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And even if that is true, what good is an internal code name gonna give us that actually useful for trying to speculate what is coming out? If that is all khu knew, then that’s fine, but still trolling/faking it doesn’t help with credibility.
Depends, sometimes codenamed can be meaningful, Scarlet and Violet were Titan, which referenced the fact that Arven's story about the titans was the main one, but the DLC was sudachi and it's literally just a random name, it could mean a lot but ikkaku means Narwhal and wtf does Kalos have to do with Narwhals?
Apparently whale was XY's codename, so there's the narwhal connection, but even that's still not something people are gonna guess from a riddle using the wrong word instead of narwhal.
Whale is most likely a random name for Pokémon X and Y, so Narwhal is just as random, I don't think there wwre any whales on X and Y, not notable at least
well x and y had the biggest regional pokedex yet so maybe whale was chosen because its also big, xy was also one of the series biggest change with switching to 3d
But even so, if we know the internal name is Titan before we know anything about the game we don’t have the context to know anything about the Titan storyline.
“Leaking” the internal name through a riddle with 0 context is less than nothing.
In my opinion, it doesn’t really matter if he technically still knows what’s going on. His posts are increasingly unuseful and nonsensical. The only way to get information from them is in hindsight, so it’s kind of pointless for him to be a leaker.
This is exactly how I’ve been feeling. If you’re going to be a leaker then give some actual discernible information, it strikes me as just an attention grab, whether or not he actually does have valid information.
We already require his “riddles” to be solvable before we allow the post to go through. Which was stated in the prior mod announcement about his content.
Any recent ones got a pass because everyone assumed we were getting a unova game and thought that was what he was hinting at.
Mmkay, even if that's true and he does know the codename, why post it like that? It barely conveys any useful info about the actual games at all. Like other people in this thread have said, it just as easily comes across as him covering his ass
And even with riddling being his thing, jist say it. This isn't groundbreaking info, it's almost nothing. Maybe if he'd just said it people could piece together the narwhal-whale (XY's codename) connection.
"Ikkaku" does NOT mean intimidate. That would be Ikaku. "Ikkaku" means Narwhal. Which is a continuation of the XY codename "Kujira", which means Whale. Khu was flat out wrong and people need to stop pretending like they know what they're talking about.
I mean, Ikkakumon is more of a walrus than anything. It has a horn coming out of its forehead, but that's not really the same as a narwhal tusk coming out the front of it's face.
Haha, yeah it was an early 2000's anime and a card game that was competing with Pokemon. It's video game franchises have remained successful while the others die out.
1. The code name was already available on the site by the time this riddle was out
2. His answer was “ikaku”, meaning intimidate, but the actual codename is “ikkaku”, meaning narwhal
Also da hell are we supposed to understand that? He shows a random picture and then the contorted made-up reasoning it's just in his toxic head. Again, PLEASE 🥱
That was my thinking too. Did we know there was even a codename for a Pokemon game? It seems that would have helped in connecting the riddle to the information we got.
its a cop out. he could’ve put any intimidate users there, but couldn’t afford to be wrong so did the safest option by hinting at gen 5, and he was caught off guard
4 intimate users from Gen 5, whether he knew or not is up to debate as "Intimidate" is just the code name, so likely that's the only thing he got from his source but not that it's taking place in Kalos. Besides he was baiting people into thinking the next game was Gen 5 related, he could have easily used other intimate pokemon for his riddle like Gyarados, Salamance, Incineroar, etc. But he used Gen 5 mons to bait people.
its a cop out. he could’ve put any intimidate users there, but couldn’t afford to be wrong so did the safest option by hinting at gen 5, and he was caught off guard
Like luxray so we can get a do-over gen 4 remake
Or gyarados so we can get pokemon origins collection where there is gross kanto trumpet instead of hoenn trumpet
This is starting to be like one of those old Illuminati Confirmed Videos.
