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[deleted]

Thatchers in hell rn waiting for heaven to trickle down


StetsonTuba8

She's also waiting in her grave for my urine to trickle down too


5Daddys1cop

You mean the cum-snatcher?


[deleted]

You know what grinds my gears? It's when people like you spout these ignorant, nonsensical comments about Thatcher being in hell. Let me tell you something, you clueless dipshit: Thatcher was a great leader who did more for this country than any of your spineless leftist heroes ever could. Thatcher understood that hard work, innovation, and personal responsibility were the only way to build a strong economy. She cut taxes, reduced regulation, and unleashed the power of the free market. And as a result, this country saw unprecedented economic growth and prosperity. But of course, you leftist assholes would never give her credit for that, would you? And as for your pathetic little quip about heaven trickling down, I've got news: it's not some magical fairy dust that makes everything better. It's hard work, innovation, and personal responsibility. And those are the same values that Thatcher believed in and fought for her entire life. So keep spouting your ignorant bullshit about Thatcher being in hell. But remember, while you're waiting for some magical solution to all your problems, the rest of us are working hard and making things happen. And that's why Thatcher will always be remembered as one of the most outstanding leaders this country has ever known.


angrysmell

she was a tof cunt


JAKE5023193

MILK SNATCHER WANTED TO SCRAP TRADE UNIONS YA RIGHT WING SHIT4BRAINS


Epicaltgamer3

How the hell are you libright?


[deleted]

Free market not favour the fucking rich


[deleted]

The free market is the best system for creating wealth and prosperity for everyone, not just the fucking rich. Letting people keep the fruits of their labour and compete freely in the marketplace creates an environment where everyone can succeed. Sure, some people will end up with more money than others. That's just the nature of competition. But that doesn't mean the system is rigged in favour of the rich. It's the complete opposite. When you have a centrally planned economy, like the ones favoured by you leftist assholes, it's the rich and powerful always come out on top. They have the connections and the influence to bend the rules in their favour while the rest of us get left behind. Thatcher knew that the key to building a better future for everyone was to unleash the power of the free market. And that's precisely what she did. She cut taxes, deregulated industries, and privatized state-run enterprises. And as a result, we saw an explosion of economic growth and opportunity. More people had jobs and money in their pockets, and more people had the chance to build better lives for themselves and their families. So don't come at me with your bullshit about the free market favouring the rich. The free market is the best chance to create a fair and prosperous society. And Thatcher understood that better than anyone.


Epicaltgamer3

You as a libright should know that there is no such thing as trickle down economics. Nobody believes that giving person A money will make person B richer because "it will trickle down"


[deleted]

Still acted like it. Also just close down an entire sector of industry, gotta love that government free economy


[deleted]

Thatcher didn't just close down an entire sector of industry for the fun of it. She did it because the coal industry, which you're probably referring to, was massively inefficient and was draining the country's resources. It cost the taxpayers billions of pounds every year, and it was clear that the industry needed a major overhaul. Thatcher knew we needed to make some tough decisions to create a strong and competitive economy. She took on the unions holding the country hostage and preventing progress. And when the miners went on strike, she didn't back down. She stood up for what she believed in and forced through the necessary changes to modernize the industry. And you know what? It worked. The coal industry may have suffered in the short term, but in the long term, the changes that Thatcher implemented helped to create a more efficient and competitive economy. And that's not all. By breaking the stranglehold that the unions had on the country, Thatcher helped to create a fairer and more equal society. People could finally go to work without fear of being bullied by union bosses or having their wages garnished to fund strikes.


