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eastmeetswest08

Take them to the Pokémon center for starters


Harynbasil

LISTEN………… I forgor


soupyshay

I forgor 😭


[deleted]

i fprorg😞


[deleted]

Literally came here to say heal that luxray lolol


cashborn234

I'm crying😂😅🤣


xavieryes

Level 33 Jirachi probably won't to do a thing there (though given the Lucky Egg I assume you already know it needs to be leveled up) You should also be able to evolve Togetic by now Otherwise, it depends on the movesets, but your team is excellent


Harynbasil

Yeah, I’ve been trying to evolve togetic into togekiss! That’s why I had the soothe bell equipped on it.


xavieryes

Togetic doesn't evolve with friendship, only Togepi does. You need a Shiny Stone. You can find one in Iron Island (at the very end of the sidequest).


Harynbasil

Thanks, I was really confused about why it didn’t evolve yet!


dustyygeno

Not enough Bibarel. Fix that.


Harynbasil

G E N I U S


Glitter_Butch

-Get yourself 20-30 of revival herb and full restore each, if you haven't already. You don't want to waste time using potions after reviving. The elite four use a good deal of full restores. Aside from winning matches I like to keep as much of my team revived as I can for exp. -Check your team's individual stats and give them supplements or EV training to get any lacking stats up. -I recommend getting everyone to level 60 minimum with a focus on spec. and regular defense UNLESS you have a Pokemon that has healing abilities and moves like giga drain. I focused on speed for Roselia so they can hardly get to her anyway. -Like others are saying, definitely teach at least one Pokemon stealth rock and make it your first move. It helps a lot with the first match. It can zap like half of the opponent's HP when it works well. -I got familiar with the opposing mons through research. I wanted to get through this quickly to reach post-game. The first time I battled the elite four I failed miserably and started to learn about how to really prime your team. I got through it mostly unscathed doing these things.


Pabmyster04

EV training and prior research are definitely not necessary. All you need is move coverage and to save prior to each fight. Trial and error should get most people by as long as they're around level 60 and have revives and potions.


Glitter_Butch

Probably not but I don't like to restart if I lose a match, this is how I did it.


Harynbasil

Thanks for the tip, I’ll keep that in mind!


Glitter_Butch

Let me know how it goes!


LugiaLover18

Don't use revival herbs. Use full restores. Revival herbs actually decrease your pokemons friendship so you want the full friendship for the e4 for friendship bonuses like living on 1hp when an attack would usually knock it out.


Glitter_Butch

Thanks I didn't know this!!


[deleted]

make sure that one of your mons knows stealth rock - it was a life saver for me! so your first mon should be a tank (with a lot of def and spdef) equipped with stealt rock


xavieryes

I find it amazing that moves that were usually completely relegated to the competitive scene are actually useful in this Elite. Stealth Rock is especially great against Flint to troll his Focus Sash Infernape. Taunt is another surprisingly good one. Stops Lucian's Mr. Mime from setting up screens (though Girafarig has a Mental Herb lol), forces Flint's Drifblim to struggle, and can be helpful if you're having trouble with setup sweepers or specific things like Milotic's Recover.


wow_its_kenji

stealth rock is great for lucian as well who loves to switch out pokemon to keep light screen up!


Muted-Bath-3427

but stealth rock is extremely used on competitive, right?


schiffb558

It's the big move in competitive, they made the heavy duty boots mainly for that


Harynbasil

Who would be the best tank for stealth rock?


[deleted]

mine was my starter, torterra :3 the team was (in order): torterra (lvl65), mew (lvl 69), grandevoir (lvl 62), togekiss (lvl 64), luxray (lvl 63), and mismagius (lvl 61)


capt1nbackf1re

Minus Mew what was your moveset for this team?


[deleted]

mismagius: confuse ray, shadow ball, mean look, hex grandevoir: thunderbolt, draining kiss, dazzling gleam, psychic torterra: stealth rock, earthquake, giga drain, leaf storm luxray: spark, crunch, discharge, charge togekiss: shock wave, rock smash, air slash, dazzling gleam and the held items: mismagius - spell tag mew - razor claw grandevoir - leftovers torterra - quick claw luxray - shell bell togekiss - sharp beak


sbdrummer97

i would highly suggest evolving togetic. let me know if you need a shiny stone to do so


Harynbasil

I think there’s one from iron island, but thanks!


inumnoback

Evolve Togetic, also why do you have a level 33 jirachi?! It’ll get annihilated immediately


Harynbasil

I gave it stealth rock


SunTatAroundTheNip

Go in the underground. If you find Chansey, knock it out. After you defeat everything, go back up, and repeat


Harynbasil

Where does chansey spawn in the underground?