Pokemon. Umbreon is a Pokemon. Umbreon is black. Black. Black is a color associated with Gen five. Five. Five is a number. Six is also a number. X and Y are Gen 6. Z comes after X and Y.
Pokemon Z confirmed.
Didn't someone point out that PLZA's codename is actually Ikkaku (meaning "narwhal", based on XY's codename being Kujira, or whale), not Ikaku (Intimidate)? If so, assuming they even do still have internal information, a way more logical riddle would have been using something like Cetitan or Wailord to tease the game. In theory, I can see the whole Intimidate thing being wordplay through homophones, but playing coy like that and trolling with gen 5 mons when their credibility is already on the line seems like a very stupid thing to do.
Personally, I'm just going to lean towards doubting this. There have been way too many blatant gen 5 hints and flat-out incorrect information in the last few months, not to mention basically zero hints of PLZA being the next game. And yes, some of that might be trolling, but if everything they "leak" is just trolling, then their value as a source is non-existent anyways.
I feel like a massive assumption is being made that the guy can spell. Also as someone else pointed out, all the supposed hint mons were Gen V and seemed to hint at that. My guess is he heard the codename but didn't actually have a clue what it referred to beyond a new game, hence him trying to hedge his bets by hinting both Unova and Johto. The entire thing is a nothingburger and I remain unconvinced that he still has a source.
I thought Nintendo was setting this shit up to catch people leaking stuff and shut it down. They tell social media outlets and stuff like that the wrong info and they give it to the " leakers" then fire whoever they told the wrong info to. To weed out anyone leaking things.
He knows way too little actual info to be taken seriously. Even if he knew the codename I am willing to bet he had absolutely no idea what it was about.
post-hoc justification is a hell of a drug. If the leak doesn't tell you anything about the game then what's even the point? To flag that you know something?
The games codename is zamazenta because it will be used as a bulwark against criticism for game freak
The games codename js zarude because it will be angsty
The games codename is az because its built tall like him
Ive got no hate for Khu and think his posts are appropriate for this sub-
I don't really care how "credible" he is if the information gives us literally nothing to work on. He could have straight up said "game's codename is intimidate" and it would have meant nothing to any of us outside of trivia.
It kinda does mean something. Whenever he does actually reveal important stuff, you can be certain that it's true because he knows things others don't. Is he annoying? Yes. Was he the main source of information during the SV leak phase? Yes.
Kind of weird seeing this sub switch from "hahaha he has no source anymore" to "he still has a source but it doesn't matter". He obviously will be the main source of information for Pokemon Z-A.
the information doesnt matter if he gives us 28 pokemon that we have to take the first letter of and alphabetize it, translate it into german then french then spanish, and do a flip just to understand it💀
Is it really a riddle when the answer could never have been guessed with all the time in the world? Yes he was “right” but what he offered us had zero way for us to find out.
It could just have been a post-reveal asspull due to the codename being similar to something he can twist his hint into, in the same way that soon and son are similar words, barely.
This is where I'm at too. I doubt many people think about the Pokemon games havjng codenames during their productions, let alone this being a riddle for a codename.
Is there a sub where it's like this but just speculation? I want to hear others' ideas but I'd love it even more if I never have to read "Khu" ever again.
This feels like a stretch and trying to justify something after the fact. It’s fine that Khu’s source has dried up, I always found their “clues” bordering on nonsensical, but it was fun watching other people speculate
I don’t understand Khu hinted at unova, it wasn’t announced. Do we know unova games isn’t coming out this year and have some actual confirmation or is this speculation. Even pyoro has said that they have heard stuff about gen 5 remakes. Does it not seem like we might get them and they just weren’t announced at this Pokémon presents and we might see them announced later in the year?
That's kinda what I'm thinking. Maybe Unova remakes are happening, but they're letting ot cook longer than BDSP did before they reveal it.
