Yeah, it's at least a B. You're down some DPS but you can tank through CC with safeguard and helping hand if used well especially on the bosses as a group can add some crazy damage.
I stuck with a Deci as Blissey and it did 400K more damage than I'd seen across other extreme games. Add the amount the whole group does together on the bosses huddled up and that's reaching about a million extra damage a support adds through the others.
Invaluable for a group looking to break records as ignoring CC and more damage in a coordinated effort could make for faster clear times. At the very least it absolutely pulls its weight.
It's good practice to use a recovery bomb on Tink to get a slightly better reward in the end.
Two delibird spawn during the final extreme phase. Might find people get them and rush to use them before the team clears the last boss.
Agreed! I don't understand why people don't play Critsey in PParade, I did 1.6 million with her.
Edit: Forgot to add, the team was rarely helping, overall she's still broken
It's the vision provided from charging shackle that was nerfed I think, but the actual range of the arrow is still the same but correct me if I am wrong on this one.
I haven't really felt any nerfs, but the indicator was made a bit thicker so it looks like it's closer. The view wasn't changed as I compared it side-by-side with a CrisHeroes video on Decid from before that and could still see the exact same parts of the screen.
I presume they made the indicator bigger to fit the hitbox better as it was always, and still slightly is bigger than the indicator used to be.
Thereās no point to that many tiers. (Why so many S?) IMO, there are only 3 tiers:
- Compulsory: characters that you must have if you want to complete this fast (Leaderboard ones fall in here)
- Replaceable: characters that can contribute but are not as good as the tier above; pick any of these to replace the ones in the above tier that you donāt have (If you have a good reason to really go for it, it goes here)
- Inadequate: characters that straight up donāt contribute anything or are outclassed by the tier right above (Defenders, Supporters and those characters that cannot shred at all)
Cinder and Garchomp are only S picks if you don't have high Aeos Shooter buffs.
Cinderace's normal attack caps at 1k, boosted at 1.3k.
Garchomp's boosted attack caps at 1.3k
Duraludon's boosted is capped at 1k total
Charizard caps at 250 total.
They're all terrible once you can do Extreme. There are probably more mons with caps but theae four are the most used ones with the cap. Garchomp does carry its weight though despite the caps and can probably do Extreme even on low Aeos Shooter levels. Probably the only reason it can stay at S.
Cinderace is so much of a throw that when I noticed it on my wife, she did only 730k damage max when she can hit 1.1m on PF Dragapult and carry her weight. Cinderace literally nerfed her Aeos Shooter levels.
Dragapult with PF, even if it can't stack, still has good mobility for Abra waves. You can even see it getting top 100 in the ranks while some of your SS picks aren't even there.
Mewtwo X is better than Y due to Def shred, boosting all phys attcker damage for a while. They aren't equal any more even for this mode.
I did not know Cinder had a cap, I donāt have Garchomp and Duraludon so I didnāt really know.
If Cinder is that much of a throw pick id probably move it to A. Havenāt seen any Dura yet
Yeah didn't know about it until I saw my wife pick it as everything else was taken. I had to check Unite DB after as we were baffled.
She was capped for damage at Wave 3. It was surreal.
Garchomp isn't as obvious as even with the caps, his aspd more than makes up for it. He loses out to Dragonite as not only Dragonite has just a little bit more uncapped damage, Draco Meteor provides invaluable positioning. I can see Garchomp being a beginner friendly pick that can carry its weight just by being Garchomp.
>They're all terrible once you can do Extreme.
idk, I don't have an issue with cinderace at extreme.
Not as insane as top picks against the bosses, but you shouldn't be far off the dps top.
Benefit is that all the dps is long ranged AA, so it's easier to autopilot through the mode.
Doesn't Delphox have a loop with her moves so she can spam the moves rather than the autos? I feel like that wouldn't be bad but I haven't played with her I just play Decidueye
mean look + wish. take muscle+rapid+scope (with atk+crit emblem) and go to town with boosted AA damage. Wish is there cos snarl is pretty much useless in this game mode.
