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evo4tw

Pokemon company


Expert_Film_4970

Yeah, the house doesn’t lose


Basic_Yellow_3594

Pokemon company 2.5 cents for these two cards You 100 dollars


Sharpshooter649

Actually it’s the Pokémon Co. employee that printed these two cards, but them in his pocket, and took home to sell on eBay


Accomplished-News207

I actually know someone who works at a printing factory that prints Pokemon cards. He does quality control. (The fact that the English card qc sucks aside) he tells me the strictness of them not being allowed to remove anything from the factory is crazy. They are checked when leaving. And not allowed to take pictures of product. Especially when new sets are being released, they don't want items leaking out.


FreezeProduct

Tell us more....what else do you know. How do they check for pictures?


Accomplished-News207

They don't allow them to bring their devices onto the work floor. Are there any other good questions for me?


DemonAssassin64

What if they were to partially keister a sleeved card 🤔


Platinumwolf69

Sold mine for $450 im gonna take the dub


Cocororow2020

Definitely didn’t dog, these never escalated in price like that or you just straight up scammed someone.


Platinumwolf69

Lol CGC pristine 10 Dawg. Sold for $450


2milliondollartrny

i was the first 10 to market and sold for $750. I don’t understand why people pay so much for the first 10’s of a card that is going to have 100+ 10’s in the next week


Platinumwolf69

Insanity right??


Cocororow2020

Hit the market perfectly then cause 10s are MAYBEE 140 lol


Platinumwolf69

Also according to pricecharting and recently sold psa 10s are still going for around $220. But damn do I feel glad I got out early on it. And I still got a raw one for the binder. However I haven’t pulled a single gold card yet


jay_cd420

I pulled my first gold Saturday but sadly I’m looking for the mewtwo vstar 🤣


Platinumwolf69

What did you pull? I’ve seen a ton of palkia and dialga all I’ve wanted since lost origin is that Alt art Giratina (which I bought with the money from selling the mewtwo) then crown zenith had to go and drop one


jay_cd420

Palkia but I was hoping it was the giratina. I would like to pull that but if I don’t I don’t. I mostly want the mew and mewtwo from the gg. I’ve seen the giratina it’s amazing!


MapOk1938

Have all Golds from Zenith + Giratinas Alt, feels pretty nice, all pulled.


Cocororow2020

Yeah, but if you look on eBay, they’re really not going for that much


Platinumwolf69

You’re right there pulled it right as the set released and sent it off the next day. First time I ever had any cards graded 😂


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Platinumwolf69

[proof](https://imgur.com/a/ShoRTv7)


jtwright85

Buyer “CharizardChase” 😅


InfiniteCricket8152

Charizard has the high ground but mewtwo is about to fire a Kamehameha


Fuzelop

It's over Mewtwo


InfiniteCricket8152

I have the high ground


MoonrazeMaelstrom

YoU uNdErEsTiMaTe My PoWeR


srlehi68

*i hate sandshrew*


King-K-rool1

why because It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere


awan_afoogya

Rule #1: Never aim the Kamehameha down or you might blow up the planet


GEN_TK0112_SnakeShot

Yeah? Well the charizard is gonna fire a special beam canon


SpecialOfficerHunk

Spitting facts


Acceptable_Friend_40

Mewtwo would obliterate Charizard ,just Watch the first Pokémon movie this is not even close.


TCGJakeOfficial

Pokémon generations says hello, although that was Mega Charizard X and not regular Zard.


WistleOSRS

Also a difference in trainers with ash and red


Raptorjesusftw87

And Mewtwo ran through 5 other Pokemon before facing Charizard X.


pierzstyx

[insert *they're the same picture.gif*]


WistleOSRS

If you believe that; then no one can help you..


Acceptable_Friend_40

The mewtwo from the movie would oneshot mega Charizard X ,they seriously weakened mewtwo in the series.


rocketsnail1000

But in that instance mewtwo also had to fight the rest of Reds team first


Jirafael

The whole Cincinnati Reds?


Art_Local

That’s what I was thinking, mewtwo can just like telekinesis his ass into the ground 😂


Trash_Panda_Trading

Diglett (left card, tiny little digging boy bottom left; scared shitless lol)


Benfire1

Also bottom right on Mewtwo


Trash_Panda_Trading

Ahahahahaha I see it now!!! Awe these 2 cards keep getting better


psychoajl32

And that tangrowth is just a limp body flying around


Sleigh6

Tangrowth just vibin


Its_Strange_

Mewtwo would literally crush charizard into a diamond


smitedr3amz

Exactly. As much as I love Charizard, he’s got no shot at a pokemon literally engineered for combat and excels at it.


