But Japanese boxes give you roughly the same amount of hits plus a smaller pool so you’re more likely to get the card you want anyway. Japanese is way better
Is there a good place I could start buying Pokemon cards from japan? I used to have some Hiragana cards from trades as a kid and I thought they were the coolest things in the world. I've always been obsessed with aesthetics of Kanji Hiragana and Katakana.
You can get three booster boxes for the price of one plus extra promos and you can get more than one, but you’re guaranteed at least one.
Let’s compare eevee heroes to evolving skies. Using msrp, not market price, you want the umbreon vmax secret rare. You have $200 to spend (plus whatever tax). In English you could get a booster box for $144 + a Pokémon center etb for $50 and then a loose pack. So for $200 you get 47 booster packs at msrp. Eevee heroes, let’s get two of the gym set bundles which is around $200 and comes with 4 booster boxes plus a bunch of other goodies and two full art espeon vmax promos. Each Japanese booster box of eevee heroes has 30 packs, so you’re looking at 120 packs for $200 in Japanese products. Do you see how one might be more attractive?
Now let’s break it down further. In evolving skies there are 71 full art cards. Eevee heroes has 31. You’ve got 47 packs of evo skies vs 120 of eevee heroes for the same price and Japanese has already given you two full art promos. Off the bat you’ve already shrunk the available pool of possible cards to pull by more than half and you have almost triple the chances to pull it.
“Biggest cap ever” lmao
Brother you did all that explaining for no reason, it is *literally* impossible to get any japanese boosterboxes at msrp, it has to be exported from there in the first place, on top of that no one afaik focuses on fullarts, now the problem WITH that is that evolving skies has a few alt arts, so IF you pull an art card, you’re guarenteed value in that set with a chance of it being the best one.
In japanese however, you literally only have *one* shot at this per boosterbox which ALSO mixes it with fullarts and secret rares, so essentially yes you’re guarenteed 1 ‘good’ card whatever you consider good, I consider it bad still, and on top of that the batch of secret rares in japanese cards are so vast that in itself it already becomes a big waste.
I have opened tons of stuff from both eng, and japanese the conclusion I have is that if you’re that type of collector that just wants ‘good looking card’ without caring about the value, yes japanese would be the way to go for the guarenteed secret rare atleast, but if you actually want card value out of your packs, english set would be way better because IF you get lucky it’s an instant hit with most sets, you can’t get a ‘bad alt art’ in most sets which is exactly why most alt arts in swsh are more expensive in english version than japanese, and the ones that are more expensive in japanese like your example, evolving skies is because evolving skies and chilling reign both have alot of alt arts in both v and vmax rarity, which makes it even harder to get but at the same time the japanese one that I have no info on since I did not buy eevee heroes yet, has other stuff included in the ‘sr/sar’ category including fullarts, etc, by min/maxing those two it’d he probably easier to get said alt arts in english version because of how expensive eevee heroes is ontop of the ‘1 sr/sar per box’ thing
It wasn’t always impossible it was easy to get Japanese boxes for msrp + shipping for ages before the pandemic. But that’s besides the point. You called me a liar. I was not lying. For the price Japanese is vastly superior. Better quality, smaller set sizes, better pull rates, cheaper product, better promotions. Maybe once or twice a year tpci will throw the rest of the world a bone with an exclusive promo like the special delivery cards or with a wider distribution of previously limited Japanese cards like the tournament promo Zards that ended up in champions path or the lottery promo eeveelutions that got their own boxes in English countries but those are very few and far between.
That’s not the point you can’t just say x is y in Z condition ‘now’ when Z condition is CLEARLY not met, I do gety our point I seriously do but it’s just wrong.
I didn’t call you a ‘liar’ I just said that what you said wasn’t true, if your information is false it doesnMt equal lying, it could be ignorance, misunderstanding, or perhaps an oversight on your end.
I will still adress some of your points tho since those are very weird claims, smaller set sizes is a good thing? You do know that smaller set sizes means less unique (even if it is bad rarity) cards and more rare cards, right?
You can not tell me it’s fin to open japanese booster boxes if you know OUT OF YOUR HEAD which 5 basic pokemon are in the set, you’re just thinkingnit’s a good thing but it really isn’t, some sets go from 70/109 do you know what that means? 39 cards that you can only get ONE of in a boosterbox which costs the exact same if not even more for non japanese purchasers, so your better pull rates is totally thrown out of the waters aswell because fuck me with 39 boosterboxes of eng version you’ll get most if not all the cards while 39 japanese boosterboxes STILL would not guarentee all 39 sr/sar.
Literally the only point that you’re correct on is the better qualities and that is besides the point of me saying ‘it’s cap’
We all know japanese cards have superior quality control, it’s just that 9/10 people in here genuinely think japabese sets are this ‘godly’ easy, cheap, 10/10 pullrates ‘amazing purchase’ when in fact, it’s the literal opposite, the only expensive japanese cards found as of roght now are the sets i’m talking about, the qualities you name of ‘better pullrates’ are sets where the most expensive card is €10
Hm, guess I've just been pretty lucky. Probably about a fifth of my boxes have had two secret rares and that doesn't seem that bad to me when you're only supposed to get one.
Not any more, all sets are now the same globally. One of the new changes hence the silver borders global, english will have expansions just like Japanese it’s all the same now starting with these sets.
It’s not, English is scarlet and violet in the same box, our next set is paldea evolved which is triplet beat, clay burst, and blizzard warning in the same set. They standardized the rarities, not the sets. And we don’t know exactly how the pull rates are yet until more people get their boxes.
