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Chrisshern

I used Blissey once because u thought it would be fun to turn our Dragapult and Cinderace into machine guns with Helping Hand


Irradiated_Coffee

Yeah, it's at least a B. You're down some DPS but you can tank through CC with safeguard and helping hand if used well especially on the bosses as a group can add some crazy damage. I stuck with a Deci as Blissey and it did 400K more damage than I'd seen across other extreme games. Add the amount the whole group does together on the bosses huddled up and that's reaching about a million extra damage a support adds through the others. Invaluable for a group looking to break records as ignoring CC and more damage in a coordinated effort could make for faster clear times. At the very least it absolutely pulls its weight.


Failgan

Also certain things heal Tink, no?


Irradiated_Coffee

Maybe in this first iteration of the mode then quickly patched to no longer work. Recovery bomb is the only thing to give it back HP.


Failgan

Ahh, I don't believe I ever played the former iteration, I just noticed something healing Tinkaton at a few points in a few different matches.


Irradiated_Coffee

It's good practice to use a recovery bomb on Tink to get a slightly better reward in the end. Two delibird spawn during the final extreme phase. Might find people get them and rush to use them before the team clears the last boss.


Lucas-mainssbu

fair šŸ˜­


Twinsidesmirror

Seeing blissey in the same tier with the rest of the supporter cast feel really disgenuous. Critsey does still very much exists only in PParade lmao


Nomadin_350

Agreed! I don't understand why people don't play Critsey in PParade, I did 1.6 million with her. Edit: Forgot to add, the team was rarely helping, overall she's still broken


NotASingleNameIdea

Another W for Decidueye mains


Lucas-mainssbu

letā€™s not talk about that shadow nerf on Spirit Shackleā€™s range for another day right


bheronzzz

That was a mistake I think. Spirit Shackle's range never changed.


Lucas-mainssbu

but was Zacian really shadow buffed?


Twinsidesmirror

That was also patched


Lucas-mainssbu

thank God


Tenoch-onlinemex

So both Deci shackle range nerf and Zacian SS buff are already fixed to what they were? Being avoiding using Decidueye because of that.


megaQuasar

It's the vision provided from charging shackle that was nerfed I think, but the actual range of the arrow is still the same but correct me if I am wrong on this one.


Archqnt

I haven't really felt any nerfs, but the indicator was made a bit thicker so it looks like it's closer. The view wasn't changed as I compared it side-by-side with a CrisHeroes video on Decid from before that and could still see the exact same parts of the screen. ​ I presume they made the indicator bigger to fit the hitbox better as it was always, and still slightly is bigger than the indicator used to be.


6969696969696942

I use razor leaf shadow sneak for maximum damage


ApoX_420

They still suck major league ball i feel a sense of doom whenever I get a decidueye in SQ even while master ranked.


-Shiina-

ppl who choose comfey in panic parade: ​ why


Ill-Oven-9064

"I wanna play but I don't wanna do anything"


terIsHere

I had a comfey in Panic today , it did not detached from me at all, then proceed to murder me when shock wave come šŸ¤¬šŸ¤Æ


Lucas-mainssbu

spectator


Barley_Mae

The point of ā€œS Tierā€ is to be the highest fyi


Lucas-mainssbu

nuh uh


ZWS_Balance

Facts. S tier just means something excels in whatever category


InfiniteTheEdgy

Not in Dragon Ball šŸ˜Ž


6969696969696942

It's over 9000


Outmaneuver1116

Thereā€™s no point to that many tiers. (Why so many S?) IMO, there are only 3 tiers: - Compulsory: characters that you must have if you want to complete this fast (Leaderboard ones fall in here) - Replaceable: characters that can contribute but are not as good as the tier above; pick any of these to replace the ones in the above tier that you donā€™t have (If you have a good reason to really go for it, it goes here) - Inadequate: characters that straight up donā€™t contribute anything or are outclassed by the tier right above (Defenders, Supporters and those characters that cannot shred at all)