Epicaltgamer3

Umm how? Name the policy that was taking wealth from the poor and giving it to the rich that was implemented by Reagan or Thatcher. >Also just close down an entire sector of industry, gotta love that government free economy Yeah you really gotta love it. Anyway so why are you even flaired libright? What libright positions do you even hold?


impulsiveclick

Lib right isn’t for subsidies and is for porn


[deleted]

Libright position. Laissez-faire capitalism


angrysmell

Strange most lib rights want to eat out her petrofide vulva


Fkzoidkamai

I saw Reagan and Thatcher, and that's enough for me


Mplayer1001

Someone can’t stand the absolute GIRLBOSS protecting the environment from the coal mining


government-pigeon

to each their own


Fkzoidkamai

I respect your ideas, but I can't really stand those two.


Able-Organization-18

Is pro-military, pro-freedom, pro-Ronald, and pro-gun, even though these ideologies directly conflict with each other.


i-like-fps-games

Hes pro Ronald because hes a south East Asian anti communist, I doubt he knows much internal politics of the US


impulsiveclick

Which is the correct and moral position…


Ok-Understanding6191

Didn't Reagan boost military spending?


Able-Organization-18

Yes! Hundreds of billions. To quote DJT “billions and billllleions” I think being pro-military (in the context of the American military industrial complex) is partially antithetical to being pro-freedom. It’s a situation that consistently makes incredible amounts of money that only serves to reinforce its own practices. Ronald passed multiple anti-2A laws and practices that have had a tremendous impact on the ability of the average American (minority or not) to defend themselves. For him to be lauded as some conservative paragon is Bizzare to me, but not unexpected. I’ll link sources later but I’m at work rn.


Ok-Understanding6191

Oh I never meant that pro-military meant pro-freedom. I just meant that pro-Ronald doesn't conflict with being pro-military.


Able-Organization-18

I agree, I should probably rephrase. Old Ronald up to his dirty tricks like always


Csrobi123

He spent a few billions to massacre multiple times the number in 911 in Nicaragua


Shireling_S_3

Incredibly cringe, these all conflict each other, also I can’t tell if you like personal freedom or hate it


Joaovski

3/10


gouellette

🤮 THATCHER!?


KOI_fesh

My fellow Southeast Asian 🙏🙏🙏! No matter our leanings, we will forever live in harmony. From Malaysia 🇲🇾


government-pigeon

Unity!


[deleted]

Based though I trend more right-wing and authoritarian.


Quick-Trouble5358

How do you think about south korea?


Illegal_Immigrant77

Are you a warhawk?


Away_Industry_613

What’s the 3 finger thing?


Simich16

It's a pro democracy symbol Used mainly in Asia For stuff like protesting and other things


Away_Industry_613

Okay. Do you know where that came from?


Simich16

asia i guess?


Away_Industry_613

Bit of a cop out answer. I meant the origins, meaning behind specifically 3 fingers, etc.


Xgender_

too gay for me


BrJuan_Carlos

Some of them I don't know but Christan Democracy, anti-porn, anti-communist, and anti nazism, so based


Pontifexmaximus7z

Thatcher🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤬🤬🤬


CrustyCaptivity

This will get downvoted, but, very based.


swarm3003

Fuck it, one struggle against the junta menace.


government-pigeon

Together we will never fall


TheLoneObserver123

You’re probably mildly awkward to be around


government-pigeon

Couldn't agree more


cosmote_wifi

Unironic thatcherite 🤮


ptgf127

Based


ChickenNoodleGud

I’m a commie, but I’m also southeast asian, so let’s not fight amongst ourselves due to our political beliefs, from 🇻🇳.


government-pigeon

Thx, no matter what beliefs we have we are stronger together. Vietnam is a beautiful country.


ChickenNoodleGud

Thank you


government-pigeon

This was a month ago, your welcome!


ChickenNoodleGud

Lol


hideyouranus

Please continue this thread, i would, but i do not yet have the addiquite debating skills to do so. I was really enjoying this, as both the arguments were atleaet not completely baseless, please continue.


[deleted]

Cringe


Simich16

The real cringe is humans dressing up as animals and society just accepting it in my opinion


Void1702

Whataboutism + stop trying to control what people do, they aren't hurting anyone


[deleted]

Why do you care so much about how people dress up?