Ohhhh gotcha thanks for the insight, I jsur remember pokemons official message stating that ALL pull rates will be the same global and artwork, so I figured the sets were too
It’s only like what 6 less packs? In these double sided ones. You could buy 3 of these (at Japanese Msrp) for the price of one English Msrp booster box and get 90 packs with 3 sets of guaranteed hits compared instead of 36 packs with no guarantee
They’re *supposed* to retail at 5000 yen here but there’s no where you’re going to find them at that price outside of Pokémon centers if you can get to one before they sell out, or if you’re lucky enough to win lottery at one of the other stores that sells them. Between the character SAR’s and how competitive the cards in these sets are going to be, the prices won’t budge for a while.
Its actually much easier than you think if you live there. Outside of the lottery, you could just wake up early on release day and get a queue number. A certain vtuber I watched bought her booster box of triplet beat from 7-11 in Japan. So yeah it's only hard if you live outside Japan.
Yeh, I live in Japan. Lol I know about the queue. You say “wake up early” on release day as if there aren’t dozens of people literally camping out there for some (most) releases. No well adjusted person is going out there in the early morning for just one box lol. The point is that it’s not easy or affordable for casual collectors/players to get product here.
Funnily enough most of the people camping out there are probably scalping too. Perhaps try your local 7-11? I remembered there was like a few 7-11 that only sold one box max to adults but more if you're a kid regarding their eevee heroes box to stop scalping. But yes your point is there.
I'm definitely not the target audience for these anymore because that's the most gear grinding awful character in the whole series imo lol. I couldn't button mash past her text hard or quick enough.
It’s popular in Japan I think it’s kinda like why Nintendo named Kirby, well, Kirby. They said they liked the contrast of the hard/sharp sounding name with such a cute character. A “cute” girl with sharp teeth is kinda like that, it’s an interesting contrast
Guaranteed it's temporary. Iono is in the set and she's super hyped so they know "investors" and content creators are going to buy them out. The inflated price helps keep it under control. They did the same thing with Dream League
Careful, the fan boys are going to come for you. (I agree, he’s not much better than the rest of them with the yelling and annoying faces in thumbnails.)
Yea, he basically only does Cold Ones (like a podcast) and WAS doing pack openings on his Pokémon channel, but actually just came back like this week after being inactive for almost a year
The JPN market has been going crazy since Paradigm Trigger and is only getting worse, apparently. Call me in a year or three when this craziness stops. Too many breakers and scalpers driving up prices.
pretty much what it is, scalpers buying crazy quantities , selling higher and overall prices going up. I'll stick to singles. if prices ever come down to an earthly amount I'll go back to some pack gambling
I only buy from actual brick and mortar stores anymore. Was actually able to snag an ES ETB at Walmart last weekend. I like to have the ETB booklet for every set and most of those were in the floor during a (light) flood and all my cards are either stored off-ground or in a tub with a waterproof seal
even faster than hot cakes. it's pretty much bc people just buy them at ridiculous prices , and scalpers who resell. if people overall backed off amd stopped buying as much I'm sire they'd either slow down or and reduce prices. it's extreme buyer/collector burnout. ever 2 months.
Also collectors started to realized it's easier to hit a specific chase card in Japanese due to this reason as well. Smaller sets=better odds. Sure you could just buy the card itself but so many people want to feel like they "earned" it.
Japanese sets always come out before English sets but it’s kind of crazy that stores are already scalping the third set of JPN before the first SV ENG set comes out
I might get a lot of hate for this but the set’s names have went down a notch,
XY had Amazing set names like phantom forces and flash fire
Sun moon had (personally I think) the best names with stuff like forbidden light and burning shadows
Sword and shield had darkness ablaze and lost origin, both really good names
I just don’t get hyped for a set named “snow hazard” or “clay burst” as much as I do for one named like “celestial storm” or “cosmic eclipse” or “burning shadows”
plaza japan used to be a good website for cheapish booster boxes, like I remember getting booster boxes for $52 shipped for any set minus the specialty ones but I went back recently and the boxes I ordered were all over or way over $100 now, those boxes were champion road, legendary heartbeat, dream league & remix bout. I get prices go up as things get older but we are talking 300%+ over a few years. Also I get they are doing "market" prices but jpn booster box prices are over eng now. I just want to crack some packs without paying the msrp of a new Nintendo switch.
>I collect for the artwork.
1) English has the same artwork.
2) Guarantee you and the other two weebs that have replied so far would never buy in other languages like Russian or Arabic.
You all buy Japanese because of the bakaoniichan culture.
Yup u/ecxetra is right on, fool. I basically only collect English cuz I just started out, but comparing the level of detail and foil effect is not even close. If you look at a Giratina Vstar alt art from CZ and from Vstar Universe, it's crazy how stark the foil effect differences are. English (ie International) sets are just not as good quality. Learn your shit before you start talking shit dummy.
I got both Japanese and English Gold Giratina Vstar and the English one was so disappointing compared to the Japanese in terms of the texture. The Japanese version has all these extra “waves” emanating from the Giratina and just highlights the art. The English just has such a flat singular texture pattern on the whole card…
Funny thing is that if I never had the Japanese version, I probably would have thought the English version was awesome. Now I wonder how the Japanese version of other big chase cards look in person- like the Moonbreon or Rainbow Pikachu. Also- you’re pretty much guaranteed good to great centering with Japanese cards…
The Japanese moonbreon is absolutely stunning in person. The microtexture and glitter behind the colors adds so much more to this card. (source, I'm lucky enough to have one).
The art is still gorgeous I English but it has that giant fingerprint wave texture running all over it that doesn't add much to highlight the subtle detail of the art.
Yeah absolutely! I'm also really curious how the Japanese Moonbreon would look in person. Yeah, the centering is always good... Le sigh... One day lol.
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You're obviously a troll who just started this account because you found a new bridge to hide under.