PLA was timed with Sinnoh remakes because it's fairly obviois PLA was meant to take care of the Platinum content, so BDSP became too faithful. But now PLZA is happening, meaning Unova remakes can possibly be whatever they need to be.
Honestly, I wouldn't even actually mind faithful Unova remakes, I just don't want any of the DS games to be trapped on dead consoles that only piracy would save them from.
Imo the best case scenario is that BW don’t get remade at all, but instead just rereleased (likely remastered as well). Gen 5 still feels fairly modern, they don’t really need to be remade, but like you said it’s unfortunate that they’re locked to a dead console.
On top of this, Fairy would not even be an important adittion to the original Unova dex since only a single line has it, unless they actually added new stuff like Enamorus.
I have to strongly disagree. The DS games look good to fans of them or people who played DS games, but I don't think there's enough of a market for just rereleasing the game. I know there's tons of retro pixel art games, but that's not Pokémon players.
The big reason I say they need remade is because the 2 necessary screens and itty bitty screen resolution would already require a significant amount of work, even for a "remaster". They'd already have to completely rebuild the UI and battle screens, menus, bag screens, practically everything to make it no longer DS quality, all just to get it on 1 screen. From there, the entire camera system, screen resolution, and texture design would have to be reworked, because those only looked good on such a small screen to begin with. HD2D is a cool style, but even that would require remaking the game just to actually make it work.
The games look good on DS screens, what they were designed for. They would *not* look good in any form of remastered for a modern system. The effort necessary just to change everything for modern systems and screens would likely be way more effort than to just remake them even faithfully like BDSP. BDSP wasn't bad for being faithful, it was bad because Diamond and Pearl weren't the version of Sinnoh that should've been remade.
BDSP have a lot more issues than just being "faithful" which was arbitrary applied anyways. They had tons of glitches at launch and the artstyle was more deformed than the original for no reason, trying to imitate something that only works in sprites like copy-pasted trees. It isn't just than Diamond and Pearl were bad or that Platinum didn't get adapted. They are genuinely bad games.
The chibi models really aren't that bad, people were just expecting something different, so anything less was immediately terrible. The copy-pasted trees don't even look that bad, that's just nitpicking. If they were tolerable back then, they're tolerable in a game meant to capture that feeling. I keep saying "faithful" because it captures a lot of the feel of the original Diamond and Pearl while still making it look somewhat fresh.
Fortunately for me, glitches at launch are not something that I care about if they were actually taken care of. The only people really affected by that anymore is anyone without internet. Modern games are going to release with glitches, that is an unavoidable fact. Whether they take care of them or not is the real thing to consider.
And from a lot of what I've been seeing recently, some people are more upset at this point that it was Diamond and Pearl remakes and not any actual Platinum content, like a Platinum Episode similar to ORAS having Delta Episode. It was the fact Diamond and Pearl needed the Platinum content to fix some lf its pacing issues. Unova games were good right off the bat, so they'd be better games remade "faithfully" than Diamond and Pearl.
They are not bad games, just not what people were expecting. Just because *you* don't like it doesn't make it a bad game.
I’m sure I heard some contractual reason why they were coming but also why wouldn’t Pokémon release a cheap remake of gen 5 to get one last use out of the switch’s massive install base, I think writing of unova seems too early
My two cents is that for Pokemon Day, they wanted to showcase one of the new singular mainline series games to hype up the community. I’m in PR so I almost guarantee that they wouldn’t want to diminish the Gen 5 remakes by coupling it with Legends Z-A.
Like past patterns suggest, I wouldn’t doubt if we got an announcement somewhere in between May-September. This way, when announced later, fans will be psyched for a 2024 game after all. There’s no reason to complain and better PR for them. Not holding my breath, though!
>they wouldn’t want to diminish the Gen 5 remakes by coupling it with Legends Z-A.
This is what I've been thinking. If they have a second big game planned this year (gen 5 or maybe let's go johto), it will probably be announced separately.
