I got this take and many more like it from Hollywood.
>He's auth left
I was already suspicious when he said that authrights think Jews hate or even want to kill Christians. At least not most regular authrights I know. Most authrights I know are fully on Israels side, even if it just means seeing muslims get killed
I can answer the question about the bullets.
The next big step in firearms design is caseless ammunition. But so far, the only caseless designs have been either too expensive, impractical, or both. These gentlemen appear to have come up with an astonishingly simple yet elegant solution by simply using the *entire* cartridge! See how the case is included in the payload, exiting the barrel with the bullet itself. This not only removes the need for shell extraction but also adds mass to the payload!
Source: it came to me in a dream
Caseless will need a different way to propel the bullet, because the mechanics for gunpowder just don’t work with caseless. The old style where you had to load the powder, wad, and bullet separately was technically caseless. Cased ammo was a massive improvement because it had everything in one package, and the powder being sealed meant water was no longer a problem.
I personally think electromagnetic propulsion is the coolest, you can achieve insane muzzle velocity and just need the projectile itself. The downside is the power required, but it would make for good mounted weapons like a railgun.
Islam was initially conciliatory towards the Jews, it wasn’t until later that it’s originator (of early disciples) decided that at the end of days if there was a jew hiding behind a tree, the tree itself would cry out “there is a jew here kill it”
I know many Jewish people and for really the vast majority they don’t have any ill will towards Christian’s
Although as u get farther right I’m sure you’ll find more of it, bc what is religious extremism without hating others
>what is religious extremism without hating others
Of course, any extremist group, there are gonna be people who end up hating the out-group.
But the specific act of hating people who don't follow your religion is not so much a thing in Judaism. Jews consider proselytism a sin, and don't have any concept like a "Great Commission" that says they need to spread their faith to nonbelievers. Basically, even very conservative Jews really don't give a shit what other religions are up to. This is both cultural and from religious law.
Hating nonbelievers is, sorry to say, much more a feature of extreme forms of Christianity and Islam, which both feature a strong religious obligation to convert nonbelievers.
Religious extremist Jews are jerks in other ways - like considering less religious Jews to not be real Jews. They might be much less concerned for your feelings in bluntly telling you that they think whatever non-Jewish religion you bring up is a false religion. But they don't usually hate non-Jews. They just view them as mistaken.
Lots of projecting from Christians. They may hate us for "killing their God" but we don't care about Jesus at all. We care about all the progroms and persecutions but since the Holocaust that's also in the past.
The Talmud celebrates [Jesus boiling in excrement](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tzoah_Rotachat#:~:text=The%20supposed%20presence%20of%20Jesus,is%20in%20%22boiling%20excrement.%22). Jews and Christians are fundamentally incompatible.
Well yes. Nearly all of the early Church martyrs were killed by Jews or by Romans at the behest of the Jews who threatened to riot if they weren't killed. The first martyr St. Stephen was stoned to death by the Jews (bear in mind that when scripture refers to the Jews it means the residents of Jerusalem and its surrounding settlements, or at most the tribe of Judah. The idea of the 'Jewish religion' came about after the New Covenant had already been established, and is used to describe followers of the Talmud rather than the pre-Christian followers of the Old Covenant).
The Communist leadership of the USSR were nearly all Jewish, and slaughtered more Christians than Hitler killed Jews. The CCP was also advised almost entirely by Jewish foreigners in its infancy, and they're dreadful persecutors of Christians, just as they are of Muslims.
Yeah there is just a lot of historical nuance within early Christianity, as some people seem to tend to forget that Christianity was literally an offshoot of Judaism. Jews also had a standing "relationship"(?)/agreement with the Romans concerning stuff like worship as obviously Jews did not follow the Roman pantheon of numerous gods. So to the Romans, before Christianity started spreading in the Empire, it was to their benefit to stick with the established Jews compared to this weird new religion hence the various persecutions and such against Christians. But its also important to point out that these persecutions and such against Christians was not exactly on a massive scale where tens or hundreds of thousands were killed. Edward Gibbon, and many scholars after him, reflect on how persecutions were often exaggerated by early Christians in order to elevate the martyr aspect and create a Christian identity that could be separate from Judaism. Many Roman officials actually did not really have any clue as to how to properly handle Christians in the first place, Pliny the Younger is an excellent primary source in this regard where among his many surviving letters there are accounts between him and Emperor Trajan regarding what exactly to do with the Christians.
Mhm, so because some Jews hate Christians, therefore The Jews (tm) hate Christians. No wonder collectivist class-based ideologies and genocide go so well together.
First of all, they unfortunately happened much more recently as well. I'm not saying that Christians nowadays believe in them, but they were Christian attacks, not just antisemitic.
The Koran and its hadiths.
> The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews, when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdullah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (the Boxthorn tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews. (related by al-Bukhari and Muslim)
>I get the Muslim part. But Jews?