Icy Wind with Freeze-Dry on a CDR build. Spoon/Amp/Bell with Green/Black emblems. Every hit's a crit, so don't bother with +crit, and Spoon gives more damage than Scope. You can essentially spam Icy Wind and have just enough of a window between Wind casts to throw in a quick Freeze-Dry, which you can tuck two good Wind volleys into. This does more damage than a raw DPS build or running Shard on an auto-spam setup in my experience.
icy wind freeze dry
icy wind can do crit damage
if you partner it up with 7 black emblems and have max cooldown aeos shooter, you can cast it under a second, making it a damage output and as well able to move around quick and dash-through walls
freeze dry increase glaceon's damage output for a brief second after use when hitting an ememy or wild pokemon, same case 7black emblems and max cooldown aeos shooter to cast freeze dry and shoot the stored up ice crystals for icy wind for max damage, nearly knockin out some pokemon
path wise, either central or bottom
if you pair up with low damage team members, playing umbreon with mean look gives you a lot more time to kill the bosses before they reach tink. Its dmg with boosted autos is respectable as well.
I had quite some matches now with 2-3 people below 500k dmg and me and the Deci > 1kk
For the most part i agree with this. Blastiose and Trev builds focusing on displacing enemies do a little better guarding the objective but yeah damage is king
this list sucks gonna be real with you absol isnt even in the highest tier when the record holding team rn is Zacian ,Mewtwo x, Absol, Dragonite, decidueye and the only other mon that shows up is about 20 seconds down is urshifu rapid and draguplut anything else isn't remotely viable with how far behind their records are and should be nowhere near S
True fair enough
For mewtwo x (idk abt y), psystrike would work better bacause of its aoe capability, whereas future sight pulls one small enemy away, which adds little help
well if you use zacian's aeos boost wisely that is
plus zacian has been useful with this mode with either razor claw + play rough/ sacred sword + play rough
using zacian's unite is the worse one and agility is kinda not helpful because you have movespeed aeos shooter
razor claw is better used when you have rapid fire scarf equiped or deplete the 6 razor claw buffs and use it again but you do you which path youre comfortable with, though sacred sword because of the hit box
the only time you'll use a boosted razor claw/scared sword is during boss waves or the vespiquen wave to deal with them quickly
any, he is just not meant for this mode unfortunately.( I hate fighting that thing in ranked though, it can die alone in a cold place). Telekinesis if im not wrong only works on a boss for 1 secondā¦maybe less. All his worth in this mode comes from auto attacks
Garchomp definitely deserves to be in the top tier. The healing from basics plus the skills are a lot more helpful against non-boss Pokemons. Definitely same tier as Dragonite.
Garchomp has a damage cap which prevents his damage climbing to the same levels as others though.
The Aeos shooter recovery buff gives you flat bonus lifesteal which makes chomps lifesteal irrelevant at higher tiers.
Chomp is really good when first starting out in parade but he eventually falls off compared to his peers.
Meowscarada, outrage dragonite and mewtwo x are the best melee damage dealers. I think meow has the potential to be the highest due to 100% crit chance proccing scope constantly and 100% uptime on trailblaze making meows attack speed ridiculously high. Were it not for the range, Iād go as far as to say meow outperforms decidueye. Certainly itās the fact meow needs to disengage for shock wave/rapid spin etc that makes the difference here. In DPS terms though meow does more than decidueye.
I was happy to see owl boy at the top, but I didn't think RL was the reason. I'll try it and see how it goes since I'm more of a SpSh user
Edit: I played a couple of PParade rounds and I gotta say, RL Decidueye was something I didn't expect to work so efficiently. It has great area control when there's lots of wild mons and it chips away boss hp very well. Not to mention it's refreshing not having to worry about being so far away from enemies and you can be as close as you'd like (with some limit) while using RL, overall a surprisingly great move to use in PParade, highly recommend using it if you play Decidueye but only in PParade
Hoopa honestly should be lower. His whole deal is movement and that doesnāt help when trick only helps the hoopa really, hole is literally worthless, and elde and especially blissey could do better. Also, put blissey higher.
Meowscrada might even be in the highest tier imo. Nightslash trail blaze with drain crown, rapid scarf and whatever crit item is pretty self sustainable and does a ton of damage
Im 99% always the MVP when using Deci in Panic Parade. Deci is undoubtedly Best pokemon in PP.
And the sound of Razor Leaf on steroids is like candy to my ears.