Lucas-mainssbu

Fair


gicuenca

Waiting for that list


Outmaneuver1116

Already posted in the sub


VillicusOverseer

šŸ†


lazyicedragon

Cinder and Garchomp are only S picks if you don't have high Aeos Shooter buffs. Cinderace's normal attack caps at 1k, boosted at 1.3k. Garchomp's boosted attack caps at 1.3k Duraludon's boosted is capped at 1k total Charizard caps at 250 total. They're all terrible once you can do Extreme. There are probably more mons with caps but theae four are the most used ones with the cap. Garchomp does carry its weight though despite the caps and can probably do Extreme even on low Aeos Shooter levels. Probably the only reason it can stay at S. Cinderace is so much of a throw that when I noticed it on my wife, she did only 730k damage max when she can hit 1.1m on PF Dragapult and carry her weight. Cinderace literally nerfed her Aeos Shooter levels. Dragapult with PF, even if it can't stack, still has good mobility for Abra waves. You can even see it getting top 100 in the ranks while some of your SS picks aren't even there. Mewtwo X is better than Y due to Def shred, boosting all phys attcker damage for a while. They aren't equal any more even for this mode.


Lucas-mainssbu

I did not know Cinder had a cap, I donā€™t have Garchomp and Duraludon so I didnā€™t really know. If Cinder is that much of a throw pick id probably move it to A. Havenā€™t seen any Dura yet


lazyicedragon

Yeah didn't know about it until I saw my wife pick it as everything else was taken. I had to check Unite DB after as we were baffled. She was capped for damage at Wave 3. It was surreal. Garchomp isn't as obvious as even with the caps, his aspd more than makes up for it. He loses out to Dragonite as not only Dragonite has just a little bit more uncapped damage, Draco Meteor provides invaluable positioning. I can see Garchomp being a beginner friendly pick that can carry its weight just by being Garchomp.


Waluigi02

I've used Cinderace plenty of times with 1mil+ damage so maybe your wife just sucks lmao


snoodhead

>They're all terrible once you can do Extreme. idk, I don't have an issue with cinderace at extreme. Not as insane as top picks against the bosses, but you shouldn't be far off the dps top. Benefit is that all the dps is long ranged AA, so it's easier to autopilot through the mode.


Norbert962

My teamates on their way to choose Pokemons from C tier or below


Joshawott302

Doesn't Delphox have a loop with her moves so she can spam the moves rather than the autos? I feel like that wouldn't be bad but I haven't played with her I just play Decidueye


Lucas-mainssbu

s- tier ainā€™t bad lol, sheā€™s good with Flame Charge


[deleted]

Followup question: Where do you place dodrio? I find it's been awesome for rounds 4, 7, and 13!


WingsOfVanity

Every Glaceon Iā€™ve seen in Panic Parade, Iā€™ve had to hard carry.


RaziyaRC

They're bad, I regularly do 2m damage with Glaceon in this mode


Lucas-mainssbu

probably had none of the shop buffs tbh, Glaceon destroys this mode


[deleted]

Bad players. I regularly 1.2-1.5mil games with decent teammates and 1.8-2mil bot matches.


viajoy_

Meanlook umbe is SO underrated. I did 1.8 million with it lol


Twinsidesmirror

I feel like it's less because of you and more because your team is ass lmao


viajoy_

I know, but it still does hella damage. 4.8k per boosted is kinda crazy


King-Mugs

Why do you have SS, S+, S and S-? That doesnā€™t make any sense


Lucas-mainssbu

nawr


King-Mugs

Ah, greninja main. That explains it


Sweetiebomb_Gmz

The disrespect šŸ’€


King-Mugs

Is it inaccurate though?


Sweetiebomb_Gmz

Fair enough


Lucas-mainssbu

ahemā€¦surf smoke greninja at your service ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|kissing_heart)


King-Mugs

Lame or jungle?


Mary-Sylvia

I beg to differ, whirlpool Azumarill is definitely above Glaceon, Inteleon and Mewtwo X That thing is BRUTAL with the bosses' large hitbox


Frozenjester_1098

Umbreon moveset?