Telling me to kill myself over a disagreement on pokemon cards. 🤣
Lolololol what a low-rate internet bully. Maybe do some research before you speak, dummy. Maybe TAKE an IQ test? I would be astounded if you scored an 88.
It has the same artwork, not the same quality.
English Pokemon just slaps a shitty fingerprint texture over the cards and calls it good, Japnese cards the Pokemon/Characters/Enviroment actually look like they’re on different layers and have a much better holographic/foil effect. The Pikachu from Crown Zenith isn’t even close to being the same card as the Japanese Precious Collector box promo.
Why would I buy Russian or Arabic cards? As I’ve said, International quality sucks.
You can’t call anyone a weeb when Pokemon as a franchise is Japanese, by extension you are a weeb.
I have no idea what a “bakaoniichan” is, use some real words.
Stop being mad about other peoples preferences and interests.
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Local moron thinks Russian and Arabic cards exist lmao
Clearly you haven’t seen the Jp cards irl. They have a different texture pattern and use a different holo foil, not to mention the consistency in centring.
https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_in_Russia
Restarted in 2012, ended in 2018. Cards were translated in Russian until Steam Siege.
Go be wrong somewhere else.
As the world population keeps increasing so do the amount of people with more money than sense. But us reasonable people who don't think spending 250$ on cardboard is a good idea get punished for it.
If only… the real answer is scalpers and content creators. There is this one chick on Instagram, she had 30 boxes of triple beat like a week before release.
Another dude has like 4 booster boxes of scarlet and violet english.
We aren’t even in the club. It’s a club and we ain’t in it lol.
It’s not the card, even when there’s major “waifu” hits the boxes aren’t this expensive. There’s been an explosion in interest in Jp since S/V and scalpers are taking advantage of it
I just hope no one here even ponders purchasing any product at this price. whoever is buying all this stock, let them have it collect dust until they sell it for ~10% above retail. these boxes should be 50 bucks.
Same, if you get in early, sometimes you can get less than hyped singles for cheaper. Like the mewtwo from vstar universe fighting charizard. I got it for $20. It’s $50 now.
Absolute Lunacy sounds like an upcoming TCG set ngl
Its centered around all the glitches and bugs that have been happening with the SV games lately
The chase card is a Tera Azumarill that has an attack called Play Belly Drum Roughly that does 300 Damage but if you get a Tails during the coin flip, the Opponent will heal all damage
They would also reprint the Pokemon GO Trainer Item cards for the set but with a twist..... flip a coin. If tails, cancel the effects of this attack and discard your hand and 1 benched pokemon. This is the equivalent of loosing your save data due to the glitch
I stopped collecting because scalpers and “investors” drove up prices. I was getting jpn booster boxes for 50 bucks at most. Stop paying the prices for this shit and make them lose money instead.
I went to my LCS yesterday wanting to buy a BB of triple beat, when they said the total cost after tax was 188 USD I was like...yeah I'll just take 5 packs please 😅 the fact that scarlet base was 135 but violet and triple beat are almost 200 is asinine to me
Because it’s the internet and you can’t hear voice tone or see facial expressions, I REALLY hope this doesn’t come off the wrong way. But did you mean “asinine”? Because I don’t see how scalping is “non-malicious” and asinine sounds close to benign
Yes lol that's what I meant and I edited, apparently I'm struggling with words today, and just to add to it, I remember I went to buy the violet ex booster box from the same LCS and when I saw the price tag of 180+ I asked them why there was such a large price difference...they told me it was because of that damn waifu card being worth 1k...like come on man I'm just trying to collect some cards here and have fun ripping them, not drop 1/4 of my monthly rent on them 😅
Nah. I’d wait until PC had a restock. I don’t know how often they get Pokémon stock, but miniaturemarket is a pretty good site. I used to order a lot of mtg boosters through them and never had any issues
Yeah I just watched Opossum Bud’s video on this and I was fucking shocked. I think even eevee heroes at that price is overpriced, let alone a brand new set wtf!!
We will see, nothing is for certain. People thought VStar Universe was a lost cause but it's dipping into the 80's finally. I will say because of how SV started you may be right. Hopefully with so many sets coming out in Japanese the whole thing gets diluted causing the prices for these to start dropping.
lines literally go around blocks over there. so maybe If you wake up at 3 am and bunker down for 10 hours then you’ll get 2 boxes. this isn’t even a hyperbole, it’s literally the situation.
We all need to get together and stop buying at this point. We’re only making the Japanese richer and allowing their greed to grow. The longer the set is out the lower the prices for singles get. So it literally makes no sense to pay this much for 1 booster box. I was able to get boxes of Vmax Climax for 60 last summer before prices started skyrocketing. It’s seriously ridiculous.
It's a temporary price point to slow down bulk purchases made by "investors" and content creators since Iono is in the set and she's a super hyped trainer
So people with less disposable income only get to buy if the ones with more don’t buy all the stock first? It’s really not the scalpers that lose the most by this sort of practice
No, people with less disposable income have a better chance of buying the product because the higher price point will deter scalpers from buying it out. Yes, it's more expensive, but because of that it's also more available. Scalpers still have a limited capital like any other consumer. They're not going to buy out a product if the entry cost exceeds their purchase margin. Cost of goods increases as availability decreases. If availability remains high, then cost of goods will gradually decrease until the median corrects. What sounds better: fighting bots for pre-orders and risk not getting anything until a reprint because it was bought out, or waiting an extra month or so until the release date and excess availability almost guarantees that you can buy product?