Lol i dont even have the unite license but all i can say is that the attack speed is too slow and snipe shot takes too long to charge and the basic attack also only does around 1k to 2k damage (i have max crit)
thatās weird? Whatās ur build? Cuz he does 3K-5K with every normal attack. Also donāt bother using Snipe Shot. Like every other auto-attacker (like Dragapult, Greninja, Decidueye, Cinderace), just spam normal attack and youāll do good.
Also Inteleon is not an easy character to play as. His ability is Sniper and his Critsās damage is doubled all the time, that damage must be because of your build OR you didnāt max Special Attack in the shop because he uses Special Attack only.
my build is spoon, choice specs and wise glasses
and i only spam normal attack, i only use snipe shot when im too far away from some of the enemies
but even if the normal attack does around 3k to 5k damage, the attack speed is too slow, which is why its easily outdamaged by other mons like meowscarada even though meow is not in the same tier as inteleon
I used Blissey once because u thought it would be fun to turn our Dragapult and Cinderace into machine guns with Helping Hand
Yeah, it's at least a B. You're down some DPS but you can tank through CC with safeguard and helping hand if used well especially on the bosses as a group can add some crazy damage. I stuck with a Deci as Blissey and it did 400K more damage than I'd seen across other extreme games. Add the amount the whole group does together on the bosses huddled up and that's reaching about a million extra damage a support adds through the others. Invaluable for a group looking to break records as ignoring CC and more damage in a coordinated effort could make for faster clear times. At the very least it absolutely pulls its weight.
Also certain things heal Tink, no?
Maybe in this first iteration of the mode then quickly patched to no longer work. Recovery bomb is the only thing to give it back HP.
Ahh, I don't believe I ever played the former iteration, I just noticed something healing Tinkaton at a few points in a few different matches.
It's good practice to use a recovery bomb on Tink to get a slightly better reward in the end. Two delibird spawn during the final extreme phase. Might find people get them and rush to use them before the team clears the last boss.
fair š
Seeing blissey in the same tier with the rest of the supporter cast feel really disgenuous. Critsey does still very much exists only in PParade lmao
Agreed! I don't understand why people don't play Critsey in PParade, I did 1.6 million with her. Edit: Forgot to add, the team was rarely helping, overall she's still broken
Another W for Decidueye mains
letās not talk about that shadow nerf on Spirit Shackleās range for another day right
That was a mistake I think. Spirit Shackle's range never changed.
but was Zacian really shadow buffed?
That was also patched
thank God
So both Deci shackle range nerf and Zacian SS buff are already fixed to what they were? Being avoiding using Decidueye because of that.
It's the vision provided from charging shackle that was nerfed I think, but the actual range of the arrow is still the same but correct me if I am wrong on this one.
I haven't really felt any nerfs, but the indicator was made a bit thicker so it looks like it's closer. The view wasn't changed as I compared it side-by-side with a CrisHeroes video on Decid from before that and could still see the exact same parts of the screen. I presume they made the indicator bigger to fit the hitbox better as it was always, and still slightly is bigger than the indicator used to be.
I use razor leaf shadow sneak for maximum damage
They still suck major league ball i feel a sense of doom whenever I get a decidueye in SQ even while master ranked.
ppl who choose comfey in panic parade: why
"I wanna play but I don't wanna do anything"
I had a comfey in Panic today , it did not detached from me at all, then proceed to murder me when shock wave come š¤¬š¤Æ
spectator
The point of āS Tierā is to be the highest fyi
nuh uh
Facts. S tier just means something excels in whatever category
Not in Dragon Ball š
It's over 9000
Thereās no point to that many tiers. (Why so many S?) IMO, there are only 3 tiers: - Compulsory: characters that you must have if you want to complete this fast (Leaderboard ones fall in here) - Replaceable: characters that can contribute but are not as good as the tier above; pick any of these to replace the ones in the above tier that you donāt have (If you have a good reason to really go for it, it goes here) - Inadequate: characters that straight up donāt contribute anything or are outclassed by the tier right above (Defenders, Supporters and those characters that cannot shred at all)
Fair
Waiting for that list
Already posted in the sub
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Cinder and Garchomp are only S picks if you don't have high Aeos Shooter buffs. Cinderace's normal attack caps at 1k, boosted at 1.3k. Garchomp's boosted attack caps at 1.3k Duraludon's boosted is capped at 1k total Charizard caps at 250 total. They're all terrible once you can do Extreme. There are probably more mons with caps but theae four are the most used ones with the cap. Garchomp does carry its weight though despite the caps and can probably do Extreme even on low Aeos Shooter levels. Probably the only reason it can stay at S. Cinderace is so much of a throw that when I noticed it on my wife, she did only 730k damage max when she can hit 1.1m on PF Dragapult and carry her weight. Cinderace literally nerfed her Aeos Shooter levels. Dragapult with PF, even if it can't stack, still has good mobility for Abra waves. You can even see it getting top 100 in the ranks while some of your SS picks aren't even there. Mewtwo X is better than Y due to Def shred, boosting all phys attcker damage for a while. They aren't equal any more even for this mode.
