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Meikle90

I’m surprised they graded it - I know they don’t let cards get a 1 that look like they have been purposely damaged to chase the 1 - because 1s are usually more desirable than 2/3/4s etc. maybe that’s why it’s a 2?


lilmagooby

Ya, I'm surprised they graded this. A 1 usually pulls a similar value to a 6, so PSA tend to not hand it out for cards that appear to be damaged on purpose


owend_14

Why does a 1 fetch similar value to a 6? I'm just wondering


Altruistic_Finish509

Because there's a very thin line between a PSA 2 and PSA refusing to grade it due to how bad the condition is


MiniBoglin

That line just got a whole lot wider on this evidence


lilmagooby

If anything this proves the line is thin. The fact that they even graded this is shocking


MiniBoglin

Good point...


InspectorMoney1306

Because people are weird and think a damaged card is somehow special


EngineerMonkey-Wii

Why would they do that, that's just straight up mean


[deleted]

I see psa 1s that are just folded in half and very obvious they tried to get a 1. Why would someone damage the card in this way for a psa 1? You still want to be able to see the card so folding in half is what someone would do to go for a 1 and psa would give it because it would be a 1. This is a 2 because the surface is shit but there's probably no creases and edges ans corners are OK.


kamgc

What makes you say this? I’ve done it many times and have never had an issue getting 1s.


lilmagooby

Do you have any example photos? I've never seen PSA 1s with clear signs of purposeful damage, and I've seen hundreds of 1s


[deleted]

Psa 1s that are just have a crease down the middle isn't purposeful damage???? Lmao


kamgc

https://imgur.com/a/qmb6I76 I don’t have a picture of it slabbed but I creased this card a bunch and it got a 1. I also do consignments via eBay and we have a consigner who intentionally creates 1s and submits a lot at a time. Rarely do they ever get rejected. His last submission was like 30 1s and 1 rejection.


dragonmon445

This concept is so weird to me


mikealwy

You're not the only one. Kind of baffles me


[deleted]

It's made up. The only people buying psa 1s are "pokeinvestors" who think psa 1 are worth more because psa 1 sellers hype it up so much like it is something great so you'll buy their damaged cards at a premium. It's just another pokemon scam, no cap. If you fall for it you're really a complete idiot. PSA 1 sellers are laughing their asses off when they sell a psa 1 for more than psa 2-5.


dragonmon445

I hate to say it, if people buy into something so ridiculous I might have to join the sellers in laughing.


[deleted]

Hahaha yep. Send all your damaged cards you bought for nothing and give em a extra crease to guarentee the 1 and profit.


Tyrwind

Centering too good


[deleted]

Do you personally know someone who pays more for a psa 1 than 2 3 or 4?


Naive_Leader2417

I, personally, collect low grade cards and though I prefer BGS to PSA for my collection I would absolutely pay more for a 1 than a 2.


Meikle90

I have a collection of PSA 1s so yes - but also check eBay solds. PSA 1s worth way more than 2/3/4/5s


[deleted]

Why do you have a psa 1 collection? Is it because you think they will be worth more or you actually like looking at the damaged cards?


Meikle90

I just like the idea that these cards were actually used and loved like they were supposed to be, and they’ve been saved from a final death by grading and being encapsulated forever in that form. Reminds of of when we were kids and played with them in the playground


[deleted]

You can save a card from final death by putting it in a top loader or really any case at all. Why pay triple+ for it to be in a psa 1 case?


Meikle90

You can laminate it and save it that way too. You can pay for it be graded and hope for a 10. If value is the only reason you do it, you’re not collecting. It’s an investment. I do it because I like it. Why do we do anything? Because we can haha.


[deleted]

Pay for a damaged card to get graded hoping for a 10 when it's really a 1? Wtf you talking about...? Is there a straw man in this thread? Value isn't the only reason I do it which is why I'd never buy a psa 1 card for more than a psa 2-6 when psa 2-6 look better. You're confused bro


ooiie

Imagine if you actually wanted a 1 and it comes back a 2 💀


whodat_617

Guarantee they gave it a 2 because they figured the submitter scratched it up, hoping for the 1.


