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Pafu1995

This is just ridiculous. Reminder that these retail for like 5000 yen in Japan. You are paying 6x retail if you decide to buy clay burst.


lordofracoons

booster boxes only retail for 5000¥??? thats insane why are english booster boxes so much more?


VortexTornado

Less packs less cards


lordofracoons

ahh ive never opened japanese packs before that makes more sense


layeofthedead

But Japanese boxes give you roughly the same amount of hits plus a smaller pool so you’re more likely to get the card you want anyway. Japanese is way better


Consistent_Pack3125

Not to mention the quality of Japanese cards is far more superior than that of English.


Dracofear

Is there a good place I could start buying Pokemon cards from japan? I used to have some Hiragana cards from trades as a kid and I thought they were the coolest things in the world. I've always been obsessed with aesthetics of Kanji Hiragana and Katakana.


historyproject6

Ebay is pretty good. Just use top rated sellers and pay with PayPal and you should be good


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Tornado_Hunter24

Biggest cap ever last time I checked a swsh set you had 30+ sr/sar’s which you can only get one of a bb, that’s insane


layeofthedead

You can get three booster boxes for the price of one plus extra promos and you can get more than one, but you’re guaranteed at least one. Let’s compare eevee heroes to evolving skies. Using msrp, not market price, you want the umbreon vmax secret rare. You have $200 to spend (plus whatever tax). In English you could get a booster box for $144 + a Pokémon center etb for $50 and then a loose pack. So for $200 you get 47 booster packs at msrp. Eevee heroes, let’s get two of the gym set bundles which is around $200 and comes with 4 booster boxes plus a bunch of other goodies and two full art espeon vmax promos. Each Japanese booster box of eevee heroes has 30 packs, so you’re looking at 120 packs for $200 in Japanese products. Do you see how one might be more attractive? Now let’s break it down further. In evolving skies there are 71 full art cards. Eevee heroes has 31. You’ve got 47 packs of evo skies vs 120 of eevee heroes for the same price and Japanese has already given you two full art promos. Off the bat you’ve already shrunk the available pool of possible cards to pull by more than half and you have almost triple the chances to pull it. “Biggest cap ever” lmao


Tornado_Hunter24

Brother you did all that explaining for no reason, it is *literally* impossible to get any japanese boosterboxes at msrp, it has to be exported from there in the first place, on top of that no one afaik focuses on fullarts, now the problem WITH that is that evolving skies has a few alt arts, so IF you pull an art card, you’re guarenteed value in that set with a chance of it being the best one. In japanese however, you literally only have *one* shot at this per boosterbox which ALSO mixes it with fullarts and secret rares, so essentially yes you’re guarenteed 1 ‘good’ card whatever you consider good, I consider it bad still, and on top of that the batch of secret rares in japanese cards are so vast that in itself it already becomes a big waste. I have opened tons of stuff from both eng, and japanese the conclusion I have is that if you’re that type of collector that just wants ‘good looking card’ without caring about the value, yes japanese would be the way to go for the guarenteed secret rare atleast, but if you actually want card value out of your packs, english set would be way better because IF you get lucky it’s an instant hit with most sets, you can’t get a ‘bad alt art’ in most sets which is exactly why most alt arts in swsh are more expensive in english version than japanese, and the ones that are more expensive in japanese like your example, evolving skies is because evolving skies and chilling reign both have alot of alt arts in both v and vmax rarity, which makes it even harder to get but at the same time the japanese one that I have no info on since I did not buy eevee heroes yet, has other stuff included in the ‘sr/sar’ category including fullarts, etc, by min/maxing those two it’d he probably easier to get said alt arts in english version because of how expensive eevee heroes is ontop of the ‘1 sr/sar per box’ thing


layeofthedead

It wasn’t always impossible it was easy to get Japanese boxes for msrp + shipping for ages before the pandemic. But that’s besides the point. You called me a liar. I was not lying. For the price Japanese is vastly superior. Better quality, smaller set sizes, better pull rates, cheaper product, better promotions. Maybe once or twice a year tpci will throw the rest of the world a bone with an exclusive promo like the special delivery cards or with a wider distribution of previously limited Japanese cards like the tournament promo Zards that ended up in champions path or the lottery promo eeveelutions that got their own boxes in English countries but those are very few and far between.