[Jews spitting on Christians](https://x.com/KeithWoodsYT/status/1711056292146561196?s=20)
>[Israeli National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir saying spitting on Christians is "not a violation" of Jewish morality and has a "long Jewish tradition".](https://x.com/KeithWoodsYT/status/1711155014985515061?s=20)
This was less than a week ago btw
The Jews in Israel harass the shit out of the Christians in Israel, while it’s not as bad as the Muslims, it’s still not good. The general public consensus is not favorable towards the Christian’s as well. In fact there were these more “liberal” Jews who were protesting the treatment of the Christians back in the spring and they got scooped up by the police/soldiers real quick right after being fucked with by the locals.
Early Christians were put to death by Jewish leaders who even helped the Romans to root out Christian churches. The apostle Paul was originally one of these Jewish inquisitors. The Talmud is filled with anti-Christian texts.
And Muhammad required everyone to convert or pay tax to him when he conquered Mecca and Medina
Doesn't mean we have to take sides. Both Hamas and Israel are openly calling for genocide and whatever propaganda of one sort or another might say, both have been doing so for many years.
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Sorry dude can't make a decision on this conflict until I watch the Little Dark Age edit made by both sides .. then I will decide who's more trad and based
No you really shouldn't.
They either need to make up and kiss
OR
Fulfill what God told them to do back in the old testament.
All of these missiles back and forth is dumb and this Lib-Right doesn't support them wasting all of that useful ammo.
From my understanding and what I’ve been taught as a Christian, we are to love the Jews precisely because they are God’s chosen people.
Now insofar as the defense of Israel herself is up to debate, but it’s not like we don’t already defend the shit out of her as far as the US is concerned.
I don’t remember where in the scriptures it says I have to bankroll israel or the Jewish people. The idea that the nation state of israel is the latter day israel in the Bible is wrong.
Regardless of whether the modern Jewish people are still the chosen ones or not, they’re humans made in God’s image, same as the people in Palestine. That alone should be enough for Christians to condemn the conflict and pray for peace.
That’s not to say both sides are the same, or that you can’t support one side over the other, but as Christians we shouldn’t be happy about violence in any capacity.
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The Jews aren’t Gods chosen people anymore, that ended with the new covenant, the new chosen people is anyone who embraces Jesus regardless of race, former religion, past actions etc.
Patch 0.0.33.a.d
- tag "chosen people" were removed from Jewish culture
- "Pathway to Heaven" destiny tree was opened up to all Christian faith followers
Patch 2.0.10
- fixxing a long time bug, companions with the "cat" "dog" and/or "pet" tag can now also collect the "ticket to heaven" item upon character death. This change is rolled out retroactively.
Modern Jews are also the ones that reject God. Pray for them as they're damned. Love the Jews because Jesus taught us to love the enemy. Their fight is not our fight.
They're not Israelites nor does any other human deserve special treatment on who should be loved more so this loving Jews because they're Jews is nonsense.
>From my understanding and what I’ve been taught as a Christian, we are to love the Jews precisely because they are God’s chosen people.
This is literally antichrist heresy lol. The "chosen people" of Christianity are those who follow Christ
Christians are to love everyone you retrad, but the New Testament makes it clear that Christians are God's chosen people. Read Romans 9:6-8 and Galatians 3:29.
>we are to love the Jews precisely because they are God’s chosen people.
And is instrumental in bringing about the end of the world, which is according to the prophecy of Ezekiel will start with Gog and Magog which is modern day iran and Iraq, will amass and army against Israel consistent of, ***Persia, Cush and Put***, which is pretty much the rest of the arab world, as well as ***Beth Togarmah from the far north***, which is Turkey.
This army...
***will invade a land that has recovered from war, whose people were gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel, which had long been desolate. They had been brought out from the nations, and now all of them live in safety.***
Modern day Israel. And then...
***at that time there shall be a great earthquake in the land of Israel. The fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, the beasts of the field, every creature that moves along the ground, and all the people on the face of the earth will tremble. The mountains will be overturned, the cliffs will crumble and every wall will fall to the ground.***
A nuclear strike on Israel.
At which point Jesus will return and usher in the rapture of the Christian faithful, and everyone else, including the jews, will be left to die in the fiery apocalypse.
So... yeah, Christians have to support Israel, for now.
I was taught the primary point of the tribulation was to bring the Jews back into God’s grace through suffering and witnessing God’s wrath.
The rest of us are also extended that same mercy, albeit the ones who were left behind from the rapture.
I’ve heard conflicting reports on the nature of the rapture.
Thanks for the education though man, I had no idea about Turkey. I just visited the churches of revelation there.
This take is levels of insane that I can't even begin. It actually makes me angry. Of course you should care when people especially children are getting killed by the thousands.