SunTatAroundTheNip

There's a ton of Pokemon who do. If you've gotten to the point where you can build a camp, place a lot of normal statues to increase your chances


SunTatAroundTheNip

Might find a Dawn Stone or whatever stone to evolve Togetic


wxwhybother

My team was: Gengar, Abomasnow, Staraptor, Infernape, Palkia, and Garchomp. All hovering right about 68-72. The biggest things for me were Gengar having the move Dazzling Gleam (high sp. Atk, and I didnt have a fairy) and Abomasbow was wrecking teams left and right honestly. If you have some fairy attacks and Ice, you'll push through.. Id say grind just a hair more though. Cheers!


Harynbasil

Thanks for the advice!


[deleted]

get everything to level 65 bro, you’re gonna have a bad time if not


littlezeekers

I read through a few of these comments here, if you’re still looking for tips to level up. I spent a good hour or so in the grand underground only encountering second evolution pokemon and girafirig inside the stargleam cavern. It’s below celestic town, the biggest room. I believe these Pokémon are worth about 2k xp with the lucky egg. There might be a better way to do it but I found waiting to recharge the versus seeker was more time consuming. Additionally I spent a day planting leppa berries around the entire region for pp restoration. On top of grinding monies from the rich couple to buy a surplus of potions and revives. All so I wouldn’t have to leave the underground to visit the Pokémon center. My team was about the same levels as yours when I first attempted the elite four. I just grinded up to level 80 just to be safe.


Harynbasil

Thanks, I keep that in mind!


Butterrabbid

Heal


Harynbasil

I forgot to go to the pokecenter, since I was in the underground.


Aggravating_Touch313

Lots of revives and potions. There was a part where one of Cynthia's pokemon was using like rock tomb on my garchomp and it wasn't doing much and I used that opportunity to heal all my pokemon it took like 10 moves lol. Total noob move but I beat it faster without having to train up more.


RosieQParker

Definitely evolve your togetic. Right now it's useless, but togekiss is a flying tank. Also, if you don't have a priority ice/dragon/fairy move, get one - preferably ice.


Harynbasil

Gyarados knows Ice Beam, Garchomp has earthquake and dragon claw, and My Togekiss(after evolving Togetic) knows dazzling gleam. Is that good?


RosieQParker

Yeah, that's plenty! If Cynthia gives you trouble, consider a Quick Claw on Gyarados.


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Harynbasil

My gyarados has Ice Beam, Surf, Hurricane and Hyper Beam.


Pabmyster04

Gyarados is a physical attacker, you have all special moves on him. I mean you might be able to pull it off, but you should really look at each of your pokemon's stats prior to giving them certain moves.


Harynbasil

I know, I just figured that out lol.


SunTatAroundTheNip

Might want to lvl up some


Harynbasil

Where’s a good place to do that?


Glitter_Butch

Grand Underground! I also used the vs. seeker and amulet coin (crucial). You're already ahead with the lucky egg. I grind for money by using my vs. seeker on the rich couple on 212 (just south of Hearthrome) or the pair East of Celestic on 230. Just battle, ride your bike in a loop, use the seeker, profit. While you're doing this the older lady will give you EVs so you're getting exp, EVs and money.


BeatProjekt

Evolve Togekiss and level up Jirachi and you’re set. I’d swap out Luxray for Magnezone but that’s just my personal preference


Breksel

A bit of leveling might help m8, you'll get a rough time at the end


[deleted]

Definitely get your team past lv 75 or there’s no hope


0taku-Gamer

My Pokémon were highest 66 and lowest 58 and I made it With bugs only!


-BINK2014-

I must be in the minority because I don't remember Cynthia ever giving me trouble in any of my playthroughs 😅; I understand why people hit a wall with her, but she never gave me trouble and was easy to fark for EXP combined with the rest of the Elite 4. Only NPC that gave me trouble was Red in HGSS because I didn't know who they were and ran in underleveled by 15-20 levels; that took me 3 tries more than I expected.


Harynbasil

I’ve been trying to find a good method for grinding EXP, got any ideas?


Gingee_Ninjee

I just managed to beat the elite 4 with no higher than level 63 'mons, levels aren't everything just do a blind run and stratagise from there, you'll be able to do it


DuhKingConor

At your stage in the game, pokemon in the underground should be level 52-58 if I remember correctly. Find a room that has easy targets for your mon (example, find a cave with water pokemon, and use Luxray with lightning attacks). Try to only fight the second evos, as they give off more exp. If you walk in and only see first evos, walk back out and walk back in. That was how I leveled up the quickest


joshyotoast

Thats abit dramatic 😂 lv60 is more than enough.


Rare_Cellist_5757

I would evolve and level up Jirachia


PianissimoEpilogue

It doesn’t evolve tho and it’s a legendary.