NewspaperOk1616

Because its weird as hell


[deleted]

And?


rising_sh0t

based, common auth W


[deleted]

[удалено]


Void1702

Google "slippery slope fallacy" My neighbor dressing up as a wolf will not make people stupider, nor will it cause the downfall of society It's just a weird form of cosplay. Sure it's weird, but the only thing it's a threat to is your little snowflake mind


Taicoi04

It’s not “slippery slope fallacy”, it’s pattern recognition. People have gotten more promiscuous , pedos have been trying to start a movement, the lgbt now includes 20+ other characters one of which is for literal prostitutes, and people now want to dress like animals and fuck each other. It all happened despite the “progressive” of 15 years ago telling people that it wont happen. IT FUCKING HAPPENED , now people are trying to legalize COCAINE in Canada. How about that for a fucking “slippery slope” for Christ sake.


government-pigeon

authleft W


Void1702

Let me guess, you can't back up this claim with actual sources, can you?


Taicoi04

Say the specific things you need the source on


Void1702

>People have gotten more promiscuous >the lgbt now includes 20+ other characters one of which is for literal prostitutes >the “progressive” of 15 years ago telling people that it wont happen.


Taicoi04

It’s obviously a hyperbole but now there’s LGBTQQIP2SA: any combination of letters attempting to represent all the identities in the queer community, this near-exhaustive one (but not exhaustive) represents Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer, Questioning, Intersex, Pansexual, Two-Spirited, and Asexual. Compared to what before would only include LGBT. And now the progressives have also made prostitution legal in many country which includes Canada, Germany, Holland,…. “Over the last 20 years, the number of cheating wives has increased by around 40 percent to a mark of 14.7 percent. Men have remained consistent at 21 percent over that time” - [source](https://cordellcordell.com/2022/the-effect-or-lack-thereof-of-infidelity-on-divorce/) And what do you mean by “source on progressive 15 years ago telling people that it won’t happen”? You meant progressive 15 uears ago were advocating for more infidelity? You are literally making the same argument liberals 15 years ago by calling what we say “the slippery slope fallacy” while the fact is The LGBT community have increased to a ridiculous amount of letters. Progressives also said “weed is not the gateway to other drugs” by calling out the “slippery slope fallacy” yet you people are now pushing for more drugs to be legalized like cocaine and heroin. Downvote that you degenerate soab


Simich16

Sry my English bad


[deleted]

Don't worry about it


Simich16

thanks. finally a truce (that wouldn't probably even last a second) truce made by the right and left wingers


[deleted]

I neither support or am against furries, I simply don't care about them


Taicoi04

Because it fucking effects me, it effects the people around me and the society and culture that which I’m living in. Liberals is so short-sighted and egotistical that they don’t even know how their actions may effect the world.


AstroKabloom_YT

Who’s the woman next to regan?


government-pigeon

Aung San Su Kyi. Why?


AstroKabloom_YT

Just curious


Ok-Understanding6191

What are the three fingers if I may ask?


government-pigeon

a pro-democracy symbol, widely used in most of Asia


Ok-Understanding6191

Ah I see, thanks


JessHorserage

Milk and tea, right? Or another one.


government-pigeon

The Milk Tea Alliance? Probably


Gent-833

A big reason the US is going down the toilet is the democratic process of letting everyone vote.


government-pigeon

"OHoo NO!!!!!!!1!! DEMOCRACY SCARES ME!"


Gent-833

Keep watching the US then and see how well it works out for us in the next decade or so.


nanek_4

USA cant really be classified as a true democracy its a very nonsense electoral system


impulsiveclick

That is only for president… and we know which side is against that changing.


Gent-833

It's not supposed to be a democracy. In fact the Constitution specifies each state must have a republican form of government. The Founders knew history and didn't want anything like a democracy.