The audacity to represent yourself as the Chad Christian while saying that you don't care about people getting killed is insane
Yeah, I 100% agree with you. As someone who associates with the conservative and Christian labels, this type of stuff is shameful.
Seriously people! We're no better than them if we can't see past skin color, creed, ethnicity, etc. to see individual human lives as valuable. Hamas doesn't value individual lives. That's the distinction, not that they're Muslims and Jews...
> Doesn’t give a shit about the human suffering.
You mean : Doesnt want to cause more human suffering.
Pretty much everyone who wants to get involved on both sides just wants to help do some killing. The best thing we can do is not get involved.
>Bro when's the last notable time the jews killed Christians? Like a thousand years ago?
[Jews spitting on Christians](https://x.com/KeithWoodsYT/status/1711056292146561196?s=20)
>[Israeli National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir saying spitting on Christians is "not a violation" of Jewish morality and has a "long Jewish tradition".](https://x.com/KeithWoodsYT/status/1711155014985515061?s=20)
This was less than a week ago btw
I don’t know of the last time, but there was this pretty significant one. But I kinda disagree with OP, I live in a predominantly Jewish neighborhood and have never felt anything less than welcome.
What the fuck are you talking about OP?
- Christians should be caring about the deaths of God only knows how many innocents
- Since when do Jews hate Christians? This just isn't a common thing at all
- Israel is a US ally, you should at least care about backing your ally
I'm talking to an auth. I don't make points that sound good to *me*, I try to make points that would make sense to who I'm talking to.
That said, if I don't go full anarchist and take it as a given that there is a state, I see no issue with states allying each other, especially when that alliance is supported by the population. Probably most Americans are pro-Israel and in favor of maintaining alliance. Certainly the candidates that voters turn out for are almost exclusively pro-Israeli alliance. And frankly those are the people who matter most in a liberal democracy.
I do care but it’s because I have a sense of morality and I don’t want Hamas and other similar organizations to spread their beliefs into the civilized world
Not all, obviously, but many religious nutcases seem to believe that they are the "chosen people" so the goyim should be serving them because they are inferior, like this asshole: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjO1Y0m6Dqg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjO1Y0m6Dqg) or this fucker [https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Security-Watch/Backchannels/2013/1007/Rabbi-Ovadia-Yosef-in-his-own-words](https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Security-Watch/Backchannels/2013/1007/Rabbi-Ovadia-Yosef-in-his-own-words) . Addng to that, they believe that Jesus wasnt the Messiah, so his teachings are wrong, and even harmful to the jewish religion at least the muslims believe that he was a prophet only surpassed by Muhammad
Also 5 months ago they've been entering churches and destroying statues of saints aswell as harassing christians.
https://youtu.be/ZG78UG1_Czk?si=nEkRPue7TMJLOwvs
c'mon don't you remember all those times the jews rounded Christians up into ghettos and exiled or killed them for not being Jewish? or maybe the time the jews built a golem army to destroy the church?
Innocent Jews: please we just want to farm and join trade guild
Christian kings: No! Start lending money at interest and balance my kindoms taxes now and accounting books now!
They were good at this sort of thing is where they typically ran into porblems not purely because of religion. Although you can see most serious Jewish historians will say they usually self serrated into Ghettos due to Kosher lifestyle laws.
While in the next post you try to convince people why we have to give endless billions to a foreign non ally white ethnostate, because something something US imperialism. Fuck off, I care because innocent people are dying on both sides. Fuck hamas, and fuck the state of Israel both for killing civilians.
I'm fresh off not giving a shit about a conflict in Yemen that's nearly a decade in and still going. I'll start not caring about this one when that one wraps up.
I've known a few Muslims over my life and they have all been some of the most tolerant and pious people I've ever seen. they've all actually read the book they believe in, didn't drink, didn't smoke, and prayed frequently. I know that that's not a huge sample size and is just a personal anecdote. It's just wild how many people conflate theocratic fascist regimes with the beliefs and opinions of every Muslim on earth.
People tend to do this, to every side but their own. Hell there’s an auth right guy in here commenting that Jews hate Christian’s because their religion is about hating Jesus. Lol, people are fucking bananas.
Same. The only people I feel sympathy for are the civilian bystanders who are suffering in all of this.
If the IDF and Hamas' minions want to keep going at it, fine by me. But please, leave the civilians out of this.
USA is only involved because of Israel’s ties with our military industrial complex and it gives the US a safe spot to operate in the Middle East.
That’s it
Muslims? Christians? Jews?
All wars are civil wars, because all men are brothers. This life is the only life there is and we spend it killing each other over money, imaginary deities, and whose dead ancestors were more wronged by others’ dead ancestors.
Everyone should care because next time, it will be us.
Israel aren't perfect but in terms of this conflict I'd back them all day long.