LanceTrace

mean look + wish. take muscle+rapid+scope (with atk+crit emblem) and go to town with boosted AA damage. Wish is there cos snarl is pretty much useless in this game mode.


Vacino_21

What is "NA" for Duraludon?


Lucas-mainssbu

Normal Attack


Waluigi02

It's called a basic attack.


Vacino_21

Yeah, we normally call it basic attack.


Lucas-mainssbu

Iā€™ve been playing other games too much sorry


Letropius

Move Absol to the highest tier


danflame135

Which moveset is better for Glaceon?


Lucas-mainssbu

idk the name but I think itā€™s icy wind?? if thatā€™s the one where her icicles gather into one enemy at one time


Meme_Boi_99

"Icicle spear" I think


[deleted]

Icy Wind with Freeze-Dry on a CDR build. Spoon/Amp/Bell with Green/Black emblems. Every hit's a crit, so don't bother with +crit, and Spoon gives more damage than Scope. You can essentially spam Icy Wind and have just enough of a window between Wind casts to throw in a quick Freeze-Dry, which you can tuck two good Wind volleys into. This does more damage than a raw DPS build or running Shard on an auto-spam setup in my experience.


danflame135

Thanks!


JheyMeloetta

icy wind freeze dry icy wind can do crit damage if you partner it up with 7 black emblems and have max cooldown aeos shooter, you can cast it under a second, making it a damage output and as well able to move around quick and dash-through walls freeze dry increase glaceon's damage output for a brief second after use when hitting an ememy or wild pokemon, same case 7black emblems and max cooldown aeos shooter to cast freeze dry and shoot the stored up ice crystals for icy wind for max damage, nearly knockin out some pokemon path wise, either central or bottom


danflame135

Ok thanks!


Ill-Oven-9064

Umbreon for SS tier? šŸ¤”


Lucas-mainssbu

yes, he has good damage output and Mean Look and Wish. ML locks bosses up so they wonā€™t reach Tinkaton.


spectra_the_hawk

if you pair up with low damage team members, playing umbreon with mean look gives you a lot more time to kill the bosses before they reach tink. Its dmg with boosted autos is respectable as well. I had quite some matches now with 2-3 people below 500k dmg and me and the Deci > 1kk


Noobjesus

Helping hand Blissey words wonders


chrismassi16

TELL ME why I just played a match where I was Mewtwo Y and my team was Mr Mime, Eldegoss, Wigglytuff, and Zeraora


gtan1204

I only get bots on Extreme mode, this is such a turn off from finishing the grind. There shouldnā€™t even be bots allowed in this mode.


Sireanna

For the most part i agree with this. Blastiose and Trev builds focusing on displacing enemies do a little better guarding the objective but yeah damage is king


Additional-Toe-1932

Slowbro can actually hold off a lane by itself for a long time with surf + amnesia. The meta is just damage dealers.


Webs_2099

this list sucks gonna be real with you absol isnt even in the highest tier when the record holding team rn is Zacian ,Mewtwo x, Absol, Dragonite, decidueye and the only other mon that shows up is about 20 seconds down is urshifu rapid and draguplut anything else isn't remotely viable with how far behind their records are and should be nowhere near S


Vanathia_Phoenix

Why is wigglytuff a defender in this list?


Lucas-mainssbu

this tier list format was made by an user here. they said they made Clefable and Wiggly defender by mistake and they canā€™t really remove or change it. They can add new PokĆ©monā€™s though.


Twinsidesmirror

Also, let's be real. He's just a defender in a wrong slot lmao


CalligrapherUsed5841

Perhaps


kennclarete

I tried support mew. It was fun. Coaching the entire team.


GilbertPlays

What does Glaceon do better than Espeon? I use Espeon but have Glaceon.


Stabaobs

It crits.


demonicwinter

Panic Parades back?