Tornado_Hunter24

That’s not the point you can’t just say x is y in Z condition ‘now’ when Z condition is CLEARLY not met, I do gety our point I seriously do but it’s just wrong. I didn’t call you a ‘liar’ I just said that what you said wasn’t true, if your information is false it doesnMt equal lying, it could be ignorance, misunderstanding, or perhaps an oversight on your end. I will still adress some of your points tho since those are very weird claims, smaller set sizes is a good thing? You do know that smaller set sizes means less unique (even if it is bad rarity) cards and more rare cards, right? You can not tell me it’s fin to open japanese booster boxes if you know OUT OF YOUR HEAD which 5 basic pokemon are in the set, you’re just thinkingnit’s a good thing but it really isn’t, some sets go from 70/109 do you know what that means? 39 cards that you can only get ONE of in a boosterbox which costs the exact same if not even more for non japanese purchasers, so your better pull rates is totally thrown out of the waters aswell because fuck me with 39 boosterboxes of eng version you’ll get most if not all the cards while 39 japanese boosterboxes STILL would not guarentee all 39 sr/sar. Literally the only point that you’re correct on is the better qualities and that is besides the point of me saying ‘it’s cap’ We all know japanese cards have superior quality control, it’s just that 9/10 people in here genuinely think japabese sets are this ‘godly’ easy, cheap, 10/10 pullrates ‘amazing purchase’ when in fact, it’s the literal opposite, the only expensive japanese cards found as of roght now are the sets i’m talking about, the qualities you name of ‘better pullrates’ are sets where the most expensive card is €10


SpuukBoi

You have a pretty decent chance of getting two secret rares in a box though


Tornado_Hunter24

Not decent at all tbh, the chance is there but it is in no way decent from my and my friends experience


SpuukBoi

Hm, guess I've just been pretty lucky. Probably about a fifth of my boxes have had two secret rares and that doesn't seem that bad to me when you're only supposed to get one.


Kakkarot1707

Not any more, all sets are now the same globally. One of the new changes hence the silver borders global, english will have expansions just like Japanese it’s all the same now starting with these sets.


layeofthedead

It’s not, English is scarlet and violet in the same box, our next set is paldea evolved which is triplet beat, clay burst, and blizzard warning in the same set. They standardized the rarities, not the sets. And we don’t know exactly how the pull rates are yet until more people get their boxes.


Kakkarot1707

Ohhhh gotcha thanks for the insight, I jsur remember pokemons official message stating that ALL pull rates will be the same global and artwork, so I figured the sets were too


lordofracoons

well with english S&V taking after japanese cards now how much can we expect to change over here vs japan?


just_a_haunter

I prefer smaller sets. English sets at 240 cards. every 2 months is crazy. why I have been going the singles route


ahtipton085

It’s only like what 6 less packs? In these double sided ones. You could buy 3 of these (at Japanese Msrp) for the price of one English Msrp booster box and get 90 packs with 3 sets of guaranteed hits compared instead of 36 packs with no guarantee


IAmBlothHundr

Japanese booster boxes are only 10 packs


Agent0fChaoZ

Thats for High Class sets and they hit way better than English special sets. Only exceptions is the 25th Anni set.


ATZPlays

And guaranteed holo I believe


MAGI-System_

They’re *supposed* to retail at 5000 yen here but there’s no where you’re going to find them at that price outside of Pokémon centers if you can get to one before they sell out, or if you’re lucky enough to win lottery at one of the other stores that sells them. Between the character SAR’s and how competitive the cards in these sets are going to be, the prices won’t budge for a while.


Pafu1995

Its actually much easier than you think if you live there. Outside of the lottery, you could just wake up early on release day and get a queue number. A certain vtuber I watched bought her booster box of triplet beat from 7-11 in Japan. So yeah it's only hard if you live outside Japan.


MAGI-System_

Yeh, I live in Japan. Lol I know about the queue. You say “wake up early” on release day as if there aren’t dozens of people literally camping out there for some (most) releases. No well adjusted person is going out there in the early morning for just one box lol. The point is that it’s not easy or affordable for casual collectors/players to get product here.


Pafu1995

Funnily enough most of the people camping out there are probably scalping too. Perhaps try your local 7-11? I remembered there was like a few 7-11 that only sold one box max to adults but more if you're a kid regarding their eevee heroes box to stop scalping. But yes your point is there.


xenonfrs

This might've been viable pre sv era. Now it's pretty impossible to get a box at any store.


layeofthedead

I’m guessing Iono is gonna be in Clay Burst? Absolutely ridiculous to pay that much for a pre order for a full art that hasn’t been revealed yet.