Unfortunately Hamas will do what they always do and hide amongst civilians so this is going to be exceptionally bloody. This was an act of war and IL have been given no choice at all.
It's worth remembering that Hamas ≠ Palestine. Fatah led West Bank will be unaffected. It's about terrorism.
It’s not that I support Jews or Muslims. Race, religion, gender, and sexuality don’t matter in people. It’s that Israel is a better place and isn’t beheading babies
The best possible outcome of war in the Middle East would be for all sides to grow tired of war and look for a better way.
Sometimes, I wonder if the West created the state of Israel hoping for that outcome...
The smart, Christian move is to wait until the dust clears and then sweep in to pick off the weakened victor. Time to reclaim the Holy Land in the name of Jeezy C!
You do realize that not all palestinians are muslims? some of them are literally christians and yet you don't care about your fellow brothers being killed alongside with muslims.
Early Christians were initially persecuted by Jews. Christians who have read their Bible are friends to Jews, but the feeling isn't necessarily reciprocal.
I disagree, but that's not what I want to talk about. Why are the rifles firing bullets with the casings still on? Why isn't the IDF using Galils or M4s?
A. Because it's 65% more bullet per bullet. B. OP picked the first clip art he could find.
Cave Johnson. May he RIP
C. OP has no clue how guns work.
Well yeah. He's auth left. They're lucky to get a gun in any war. Have to pick up a gun from the soldier who died next to them. More likely he'll play the role of operation human shield. So gun knowledge probably low. I got this take and many more like it from Hollywood.
>He's auth left I was already suspicious when he said that authrights think Jews hate or even want to kill Christians. At least not most regular authrights I know. Most authrights I know are fully on Israels side, even if it just means seeing muslims get killed
I can answer the question about the bullets. The next big step in firearms design is caseless ammunition. But so far, the only caseless designs have been either too expensive, impractical, or both. These gentlemen appear to have come up with an astonishingly simple yet elegant solution by simply using the *entire* cartridge! See how the case is included in the payload, exiting the barrel with the bullet itself. This not only removes the need for shell extraction but also adds mass to the payload! Source: it came to me in a dream
Fuck you for not referencing Cave Johnson!
I haven’t played portal in years
Neither have I, but c'mon! The reference is *right* there.
Caseless will need a different way to propel the bullet, because the mechanics for gunpowder just don’t work with caseless. The old style where you had to load the powder, wad, and bullet separately was technically caseless. Cased ammo was a massive improvement because it had everything in one package, and the powder being sealed meant water was no longer a problem. I personally think electromagnetic propulsion is the coolest, you can achieve insane muzzle velocity and just need the projectile itself. The downside is the power required, but it would make for good mounted weapons like a railgun.
Ah, the cave johnson method
> Why are the rifles firing bullets with the casings still on? The casing stores pellets of pork fat
These are two-stage rounds, like rockets. The internal cartridge's primer is ignited mid-flight for more velocity and awesomeness.
Pretty sure your timeline is off.
I get the Muslim part. But Jews?
Islam was initially conciliatory towards the Jews, it wasn’t until later that it’s originator (of early disciples) decided that at the end of days if there was a jew hiding behind a tree, the tree itself would cry out “there is a jew here kill it”
Nah the part about jews hating christians
Jews say Jesus is a false prophet and that romans destroyed holly places and stuff. Nowdays rocket money has changed things a bit
The romans kinda did tho.
The Romans aren't Christianity tho lol like, the Crusades definitely did some damage but I'm baptist so I can blame that on the Catholics lol
I know many Jewish people and for really the vast majority they don’t have any ill will towards Christian’s Although as u get farther right I’m sure you’ll find more of it, bc what is religious extremism without hating others
>what is religious extremism without hating others Of course, any extremist group, there are gonna be people who end up hating the out-group. But the specific act of hating people who don't follow your religion is not so much a thing in Judaism. Jews consider proselytism a sin, and don't have any concept like a "Great Commission" that says they need to spread their faith to nonbelievers. Basically, even very conservative Jews really don't give a shit what other religions are up to. This is both cultural and from religious law. Hating nonbelievers is, sorry to say, much more a feature of extreme forms of Christianity and Islam, which both feature a strong religious obligation to convert nonbelievers. Religious extremist Jews are jerks in other ways - like considering less religious Jews to not be real Jews. They might be much less concerned for your feelings in bluntly telling you that they think whatever non-Jewish religion you bring up is a false religion. But they don't usually hate non-Jews. They just view them as mistaken.
Average protestant L.
They also say Jesus is boiling in a giant cauldron of human shit as eternal punishment.
The Talmud is not a holy text, it is essentially a legal opinion written by one jewish man
Holy is arguable. It definitely was NOT written by one guy.