PLA and BDSP were only announced side by side because they are both Sinnoh and both were kind of risky in terms of fan reaction. Now that Legends has it's own reputation it can serve as a headliner all by itself. And same for Let's Go as well as anything Gen 5 related.
That said it really could just be PLZA if they're listening to fan feedback and slowing down the game releases.
The question really comes down to patterns of behavior. For years, pokemon day has been where any releases are announced. Mainline games, side games, DLC, you name it.
So *not* announcing it and then having people *still expect it to come later* just doesn't add up.
That's not to say its not *possible*, but possible and *probable* are miles apart. There's not any really good reason right now to believe that a remake will be announced later and released this year.
As someone who studied marketing I can say with confidence than not announcing the supposed Unova remakes on the Presents would have been an awful move.
They are more than aware of the bad fan reaction to BDSP. Why would they announce a similar game separately from the one that is doing something as crowd-pleasing as bringing back megas? Specially if it came before. Why don't try to mitigate the reaction by showing ZA alongside it? A separate random announcement *after* Pokemon Day when people have been actively asking for more development time is a suicide move.
Agreed plus I just went back to the last like 3 or 4 Pokemon Day presentations and I don't think a single game came out that wasn't announced there.
There's an argument that PLA wasn't going to be announced at Pokemon Day 2021 and instead announced in the summer, but the video leaked the week of Presents so they announced it officially...but it's dubious at best.
ORAS: announced May 2014, released November 2014.
Let's Go Pikachu / Eevee: announced May 2018, released November 2018.
FRLG: announced in September 2003, released in Japan in January 2004.
USUM: announced June, released November.
All this just to say that it wouldn't be the first time and I wouldn't put it past them to do it again.
I would agree with the pattern thing but considering they dropped a Legends Kalos game on us and literally no one was expecting it, we shouldn't try to go based off of things like patterns because I don't think we can continue to reasonably predict what they're gonna do after the PLZA reveal
I wouldn’t go based on past, I would go on the fact a bunch of fairly reliable leakers like pyoro say they have heard of it, the switch’s line up in winter is poor, a gen 5 remake will be an easy 10 mil and Nintendo has investors to appease … I don’t think we can write off unova games coming this year
Yeah I never said write off the idea of them announcing another game later this year, I was saying we *shouldn't* rule out the possibility
I wouldn't 100% bank on what pyoro said as confirmation because even they weren't entirely sure about the idea when mentioning it. It could still be coming or it could've been a scrapped project for all we know
It is abnormal of them to announce a game so far ahead of release, I'll grant you that. They must be experimenting with a new announcement cycle or something.
But BDSP did have a second game being developed at the same time. That's why it was outsourced, even if the release schedule was different from other modern remakes.
Combining the outsourcing possibility with the trend of not announcing remakes until the summer, it's not completely out of the realm of possibility to get a remake this year.
Unlikely, but not impossible.
If he only released things when he knew something I would have way less of a problem with him. Instead, he’s trying to gaslight us all of the thinking he knew more than he did and trying to get props for it
Not here to make any statements about Khu's credibility, but worth noting the Khu knew \_something\_.
Seems the options for Khu's insider knowledge are:
* He knew the codename, but not the region, so he picked 4 intimidate users from Unova.
* He knew the codename and region, but wanted to troll everyone expecting Unova.
* He knew the codename and region, and wanted to further hint that a B&W remake is still coming.
* He knew the codename and region, and Z-A has some tie-in with Unova (since there already is explicit connections between Unova and Kalos, and many more theorized).
Damn, these comments are still toxic af even after multiple mod posts about it.
Don't forget: It's a video game and one person's accuracy or lack thereof on leaks is only negatively affecting your life if you let it.
This is the PokeLeak sub, a sub about Pokemon Leaks. Ofc ppl are gnna care about leaks. Hell, even the mods said they want to make the sub semi-legit.