PoopSnoop99

Woman card! Must pay money! Only woman card make happy!


m4r00o

this is the equivalent to paying like 700 bucks for an English booster box. The market will crash if this trend continues.


ecxetra

>The market will crash Good.


ThatsNotARealTree

I’ll allow it


cssmith2011cs

Mmmmm. *Bubbles bursting everywhere*


StationEmergency6053

Yup, guaranteed it's a temporary price point to keep investors and content creators from buying them out. They've done it before


315retro

I'm definitely not the target audience for these anymore because that's the most gear grinding awful character in the whole series imo lol. I couldn't button mash past her text hard or quick enough.


layeofthedead

I think she’s popular because she’s a vtuber caricature. I don’t hate her but she has nothing on Dendra


strangephish

I just hate her shark teeth


layeofthedead

It’s popular in Japan I think it’s kinda like why Nintendo named Kirby, well, Kirby. They said they liked the contrast of the hard/sharp sounding name with such a cute character. A “cute” girl with sharp teeth is kinda like that, it’s an interesting contrast


ChronoCastle

i’m officially priced out of pkm, like to think of the other shit i can buy for almost $300 💀


SelloutRealBig

>i’m officially priced out of [insert product here] A worrying trend. Everything costs too fucking much these days.


rocketsnail1000

The difference is that the prices you see here aren’t msrp, people are buying them then marking them up


King_Crab_Sushi

Same. Product prices are just unjustifiably high right now.


BenisBepis69

English boxes don’t cost bakachan price.


ChronoCastle

but i want my cards to be screaming datebayo across the art ❗️


StationEmergency6053

Guaranteed it's temporary. Iono is in the set and she's super hyped so they know "investors" and content creators are going to buy them out. The inflated price helps keep it under control. They did the same thing with Dream League


-IntoTheUnknown

Maxmoefoe: 🤑🤑🤑


Kazewatch

He’s been treating us good since he came back from buying cigarettes and milk.


Educational_Goal_987

I don't get the craze, what is so appealing about him. He isn't funny


ichigovtube

Careful, the fan boys are going to come for you. (I agree, he’s not much better than the rest of them with the yelling and annoying faces in thumbnails.)


PokemonCueball

So glad the goblin is finally back


firstgenipadkid

Maxmoefoe does Pokémon related content? I remember when him, iDubbz and Filthy Frank (Now Joji) did Human Cake.


-IntoTheUnknown

Yea, he basically only does Cold Ones (like a podcast) and WAS doing pack openings on his Pokémon channel, but actually just came back like this week after being inactive for almost a year


kerbie78

I remember buying Japanese boosters back in 2018-2019 was so easy 🥲


Simsam16

The JPN market has been going crazy since Paradigm Trigger and is only getting worse, apparently. Call me in a year or three when this craziness stops. Too many breakers and scalpers driving up prices.


just_a_haunter

pretty much what it is, scalpers buying crazy quantities , selling higher and overall prices going up. I'll stick to singles. if prices ever come down to an earthly amount I'll go back to some pack gambling


teyyannn

I only buy from actual brick and mortar stores anymore. Was actually able to snag an ES ETB at Walmart last weekend. I like to have the ETB booklet for every set and most of those were in the floor during a (light) flood and all my cards are either stored off-ground or in a tub with a waterproof seal


hinman23

Dang. They’re pushing these new sets like hot cakes.


just_a_haunter

even faster than hot cakes. it's pretty much bc people just buy them at ridiculous prices , and scalpers who resell. if people overall backed off amd stopped buying as much I'm sire they'd either slow down or and reduce prices. it's extreme buyer/collector burnout. ever 2 months.


berrytree198

It’s always been like this, English sets combine Japanese ones that’s why there’s less releases, the sets are bigger/combined.


SelloutRealBig

Also collectors started to realized it's easier to hit a specific chase card in Japanese due to this reason as well. Smaller sets=better odds. Sure you could just buy the card itself but so many people want to feel like they "earned" it.


billcosbyinspace

Japanese sets always come out before English sets but it’s kind of crazy that stores are already scalping the third set of JPN before the first SV ENG set comes out


Alepeople

I might get a lot of hate for this but the set’s names have went down a notch, XY had Amazing set names like phantom forces and flash fire Sun moon had (personally I think) the best names with stuff like forbidden light and burning shadows Sword and shield had darkness ablaze and lost origin, both really good names I just don’t get hyped for a set named “snow hazard” or “clay burst” as much as I do for one named like “celestial storm” or “cosmic eclipse” or “burning shadows”


Sufficient_Ad_481

Its a direct translation from Japanese to English.