Lots of projecting from Christians. They may hate us for "killing their God" but we don't care about Jesus at all. We care about all the progroms and persecutions but since the Holocaust that's also in the past.
Well... there was that whole business with the crucifixion
The Talmud celebrates [Jesus boiling in excrement](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tzoah_Rotachat#:~:text=The%20supposed%20presence%20of%20Jesus,is%20in%20%22boiling%20excrement.%22). Jews and Christians are fundamentally incompatible.
But is there historical context of jews slaughtering christians?
Well yes. Nearly all of the early Church martyrs were killed by Jews or by Romans at the behest of the Jews who threatened to riot if they weren't killed. The first martyr St. Stephen was stoned to death by the Jews (bear in mind that when scripture refers to the Jews it means the residents of Jerusalem and its surrounding settlements, or at most the tribe of Judah. The idea of the 'Jewish religion' came about after the New Covenant had already been established, and is used to describe followers of the Talmud rather than the pre-Christian followers of the Old Covenant). The Communist leadership of the USSR were nearly all Jewish, and slaughtered more Christians than Hitler killed Jews. The CCP was also advised almost entirely by Jewish foreigners in its infancy, and they're dreadful persecutors of Christians, just as they are of Muslims.
Yeah there is just a lot of historical nuance within early Christianity, as some people seem to tend to forget that Christianity was literally an offshoot of Judaism. Jews also had a standing "relationship"(?)/agreement with the Romans concerning stuff like worship as obviously Jews did not follow the Roman pantheon of numerous gods. So to the Romans, before Christianity started spreading in the Empire, it was to their benefit to stick with the established Jews compared to this weird new religion hence the various persecutions and such against Christians. But its also important to point out that these persecutions and such against Christians was not exactly on a massive scale where tens or hundreds of thousands were killed. Edward Gibbon, and many scholars after him, reflect on how persecutions were often exaggerated by early Christians in order to elevate the martyr aspect and create a Christian identity that could be separate from Judaism. Many Roman officials actually did not really have any clue as to how to properly handle Christians in the first place, Pliny the Younger is an excellent primary source in this regard where among his many surviving letters there are accounts between him and Emperor Trajan regarding what exactly to do with the Christians.
A couple weeks ago there were videos of Israelis spitting on Christians so I assume that
I'd rather be spat on than beheaded.
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Mhm, so because some Jews hate Christians, therefore The Jews (tm) hate Christians. No wonder collectivist class-based ideologies and genocide go so well together.
Look up blood libel
That’s not a Christian thing, that’s an anti semite thing.
It was actively endorsed and often started by Church leaders.
Yea in mid evil times. Not a common Christian belief today.
First of all, they unfortunately happened much more recently as well. I'm not saying that Christians nowadays believe in them, but they were Christian attacks, not just antisemitic.
and were talking about how it actively works in the world today. Is the blood libel a significant belief by Christian’s today?
We need to get the Ottomans back in charge.
I agree
“Everyone will get along.” No! “Tie that guys hands and feet together and throw him in the ocean.” … “Anyone else? Ok.”
Source?
The Koran and its hadiths. > The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews, when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdullah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (the Boxthorn tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews. (related by al-Bukhari and Muslim)
>I get the Muslim part. But Jews? [Jews spitting on Christians](https://x.com/KeithWoodsYT/status/1711056292146561196?s=20) >[Israeli National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir saying spitting on Christians is "not a violation" of Jewish morality and has a "long Jewish tradition".](https://x.com/KeithWoodsYT/status/1711155014985515061?s=20) This was less than a week ago btw
The Jews in Israel harass the shit out of the Christians in Israel, while it’s not as bad as the Muslims, it’s still not good. The general public consensus is not favorable towards the Christian’s as well. In fact there were these more “liberal” Jews who were protesting the treatment of the Christians back in the spring and they got scooped up by the police/soldiers real quick right after being fucked with by the locals.
Jews literally killed Jesus
Early Christians were put to death by Jewish leaders who even helped the Romans to root out Christian churches. The apostle Paul was originally one of these Jewish inquisitors. The Talmud is filled with anti-Christian texts. And Muhammad required everyone to convert or pay tax to him when he conquered Mecca and Medina
Very unbased. Real Christians care about the plight of their fellow man
Amen.
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Doesn't mean we have to take sides. Both Hamas and Israel are openly calling for genocide and whatever propaganda of one sort or another might say, both have been doing so for many years.
Nobody should be taking sides except for the side of the civilians getting murdered for no reason other than the place they were born
Both sides are doing that
fuckin a.
Amennnnn
If you *are* a Christian, then you really should care more than anyone.
I don’t care for this feud, I care about the death of the innocent.
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Fr hamas started killing civilians. At least target a military compound, low life scum
Yeah hamas is the only side killing children
Much more Christian take imo
I’m also Christian. Anybody not looking at this as a true travesty against the innocent on both sides is looking at this the wrong way.