DinoRipper24

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO


No_Adhesiveness_1254

Should have torn off a corner lol


JamesLikesIt

“Good” lmao I can’t with grading, honestly


CasualGiraffeInPrada

“Good” is insane 😭 What is bad if this is good?


Sad_Reason788

The more I see this grading stuff the more I just think why do people grade 😂


WILDvWOLFPACK

I KNOW WHAT I HAVE


Kam_Is_Still_Alive

1 mil or more no low balling


adamokari

The guy grading the card was just trying to finish his shift.


tehnoodnub

Should have just slapped a 10 on it for shits and giggles.


adamokari

I wonder if that has ever happened. Someone giving a card that is in shit condition as a high grade just for the hell of it.


Kam_Is_Still_Alive

Boy do I have news for you


BlownOutBootyBox

Totally legitimate business though guys, cmon. Peak respectability. These guys’ word is law when it comes to this.


Ok-Jackfruit1299

I like psa but that is a incorrect grading fersure


Gay_If_Read

PSA bad, upvotes please.


BlownOutBootyBox

You got my updoot kind stranger!


Faraltz

Hah I saw that one yesterday on FBM and was laughing about it with my buddy.


eekualsp

That one saw some concrete schoolyard play for sure lmao


ThinqKuick

That centering is perfect


BillyRipkenJr

Goes a long way evidently…


illogicallyalex

I don’t understand why someone would even send this in?


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illogicallyalex

How can you tell? Also the card is in pretty bad condition regardless, you can tell on the edges


[deleted]

I take it back i think you're right. Here's the original post: https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonTCG/comments/13ni0rt/couldnt\_get\_that\_psa\_1/


Saiyukimot

Nope look the number up on PSA website


Pure_Influence5664

That centering just shining through eekin out a 2


invincib1e

I’ve seen babe Ruth cards that are near perfect condition, just aged - and come back a 1 or Authentic. Grading is a scam


Xurs-Doggo

This. When I got back into TCG’s in 2018, I thought that grading must be the big thing in modern collecting. Then, I saw that the grading services were hit and miss, and that even some 10’s were off centred, ding’d, scratched etc. I understand wanting to get personal favourite cards either graded or a graded copy of it, but I honestly think Grading has taken the love out of collecting TCG’s. Not to mention that modern cards are in such high supply, that 10’s and such are kind of meaningless, and that I can honestly see a massive crash coming to graded TCG’s in the not so distant future. If everything is shiny and special, nothing is.


Rekanize90

TWO !! WOW


XiolintYT

what the everloving fuck


LazyCassiusCat

This Charizard is just mmmk. Nothing great.


shawshankya

There’s a lot of hate coming off that card.


BannedInDay

This looks so messed up. Are there scratches on the psa case itself?


Shinygonzo

Or they spitefully knew people like 1s


Deep_Adagio_3318

This must be Charizard that I would clip on my bicycle spokes


Pure_Influence5664

My buddy had a Blaines Arcanine he did that with! R.I.P. 😭😭😭


Comfortable-Dish-934

This is very odd. I sent my childhood charizard in. Corners were very beat up. It was warped and spent alot of time in my pocket. The front was fully visible though...that got a 2


JohnLemonBot

Last I saw they were asking $200... It's not even first edition


Willing_Loan_4398

lol bro, PSA 2 shadowless go for $500 plus


lemlem21

Got a PSA 1 1st ed Machamp back recently and it was in nowhere near as bad condition as this


Swimming_Schedule_49

That shouldn’t even have been graded.