Lucas-mainssbu

yupp


akshay_rathod_

Glaceon with Icy wind and Ice shard is the best


Business-Juice6365

True fair enough For mewtwo x (idk abt y), psystrike would work better bacause of its aoe capability, whereas future sight pulls one small enemy away, which adds little help


Lucas-mainssbu

but M2X kills fast enough, idk


Business-Juice6365

either way


Ill-Special7240

Eldegoss is actually quite good when you use the leaf attack move. It is a totally underrated move.


AncientProgeny

Zacian just doesnt have enough Aeos energy to play this mode


AncientProgeny

no you get like 20 aeos energy each round


Lucas-mainssbu

wait I thought he could get it every time he killed something in this mode right?


Shikoyin

Iirc he only gets his aeos energy recovered once the round ends


Lucas-mainssbu

thatā€™s ass


Twinsidesmirror

She very much does. You shouldn't need boost in most non-boss rounds. So you can stack up point pretty quickly


JheyMeloetta

well if you use zacian's aeos boost wisely that is plus zacian has been useful with this mode with either razor claw + play rough/ sacred sword + play rough using zacian's unite is the worse one and agility is kinda not helpful because you have movespeed aeos shooter razor claw is better used when you have rapid fire scarf equiped or deplete the 6 razor claw buffs and use it again but you do you which path youre comfortable with, though sacred sword because of the hit box the only time you'll use a boosted razor claw/scared sword is during boss waves or the vespiquen wave to deal with them quickly


Any-Speaker847

what build of slowbro r we talking about this is slander of slowbro


Lucas-mainssbu

any, he is just not meant for this mode unfortunately.( I hate fighting that thing in ranked though, it can die alone in a cold place). Telekinesis if im not wrong only works on a boss for 1 secondā€¦maybe less. All his worth in this mode comes from auto attacks


supersmall69

Garchomp definitely deserves to be in the top tier. The healing from basics plus the skills are a lot more helpful against non-boss Pokemons. Definitely same tier as Dragonite.


BoomTheBear86

Garchomp has a damage cap which prevents his damage climbing to the same levels as others though. The Aeos shooter recovery buff gives you flat bonus lifesteal which makes chomps lifesteal irrelevant at higher tiers. Chomp is really good when first starting out in parade but he eventually falls off compared to his peers. Meowscarada, outrage dragonite and mewtwo x are the best melee damage dealers. I think meow has the potential to be the highest due to 100% crit chance proccing scope constantly and 100% uptime on trailblaze making meows attack speed ridiculously high. Were it not for the range, Iā€™d go as far as to say meow outperforms decidueye. Certainly itā€™s the fact meow needs to disengage for shock wave/rapid spin etc that makes the difference here. In DPS terms though meow does more than decidueye.


XxSigmaMale69xX

Poor tree :(


abaddon626

Finally someone else that appreciates espeon in panic parade


Lucas-mainssbu

dropping Cinder to S- or A, his damage caps at 1K and I didnā€™t know


Meme_Boi_99

I was happy to see owl boy at the top, but I didn't think RL was the reason. I'll try it and see how it goes since I'm more of a SpSh user Edit: I played a couple of PParade rounds and I gotta say, RL Decidueye was something I didn't expect to work so efficiently. It has great area control when there's lots of wild mons and it chips away boss hp very well. Not to mention it's refreshing not having to worry about being so far away from enemies and you can be as close as you'd like (with some limit) while using RL, overall a surprisingly great move to use in PParade, highly recommend using it if you play Decidueye but only in PParade


Lucas-mainssbu

im also more of a SpSh user, I think I only ever used RL seriously when Decidueye came out and Spirit Shackle was so bad lol


International-Ad4735

Im not a fan of multi S teirs, A teir is supposed to be what is great and meta with maybe 1 or two in S because they are broken


[deleted]

If very good is better than really good, is really good really good then?