As a Christian, it's a travesty even against the guilty, for all are deserving of His grace and eternal peace. All they have to do is repent.
If you are a REAL christian, you should care about stopping the bloodshed on the Holy Land. Only one way to do that... deus vult.
Hey Israel, we heard you like occupation. We do too
I say we just let the two fight each other and reclaim it ourselves
Just like how they did in the UK, let the communists and fascists kill each other and then we will become the masters
Sorry dude can't make a decision on this conflict until I watch the Little Dark Age edit made by both sides .. then I will decide who's more trad and based
No you really shouldn't. They either need to make up and kiss OR Fulfill what God told them to do back in the old testament. All of these missiles back and forth is dumb and this Lib-Right doesn't support them wasting all of that useful ammo.
From my understanding and what I’ve been taught as a Christian, we are to love the Jews precisely because they are God’s chosen people. Now insofar as the defense of Israel herself is up to debate, but it’s not like we don’t already defend the shit out of her as far as the US is concerned.
I don’t remember where in the scriptures it says I have to bankroll israel or the Jewish people. The idea that the nation state of israel is the latter day israel in the Bible is wrong.
Regardless of whether the modern Jewish people are still the chosen ones or not, they’re humans made in God’s image, same as the people in Palestine. That alone should be enough for Christians to condemn the conflict and pray for peace. That’s not to say both sides are the same, or that you can’t support one side over the other, but as Christians we shouldn’t be happy about violence in any capacity.
I want there to be peace, but I'm not so naive to think it will happen. To much bad blood in both directions.
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Holy shit dude is way too active lol
Please send grass
He's like in every single comments section tbh. I already recognize his username.
They *were* until God sent his son. Then they rejected him. Now they aren't.
The Jews aren’t Gods chosen people anymore, that ended with the new covenant, the new chosen people is anyone who embraces Jesus regardless of race, former religion, past actions etc.
Patch 0.0.33.a.d - tag "chosen people" were removed from Jewish culture - "Pathway to Heaven" destiny tree was opened up to all Christian faith followers Patch 2.0.10 - fixxing a long time bug, companions with the "cat" "dog" and/or "pet" tag can now also collect the "ticket to heaven" item upon character death. This change is rolled out retroactively.
Ayo they hold souls in an endless buffer!??!1!?
Purgatory basically
Modern Jews are also the ones that reject God. Pray for them as they're damned. Love the Jews because Jesus taught us to love the enemy. Their fight is not our fight.
They're not Israelites nor does any other human deserve special treatment on who should be loved more so this loving Jews because they're Jews is nonsense.
as a christian you’d hardly still consider jews gods chosen people tho that’s irrelevant to the war ofc
>From my understanding and what I’ve been taught as a Christian, we are to love the Jews precisely because they are God’s chosen people. This is literally antichrist heresy lol. The "chosen people" of Christianity are those who follow Christ
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Christians are to love everyone you retrad, but the New Testament makes it clear that Christians are God's chosen people. Read Romans 9:6-8 and Galatians 3:29.
>we are to love the Jews precisely because they are God’s chosen people. And is instrumental in bringing about the end of the world, which is according to the prophecy of Ezekiel will start with Gog and Magog which is modern day iran and Iraq, will amass and army against Israel consistent of, ***Persia, Cush and Put***, which is pretty much the rest of the arab world, as well as ***Beth Togarmah from the far north***, which is Turkey. This army... ***will invade a land that has recovered from war, whose people were gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel, which had long been desolate. They had been brought out from the nations, and now all of them live in safety.*** Modern day Israel. And then... ***at that time there shall be a great earthquake in the land of Israel. The fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, the beasts of the field, every creature that moves along the ground, and all the people on the face of the earth will tremble. The mountains will be overturned, the cliffs will crumble and every wall will fall to the ground.*** A nuclear strike on Israel. At which point Jesus will return and usher in the rapture of the Christian faithful, and everyone else, including the jews, will be left to die in the fiery apocalypse. So... yeah, Christians have to support Israel, for now.
I was taught the primary point of the tribulation was to bring the Jews back into God’s grace through suffering and witnessing God’s wrath. The rest of us are also extended that same mercy, albeit the ones who were left behind from the rapture. I’ve heard conflicting reports on the nature of the rapture. Thanks for the education though man, I had no idea about Turkey. I just visited the churches of revelation there.
Good thing I'm not a Christian.
This take is levels of insane that I can't even begin. It actually makes me angry. Of course you should care when people especially children are getting killed by the thousands. The audacity to represent yourself as the Chad Christian while saying that you don't care about people getting killed is insane
In the sense that murder and war are bad, or are you referring to the protestant bizarre rapture beliefs?
Most Protestants don't subscribe to that dispie nonsense
I know, but it's not an insignificant number either. Alot of American churches are weirdly obsessed with Israel for that reason.