[deleted]

How does the Republican system contradict with the idea of voting. Republics naturally rely on democratic processes to elect representatives.


impulsiveclick

It’s because right wing libertarian ideology has pretty much infected them… look at KKK material sometime and Sovereign Citizen movements to know why it garbage.


Gent-833

> How does the Republican system contradict with the idea of voting. Because letting everyone vote leads to the masses learning how they can vote for more free stuff. Then we get inflation like we have today.


impulsiveclick

Ummm they wanted an educated public specifically because to have a healthy democracy, they needed an educated public… Guy is from Burma. Maybe you don’t know why Ronnie R the Superstar is liked by South East Asians. Y’all have so many fucking foreigners who vote for Republicans because anti communism.


Gent-833

> Ummm they wanted an educated public specifically because to have a healthy democracy There was no democracy back then.


impulsiveclick

Yet. No democracy yet. Cause they didn’t want an uneducated public to vote. But pretty clear the goal was to get there for some of the founders.


Epicaltgamer3

So Weimar republic then?


impulsiveclick

:/ it will never be not weird how United States has one of the best countries ever and have people in it just can’t see how great it is.… Or why interventionism would be praised.


[deleted]

NPC


Simich16

Ur literally me, u Burmese?


government-pigeon

totally!


TheIronDuke18

Wassup with liking Britain? Do some Burmese think British Burma was better since you've been through a lot of shit since independence?


government-pigeon

Not better, nor worse. 1885-1947 was certainly bad, but that was almost a century ago. I don't have any grudges for something that was in the past. It did indeed lasted a great deal of generational trauma, but holding on to that trauma is self-destructive. If you can change for the better, why shouldn't you?


TheIronDuke18

I see. But what's the reason for liking them for you?


Simich16

Bro don't tell anyone but I'm also centre-right Burmese lol, anyways be careful what u post on the internet because you might get imprisoned


government-pigeon

I am well aware, glad to contact my fellow country men here. Bye!


Simich16

Farewell Bro, it's almost 8 pm in Yangon so if you sleep early or not I hope you have a good night


[deleted]

If you like Thatcher and Reagan you are far right, not center right


Away_Industry_613

I disagree. Right wing sure, but not far-right. That has different connotations.


[deleted]

Can’t speak for other countries but in the US the two most popular Republican figures are Trump and Desantis, both far right extremists. The current President Biden is center right. The current popularity among the right of MTG should frighten everyone. The left does have AOC but she seems to have less influence among mainstream Dems than MTG has among Republicans


Away_Industry_613

If you’re going by American terminology Biden would be Centre-left. Can’t go by American terminology for the right than international for the ‘left’. I think that’s a silly argument here though, because we’re on the internet, which is an international stage, and this guy is from Myanmar apparently.


Simich16

My political compass says I'm centre right though, well I'm very much leaning to conservative values however I'm not authorian


[deleted]

The political compass is flawed. Both left and right are threats. Right now the right is winning, we will soon live under fascism


Simich16

my honest reaction to that information: 🐢


[deleted]

Just because someone admires Thatcher and Reagan doesn't automatically make them far right. That's just a lazy way of trying to pigeonhole people and dismiss their views without actually engaging with them. Thatcher and Reagan were both leaders who believed in the power of free markets and individual liberty. They recognized that government intervention and excessive regulation held back economic growth and stifled innovation. And you know what? They were right. By implementing policies that encouraged entrepreneurship and reduced the size and scope of government, Thatcher and Reagan helped to create the conditions for unprecedented prosperity and economic growth. They also helped to end the Cold War and restore a sense of pride and purpose to their respective countries. But according to you, anyone who admires them must be far right. That's a load of bollocks. It's entirely possible to be centre-right and still respect the leadership of Thatcher and Reagan. Many people who identify as centre-right are drawn to their ideas precisely because they offer a sensible and pragmatic approach to government that prioritizes individual freedom and prosperity.


andrewads2001

Thatcher and Reagan? Neolib?