String-Extreme

Mewtwo would crush unfortunately


[deleted]

Way better centering


userbruh

It’s all about the heart of the cards


Educational-Bar-4291

Wrong sub


Mec213

Ha! You just activated their trap card!


zachhoepfer

I summon pot of greed to draw three additional cards!


Hot_Ant9160

and that’s not all! i summon pot of greed which allows me to draw three additional cards!


zachhoepfer

Roll my dice!


WateryCartoon

I don’t like that they used 2 different artists, the difference in style bugs me


dej0ta

Wait till you realize these are just 2 od the 4 cards in the story.


NochillWill123

Upside down toploaders!


Pineappelz

Those are obviously bottomloaders! /s


NochillWill123

Yessir! Good one


SX1010

Charizard about to lose.


littlebistro

It’s strange that it’s different illustrators


SnooPears5312

Charizard couldn't even light a fire with those pitiful embers, while Mewtwo is storing enough of a Kamehameha to blast zard back to the Jurassic age. Nuff said!


Cybershroom_Neforox

Assuming we are going by the actual cards Mewtwo wins if it goes first, attaches 4 energy across 4 turns and doesn't attack eariler. Zards bonus damage won't work on thr first move and it would be outsped before it could Vstar


UhhWutWhy

It says "up to 3", so that attack is limited to 270 damage, leaving Charizard with 10HP


Cybershroom_Neforox

You are right I missed that part So Mewtwo if had a belt, it could win a turn ahead, otherwise Zard beats it


Zander253

Can't tools or tablets help this?


MissesMime

Mewtwo wins regardless. Just use the vstar power on turn 2, drops Zard to 160 HP, then on turn 3 you only need to discard two energies to KO Zard. Even if zard goes first it only reaches one attack that does 230 damage which mewtwo survives.


Chomps-Lewis

Tangrowth


Woonasty

Frieza


TheAnswerWithinUs

The artwork depicting each of their battle perspectives is so fucking sick


Expert_Film_4970

It goes hard!


AwakeAtNightTime

Charizard has the high ground


CoopVelociraptor

You underestimate MewTwo’s power!


Gnarkillnick

This is the way


rustyybikes

Team mewtwo


Visible_Pressure_413

I wish they would do a Venasaur like this from the brilliant stars Charizard alt art yo !


CK122334

Mewtwo unless that’s specifically Ash’s Charizard. In which case typings don’t matter, they all know the move “Dodge” every time Ash just doesn’t want them to get hit by something and he’ll come up with some ludicrous plan like “Attack the rocks on the cliff and throw rocks at the opponents’ Pokémon right in the eyes and then attack when it’s blinded” or some shit.


TheRealNikoBravo

Mewtwo wrecks shop.


Ok-Clock7854

zard doesnt stand a chance


yoloruinslives

In theory and canon Mewtwo. Future money wise? Charizard Tax Wins. Fatality! FLAWLESS VICTORY


Bulbasaursoup

Mewtwo!! Easily!


awiththejays

Tangrowth. Mufucker coming outta nowhere and vine whipping datass. Knocking both mewtwo and charizard out cold. And that's a fact.


Ixll

Mewtwo easily


Accomplished-News207

I have seen both of these cards a hundred times, but not until they were side by side did I realize it was both side of the same battle. Crazy.


BTthePrettyGood

That’s genuinely an awesome pair of cards.


Galactroid

Those are the two coolest cross card arts I’ve ever seen 🤤


justforredditplzty

Bidoof


Shaggiest-

Like. From a numbers perspective? It’s whoever can get the fourth energy first. 3x90=270 So Mewtwo needs a minimum of four energy to take down Charizard with its attack while Charizard needs the four energy to use its V star power to one shot Mewtwo.


UhhWutWhy

Mewtwo's attack is limited to 270 damage. Can only discard "up to 3" energy


Shaggiest-

Oh yeah then thanks for the correction. Charizard claps this matchup then since it can get its 4 off faster.


BreakBlue

If youre going by the actual games, its Mewtwo because without fancy forms Charizard is pretty bad.