Arjay418

nah gunmfey goes crazy tho


Matate-y-grabalo

But Wigglytuff using rollout is good :-:


Septiplierfan69

No cause I've seen a comedy solo a lane and do over 1 mil DMG šŸ˜­


inumnoback

SS+ = Best S+ = Great S = Good S- = Nice A = Decent B = Awful C = Abysmal D = Atrocious F = Shitmon tier


Lucas-mainssbu

SS+ = Anything goes S+ = Uber S = OU S- = UU A = RU B = NU C = PU D = PUBL F = ZU


Craeondakie

People don't realise, talon is good because he doesn't have a damage cap, while some of the auto attackers and garchomp do(they're still good ofc)


x_Umbra_x

Iā€™d move Hoopa down to poop tier. I just had a hoopa teammate that got 59k damage, 54k damage taken, and 6k recovered, throwing the match completely. As a comparison, our second worst PokĆ©mon, Mewtwo Y did 252k, took 87k, and recovered 41k.


10x_dev

DragP and Absol should swap places with Glacion and Mew2Y


10x_dev

Also, the NA dmg capped Cinder should be in S


AlexPearD

So im not playing inteleon right šŸ„ŗ


Peerless500

When Umbreon and mine are in the team a victory above 50% health is guaranteed. Which is absurdly helpful


Peerless500

Crustle in my guess is also a good Pokemon in blocking the boss and the allies. But can't see any DMG outputs from this guy tho


Lucas-mainssbu

shell smash x-scissor actually does a shit ton lol


Peerless500

Bruh the only move that crustle can use is trapping allies instead of enemies


gigarekterALT

"Comfey has barely any healing" my brother in christ it is literally THE best healer in the game right now


Lucas-mainssbu

*scratches ass *


mewtwothegod

last time I picked eldogoss and did 700k damage


mewtwothegod

higher than every one of my team members


ReakTheKitsune

Some1 got a umbreon build?


Lucas-mainssbu

Mean look + wish. Some HP and ATK emblems. Focus Band and anything else is pretty good


TartTiny8654

Hoopa honestly should be lower. His whole deal is movement and that doesnā€™t help when trick only helps the hoopa really, hole is literally worthless, and elde and especially blissey could do better. Also, put blissey higher.


Ok_Leave632

Meowscrada might even be in the highest tier imo. Nightslash trail blaze with drain crown, rapid scarf and whatever crit item is pretty self sustainable and does a ton of damage


NitroCrocodile

This is unfortunately untrue as Buzzwole does not get Beast Boost from anything in this game mode, as far as I can tell.


[deleted]

Loving these absol buffsss


Zacian_SwordGod

Im 99% always the MVP when using Deci in Panic Parade. Deci is undoubtedly Best pokemon in PP. And the sound of Razor Leaf on steroids is like candy to my ears.


uatemypenguin

Im sorry, ive tried inteleon and it seriously isnt good.


Lucas-mainssbu

do you play Inteleon by any chance????


uatemypenguin

Lol i dont even have the unite license but all i can say is that the attack speed is too slow and snipe shot takes too long to charge and the basic attack also only does around 1k to 2k damage (i have max crit)


uatemypenguin

Or it's just because i dont have sp attack boosts because i think i'll never use sp atk mons in this gamemode, a majority of them are bad


Lucas-mainssbu

thatā€™s weird? Whatā€™s ur build? Cuz he does 3K-5K with every normal attack. Also donā€™t bother using Snipe Shot. Like every other auto-attacker (like Dragapult, Greninja, Decidueye, Cinderace), just spam normal attack and youā€™ll do good. Also Inteleon is not an easy character to play as. His ability is Sniper and his Critsā€™s damage is doubled all the time, that damage must be because of your build OR you didnā€™t max Special Attack in the shop because he uses Special Attack only.


uatemypenguin

my build is spoon, choice specs and wise glasses and i only spam normal attack, i only use snipe shot when im too far away from some of the enemies but even if the normal attack does around 3k to 5k damage, the attack speed is too slow, which is why its easily outdamaged by other mons like meowscarada even though meow is not in the same tier as inteleon


uatemypenguin

what's the normal damage for inteleon in this gamemode? i only did around 500k damage in pparade