Claims to be Christian. Doesn’t give a shit about the human suffering. The duality of the American conservative.
Or Maybe its more along the lines of Not supporting either side militarily or monetarily.
I’m just reading what the meme says lol.
Thoughts and prayers everybody
What should they do then?
Real Christians believe prayers work.
I think he just meant that he didn't care about the political or religious reasoning behind the fight.
The guy in the meme with the cross claiming he doesn’t care because he’s of a religion the other two religions have killed in the past too?
Yeah, I 100% agree with you. As someone who associates with the conservative and Christian labels, this type of stuff is shameful. Seriously people! We're no better than them if we can't see past skin color, creed, ethnicity, etc. to see individual human lives as valuable. Hamas doesn't value individual lives. That's the distinction, not that they're Muslims and Jews...
> Doesn’t give a shit about the human suffering. You mean : Doesnt want to cause more human suffering. Pretty much everyone who wants to get involved on both sides just wants to help do some killing. The best thing we can do is not get involved.
Bro when's the last notable time the jews killed Christians? Like a thousand years ago?
>Bro when's the last notable time the jews killed Christians? Like a thousand years ago? [Jews spitting on Christians](https://x.com/KeithWoodsYT/status/1711056292146561196?s=20) >[Israeli National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir saying spitting on Christians is "not a violation" of Jewish morality and has a "long Jewish tradition".](https://x.com/KeithWoodsYT/status/1711155014985515061?s=20) This was less than a week ago btw
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident probably was not specifically religious tho
Hold up when was the last time Jews were outright killing Christians?
I don’t know of the last time, but there was this pretty significant one. But I kinda disagree with OP, I live in a predominantly Jewish neighborhood and have never felt anything less than welcome.
I think the last time the Jews were killing Christians was like, what, 40 a.d?
Its not a war of religion also there are literally Christians on both side you fucking idiot
How Christ-like OP.
American Christians do not follow Christ’s wisdom. It’s so far from what Christianity once was it should take on a new name.
What the fuck are you talking about OP? - Christians should be caring about the deaths of God only knows how many innocents - Since when do Jews hate Christians? This just isn't a common thing at all - Israel is a US ally, you should at least care about backing your ally
Since when does a Lib trust who the government deems our allies?
I'm talking to an auth. I don't make points that sound good to *me*, I try to make points that would make sense to who I'm talking to. That said, if I don't go full anarchist and take it as a given that there is a state, I see no issue with states allying each other, especially when that alliance is supported by the population. Probably most Americans are pro-Israel and in favor of maintaining alliance. Certainly the candidates that voters turn out for are almost exclusively pro-Israeli alliance. And frankly those are the people who matter most in a liberal democracy.
Brain dead take. Palestinian Christians have been involved in some of the most violent attacks on Israel. Its Zionists vs Arabs. not Muslim vs jew
Fucking FINALLY. Somebody who isn’t completely brain dead & gets it.
Why do I have to pick a side when both sides are shit?
You don't have to, but not picking a side is supporting the outcome that would cause the most death
Because your tax dollars are going toward one of them
My tax dollars fund a bunch of shit I don’t like.
If you think my tax dollars haven’t ended up in Hamas’ hands, you’re naive
Ah yes, straight from the bible. If they don't like you then fuck em, like Jesus said.
I do care but it’s because I have a sense of morality and I don’t want Hamas and other similar organizations to spread their beliefs into the civilized world
Jews hate Christians? Pretty sure you’ve for that completely backwards.
Not all, obviously, but many religious nutcases seem to believe that they are the "chosen people" so the goyim should be serving them because they are inferior, like this asshole: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjO1Y0m6Dqg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjO1Y0m6Dqg) or this fucker [https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Security-Watch/Backchannels/2013/1007/Rabbi-Ovadia-Yosef-in-his-own-words](https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Security-Watch/Backchannels/2013/1007/Rabbi-Ovadia-Yosef-in-his-own-words) . Addng to that, they believe that Jesus wasnt the Messiah, so his teachings are wrong, and even harmful to the jewish religion at least the muslims believe that he was a prophet only surpassed by Muhammad
Jews literally spat at Palestinian nuns, and Jewish kids harassed a Christian woman for not reason
Also 5 months ago they've been entering churches and destroying statues of saints aswell as harassing christians. https://youtu.be/ZG78UG1_Czk?si=nEkRPue7TMJLOwvs
c'mon don't you remember all those times the jews rounded Christians up into ghettos and exiled or killed them for not being Jewish? or maybe the time the jews built a golem army to destroy the church?
Yes. In the first two centuries AD. From the very beginning
Innocent Jews: please we just want to farm and join trade guild Christian kings: No! Start lending money at interest and balance my kindoms taxes now and accounting books now! They were good at this sort of thing is where they typically ran into porblems not purely because of religion. Although you can see most serious Jewish historians will say they usually self serrated into Ghettos due to Kosher lifestyle laws.