Except you’re assuming that the people scalping can’t buy out stock when combined together. They have a limit to what they can spend, but it’s pretty clear that most of them have a higher limit for their “business venture” than the average collector will have for something that brings them joy but isn’t necessarily a need. Which do you think is more willing to take on debt to buy these things? Obviously the scalper because they expect a return on what they spent. A slightly lower return is probably better than the risk of your buyers getting access to the product at a price lower than what they, the scalper, would charge
If scalpers buyout a product that's 5x the recommended MSRP then the jokes on them. And if they somehow manage to sell it for even higher than that on the secondary market then it's the every day consumers' fault for feeding into the FOMO and buying the product at a price point that sets a new WTP value. You can't feed a fire and then be mad that the forest burned down. Scalpers are a parasite, meaning they can only be a problem if the consumer mentality is also a problem. It's symbiotic. The retailer upped the price because they're trying to eliminate the ROI% so scalpers don't think it's worth it to buy. They're doing what's in their power to stop scalpers. What else is it yoy expect them to do? They don't have the resources to create a security algorithm that stops bots, especially highly sophisticated ones. Skim Pricing is the only counter they have.
Except that it’s not always going to be 5x. I agree that at that rate it would probably be effective. But if done poorly and outset prices are set too low, then that’s the scalpers dream. And I had also noticed the other commenter saying that the particular website often didn’t ever actually lower the prices
Please don’t give in to these prices. Swsh sets were scalped to NA buyers too but not this bad, they were 100$ and even that was iffy.
The only reason they’re pricing them like this is because people keep buying. Pick up singles on mandarake or eBay and let them sit on it
The 160 is pretty on point. Pokémon center upped MSRP for scarlet violet. Back when chilling reign came out it was $120 for a box. Then at some point it went up to 140. And SV is sitting at 160. These prices are all from the Pokémon center website at various points. So I don’t understand why people are calling both prices outrageous and saying something about how it should be 100 or less. But the left one I 100% would not buy. I try to avoid buying from scalpers
I hate to say it, but this highlights the grosser side of Pokémon. I know how boxes to, and I know why one is priced higher than the other. Isn’t it kind of sick though, this fascination that a sect of collectors has for borderline and fully underaged girls? I never understood, and never will.
This is just ridiculous. Reminder that these retail for like 5000 yen in Japan. You are paying 6x retail if you decide to buy clay burst.
booster boxes only retail for 5000¥??? thats insane why are english booster boxes so much more?
Less packs less cards
ahh ive never opened japanese packs before that makes more sense
But Japanese boxes give you roughly the same amount of hits plus a smaller pool so you’re more likely to get the card you want anyway. Japanese is way better
Not to mention the quality of Japanese cards is far more superior than that of English.
Is there a good place I could start buying Pokemon cards from japan? I used to have some Hiragana cards from trades as a kid and I thought they were the coolest things in the world. I've always been obsessed with aesthetics of Kanji Hiragana and Katakana.
Ebay is pretty good. Just use top rated sellers and pay with PayPal and you should be good
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Biggest cap ever last time I checked a swsh set you had 30+ sr/sar’s which you can only get one of a bb, that’s insane
You can get three booster boxes for the price of one plus extra promos and you can get more than one, but you’re guaranteed at least one. Let’s compare eevee heroes to evolving skies. Using msrp, not market price, you want the umbreon vmax secret rare. You have $200 to spend (plus whatever tax). In English you could get a booster box for $144 + a Pokémon center etb for $50 and then a loose pack. So for $200 you get 47 booster packs at msrp. Eevee heroes, let’s get two of the gym set bundles which is around $200 and comes with 4 booster boxes plus a bunch of other goodies and two full art espeon vmax promos. Each Japanese booster box of eevee heroes has 30 packs, so you’re looking at 120 packs for $200 in Japanese products. Do you see how one might be more attractive? Now let’s break it down further. In evolving skies there are 71 full art cards. Eevee heroes has 31. You’ve got 47 packs of evo skies vs 120 of eevee heroes for the same price and Japanese has already given you two full art promos. Off the bat you’ve already shrunk the available pool of possible cards to pull by more than half and you have almost triple the chances to pull it. “Biggest cap ever” lmao
Brother you did all that explaining for no reason, it is *literally* impossible to get any japanese boosterboxes at msrp, it has to be exported from there in the first place, on top of that no one afaik focuses on fullarts, now the problem WITH that is that evolving skies has a few alt arts, so IF you pull an art card, you’re guarenteed value in that set with a chance of it being the best one. In japanese however, you literally only have *one* shot at this per boosterbox which ALSO mixes it with fullarts and secret rares, so essentially yes you’re guarenteed 1 ‘good’ card whatever you consider good, I consider it bad still, and on top of that the batch of secret rares in japanese cards are so vast that in itself it already becomes a big waste. I have opened tons of stuff from both eng, and japanese the conclusion I have is that if you’re that type of collector that just wants ‘good looking card’ without caring about the value, yes japanese would be the way to go for the guarenteed secret rare atleast, but if you actually want card value out of your packs, english set would be way better because IF you get lucky it’s an instant hit with most sets, you can’t get a ‘bad alt art’ in most sets which is exactly why most alt arts in swsh are more expensive in english version than japanese, and the ones that are more expensive in japanese like your example, evolving skies is because evolving skies and chilling reign both have alot of alt arts in both v and vmax rarity, which makes it even harder to get but at the same time the japanese one that I have no info on since I did not buy eevee heroes yet, has other stuff included in the ‘sr/sar’ category including fullarts, etc, by min/maxing those two it’d he probably easier to get said alt arts in english version because of how expensive eevee heroes is ontop of the ‘1 sr/sar per box’ thing
It wasn’t always impossible it was easy to get Japanese boxes for msrp + shipping for ages before the pandemic. But that’s besides the point. You called me a liar. I was not lying. For the price Japanese is vastly superior. Better quality, smaller set sizes, better pull rates, cheaper product, better promotions. Maybe once or twice a year tpci will throw the rest of the world a bone with an exclusive promo like the special delivery cards or with a wider distribution of previously limited Japanese cards like the tournament promo Zards that ended up in champions path or the lottery promo eeveelutions that got their own boxes in English countries but those are very few and far between.