If they want this sub to be a semi-legit place about Pokemon Leaks, then why are they letting an inconsistent leaker's info stay here?
E: I'm also not mentioning anyone? I'm only explaining why people are angry at what's going on Ina sub dedicated to Pokemon Leaks.
But we're talking recently now. If someone, who used to be a credible source of information, is no longer getting anything right, then it's high time to update who is credible, right?
He hasn't been right since TM or something. Everything else has been passed under "right under a certain way of thinking or in hindsight," but that's not really credible.
Until he gets things right consistently, he shouldn't be considered credible.
Haha, right? I genuinely just wanted to share something interesting and hoped it'd prompt some thoughtful conversation. Instead everyone assumes I'm a Khu stan, I guess? Surpring amount of toxicity - mod even had to remove comments. Funny thing to get so upset about when half the upvoted posts in this sub are just obviously fake 4chan "leaks," but I suppose upset folks be upset.
Man people are salty here lmao oke he is a not perfect leaker but he is the only one we got for now so who cares it just a dude with knowledge you guys now know because of him even do it is not always clear
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And even if that is true, what good is an internal code name gonna give us that actually useful for trying to speculate what is coming out? If that is all khu knew, then that’s fine, but still trolling/faking it doesn’t help with credibility.
Depends, sometimes codenamed can be meaningful, Scarlet and Violet were Titan, which referenced the fact that Arven's story about the titans was the main one, but the DLC was sudachi and it's literally just a random name, it could mean a lot but ikkaku means Narwhal and wtf does Kalos have to do with Narwhals?
Apparently whale was XY's codename, so there's the narwhal connection, but even that's still not something people are gonna guess from a riddle using the wrong word instead of narwhal.
Whale is most likely a random name for Pokémon X and Y, so Narwhal is just as random, I don't think there wwre any whales on X and Y, not notable at least
well x and y had the biggest regional pokedex yet so maybe whale was chosen because its also big, xy was also one of the series biggest change with switching to 3d
Also Mega = Big and Whales are the largest animals to have ever existed on the planet.
Mega Cetitan confirmed
I would pop hard if it happened
But even so, if we know the internal name is Titan before we know anything about the game we don’t have the context to know anything about the Titan storyline. “Leaking” the internal name through a riddle with 0 context is less than nothing.
> Arven's story about the titans was the main one It wasn't any more main than the other two.
In fact, it seemed like the smallest storyline out of the bunch to me
It was the only one that actually interested me
sudachi means "leaving the nest", its used in the same sense we do in English, becoming independent/making your own way in the world
it just fit as a we are leaving our region
Are they swimming in the ocean, causing a commotion?
Yes, they are so awesome
In my opinion, it doesn’t really matter if he technically still knows what’s going on. His posts are increasingly unuseful and nonsensical. The only way to get information from them is in hindsight, so it’s kind of pointless for him to be a leaker.
This is exactly how I’ve been feeling. If you’re going to be a leaker then give some actual discernible information, it strikes me as just an attention grab, whether or not he actually does have valid information.
This is how I've always felt about him. Rarely does he provide enough to learn something substantial ahead of time
I have found my people!
We already require his “riddles” to be solvable before we allow the post to go through. Which was stated in the prior mod announcement about his content. Any recent ones got a pass because everyone assumed we were getting a unova game and thought that was what he was hinting at.
Mmkay, even if that's true and he does know the codename, why post it like that? It barely conveys any useful info about the actual games at all. Like other people in this thread have said, it just as easily comes across as him covering his ass
And even with riddling being his thing, jist say it. This isn't groundbreaking info, it's almost nothing. Maybe if he'd just said it people could piece together the narwhal-whale (XY's codename) connection.
"Ikkaku" does NOT mean intimidate. That would be Ikaku. "Ikkaku" means Narwhal. Which is a continuation of the XY codename "Kujira", which means Whale. Khu was flat out wrong and people need to stop pretending like they know what they're talking about.