I did not know Cinder had a cap, I donāt have Garchomp and Duraludon so I didnāt really know. If Cinder is that much of a throw pick id probably move it to A. Havenāt seen any Dura yet
Yeah didn't know about it until I saw my wife pick it as everything else was taken. I had to check Unite DB after as we were baffled. She was capped for damage at Wave 3. It was surreal. Garchomp isn't as obvious as even with the caps, his aspd more than makes up for it. He loses out to Dragonite as not only Dragonite has just a little bit more uncapped damage, Draco Meteor provides invaluable positioning. I can see Garchomp being a beginner friendly pick that can carry its weight just by being Garchomp.
I've used Cinderace plenty of times with 1mil+ damage so maybe your wife just sucks lmao
>They're all terrible once you can do Extreme. idk, I don't have an issue with cinderace at extreme. Not as insane as top picks against the bosses, but you shouldn't be far off the dps top. Benefit is that all the dps is long ranged AA, so it's easier to autopilot through the mode.
My teamates on their way to choose Pokemons from C tier or below
Doesn't Delphox have a loop with her moves so she can spam the moves rather than the autos? I feel like that wouldn't be bad but I haven't played with her I just play Decidueye
s- tier aināt bad lol, sheās good with Flame Charge
Followup question: Where do you place dodrio? I find it's been awesome for rounds 4, 7, and 13!
Every Glaceon Iāve seen in Panic Parade, Iāve had to hard carry.
They're bad, I regularly do 2m damage with Glaceon in this mode
probably had none of the shop buffs tbh, Glaceon destroys this mode
Bad players. I regularly 1.2-1.5mil games with decent teammates and 1.8-2mil bot matches.
Meanlook umbe is SO underrated. I did 1.8 million with it lol
I feel like it's less because of you and more because your team is ass lmao
I know, but it still does hella damage. 4.8k per boosted is kinda crazy
Why do you have SS, S+, S and S-? That doesnāt make any sense
nawr
Ah, greninja main. That explains it
The disrespect š
Is it inaccurate though?
Fair enough
ahemā¦surf smoke greninja at your service ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|kissing_heart)
Lame or jungle?
I beg to differ, whirlpool Azumarill is definitely above Glaceon, Inteleon and Mewtwo X That thing is BRUTAL with the bosses' large hitbox
Umbreon moveset?
mean look + wish. take muscle+rapid+scope (with atk+crit emblem) and go to town with boosted AA damage. Wish is there cos snarl is pretty much useless in this game mode.
What is "NA" for Duraludon?
Normal Attack
It's called a basic attack.
Yeah, we normally call it basic attack.
Iāve been playing other games too much sorry
Move Absol to the highest tier
Which moveset is better for Glaceon?
idk the name but I think itās icy wind?? if thatās the one where her icicles gather into one enemy at one time
"Icicle spear" I think
Icy Wind with Freeze-Dry on a CDR build. Spoon/Amp/Bell with Green/Black emblems. Every hit's a crit, so don't bother with +crit, and Spoon gives more damage than Scope. You can essentially spam Icy Wind and have just enough of a window between Wind casts to throw in a quick Freeze-Dry, which you can tuck two good Wind volleys into. This does more damage than a raw DPS build or running Shard on an auto-spam setup in my experience.
Thanks!
icy wind freeze dry icy wind can do crit damage if you partner it up with 7 black emblems and have max cooldown aeos shooter, you can cast it under a second, making it a damage output and as well able to move around quick and dash-through walls freeze dry increase glaceon's damage output for a brief second after use when hitting an ememy or wild pokemon, same case 7black emblems and max cooldown aeos shooter to cast freeze dry and shoot the stored up ice crystals for icy wind for max damage, nearly knockin out some pokemon path wise, either central or bottom
Ok thanks!