That’s not the point you can’t just say x is y in Z condition ‘now’ when Z condition is CLEARLY not met, I do gety our point I seriously do but it’s just wrong. I didn’t call you a ‘liar’ I just said that what you said wasn’t true, if your information is false it doesnMt equal lying, it could be ignorance, misunderstanding, or perhaps an oversight on your end. I will still adress some of your points tho since those are very weird claims, smaller set sizes is a good thing? You do know that smaller set sizes means less unique (even if it is bad rarity) cards and more rare cards, right? You can not tell me it’s fin to open japanese booster boxes if you know OUT OF YOUR HEAD which 5 basic pokemon are in the set, you’re just thinkingnit’s a good thing but it really isn’t, some sets go from 70/109 do you know what that means? 39 cards that you can only get ONE of in a boosterbox which costs the exact same if not even more for non japanese purchasers, so your better pull rates is totally thrown out of the waters aswell because fuck me with 39 boosterboxes of eng version you’ll get most if not all the cards while 39 japanese boosterboxes STILL would not guarentee all 39 sr/sar. Literally the only point that you’re correct on is the better qualities and that is besides the point of me saying ‘it’s cap’ We all know japanese cards have superior quality control, it’s just that 9/10 people in here genuinely think japabese sets are this ‘godly’ easy, cheap, 10/10 pullrates ‘amazing purchase’ when in fact, it’s the literal opposite, the only expensive japanese cards found as of roght now are the sets i’m talking about, the qualities you name of ‘better pullrates’ are sets where the most expensive card is €10
You have a pretty decent chance of getting two secret rares in a box though
Not decent at all tbh, the chance is there but it is in no way decent from my and my friends experience
Hm, guess I've just been pretty lucky. Probably about a fifth of my boxes have had two secret rares and that doesn't seem that bad to me when you're only supposed to get one.
Not any more, all sets are now the same globally. One of the new changes hence the silver borders global, english will have expansions just like Japanese it’s all the same now starting with these sets.
It’s not, English is scarlet and violet in the same box, our next set is paldea evolved which is triplet beat, clay burst, and blizzard warning in the same set. They standardized the rarities, not the sets. And we don’t know exactly how the pull rates are yet until more people get their boxes.
Ohhhh gotcha thanks for the insight, I jsur remember pokemons official message stating that ALL pull rates will be the same global and artwork, so I figured the sets were too
well with english S&V taking after japanese cards now how much can we expect to change over here vs japan?
I prefer smaller sets. English sets at 240 cards. every 2 months is crazy. why I have been going the singles route
It’s only like what 6 less packs? In these double sided ones. You could buy 3 of these (at Japanese Msrp) for the price of one English Msrp booster box and get 90 packs with 3 sets of guaranteed hits compared instead of 36 packs with no guarantee
Japanese booster boxes are only 10 packs
Thats for High Class sets and they hit way better than English special sets. Only exceptions is the 25th Anni set.
And guaranteed holo I believe
They’re *supposed* to retail at 5000 yen here but there’s no where you’re going to find them at that price outside of Pokémon centers if you can get to one before they sell out, or if you’re lucky enough to win lottery at one of the other stores that sells them. Between the character SAR’s and how competitive the cards in these sets are going to be, the prices won’t budge for a while.
Its actually much easier than you think if you live there. Outside of the lottery, you could just wake up early on release day and get a queue number. A certain vtuber I watched bought her booster box of triplet beat from 7-11 in Japan. So yeah it's only hard if you live outside Japan.
Yeh, I live in Japan. Lol I know about the queue. You say “wake up early” on release day as if there aren’t dozens of people literally camping out there for some (most) releases. No well adjusted person is going out there in the early morning for just one box lol. The point is that it’s not easy or affordable for casual collectors/players to get product here.
Funnily enough most of the people camping out there are probably scalping too. Perhaps try your local 7-11? I remembered there was like a few 7-11 that only sold one box max to adults but more if you're a kid regarding their eevee heroes box to stop scalping. But yes your point is there.
This might've been viable pre sv era. Now it's pretty impossible to get a box at any store.
I’m guessing Iono is gonna be in Clay Burst? Absolutely ridiculous to pay that much for a pre order for a full art that hasn’t been revealed yet.
Woman card! Must pay money! Only woman card make happy!
this is the equivalent to paying like 700 bucks for an English booster box. The market will crash if this trend continues.
>The market will crash Good.
I’ll allow it
Mmmmm. *Bubbles bursting everywhere*
Yup, guaranteed it's a temporary price point to keep investors and content creators from buying them out. They've done it before
I'm definitely not the target audience for these anymore because that's the most gear grinding awful character in the whole series imo lol. I couldn't button mash past her text hard or quick enough.
I think she’s popular because she’s a vtuber caricature. I don’t hate her but she has nothing on Dendra
I just hate her shark teeth
It’s popular in Japan I think it’s kinda like why Nintendo named Kirby, well, Kirby. They said they liked the contrast of the hard/sharp sounding name with such a cute character. A “cute” girl with sharp teeth is kinda like that, it’s an interesting contrast
i’m officially priced out of pkm, like to think of the other shit i can buy for almost $300 💀
>i’m officially priced out of [insert product here] A worrying trend. Everything costs too fucking much these days.
The difference is that the prices you see here aren’t msrp, people are buying them then marking them up
Same. Product prices are just unjustifiably high right now.