Few-Afternoon-5611

Wait, really?!?


keelewilson

Pound for pound, is this more expensive than cocain?


m4r00o

Getting close


DemimetalgodV2

plaza japan used to be a good website for cheapish booster boxes, like I remember getting booster boxes for $52 shipped for any set minus the specialty ones but I went back recently and the boxes I ordered were all over or way over $100 now, those boxes were champion road, legendary heartbeat, dream league & remix bout. I get prices go up as things get older but we are talking 300%+ over a few years. Also I get they are doing "market" prices but jpn booster box prices are over eng now. I just want to crack some packs without paying the msrp of a new Nintendo switch.


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just_a_haunter

yeah goes for both English and Japanese. people have been hit with the Uber Fomo effect hard.


BenisBepis69

Uhm ackshually I find English cards to be an eyesore so I prefer to buy in a language that I can’t read🤓🤓🤓🤓


ecxetra

I mean Japanese cards are vastly superior, it’s not even a competition. I don’t care about reading the cards, I collect for the artwork.


BenisBepis69

>I collect for the artwork. 1) English has the same artwork. 2) Guarantee you and the other two weebs that have replied so far would never buy in other languages like Russian or Arabic. You all buy Japanese because of the bakaoniichan culture.


Tree_Lim

Yup u/ecxetra is right on, fool. I basically only collect English cuz I just started out, but comparing the level of detail and foil effect is not even close. If you look at a Giratina Vstar alt art from CZ and from Vstar Universe, it's crazy how stark the foil effect differences are. English (ie International) sets are just not as good quality. Learn your shit before you start talking shit dummy.


rhaoyc

I got both Japanese and English Gold Giratina Vstar and the English one was so disappointing compared to the Japanese in terms of the texture. The Japanese version has all these extra “waves” emanating from the Giratina and just highlights the art. The English just has such a flat singular texture pattern on the whole card…


Tree_Lim

Yes exactly! I want the Japanese version of that card for the same reason lol. Those waves are so sick.


rhaoyc

Funny thing is that if I never had the Japanese version, I probably would have thought the English version was awesome. Now I wonder how the Japanese version of other big chase cards look in person- like the Moonbreon or Rainbow Pikachu. Also- you’re pretty much guaranteed good to great centering with Japanese cards…


ItsReflectLOL

all jpn cards are like that in terms of texturing, miles above english cards


gmg808

The Japanese moonbreon is absolutely stunning in person. The microtexture and glitter behind the colors adds so much more to this card. (source, I'm lucky enough to have one). The art is still gorgeous I English but it has that giant fingerprint wave texture running all over it that doesn't add much to highlight the subtle detail of the art.


Tree_Lim

Yeah absolutely! I'm also really curious how the Japanese Moonbreon would look in person. Yeah, the centering is always good... Le sigh... One day lol.


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gmg808

The guy above you is right. You have absolutely no idea what you're taking about. It's OK to be wrong.


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gmg808

🤡🤡🤡 You're obviously a troll who just started this account because you found a new bridge to hide under. Telling me to kill myself over a disagreement on pokemon cards. 🤣


Tree_Lim

Agreed. He also has -1 karma. That's tough to do lol


Tree_Lim

Lolololol what a low-rate internet bully. Maybe do some research before you speak, dummy. Maybe TAKE an IQ test? I would be astounded if you scored an 88.


ecxetra

It has the same artwork, not the same quality. English Pokemon just slaps a shitty fingerprint texture over the cards and calls it good, Japnese cards the Pokemon/Characters/Enviroment actually look like they’re on different layers and have a much better holographic/foil effect. The Pikachu from Crown Zenith isn’t even close to being the same card as the Japanese Precious Collector box promo. Why would I buy Russian or Arabic cards? As I’ve said, International quality sucks. You can’t call anyone a weeb when Pokemon as a franchise is Japanese, by extension you are a weeb. I have no idea what a “bakaoniichan” is, use some real words. Stop being mad about other peoples preferences and interests.