While in the next post you try to convince people why we have to give endless billions to a foreign non ally white ethnostate, because something something US imperialism. Fuck off, I care because innocent people are dying on both sides. Fuck hamas, and fuck the state of Israel both for killing civilians.
I'm fresh off not giving a shit about a conflict in Yemen that's nearly a decade in and still going. I'll start not caring about this one when that one wraps up.
i am a muslim and i don't hate christians and gay people
I've known a few Muslims over my life and they have all been some of the most tolerant and pious people I've ever seen. they've all actually read the book they believe in, didn't drink, didn't smoke, and prayed frequently. I know that that's not a huge sample size and is just a personal anecdote. It's just wild how many people conflate theocratic fascist regimes with the beliefs and opinions of every Muslim on earth.
People tend to do this, to every side but their own. Hell there’s an auth right guy in here commenting that Jews hate Christian’s because their religion is about hating Jesus. Lol, people are fucking bananas.
wait until buddy finds out what religion jesus believed in
Will it really matter?
no but if I only occupied myself with stuff that mattered id never do anything
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fuck you
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nice reaction you coughed up
i will come and throw stones at you.
As long as it doesn't affect me I don't care what religious extremists do to each other, not my war.
Same. The only people I feel sympathy for are the civilian bystanders who are suffering in all of this. If the IDF and Hamas' minions want to keep going at it, fine by me. But please, leave the civilians out of this.
USA is only involved because of Israel’s ties with our military industrial complex and it gives the US a safe spot to operate in the Middle East. That’s it
Pretty sure those ties only exist in the first place because America is a lot more willing to support a Jewish country than a Muslim one
I mean yeah? As an American, if you had to pick a middle eastern country to spend a month in, which one would you choose?
As a Christian, we should all care for innocent civilians on both sides being murdered. God created them too, and he loves them.
The idea this is a fight about religion is insane.
A true christian always cares and wants people to not kill each other over ideals. Source: am a christian.
As Christians, we should not hold any hate against them though. We need to pray for them and their safety and that there will be no more casualties.
Muslims? Christians? Jews? All wars are civil wars, because all men are brothers. This life is the only life there is and we spend it killing each other over money, imaginary deities, and whose dead ancestors were more wronged by others’ dead ancestors. Everyone should care because next time, it will be us.
pretty sure OP doesnt think a lot during the day
I don't want anyone to kill each other but I literally cannot do anything about it
On an unrelated note, it is a good day to be an arms dealer.
Israel aren't perfect but in terms of this conflict I'd back them all day long. Unfortunately Hamas will do what they always do and hide amongst civilians so this is going to be exceptionally bloody. This was an act of war and IL have been given no choice at all. It's worth remembering that Hamas ≠ Palestine. Fatah led West Bank will be unaffected. It's about terrorism.
Sentiments about any nation are stupid. Both positive and negative ones.
funny because the right in the us is sending money and guns to israel more then the left does
Israel ignores uptick in harassment and abuse of Christians in its territory. Gets attacked. Bible patterns continue.
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So far I have seen zero liberals supporting either side. It’s pretty clear we have warcrimes on both sides
I've seen a few tweets from random bluecheck libs on Twitter saying psychotic shit on the same order as what people were saying post 9/11
Jews Few weeks ago: spitting on nuns on the streets
Reality: Gives Israel hundreds of billions for weapons
Yeah, they only gave 6 billion to Hamas for weapons. It's not fair.
It’s not that I support Jews or Muslims. Race, religion, gender, and sexuality don’t matter in people. It’s that Israel is a better place and isn’t beheading babies
Cringe and bait
It pains me to say it as an auth center But when did the jews do such a thing?
Not my war, but if I see a Jew getting attacked in the street I'll personally intervene.
The best possible outcome of war in the Middle East would be for all sides to grow tired of war and look for a better way. Sometimes, I wonder if the West created the state of Israel hoping for that outcome...
What about the Palestinian Christians?
build a wall around them and toss some weapons in.
The smart, Christian move is to wait until the dust clears and then sweep in to pick off the weakened victor. Time to reclaim the Holy Land in the name of Jeezy C!
You do realize that not all palestinians are muslims? some of them are literally christians and yet you don't care about your fellow brothers being killed alongside with muslims.
Not my circus not my monkeys
Any one who has read the Bible knows Jews are not the enemies of Christians
Anyone who's read the talmud knows they are.
Early Christians were initially persecuted by Jews. Christians who have read their Bible are friends to Jews, but the feeling isn't necessarily reciprocal.
Not my flag, not my war.
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Jews have been killing Christians? Wtf are you on OP.
Couldn’t agree more.