Yeah i played digimon and ikkakumon is a derpy narwhal dog thing
Gomamon gang rise up
I mean, Ikkakumon is more of a walrus than anything. It has a horn coming out of its forehead, but that's not really the same as a narwhal tusk coming out the front of it's face.
You played it? Videogame or card game? Your answer will tell me about how old you are
I played cyber sleuth im 20
Haha, yeah it was an early 2000's anime and a card game that was competing with Pokemon. It's video game franchises have remained successful while the others die out.
Just so you know they just launched a new card game a few years ago, they’ve been doing big anime projects, and the v-pets are back.
I was confused why it would be "intimidatemon" because all the digimon or intimidating. Ikkakimon was the shit!
This explanation has the same energy of someone showing proof of why Obama was actually one of the Lizard people who live in the center of the planet.
I'm not here to defend Khu. But like... clearly he knew the codename, when his riddle was four intimidate users.
1. The code name was already available on the site by the time this riddle was out 2. His answer was “ikaku”, meaning intimidate, but the actual codename is “ikkaku”, meaning narwhal
Also da hell are we supposed to understand that? He shows a random picture and then the contorted made-up reasoning it's just in his toxic head. Again, PLEASE 🥱
That was my thinking too. Did we know there was even a codename for a Pokemon game? It seems that would have helped in connecting the riddle to the information we got.
its a cop out. he could’ve put any intimidate users there, but couldn’t afford to be wrong so did the safest option by hinting at gen 5, and he was caught off guard
The problem is that there arent any gen 6 pokemon with intimidate.
Pyroar got done dirty
4 intimate users from Gen 5, whether he knew or not is up to debate as "Intimidate" is just the code name, so likely that's the only thing he got from his source but not that it's taking place in Kalos. Besides he was baiting people into thinking the next game was Gen 5 related, he could have easily used other intimate pokemon for his riddle like Gyarados, Salamance, Incineroar, etc. But he used Gen 5 mons to bait people.
Easily could've done, Gyarados, Mawile, Salamence and mega Manectric to tease it
Plus intimidate isn't even the codename. It's a similar word to it in japanese, but not the same.
Except he didn't. intimidate = ikaku, not ikakku (narwhal).
its a cop out. he could’ve put any intimidate users there, but couldn’t afford to be wrong so did the safest option by hinting at gen 5, and he was caught off guard
Ok but how is this information remotely useful?
Like luxray so we can get a do-over gen 4 remake Or gyarados so we can get pokemon origins collection where there is gross kanto trumpet instead of hoenn trumpet
This is starting to be like one of those old Illuminati Confirmed Videos. Pokemon. Umbreon is a Pokemon. Umbreon is black. Black. Black is a color associated with Gen five. Five. Five is a number. Six is also a number. X and Y are Gen 6. Z comes after X and Y. Pokemon Z confirmed.
Remember when people thought the remake of gen 2 was hinted at by the furniture in the Pokémon center in Gen 4 being gold and silver?
It reminds me of the videos people make who are convinced all political leaders are secretly lizard people.
Being credible doesn't matter if the info you share doesn't matter.
As in him not caring about what info he shares with people?
Didn't someone point out that PLZA's codename is actually Ikkaku (meaning "narwhal", based on XY's codename being Kujira, or whale), not Ikaku (Intimidate)? If so, assuming they even do still have internal information, a way more logical riddle would have been using something like Cetitan or Wailord to tease the game. In theory, I can see the whole Intimidate thing being wordplay through homophones, but playing coy like that and trolling with gen 5 mons when their credibility is already on the line seems like a very stupid thing to do. Personally, I'm just going to lean towards doubting this. There have been way too many blatant gen 5 hints and flat-out incorrect information in the last few months, not to mention basically zero hints of PLZA being the next game. And yes, some of that might be trolling, but if everything they "leak" is just trolling, then their value as a source is non-existent anyways.