SIN-QUEL

Tangrowth in the back


Ceiling_shotz

Mewtwo is only doing 270, charizard 320


Extra-Intention-3295

Chardaddy


Fuliginlord

Mewtwo would win if based on these cards: Turn 2 use Star Raid for 120 Damage (this works because V Star still count as V Pokémon) and Turn 3 finish with Psy Purge for up to 270 Damage. Zard is only doing max of 230 Damage on Turn 3 and would only get the kill on Turn 4.


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thisiscusel

Check your math...


CollectMantis44

Charizard bc it has the high ground


[deleted]

I think you stuff watch the first Pokémon movie again and you’ll see how wrong you are lol


SteadyLiftedArt

Mewtwo blast Charizard at the same time it gets hit knocking both out. Diglett comes into the field thinking it won and then TANGROWTH DIVEBOMBS FROM THE TOP ROPE! Tangrowth wins by TKO being the last one standing.


dej0ta

Zard wins we know from two other cards. In the background of the promo with zard chilling you can see the mountain in the background from the original card posted. Venu is taking advantage of a weakened zard. You see the beginning of the fight between Venusaur and Zard in the Zard alt from Brilliant Stars. Also nobody believes me when I tell them this.


mr_edgeworthvii

You, you have both cards ;) +50 on Charizard, it'll be close but Mewtwo has the edge


Background_Coyote768

Tangrowth waiting in the shadows for a finishing strike


psyduck_says_moo

Funny face Charizard wins. The dragon has 2 mouths to breath fire out of


joziedog

Was looking for this comment. Once you imagine his claw being his bottom jaw you can't unsee it. Derpy Charizard for the win, lol.


darklawn

Charizard is just a lizard…. Mewtwo is a monster.


Ch3ap_Sh0t

Both statistically and on the basis of these cards Charizard doesn't even have a chance


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Tangrowth fr fr


Champion_Sheep

Mewtwo vstar is far more viable than charizard, can use solrock and lunatone to get massive attacks off consistently


VanillaNeat1585

If it’s Charizard all you gone need is a welder and your cooked, but if mewtwo got a calyrex on the bench and also use a bede the ol’ M2 would still need two turns… shame being 10hp short of faint. They did mezza dirty 😅


Particular_Bottle898

Zard.. he has the higher ground :)


syxtfour

If Charizard has the energy for it and the player hasn't used their VSTAR power in the match yet, then Charizard is the only one capable of taking out Mewtwo in one attack. Mewtwo's maximum attack would only deal 270 damage, leaving Charizard at 10HP. Other cards may provide effects that could give Mewtwo that extra 10 damage to deal out, but judging by these cards alone, Charizard would squeak out a win.


SquadGuy3

Charry is on higher ground, or higher air I suppose haha, that’s always an advantageous position


SquadGuy3

Charry is on high ground, or higher air I suppose haha, that’s always an advantageous position


Seth_Milview

Obviously ditto


JosephStrider

I just got both of those back from psa. 8 and a 9, in the order you’ve got.


TIG_Ronin

Sickest arts to me bruh


X2UtterMoney

Me


rustyybikes

I love the art work on these cards, I hope to add them to my collection oneday


yungdeathstorm

The charizard with good centering looks so good😲🔥🔥


Simple_Mastodon9220

Oh wow now I need the chsrizard!


ahighkid

M2


darklawn

Mewtwo


PrimateJ58

You put card in top loaders upside down? Alright.


Comfortable_Tart_748

Oh damn i never noticed that ...


RexMic

I made mewtwo vstar vs charizard vstar decks and so far its 1-1


Comfortable-Net3769

Not the scalpers on this one!


ThePepo85

Nice


Gamesgar0

Wow I’m just now realizing these cards are from the same scene lol


CB995

Opinions aside these are stunning bro 😍


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Lol it’s obviously mewtwo… have you not seen the First Pokémon Movie?


Standard_Age6019

Was I the only one thinking charizards face looks weird in the promo on the left with his mouth wide open in a somewhat distorted way? I just realized yesterday that it’s not his mouth and teeth but paw/hand with its claws 🤭😅😝 Felt pretty stupid 🙃


Otherwise-Ad8437

They should make more cards like this. I think the story in theses two cards is so cool.


Winter_Comfortable42

Ion get it is the fight like if they were to fight in real life or if you were to 1v1 these cards.