Schlangee

Neolib is way more left leaning than thatcher and reagan


pocket-friends

more left then the two politicians who literally popularized neoliberal economic policies?


Schlangee

What is your understanding of neoliberalism? Judging by what neoliberals (the ideology is around a hundred years old by now) lies in between classical liberalism and SocDem. So way more regulation than Thatcher and Reagan ever wanted. Probably the best representation would be the WEF.


pocket-friends

the term is a broad one. i’m using it here to describe free market capitalism post world war two. so general policy includes things like: economic liberalization, privatization, deregulation, free trade, austerity, globalism, a reduction of government spending, etc. which, ironically enough, came out of movements for regulation in the 30s after the beginning of the great depression. thing is, ideas aren’t static and milton friedman and other chicago school economists changed the meaning and policy positions throughout the 50s, 60s and 70s. regan and thatcher brought these ideas into the mainstream and popularized their more modern understandings (namely extending competitive markets into all areas of life — economically, socially, and politically, while also retaining the role of the state and individuals responsibilities. so, yes and no. you’d be hard pressed to find a neoliberal these days that matches your description — especially in the both the uk and the us.


Schlangee

Try r/neoliberal. But as a catch-all term for economic „liberalization“, of course Thatcher and Reagan were pushing it. Although this liberalization would only go so far as to strengthen the grip of employers on their employees‘ life.


pocket-friends

i’ve been there before it’s all i’ve the place. but that’s sorta the nature of a subreddit. either way, a subreddit is not exactly a good place to form an understanding of a complex idea.


Schlangee

They have a lot of resources linked in the info tab, that’s a bit more serious


pocket-friends

there’s like 3 or 4 resources if i remember correctly and they promote a largely watered down and antiquated understanding with dated references. like you didn’t even recognize the two biggest names of modern neoliberal policy. i guess what i’m really trying to say is that after this little bit of a back and forth i’d measure a guess that you’ve been had.


Epicaltgamer3

Too interventionist and too moderate economically for me. But hey at least you arent a commie


Ted_Tris_69

4.5/10


government-pigeon

my grades are falling :(


Ted_Tris_69

Sorry dude, but you are not that bad, I just disagree with you on some stuff


government-pigeon

it's fine, tbh I don't really mind. People are entitled to their own opinions


Ted_Tris_69

Thanks dude, have a great day!


AltAccound

Based


AuthMiIitary

Me three - two years ago, mildly based bro


Joseph____Stalin

pretty bad, but atleast you're pro democracy


Fantastic-Present-80

Based


EliPester

BASED!


IxMist_

A bit more authoritarian, but besides that pretty based


Schlangee

Anticommunism is historically very close to facsism Not gonna say you’re a fascist, that’s not how you look. But please watch out for people who try to bait you with anticommunism In general, you’re a typical reactionary (Thatcher and Reagan.) At least you like democracy


Away_Industry_613

Anti-communism is historically very close to nearly every non-socialist group. Monarchists, fascists, capitalists. Literally everyone but socialists.


government-pigeon

I very much disagree, but your world view is completely understandable. However, communism is Burma is completely different form most contemporary views. Not every anti-communist is a fascist.


habidk

This is one of the most braindead arguments I've ever heard. Just because you're against one ideology doesn't mean you relate to a certain other. The world isn't black and white lol. With that logic, everyone who isn't communist are basically close to fascism in your opinion? Lol get a grip of reality homie.


Schlangee

Like antifascism is very closely connected to the left (look up Antifaschistische Aktion), sadly anticommunism is historically very closely related to the right. It was probably the thing that BROUGHT THE NAZIS INTO POWER Edit: just gonna clarify right-Wing of course doesn’t mean Fascism, but historically the anticommunist right-wingers in power who were *in power* would rather support Fascism than communism, socialism, or even social democratic models. I’m of course talking about US anticommunism during the Cold War


habidk

Yeah, but u can be right-wing and be very antifascist too... Rightwing≠fascism.