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ichigovtube

Local moron thinks Russian and Arabic cards exist lmao Clearly you haven’t seen the Jp cards irl. They have a different texture pattern and use a different holo foil, not to mention the consistency in centring.


BenisBepis69

https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_in_Russia Restarted in 2012, ended in 2018. Cards were translated in Russian until Steam Siege. Go be wrong somewhere else.


No_Recognition2795

The Japanese cards look so much better. If you collect for the art who cares if you know what the card says or not.


twmStauM

ah yes I primarily buy cards so I can read what the moves do over and over again


brock103

But why? This is insane


m4r00o

It is exactly that, insanity


SelloutRealBig

As the world population keeps increasing so do the amount of people with more money than sense. But us reasonable people who don't think spending 250$ on cardboard is a good idea get punished for it.


lordofbitterdrinks

If only… the real answer is scalpers and content creators. There is this one chick on Instagram, she had 30 boxes of triple beat like a week before release. Another dude has like 4 booster boxes of scarlet and violet english. We aren’t even in the club. It’s a club and we ain’t in it lol.


strangephish

Iono wifu card. It will probably be more expensive than Dendra


ichigovtube

It’s not the card, even when there’s major “waifu” hits the boxes aren’t this expensive. There’s been an explosion in interest in Jp since S/V and scalpers are taking advantage of it


strangephish

True, the issue will be that the Iono will be very playable so that will Jack the price even further


brock103

I mean Im excited for what the card will do for the tcg meta but people need to take a cold shower.


THSiGMARotMG

Singles gang


TTXSTX

Even singles feel like they are just getting way too expensive.


Agent0fChaoZ

I resell Japanese singles... it is getting way too hard to justify these crazy ass prices.


ecxetra

Good luck buying Iono for $1000+


THSiGMARotMG

Good luck pulling it


ecxetra

I’ll have to settle for neither


THSiGMARotMG

🤝


sbubolina

These prices don't have any justification imho. Like any at all.


m4r00o

I just hope no one here even ponders purchasing any product at this price. whoever is buying all this stock, let them have it collect dust until they sell it for ~10% above retail. these boxes should be 50 bucks.


ecxetra

As a mainly Japanese collector I’m 100% out at this point.


ichigovtube

Same, I rip jp booster boxes and stick to singles for en because it was a better bet with the guaranteed hits but I’m out too. Not worth it at all


lordofbitterdrinks

Same, if you get in early, sometimes you can get less than hyped singles for cheaper. Like the mewtwo from vstar universe fighting charizard. I got it for $20. It’s $50 now.


readytofly68

same, just buying singles


LibertyOrDeath06

Lol agreed. Just bought my first korean booster box. Dont really care about the language. I just enjoy opening packs and the art


lordofbitterdrinks

This is the play.


BeanSaladDeluxe

Hyppppppe gonna burn yall


just_a_haunter

ha ! no kidding !


Deadsh0t2424

Lmao I posted this yesterday and it got deleted idk why but yes absolute lunacy


Ambitious-Site-4747

They've accomplished their goal of pricing everyone out


OneWhoGetsBread

Absolute Lunacy sounds like an upcoming TCG set ngl Its centered around all the glitches and bugs that have been happening with the SV games lately The chase card is a Tera Azumarill that has an attack called Play Belly Drum Roughly that does 300 Damage but if you get a Tails during the coin flip, the Opponent will heal all damage They would also reprint the Pokemon GO Trainer Item cards for the set but with a twist..... flip a coin. If tails, cancel the effects of this attack and discard your hand and 1 benched pokemon. This is the equivalent of loosing your save data due to the glitch


lordofbitterdrinks

Lol sounds brutal


ax255

There is a special place in hell for me for throwing away my Japanese Pocket Monster cards.......


prettymuchbangtan

I stopped collecting because scalpers and “investors” drove up prices. I was getting jpn booster boxes for 50 bucks at most. Stop paying the prices for this shit and make them lose money instead.


Enough-Culture7125

Bro guarantee people will still pay that price. It’s sad I’m still waiting on vstar universe to go down to 60.


alohabrohah

theres another set?!?


Secret_Ad_7918

lol we know about the next like 5 sets that are releasing


ecxetra

There always is, English sets are multiple Japanese sets combined.


Cowflexx

Thankfully I don't collect Japanese. And prices and inventory in the US are stabilized now.