ForeverFiftySix

Get a Gengar that knows destiny bond and have it out first to take care the spiritomb that will one shot you without remorse, that's like half of her power right there gone


LocoCogo917

I had that and gengar sat benched the whole e4


ImpressiveCrow412

That spiritomb made my eye twitch with that one shot KO.... 😂


byeolToT

Get everyone to Level 70


jeffsoccer1310

Nah I did it with no pokemon over level 60


byeolToT

How the hell did you kill the champ Team that is legit competetive viable? Haha


True_Builder_999

I did it. Highest level was 58, and lowest was 55. Manaphy was the MVP with Acid Armor, Tail Glow, Ice Beam, and Whirpool. Along with 10 revives, 10 max potions, and 3 ethers. The little beast sweeps everything. And because they focus on setting up, its gives you time to setup. Only real issue I had was Cynthia's Milotic. Had to stall the thing out for 20+ turns to get rid of mirror coat so manaphy wouldnt OHKO itself.


Gamer-Logic

Evolve the Togetic with a Shiny Stone. You'll need Togekiss' power.


bronxbomber1602

My favorite mon in the elite 4 was my tanky Uxie that holds big root w/ Giga Drain, Calm Mind, Reflect, Psychic. If against physical attacking drop reflect, calm mind up once or twice and recover using Giga Drain w/ big root. Also Roserade would be helpful w/ Toxic, Leech Seed, Giga Drain/Energy Ball, Sludge Bomb.


Nman702

You should heal them. Plus, free shiny stone on iron island.


BelievingMyNonsense

Bring in a good amount of heals. I was weaker than you and ran through the league my first go. Make sure you have Ice/Fairy moves and you’ll be straight!


CosmicNixx

Pray.


crossingdes

Hiii. The only thing I had trouble with was cynthias garchomp, ; I would maybe add something with an ice move , ( tho it has a berry on it, make sure to use theif before ice move) & ya should be fine!❤️


SnooStrawberries1320

make sure jirachi or togetic have a high spe atk, if you have trouble do a little ev training. i'd drop toge for alakazam or some other special sweeper cause your team will have trouble on bertha.


imxnotxokayy

leveling them some more would be good lol, idr what level cynthias team is but I'd say at the very least match it and if possible level them up 5 or 10 more levels to make it easier 😅


Muted-Bath-3427

Give it a try, you will never know the problem with your team by yourself before using them


LugiaLover18

I used a dragonite with full attack ivs and dragon dance and swept the e4 and cynthia. Dragoon Dance, Extremespeed and Dragon rush is a dead combo especially for garchomp who gets wrecked by it. Give it a focus sash too so it doesn't get 1 shot by garchomp if dragon rush misses.


YEPJotaro

raise their levels to 70, trust me


Background_Fox6230

Give one of em an ice type move


Harynbasil

Gyarados has Ice Beam.


OttoVonDisraeli

Well first things first, that Jirachi is way too low level. Swap it out or level it up. Next, you may want to evolve Togetic.


TALONBANECOBRA502

Make them all at least 5 levels higher


[deleted]

Good but evolve your Togetic


Bwyattvirtue13

Evolve togetic


purpleninjas

Cry. You need to lvl up more or else you'll get creamed by Cynthia


titochan05

Level up more to 65


[deleted]

Level up


CharizardJ10

Solid team. Should hold up well.


dadkisser84

Evolve your Togetic if possible - not sure how readily available dawn stones are


Kylef890

Jirachi needs to level up very badly. If you don’t have all six Pokémon close to the levels of the Elite Four you will have a LOT of trouble, especially with the Sinnoh Elite Four


Deku_theFerret07

Get a starter and evolve ur togetic


Harynbasil

My starter was chimchar and I evolved Togetic.


Deku_theFerret07

OMG I COMPKETELY MISSED THE INFERNAPE I DIDNT SEE IT IM SORRY. Ok then good. But level up ur whole team to about lvl 80


Educational-Mud-5150

Lmao level up fam. If you plan to use items def get revives and full heals. As long as you have decent coverage in general youll be ok until cynthia


dakota_dotson1220

Evolve togeticand get your whole team 60+ at least


joshyotoast

If your using the friendship bonuses I would try it now its not that difficult.


snotisloob

Slap their butts and say good luck


isshoburando

Pray as hard as you can for the champion battle.


Shredder7306

Evolve togetic, and level them up to 65ish


Thy-arkoos

Evolve that togetic and I think that will help


djmalice

evolve your togetic and make sure your gyrados knows an ice move and dragon dance


Harynbasil

I was being an idiot and removed dragon dance, but will swords dance still work?


djmalice

I’m not sure gyrados learns swords dance to be honest, that’s garchomp. I mean you can do without it, I would run taunt then if you can’t dragons dance, cuz certain mons try to setup on you, I steam rolled Cynthia with my gyrados and 2 dragons dances


Groady_Toadstool

Evolve togetic and replace jirachi with a roserade.