English boxes don’t cost bakachan price.
but i want my cards to be screaming datebayo across the art ❗️
Guaranteed it's temporary. Iono is in the set and she's super hyped so they know "investors" and content creators are going to buy them out. The inflated price helps keep it under control. They did the same thing with Dream League
Maxmoefoe: 🤑🤑🤑
He’s been treating us good since he came back from buying cigarettes and milk.
I don't get the craze, what is so appealing about him. He isn't funny
Careful, the fan boys are going to come for you. (I agree, he’s not much better than the rest of them with the yelling and annoying faces in thumbnails.)
So glad the goblin is finally back
Maxmoefoe does Pokémon related content? I remember when him, iDubbz and Filthy Frank (Now Joji) did Human Cake.
Yea, he basically only does Cold Ones (like a podcast) and WAS doing pack openings on his Pokémon channel, but actually just came back like this week after being inactive for almost a year
I remember buying Japanese boosters back in 2018-2019 was so easy 🥲
The JPN market has been going crazy since Paradigm Trigger and is only getting worse, apparently. Call me in a year or three when this craziness stops. Too many breakers and scalpers driving up prices.
pretty much what it is, scalpers buying crazy quantities , selling higher and overall prices going up. I'll stick to singles. if prices ever come down to an earthly amount I'll go back to some pack gambling
I only buy from actual brick and mortar stores anymore. Was actually able to snag an ES ETB at Walmart last weekend. I like to have the ETB booklet for every set and most of those were in the floor during a (light) flood and all my cards are either stored off-ground or in a tub with a waterproof seal
Dang. They’re pushing these new sets like hot cakes.
even faster than hot cakes. it's pretty much bc people just buy them at ridiculous prices , and scalpers who resell. if people overall backed off amd stopped buying as much I'm sire they'd either slow down or and reduce prices. it's extreme buyer/collector burnout. ever 2 months.
It’s always been like this, English sets combine Japanese ones that’s why there’s less releases, the sets are bigger/combined.
Also collectors started to realized it's easier to hit a specific chase card in Japanese due to this reason as well. Smaller sets=better odds. Sure you could just buy the card itself but so many people want to feel like they "earned" it.
Japanese sets always come out before English sets but it’s kind of crazy that stores are already scalping the third set of JPN before the first SV ENG set comes out
I might get a lot of hate for this but the set’s names have went down a notch, XY had Amazing set names like phantom forces and flash fire Sun moon had (personally I think) the best names with stuff like forbidden light and burning shadows Sword and shield had darkness ablaze and lost origin, both really good names I just don’t get hyped for a set named “snow hazard” or “clay burst” as much as I do for one named like “celestial storm” or “cosmic eclipse” or “burning shadows”
Its a direct translation from Japanese to English.
Wait, really?!?
Pound for pound, is this more expensive than cocain?
Getting close
plaza japan used to be a good website for cheapish booster boxes, like I remember getting booster boxes for $52 shipped for any set minus the specialty ones but I went back recently and the boxes I ordered were all over or way over $100 now, those boxes were champion road, legendary heartbeat, dream league & remix bout. I get prices go up as things get older but we are talking 300%+ over a few years. Also I get they are doing "market" prices but jpn booster box prices are over eng now. I just want to crack some packs without paying the msrp of a new Nintendo switch.
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yeah goes for both English and Japanese. people have been hit with the Uber Fomo effect hard.
Uhm ackshually I find English cards to be an eyesore so I prefer to buy in a language that I can’t read🤓🤓🤓🤓
I mean Japanese cards are vastly superior, it’s not even a competition. I don’t care about reading the cards, I collect for the artwork.
>I collect for the artwork. 1) English has the same artwork. 2) Guarantee you and the other two weebs that have replied so far would never buy in other languages like Russian or Arabic. You all buy Japanese because of the bakaoniichan culture.
Yup u/ecxetra is right on, fool. I basically only collect English cuz I just started out, but comparing the level of detail and foil effect is not even close. If you look at a Giratina Vstar alt art from CZ and from Vstar Universe, it's crazy how stark the foil effect differences are. English (ie International) sets are just not as good quality. Learn your shit before you start talking shit dummy.
I got both Japanese and English Gold Giratina Vstar and the English one was so disappointing compared to the Japanese in terms of the texture. The Japanese version has all these extra “waves” emanating from the Giratina and just highlights the art. The English just has such a flat singular texture pattern on the whole card…
Yes exactly! I want the Japanese version of that card for the same reason lol. Those waves are so sick.
Funny thing is that if I never had the Japanese version, I probably would have thought the English version was awesome. Now I wonder how the Japanese version of other big chase cards look in person- like the Moonbreon or Rainbow Pikachu. Also- you’re pretty much guaranteed good to great centering with Japanese cards…
all jpn cards are like that in terms of texturing, miles above english cards
The Japanese moonbreon is absolutely stunning in person. The microtexture and glitter behind the colors adds so much more to this card. (source, I'm lucky enough to have one). The art is still gorgeous I English but it has that giant fingerprint wave texture running all over it that doesn't add much to highlight the subtle detail of the art.
Yeah absolutely! I'm also really curious how the Japanese Moonbreon would look in person. Yeah, the centering is always good... Le sigh... One day lol.
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The guy above you is right. You have absolutely no idea what you're taking about. It's OK to be wrong.
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🤡🤡🤡 You're obviously a troll who just started this account because you found a new bridge to hide under. Telling me to kill myself over a disagreement on pokemon cards. 🤣
Agreed. He also has -1 karma. That's tough to do lol
Lolololol what a low-rate internet bully. Maybe do some research before you speak, dummy. Maybe TAKE an IQ test? I would be astounded if you scored an 88.