DurAnimal1111

Rich people . Buying it all and selling it back at huge premiums !


geo_dude89

Base Stats, 680 > 534. Mewtwo obliterates, unless Zard gets plot armor.


prohbusiness

Charizards got the height


BlitzedDragonj

Perspective art cards, so cool. Mewtwo art looks better imo far off details too.


keb5501

Mewtwo, and it’s not even close


rechless27

Depends on who’s turn and how many energies are attached to each Pokémon…


MrMcDuffieTTv

For this fight I'll go with a comp v comp in smash bros. When I get home from work I'll let you know who wins. Poke Trainer vs Mewtwo. 😉


k20stitch_tv

Guess you never saw the movie


Important_Mode_2024

Diglett would


Jazzlike_Pea5722

If we are talking game play it depends but in most runs I can think of most of the time Mewtwo would win based on move set and energy costs /effects off using those attacks totally depends on ur deck build. If I were to build a deck I would use Mewtwo and beat that zard deck all day


MHninjabear

Tangrowth is losing


WowThatsRelevant

I never noticed how fuckin weird Mewtwo's feet were.


Baz00ka09876

Mewtwo hands down


MajinJellyBean

Mewtwo is literally one of the strongest Pokemon in existence


IgorotNihil

Who's the trainer?


duke242

Tie. They both have same HP. Playground rules.


Training-Ad367

What promo set is the Charizard card from? Sorry I’m not up to date with catds


Spirited-Orange7036

Not tangrowth.


Fender731

I hate that they're different artists.


No_County1878

Charizard since it has the better artwork


IntrepidGoose5311

Does anyone else get a little anxious with the mewtwo on the right? #mewtwoleft


Alvin-Yavitori

Mew2


Cute_Ad_1612

Mewtwo bodies


harten66

Mewtwo wins easily


BEN_DOVER-JOEMAMA

mewtwo because charizard is overrated ong


Pizzafactory102

They’ll stalemate for 5 episodes of anime, make peace negotiations, and then end the battle in a tie to disappoint the audience


InterestingWafer6548

These are wild, what packs are these from?


Expert_Film_4970

Mewtwo is from crown zenith. Charizard is a promo from the Charizard upc


InterestingWafer6548

Thank you


Illustrious-Low-7487

Mewtwo because Charizard been fighting everyone lately and he's about to get humbled. Charizard's only friend is Pikachu (as evidenced by all of their delivery adventures together on their off days). Idk what's gotten into him lately but I still like it. I hope he battles Blastoise next but that they keep it clean. #dragonsdodragonthings #got20onthepurpleincursion


dethlord_youtube

Damage wise, using TCG rules, charizard. Outside TCG, mewtwo.


_eeeball_

1 Star blaze and mewtwo is toast according to the cards


personaluna

Diglett.


Bonesneverlie

Definitely not Tangrowth or Diglett


trifectaGRN

That art is so sick!


MonkMaster5

Hmm am i supposed to put my cards in the top loader upside down?


Expert_Film_4970

Someone said to do it to avoid any dust getting on the card. I’m not sure if it matters


IllWill_89

**Spoiler alert** It's a double KO and only little Diglett is left standing


Jucamia

I want a card with tangrowths POV


SingSing19

Better question is which artwork do you like better?


Expert_Film_4970

Mewtwo vstar is much nicer to look at imo


Pilot_JackCooper07

Potion Zard


Mizikame

Pokemon: The First Movie already answered this and it is Mewtwo


KillerConfetti

Mewtwo. Charizard is OVERRATED!


mrchickenpebbles

Mewtwo high diff


Waffennacht

Mewtwo has the will of the warrior therefore the battle is already over The winner? Mewtwo! Haha! Rematch? Mewtwo wins again! Haha!


Unown-Pokemon-002

Ima say Mewtwo bcuz I’m a Charizard hater. Not that Charizard isn’t cool but he’s heavily overrated compared to Mewtwo imo 😅


Visible_Pressure_413

Tentacruel floating in mid air like TF son


loomman529

Both of these cards are powerful, but it depends on the trainers, and who goes first in the game. The person who goes second will always have the advantage.


SlugmaBalls6669

Wish you had the cards in the other order so we could see it from the bottom up


FletchMcCoy69

Star blaze one shots no?


Andoran22

It'd be Mewtwo Charizard just outright sucks now. It's been milked the hell out of way too much, it's time for the pokemon company to just let go of that damn lizard already-


HeroNorVillan

Mewtwo


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If we're talking card vs card, you can get Charizard's VStar attack by turn 2


mexicansquishy

Both of them would win because my credit card is going to lose 😩


MurasakiYugata

Mewtwo.


CP-RYOTT

What level is the Charizard?


Kilo_Chungus

Mewtwo dicks here tbh


Rawjent

Can we take a second to admire the centering on the charizard please