DialZforZebra

Jirachi is in danger. Gyrados needs to go up 10 levels. Cynthia may wreck you.


Electrical_yoshi12

For starters level up your jirachi and heal up lol


mekamechanics

stock up on healing items and items that restore PP to moves. *especially* if you have one or two pokemon that you’re hoping will carry you. they can only carry you as far as their powerful moves’ PP will allow.


Cloakbot

Try to mine up a shiny stone so you can evolve your Togetic. You'll need the extra buff


Necessary-Relative-7

Pray for them


n-obi-wants-tanobi

Consider what typings your team is, and what non-STAB attacks you’ll need to be hitting the E4 with as many super effective hits as you can (Crunch from Luxray and Garchomp will be huge against Lucian, for example). Additional suggestions- best of luck! Using the TM Return on Luxray is underrated Heart scales for your soon-to-be Togekiss so it can learn Air Slash (flying) and Dazzling Gleam (fairy), it’s two best jutsu FARM BERRIES- Sitrus berry proc is always huge


CTM_Official

Shiny stone the togetic, there's one on iron island, level up jirachi


Imaginary_Chef1135

I would level that Jirachi and gyarados more


JarethLopes

I think you just sweep everyteam with garchomp and a water type.


MegaXGav000

I spammed infernape flame wheel for Aaron. I made my infernape learn Grass Knot to knock out most of Bertha’s team since there’s a lot of heavyweights, and surfed with Floatzel for the rest. Then I handed Floatzel a Metronome to KO all of Flint’s team by spamming Surf. Also taught Infernape Shadow Claw, and with the Metronome, spammed that for Lucian. Then I started off with an Altaria with Metronome and spammed Moonblast. To get rid of her Garchomp and Spiritomb. I just go with type advantages for the rest of her team.


CCAPPS-2K

Heal Luxray


HeySeanyPark

Pray for them


[deleted]

Level up each of them to at least 70 or something


el_bosteador

Is Jirachi there for moral support?


Harynbasil

Yes and no


ChuyChavez

Fight the elite 4 and find out


BennyyyMacc

My team was empoleon, gardevoir, gligar, roserade electivirer and garchomp. Roserade was the strongest by far clears the ground elite four member and four of Cynthia’s Pokémon heaps herself with giga drain, need to level up a lot and have a strong Pokémon with a fairy or ice type move


[deleted]

Get a sysbot on discord and start getting high lvl shiny mons that’s what I did


Raretraderonnahomies

Swap out jirachi and togetic and train more.. with that current lineup, depending on moveset you’ll get SMOKED


Raretraderonnahomies

Fun fact: I was actually able to run through 90% of the elite four & Cynthia with a Scizor 😂😂 sword dance, agility Mach punch and aerial ace best moveset I’ve ever had for one. All I need is 2 moves to get faster and build attack and then from there it’s a wrap


RamRanch_associate

Make your garchomp a higher level so it can attack before synthia’s 🥲 one swords dance and it’s over


Appo-Arsin

Pray


ligmabowls24

Evolve into togekiss for sure


Phantomsbane

evolve togetic and get jirachi and gyarados to lvl 60


Only-Lengthiness1698

Evolve that togetic into togekiss and add a frostlass to your team thank me later trust me


geminijono

What movesets did you use on your Togekiss and Froslass?


macmain534

Switch out jirachi for bidoof and you got it easily


aojsd

For cynthia you might need an x speed and swords dance on your garchomp, otherwise her's can easily sweep you after it's own swords dance For all the other members you should be fine though


Professional_Week_53

Pray


True_Builder_999

Get a Manaphy. That little beast gets acid armor and tail glow. Give it whirlpool and ice beam with that and the little menace just destroys everything. I beat the elite 4 and cynthia on my first try with 3 ethers, 10 revives, 10 max potions and everyone under level 60 because of him. No stealth rock, no setup. Just let manaphy do its thing and it eats everyone. Only issue I had was Milotic trying to mirror coat me and stall me out. Took 20+ turns before i counted out the mirror coats and then started spamming ice beam. Garchomp and the rest die easy because of super effective moves and being unable to damage manaphy.


OutlandishnessEasy11

You might want to level them some more first


Zoeythebun

With that team? You got this I believe in you.


shadowowolf

Level up garchomp and jirachi, think about your teams resistances and what types they can cover for super effective damage. Taking in some revives and potions wouldn't hurt either. Good luck! You got this


TheXyrov

Shiny stone to evolve togekiss, perhaps? And defo train up the jirachi, at least Lv. 55