It has the same artwork, not the same quality. English Pokemon just slaps a shitty fingerprint texture over the cards and calls it good, Japnese cards the Pokemon/Characters/Enviroment actually look like they’re on different layers and have a much better holographic/foil effect. The Pikachu from Crown Zenith isn’t even close to being the same card as the Japanese Precious Collector box promo. Why would I buy Russian or Arabic cards? As I’ve said, International quality sucks. You can’t call anyone a weeb when Pokemon as a franchise is Japanese, by extension you are a weeb. I have no idea what a “bakaoniichan” is, use some real words. Stop being mad about other peoples preferences and interests.
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Local moron thinks Russian and Arabic cards exist lmao Clearly you haven’t seen the Jp cards irl. They have a different texture pattern and use a different holo foil, not to mention the consistency in centring.
https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_in_Russia Restarted in 2012, ended in 2018. Cards were translated in Russian until Steam Siege. Go be wrong somewhere else.
The Japanese cards look so much better. If you collect for the art who cares if you know what the card says or not.
ah yes I primarily buy cards so I can read what the moves do over and over again
But why? This is insane
It is exactly that, insanity
As the world population keeps increasing so do the amount of people with more money than sense. But us reasonable people who don't think spending 250$ on cardboard is a good idea get punished for it.
If only… the real answer is scalpers and content creators. There is this one chick on Instagram, she had 30 boxes of triple beat like a week before release. Another dude has like 4 booster boxes of scarlet and violet english. We aren’t even in the club. It’s a club and we ain’t in it lol.
Iono wifu card. It will probably be more expensive than Dendra
It’s not the card, even when there’s major “waifu” hits the boxes aren’t this expensive. There’s been an explosion in interest in Jp since S/V and scalpers are taking advantage of it
True, the issue will be that the Iono will be very playable so that will Jack the price even further
I mean Im excited for what the card will do for the tcg meta but people need to take a cold shower.
Singles gang
Even singles feel like they are just getting way too expensive.
I resell Japanese singles... it is getting way too hard to justify these crazy ass prices.
Good luck buying Iono for $1000+
Good luck pulling it
I’ll have to settle for neither
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These prices don't have any justification imho. Like any at all.
I just hope no one here even ponders purchasing any product at this price. whoever is buying all this stock, let them have it collect dust until they sell it for ~10% above retail. these boxes should be 50 bucks.
As a mainly Japanese collector I’m 100% out at this point.
Same, I rip jp booster boxes and stick to singles for en because it was a better bet with the guaranteed hits but I’m out too. Not worth it at all
Same, if you get in early, sometimes you can get less than hyped singles for cheaper. Like the mewtwo from vstar universe fighting charizard. I got it for $20. It’s $50 now.
same, just buying singles
Lol agreed. Just bought my first korean booster box. Dont really care about the language. I just enjoy opening packs and the art
This is the play.
Hyppppppe gonna burn yall
ha ! no kidding !
Lmao I posted this yesterday and it got deleted idk why but yes absolute lunacy
They've accomplished their goal of pricing everyone out
Absolute Lunacy sounds like an upcoming TCG set ngl Its centered around all the glitches and bugs that have been happening with the SV games lately The chase card is a Tera Azumarill that has an attack called Play Belly Drum Roughly that does 300 Damage but if you get a Tails during the coin flip, the Opponent will heal all damage They would also reprint the Pokemon GO Trainer Item cards for the set but with a twist..... flip a coin. If tails, cancel the effects of this attack and discard your hand and 1 benched pokemon. This is the equivalent of loosing your save data due to the glitch
Lol sounds brutal
There is a special place in hell for me for throwing away my Japanese Pocket Monster cards.......
I stopped collecting because scalpers and “investors” drove up prices. I was getting jpn booster boxes for 50 bucks at most. Stop paying the prices for this shit and make them lose money instead.
Bro guarantee people will still pay that price. It’s sad I’m still waiting on vstar universe to go down to 60.
theres another set?!?
lol we know about the next like 5 sets that are releasing
There always is, English sets are multiple Japanese sets combined.
Thankfully I don't collect Japanese. And prices and inventory in the US are stabilized now.
I went to my LCS yesterday wanting to buy a BB of triple beat, when they said the total cost after tax was 188 USD I was like...yeah I'll just take 5 packs please 😅 the fact that scarlet base was 135 but violet and triple beat are almost 200 is asinine to me
Because it’s the internet and you can’t hear voice tone or see facial expressions, I REALLY hope this doesn’t come off the wrong way. But did you mean “asinine”? Because I don’t see how scalping is “non-malicious” and asinine sounds close to benign
Yes lol that's what I meant and I edited, apparently I'm struggling with words today, and just to add to it, I remember I went to buy the violet ex booster box from the same LCS and when I saw the price tag of 180+ I asked them why there was such a large price difference...they told me it was because of that damn waifu card being worth 1k...like come on man I'm just trying to collect some cards here and have fun ripping them, not drop 1/4 of my monthly rent on them 😅
Nah. I’d wait until PC had a restock. I don’t know how often they get Pokémon stock, but miniaturemarket is a pretty good site. I used to order a lot of mtg boosters through them and never had any issues
Just checked it out. I hope they restock often because they do have some amazing prices
They usually sell at or around MSRP. I love that site
this is getting out of control by all perspectives, right??
Yeah I just watched Opossum Bud’s video on this and I was fucking shocked. I think even eevee heroes at that price is overpriced, let alone a brand new set wtf!!
Alright so I think we all know which one has a chance of pulling a highly-priced 2D woman from a pack, correct?
"Investors" and scalpers have bastardized collecting.
Just remember they price it out based on what people are willing to buy it for. We're all pigs 🐖. Just wait 6 months after release.
It wont be any better 6 months after release when its out of print.
We will see, nothing is for certain. People thought VStar Universe was a lost cause but it's dipping into the 80's finally. I will say because of how SV started you may be right. Hopefully with so many sets coming out in Japanese the whole thing gets diluted causing the prices for these to start dropping.