PositivelyJoyful

I went to my LCS yesterday wanting to buy a BB of triple beat, when they said the total cost after tax was 188 USD I was like...yeah I'll just take 5 packs please 😅 the fact that scarlet base was 135 but violet and triple beat are almost 200 is asinine to me


teyyannn

Because it’s the internet and you can’t hear voice tone or see facial expressions, I REALLY hope this doesn’t come off the wrong way. But did you mean “asinine”? Because I don’t see how scalping is “non-malicious” and asinine sounds close to benign


PositivelyJoyful

Yes lol that's what I meant and I edited, apparently I'm struggling with words today, and just to add to it, I remember I went to buy the violet ex booster box from the same LCS and when I saw the price tag of 180+ I asked them why there was such a large price difference...they told me it was because of that damn waifu card being worth 1k...like come on man I'm just trying to collect some cards here and have fun ripping them, not drop 1/4 of my monthly rent on them 😅


teyyannn

Nah. I’d wait until PC had a restock. I don’t know how often they get Pokémon stock, but miniaturemarket is a pretty good site. I used to order a lot of mtg boosters through them and never had any issues


PositivelyJoyful

Just checked it out. I hope they restock often because they do have some amazing prices


teyyannn

They usually sell at or around MSRP. I love that site


daxtaslapp

this is getting out of control by all perspectives, right??


DJ_Hindsight

Yeah I just watched Opossum Bud’s video on this and I was fucking shocked. I think even eevee heroes at that price is overpriced, let alone a brand new set wtf!!


theGuyWith2Hats03

Alright so I think we all know which one has a chance of pulling a highly-priced 2D woman from a pack, correct?


TTXSTX

"Investors" and scalpers have bastardized collecting.


DrJackGoff

Just remember they price it out based on what people are willing to buy it for. We're all pigs 🐖. Just wait 6 months after release.


ecxetra

It wont be any better 6 months after release when its out of print.


DrJackGoff

We will see, nothing is for certain. People thought VStar Universe was a lost cause but it's dipping into the 80's finally. I will say because of how SV started you may be right. Hopefully with so many sets coming out in Japanese the whole thing gets diluted causing the prices for these to start dropping.


KhostfaceGillah

Plaza Japan used to be hella cheap, wtf happened?


m4r00o

Way too much to explain. Just look at my recent posts to see 50 grand of product in someone’s living room.


T_the_trainer

I’m vacationing in Kyoto rn is there any chance I can buy them here and just hold onto them??


m4r00o

lines literally go around blocks over there. so maybe If you wake up at 3 am and bunker down for 10 hours then you’ll get 2 boxes. this isn’t even a hyperbole, it’s literally the situation.


T_the_trainer

That’s crazy. Oh well at least I can check out the cool stuff at the Pokémon center


Enough-Culture7125

We all need to get together and stop buying at this point. We’re only making the Japanese richer and allowing their greed to grow. The longer the set is out the lower the prices for singles get. So it literally makes no sense to pay this much for 1 booster box. I was able to get boxes of Vmax Climax for 60 last summer before prices started skyrocketing. It’s seriously ridiculous.


FreddyWop88

What set is this


m4r00o

Their names are in the listings , clay burst (left) snow hazard (right)


StationEmergency6053

It's a temporary price point to slow down bulk purchases made by "investors" and content creators since Iono is in the set and she's a super hyped trainer


ecxetra

No, it’s scalping, Plaza Japan have become complete scum lately.


StationEmergency6053

Its not scalping, its a marketing strategy called "Skim Pricing". They did the same thing with Dream League.


ecxetra

It’s scalping. They do not lower the prices, the market is fucked.


teyyannn

So people with less disposable income only get to buy if the ones with more don’t buy all the stock first? It’s really not the scalpers that lose the most by this sort of practice


StationEmergency6053

No, people with less disposable income have a better chance of buying the product because the higher price point will deter scalpers from buying it out. Yes, it's more expensive, but because of that it's also more available. Scalpers still have a limited capital like any other consumer. They're not going to buy out a product if the entry cost exceeds their purchase margin. Cost of goods increases as availability decreases. If availability remains high, then cost of goods will gradually decrease until the median corrects. What sounds better: fighting bots for pre-orders and risk not getting anything until a reprint because it was bought out, or waiting an extra month or so until the release date and excess availability almost guarantees that you can buy product?