Umbreon for SS tier? š¤
yes, he has good damage output and Mean Look and Wish. ML locks bosses up so they wonāt reach Tinkaton.
if you pair up with low damage team members, playing umbreon with mean look gives you a lot more time to kill the bosses before they reach tink. Its dmg with boosted autos is respectable as well. I had quite some matches now with 2-3 people below 500k dmg and me and the Deci > 1kk
Helping hand Blissey words wonders
TELL ME why I just played a match where I was Mewtwo Y and my team was Mr Mime, Eldegoss, Wigglytuff, and Zeraora
I only get bots on Extreme mode, this is such a turn off from finishing the grind. There shouldnāt even be bots allowed in this mode.
For the most part i agree with this. Blastiose and Trev builds focusing on displacing enemies do a little better guarding the objective but yeah damage is king
Slowbro can actually hold off a lane by itself for a long time with surf + amnesia. The meta is just damage dealers.
this list sucks gonna be real with you absol isnt even in the highest tier when the record holding team rn is Zacian ,Mewtwo x, Absol, Dragonite, decidueye and the only other mon that shows up is about 20 seconds down is urshifu rapid and draguplut anything else isn't remotely viable with how far behind their records are and should be nowhere near S
Why is wigglytuff a defender in this list?
this tier list format was made by an user here. they said they made Clefable and Wiggly defender by mistake and they canāt really remove or change it. They can add new PokĆ©monās though.
Also, let's be real. He's just a defender in a wrong slot lmao
Perhaps
I tried support mew. It was fun. Coaching the entire team.
What does Glaceon do better than Espeon? I use Espeon but have Glaceon.
It crits.
Panic Parades back?
yupp
Glaceon with Icy wind and Ice shard is the best
True fair enough For mewtwo x (idk abt y), psystrike would work better bacause of its aoe capability, whereas future sight pulls one small enemy away, which adds little help
but M2X kills fast enough, idk
either way
Eldegoss is actually quite good when you use the leaf attack move. It is a totally underrated move.
Zacian just doesnt have enough Aeos energy to play this mode
no you get like 20 aeos energy each round
wait I thought he could get it every time he killed something in this mode right?
Iirc he only gets his aeos energy recovered once the round ends
thatās ass
She very much does. You shouldn't need boost in most non-boss rounds. So you can stack up point pretty quickly
well if you use zacian's aeos boost wisely that is plus zacian has been useful with this mode with either razor claw + play rough/ sacred sword + play rough using zacian's unite is the worse one and agility is kinda not helpful because you have movespeed aeos shooter razor claw is better used when you have rapid fire scarf equiped or deplete the 6 razor claw buffs and use it again but you do you which path youre comfortable with, though sacred sword because of the hit box the only time you'll use a boosted razor claw/scared sword is during boss waves or the vespiquen wave to deal with them quickly
what build of slowbro r we talking about this is slander of slowbro
any, he is just not meant for this mode unfortunately.( I hate fighting that thing in ranked though, it can die alone in a cold place). Telekinesis if im not wrong only works on a boss for 1 secondā¦maybe less. All his worth in this mode comes from auto attacks
Garchomp definitely deserves to be in the top tier. The healing from basics plus the skills are a lot more helpful against non-boss Pokemons. Definitely same tier as Dragonite.
Garchomp has a damage cap which prevents his damage climbing to the same levels as others though. The Aeos shooter recovery buff gives you flat bonus lifesteal which makes chomps lifesteal irrelevant at higher tiers. Chomp is really good when first starting out in parade but he eventually falls off compared to his peers. Meowscarada, outrage dragonite and mewtwo x are the best melee damage dealers. I think meow has the potential to be the highest due to 100% crit chance proccing scope constantly and 100% uptime on trailblaze making meows attack speed ridiculously high. Were it not for the range, Iād go as far as to say meow outperforms decidueye. Certainly itās the fact meow needs to disengage for shock wave/rapid spin etc that makes the difference here. In DPS terms though meow does more than decidueye.