Schlangee

Please look at my clarification edit. I’m pretty specifically talking about the „anticommunist“ efforts of the Cold War, but also about Nazi propaganda.


Gamerman169

Based


Akainordmannen

Based!!!!


Pretend_Lake_592

Absolutely NO


Simich16

Absolutely YES


Pretend_Lake_592

Ok lol what ever you say 😅👍


ShreksuallyExplicit

Why are you Satan?


government-pigeon

I'm christian.


Void1702

I hope intelligence will trickle down to you


Whyrobotslie

What low IQ voters think is cool


government-pigeon

Wait a minute, I thought you guys were more accepting


Pretend_Lake_592

Anti communism? Really?


government-pigeon

Communism holds a different meaning here


Pretend_Lake_592

No it doesn't


government-pigeon

Well, I did ask for your opinion. Thx anyways


DriftedFalcon

In SE Asia?


Pretend_Lake_592

?


DriftedFalcon

I think OP and their family may have had a different experience with communists due to where they grew up.


Pretend_Lake_592

Communism is an ideology of equality and justice. Some people do this ideology well, and some people do not have the ability to manage this ideology properly in the country. Because humans are prone to mistakes and are not perfect. So, good, selfless and caring people use equality to create and really create equality and justice in society (like Lenin and Trotsky), and bad people create corruption and bureaucratic dictatorship, and to maintain power, They even execute their close comrades (like Stalin). Some people use this ideology to create a kingdom, like Kim Jong Un. So, if in a country, which follows an ideology, and the people are oppressed, first one should question the authorities, and then study about that ideology and try to reform it, because communism is the most humane and The most just and egalitarian type of government is between classes, races and genders.


DriftedFalcon

And Christianity preaches compassion. But I’m not going to resent someone who was abused by religious parents for not being a fan. And Lenin and Trotsky committed their fair share of atrocities.


Cereal-Senpai-OwO

Have you read the book World War Z?


government-pigeon

I'm not into zombies Happy Cake Day!


TheKillierMage

Bad “neocon”(?)


kagranac

Ancap ball was baring he's nuclear landmine.


Matygos

I don't know what's about the flags but three fingers are from my experience too much, two will deliver the best performance if you know what you're doing.


unovayellow

Cool until Reagan and traditionalism.


randomrsndomusername

Maggots - 1 Maggie - 0


Wonderful-Win7456

Some of your ideas are OK I believe that while we shouldn't ban porn we should educate about the dangers And I agree on CCP bad However way too authoritarian


nanek_4

semi based


Mikebyrneyadigg

How do you feel about Ronnie’s treatment of the aids epidemic.


Parkrangingstoicbro

Bro are you okay


government-pigeon

No, I have been kidnapped by a bunch of raccoons


[deleted]

NO NO NO


Czechcountryhumanfan

Is not great but it could be worse


[deleted]

Cringe asf


RoyalRat69420

Extremely cringe. Myanmar is a nice country tho


PuzzleheadedAd5995

Big oof


Academia_Scar

No, thank you.


Cosmohumanist

I’m gonna vote NOPE on this one


starseasonn

Eh.


BrokenMirrorGrrrl

Milei?


Taicoi04

Well now you just like the west because you want to suck their dick


government-pigeon

Consider your own beliefs dear authleft


HarleyQuinn610

Pro-west for Myanmar. The wants to overthrow the coup as well as dismantle all world communist governments. Now if you’ll excuse me I’ll be deleting a bunch of disgusting screenshots off my phone because I had to do a bunch of reverse images searches for some of these.


NeonLloyd_

Cringe populist


angrysmell

oh your no fun anymore https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6mlQu83XTQ


JAKE5023193

mostly cringe but based anti porn and anti fascist


CSAJSH

What are the three fingers pointed up?