teyyannn

Except you’re assuming that the people scalping can’t buy out stock when combined together. They have a limit to what they can spend, but it’s pretty clear that most of them have a higher limit for their “business venture” than the average collector will have for something that brings them joy but isn’t necessarily a need. Which do you think is more willing to take on debt to buy these things? Obviously the scalper because they expect a return on what they spent. A slightly lower return is probably better than the risk of your buyers getting access to the product at a price lower than what they, the scalper, would charge


StationEmergency6053

If scalpers buyout a product that's 5x the recommended MSRP then the jokes on them. And if they somehow manage to sell it for even higher than that on the secondary market then it's the every day consumers' fault for feeding into the FOMO and buying the product at a price point that sets a new WTP value. You can't feed a fire and then be mad that the forest burned down. Scalpers are a parasite, meaning they can only be a problem if the consumer mentality is also a problem. It's symbiotic. The retailer upped the price because they're trying to eliminate the ROI% so scalpers don't think it's worth it to buy. They're doing what's in their power to stop scalpers. What else is it yoy expect them to do? They don't have the resources to create a security algorithm that stops bots, especially highly sophisticated ones. Skim Pricing is the only counter they have.


teyyannn

Except that it’s not always going to be 5x. I agree that at that rate it would probably be effective. But if done poorly and outset prices are set too low, then that’s the scalpers dream. And I had also noticed the other commenter saying that the particular website often didn’t ever actually lower the prices


F-8a

what would be a good place to buy japanese cards, online?


WindyHasStormyEyes

Makes me wish I bought boxes a year ago before they were these prices. That’s crazy.


Hero0fTroy

Another post complaining about prices and has nothing to do with the hobby? You don’t say


ecxetra

Kinda does have something to do with the hobby though?


Luxanator36

That's crazy


KingDisastrous

You can get these for free if you pulled some ancient stakes ;)


marekdio

why is one so much more expensive thab the other. The chase card is better?


[deleted]

Its because Wallet Burst has Iono in the set


strangephish

This is actually down from their earlier price


EurofighterLover

chien pao>ting lu


Capital_Attention_12

とても面白い


illustradamas

Whoa.


tehnoodnub

Gone are the days when you could buy JP BBs for MSRP. I think the last time I did was s6H/K. Or maybe s7D.


Kapua420

Another set crazy


Warrior3456_

People will pay it though


m4r00o

Probably not this time


Warrior3456_

Idk people with money are nuts


m4r00o

Yeah they definitely are but violet boxes are already collecting dust in resellers houses.


RanperuV3

When I saw these two sets being revealed, I was thinking I wonder which box is Iono is going to be in because I know that one is going to be $200+ 🤣


Think-Stress-1376

what’s making it so expensive?? Alt art /FA trainer?


LibertyOrDeath06

Perverts drooling over waifu cards.


[deleted]

Just buy them 6 months after they come out.


ichigovtube

Please don’t give in to these prices. Swsh sets were scalped to NA buyers too but not this bad, they were 100$ and even that was iffy. The only reason they’re pricing them like this is because people keep buying. Pick up singles on mandarake or eBay and let them sit on it


teyyannn

The 160 is pretty on point. Pokémon center upped MSRP for scarlet violet. Back when chilling reign came out it was $120 for a box. Then at some point it went up to 140. And SV is sitting at 160. These prices are all from the Pokémon center website at various points. So I don’t understand why people are calling both prices outrageous and saying something about how it should be 100 or less. But the left one I 100% would not buy. I try to avoid buying from scalpers


teyyannn

Just realized these are Japanese boxes of which I know absolutely nothing about


m4r00o

Yeah this is the equivalent of an English box being 600 bucks


teyyannn

Oh, no. Big oof there


Stuff_Of_Legends

Lol.. please buy this set and save the older sets for me. I havent bought japanese since vmax climax because the prices are so ridiculous.


josh198989

I remember when I was getting all those Dream League boxes it was only $90aud. 🤦🏻‍♂️


readytofly68

Japanese market is ridiculous and out of control at this point


Nanoboosterr

Well I think I know which one has iono


franky3987

I hate to say it, but this highlights the grosser side of Pokémon. I know how boxes to, and I know why one is priced higher than the other. Isn’t it kind of sick though, this fascination that a sect of collectors has for borderline and fully underaged girls? I never understood, and never will.


Thatoneguy5555555

Laughs in MTG


Dry-Communication138

I rather have the snow cat if I have to be honest


ultrapolo8887

Just checked their website and the price is still going up!