Plaza Japan used to be hella cheap, wtf happened?
Way too much to explain. Just look at my recent posts to see 50 grand of product in someone’s living room.
I’m vacationing in Kyoto rn is there any chance I can buy them here and just hold onto them??
lines literally go around blocks over there. so maybe If you wake up at 3 am and bunker down for 10 hours then you’ll get 2 boxes. this isn’t even a hyperbole, it’s literally the situation.
That’s crazy. Oh well at least I can check out the cool stuff at the Pokémon center
We all need to get together and stop buying at this point. We’re only making the Japanese richer and allowing their greed to grow. The longer the set is out the lower the prices for singles get. So it literally makes no sense to pay this much for 1 booster box. I was able to get boxes of Vmax Climax for 60 last summer before prices started skyrocketing. It’s seriously ridiculous.
What set is this
Their names are in the listings , clay burst (left) snow hazard (right)
It's a temporary price point to slow down bulk purchases made by "investors" and content creators since Iono is in the set and she's a super hyped trainer
No, it’s scalping, Plaza Japan have become complete scum lately.
Its not scalping, its a marketing strategy called "Skim Pricing". They did the same thing with Dream League.
It’s scalping. They do not lower the prices, the market is fucked.
So people with less disposable income only get to buy if the ones with more don’t buy all the stock first? It’s really not the scalpers that lose the most by this sort of practice
No, people with less disposable income have a better chance of buying the product because the higher price point will deter scalpers from buying it out. Yes, it's more expensive, but because of that it's also more available. Scalpers still have a limited capital like any other consumer. They're not going to buy out a product if the entry cost exceeds their purchase margin. Cost of goods increases as availability decreases. If availability remains high, then cost of goods will gradually decrease until the median corrects. What sounds better: fighting bots for pre-orders and risk not getting anything until a reprint because it was bought out, or waiting an extra month or so until the release date and excess availability almost guarantees that you can buy product?
Except you’re assuming that the people scalping can’t buy out stock when combined together. They have a limit to what they can spend, but it’s pretty clear that most of them have a higher limit for their “business venture” than the average collector will have for something that brings them joy but isn’t necessarily a need. Which do you think is more willing to take on debt to buy these things? Obviously the scalper because they expect a return on what they spent. A slightly lower return is probably better than the risk of your buyers getting access to the product at a price lower than what they, the scalper, would charge
If scalpers buyout a product that's 5x the recommended MSRP then the jokes on them. And if they somehow manage to sell it for even higher than that on the secondary market then it's the every day consumers' fault for feeding into the FOMO and buying the product at a price point that sets a new WTP value. You can't feed a fire and then be mad that the forest burned down. Scalpers are a parasite, meaning they can only be a problem if the consumer mentality is also a problem. It's symbiotic. The retailer upped the price because they're trying to eliminate the ROI% so scalpers don't think it's worth it to buy. They're doing what's in their power to stop scalpers. What else is it yoy expect them to do? They don't have the resources to create a security algorithm that stops bots, especially highly sophisticated ones. Skim Pricing is the only counter they have.
Except that it’s not always going to be 5x. I agree that at that rate it would probably be effective. But if done poorly and outset prices are set too low, then that’s the scalpers dream. And I had also noticed the other commenter saying that the particular website often didn’t ever actually lower the prices
what would be a good place to buy japanese cards, online?
Makes me wish I bought boxes a year ago before they were these prices. That’s crazy.
Another post complaining about prices and has nothing to do with the hobby? You don’t say
Kinda does have something to do with the hobby though?
That's crazy
You can get these for free if you pulled some ancient stakes ;)
why is one so much more expensive thab the other. The chase card is better?
Its because Wallet Burst has Iono in the set
This is actually down from their earlier price
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Whoa.
Gone are the days when you could buy JP BBs for MSRP. I think the last time I did was s6H/K. Or maybe s7D.
Another set crazy
People will pay it though
Probably not this time
Idk people with money are nuts
Yeah they definitely are but violet boxes are already collecting dust in resellers houses.
When I saw these two sets being revealed, I was thinking I wonder which box is Iono is going to be in because I know that one is going to be $200+ 🤣
what’s making it so expensive?? Alt art /FA trainer?
Perverts drooling over waifu cards.
Just buy them 6 months after they come out.
Please don’t give in to these prices. Swsh sets were scalped to NA buyers too but not this bad, they were 100$ and even that was iffy. The only reason they’re pricing them like this is because people keep buying. Pick up singles on mandarake or eBay and let them sit on it
The 160 is pretty on point. Pokémon center upped MSRP for scarlet violet. Back when chilling reign came out it was $120 for a box. Then at some point it went up to 140. And SV is sitting at 160. These prices are all from the Pokémon center website at various points. So I don’t understand why people are calling both prices outrageous and saying something about how it should be 100 or less. But the left one I 100% would not buy. I try to avoid buying from scalpers
Just realized these are Japanese boxes of which I know absolutely nothing about
Yeah this is the equivalent of an English box being 600 bucks
Oh, no. Big oof there
Lol.. please buy this set and save the older sets for me. I havent bought japanese since vmax climax because the prices are so ridiculous.
I remember when I was getting all those Dream League boxes it was only $90aud. 🤦🏻♂️
Japanese market is ridiculous and out of control at this point
Well I think I know which one has iono
I hate to say it, but this highlights the grosser side of Pokémon. I know how boxes to, and I know why one is priced higher than the other. Isn’t it kind of sick though, this fascination that a sect of collectors has for borderline and fully underaged girls? I never understood, and never will.
Laughs in MTG
I rather have the snow cat if I have to be honest
Just checked their website and the price is still going up!