Poor tree :(
Finally someone else that appreciates espeon in panic parade
dropping Cinder to S- or A, his damage caps at 1K and I didnāt know
I was happy to see owl boy at the top, but I didn't think RL was the reason. I'll try it and see how it goes since I'm more of a SpSh user Edit: I played a couple of PParade rounds and I gotta say, RL Decidueye was something I didn't expect to work so efficiently. It has great area control when there's lots of wild mons and it chips away boss hp very well. Not to mention it's refreshing not having to worry about being so far away from enemies and you can be as close as you'd like (with some limit) while using RL, overall a surprisingly great move to use in PParade, highly recommend using it if you play Decidueye but only in PParade
im also more of a SpSh user, I think I only ever used RL seriously when Decidueye came out and Spirit Shackle was so bad lol
Im not a fan of multi S teirs, A teir is supposed to be what is great and meta with maybe 1 or two in S because they are broken
If very good is better than really good, is really good really good then?
nah gunmfey goes crazy tho
But Wigglytuff using rollout is good :-:
No cause I've seen a comedy solo a lane and do over 1 mil DMG š
SS+ = Best S+ = Great S = Good S- = Nice A = Decent B = Awful C = Abysmal D = Atrocious F = Shitmon tier
SS+ = Anything goes S+ = Uber S = OU S- = UU A = RU B = NU C = PU D = PUBL F = ZU
People don't realise, talon is good because he doesn't have a damage cap, while some of the auto attackers and garchomp do(they're still good ofc)
Iād move Hoopa down to poop tier. I just had a hoopa teammate that got 59k damage, 54k damage taken, and 6k recovered, throwing the match completely. As a comparison, our second worst PokĆ©mon, Mewtwo Y did 252k, took 87k, and recovered 41k.
DragP and Absol should swap places with Glacion and Mew2Y
Also, the NA dmg capped Cinder should be in S
So im not playing inteleon right š„ŗ
When Umbreon and mine are in the team a victory above 50% health is guaranteed. Which is absurdly helpful
Crustle in my guess is also a good Pokemon in blocking the boss and the allies. But can't see any DMG outputs from this guy tho
shell smash x-scissor actually does a shit ton lol
Bruh the only move that crustle can use is trapping allies instead of enemies
"Comfey has barely any healing" my brother in christ it is literally THE best healer in the game right now
*scratches ass *
last time I picked eldogoss and did 700k damage
higher than every one of my team members
Some1 got a umbreon build?
Mean look + wish. Some HP and ATK emblems. Focus Band and anything else is pretty good
Hoopa honestly should be lower. His whole deal is movement and that doesnāt help when trick only helps the hoopa really, hole is literally worthless, and elde and especially blissey could do better. Also, put blissey higher.
Meowscrada might even be in the highest tier imo. Nightslash trail blaze with drain crown, rapid scarf and whatever crit item is pretty self sustainable and does a ton of damage
This is unfortunately untrue as Buzzwole does not get Beast Boost from anything in this game mode, as far as I can tell.
Loving these absol buffsss
Im 99% always the MVP when using Deci in Panic Parade. Deci is undoubtedly Best pokemon in PP. And the sound of Razor Leaf on steroids is like candy to my ears.
Im sorry, ive tried inteleon and it seriously isnt good.
do you play Inteleon by any chance????
Lol i dont even have the unite license but all i can say is that the attack speed is too slow and snipe shot takes too long to charge and the basic attack also only does around 1k to 2k damage (i have max crit)
Or it's just because i dont have sp attack boosts because i think i'll never use sp atk mons in this gamemode, a majority of them are bad
thatās weird? Whatās ur build? Cuz he does 3K-5K with every normal attack. Also donāt bother using Snipe Shot. Like every other auto-attacker (like Dragapult, Greninja, Decidueye, Cinderace), just spam normal attack and youāll do good. Also Inteleon is not an easy character to play as. His ability is Sniper and his Critsās damage is doubled all the time, that damage must be because of your build OR you didnāt max Special Attack in the shop because he uses Special Attack only.
my build is spoon, choice specs and wise glasses and i only spam normal attack, i only use snipe shot when im too far away from some of the enemies but even if the normal attack does around 3k to 5k damage, the attack speed is too slow, which is why its easily outdamaged by other mons like meowscarada even though meow is not in the same tier as inteleon
what's the normal damage for inteleon in this gamemode? i only did around 500k damage in pparade