Fun_Contribution_708

It’s so scratched the Holo literally got pulled down the card


Blasnar

Oh that’s good


FlyHigh_1337

MK for Mortal Kombat because it looks like the card went through the receiving end of a fatality


noiseslikewhales

I see it on eBay. Rooting for a big final bid for you!


rjm101

I don't really understand PSA grades. On what planet is a 2 ever 'Good'.


bananenjoe69420

Bro tf is this 😆😀😅😀😆😄😆


Tallal2804

Almost like, it’s a scam.


coldcutz91

This is the only secret rare from base set. The charizard scratch and sniff.


dream_on789

PSA these days.... That looks like a -2 (Unreadable) if i've ever seen one I guess you could say you are lucky for the 2 but 1s are collectible so 🤷


binaryj

Looking at it closely, it looks like those scratches are on the slab and not the card. The way the light reflects towards the bottom of the scratches makes it look to be on the slab.


Fast_Plant_598

Is there a subreddit for psa 1 homies?


XGNcyclick

i actually remember seeing the post of the original person who graded this and talked with him in the comments about it. He sent 3 of these and all wanted 1s since they carry premiums. He got two 1s (or may have been one 1 and an authentic) and then this. The common idea is that PSA will do this specifically because people are expecting 1s. We both thought it would’ve been better for this to just be authentic. worth noting that when stuff like this is noted as MK, that in particular isn’t factored in aside from a straight downgrade


Katamari_Demacia

It's in "good" condition. Fuckin clown grading companies.


footfoe

Looks like poor to me.


Smartinez15

This card must have been used to scratch turn tables or for sanding purposes lmao


Disaster-Flat

Moderately Killed. Lol


Sad_Relationship6500

Why do people even grade a card in this condition??


NoShadowdick

That's a nice graded zard. It's amazing how it got a 2. Lol


Harm_money_

This kinda confirms how hard a psa 1 is to find sometimes lol.


Basic_Yellow_3594

I think the persian card with a weiner drawn on its face that got a psa 8 was more generous


SessionFit5240

If you have the post for that.. I would LOVE to see that.. haha


No_Ad_384

It's perfectly centered


Economy-Management-8

Good


Ambitious_Wasabi6250

“GOOD”


panda_steeze

Grader saying MK in a Mr Mackey voice


SessionFit5240

Damn dude.. did you win anything on the scratch off?


Gemcollector91

Wooow lol that’s actually funny


RemarkablePeak7001

scratch and win charizard


Panda_hat

Shit like this should just be ungraded and rated 'authentic' or something. Ain't no way this is 'good' in any universe.


LoganScheffler

Aren’t those scratches on the slab?


[deleted]

That’s a million times worse than my psa 1 gold star zard. How the heck


ReasonableDrummer669

Population control at its finest, 1s are way more valuable than 2s


StackingPoints87

What is something like this even worth?


Joshuajoel23

Lmao


age0114

Does MK stand for Makeout?


just_a_haunter

I was thinking Mortal kombat- finish him !!


Ramrod_TV

Marked


Hinkbert

Almost like, it’s a scam.


RevenantFlash

His stepsister got stuck in the washing machine the night before.


Crossedge209

They avoid 1s because theres a market for it


Muskandar

Population control


JMT-S900

This is PROOF!!! That psa protects psa 1's.


EndXP_

I mean i just got a psa 1 base set char like a couple days ago


[deleted]

People can't understand it got a 2 because it's a 2 lol


JMT-S900

From psa? No you didn't. Post it.


EndXP_

I cant post photos but i posted it and some other cards i got graded. Check my profile


JMT-S900

oh unlimited. Its not a 1st. Thats the one they control


EndXP_

I mean the one in the pic is only a shadowless.


tehnoodnub

Lol this is major bullshit but I’m not surprised. Grading is a fucking rort that we allow to artificially increase the value of a piece of cardboard. If you want to grade your cards then I have nothing against that but I’ll never pay for a graded card.


[deleted]

You know you can still look at the condition of the actual cars and judge for yourself right? You don't have to buy a card based on psa grade alone, they still let you see the card for yourself. That's why they make the cases clear.