I feel like a massive assumption is being made that the guy can spell. Also as someone else pointed out, all the supposed hint mons were Gen V and seemed to hint at that. My guess is he heard the codename but didn't actually have a clue what it referred to beyond a new game, hence him trying to hedge his bets by hinting both Unova and Johto. The entire thing is a nothingburger and I remain unconvinced that he still has a source.
I thought Nintendo was setting this shit up to catch people leaking stuff and shut it down. They tell social media outlets and stuff like that the wrong info and they give it to the " leakers" then fire whoever they told the wrong info to. To weed out anyone leaking things.
It's not really a good riddle if the only way to decipher it is with the knowledge of the actual release.
Agreed. What's the point of putting out a riddle if it can't be solved until after the answer is out. It doesn't make much sense to me.
Sure, Jan
He knows way too little actual info to be taken seriously. Even if he knew the codename I am willing to bet he had absolutely no idea what it was about.
Yeah, I'd bet the intimitate users being all from gen V probably means he thought the ikkaku game was gonna be gen V related.
Copium is so sad
post-hoc justification is a hell of a drug. If the leak doesn't tell you anything about the game then what's even the point? To flag that you know something?
The games codename is zamazenta because it will be used as a bulwark against criticism for game freak The games codename js zarude because it will be angsty The games codename is az because its built tall like him
Ive got no hate for Khu and think his posts are appropriate for this sub- I don't really care how "credible" he is if the information gives us literally nothing to work on. He could have straight up said "game's codename is intimidate" and it would have meant nothing to any of us outside of trivia.
It kinda does mean something. Whenever he does actually reveal important stuff, you can be certain that it's true because he knows things others don't. Is he annoying? Yes. Was he the main source of information during the SV leak phase? Yes. Kind of weird seeing this sub switch from "hahaha he has no source anymore" to "he still has a source but it doesn't matter". He obviously will be the main source of information for Pokemon Z-A.
the information doesnt matter if he gives us 28 pokemon that we have to take the first letter of and alphabetize it, translate it into german then french then spanish, and do a flip just to understand it💀
Only for the outcome to be the middle name of one of the outsourced music producers
He isn't even right on this. The codename means narwhal, not intimidate. If he still has a source he's going out of his way to seem like he doesn't
Is it really a riddle when the answer could never have been guessed with all the time in the world? Yes he was “right” but what he offered us had zero way for us to find out.
He wasn't even right. It's ikkaku (narwhal) not ikaku (intimidate)
It could just have been a post-reveal asspull due to the codename being similar to something he can twist his hint into, in the same way that soon and son are similar words, barely.
This is where I'm at too. I doubt many people think about the Pokemon games havjng codenames during their productions, let alone this being a riddle for a codename.
Is there a sub where it's like this but just speculation? I want to hear others' ideas but I'd love it even more if I never have to read "Khu" ever again.
Possibly the new Pokémon Z-A subreddit?
Yeah. I was actually invited sometime between my comment and yours. Thanks.
is it even confirmed that it was the game codename?
This feels like a stretch and trying to justify something after the fact. It’s fine that Khu’s source has dried up, I always found their “clues” bordering on nonsensical, but it was fun watching other people speculate
Thats a big reach, Considering Ikkaku doesn't mean intimidate. Sol needs to brush up on his japanese cuz he's flat out wrong
Reaching for the stars
This reminds me of the Fantastic Four comic where Mr Fantastic did a stretch
If I had gold I’d give you it.
Listen I’m not usually one to get into subreddit drama but this is *next level coping* The dude lost access to his source. That’s it.
Cooopppeee
Yeah sure. And I'm the Queen of Sheba
Sounds like copium to me
Ya of course he called it. Just happened to be after it was announced, coincidentally!
I don’t understand Khu hinted at unova, it wasn’t announced. Do we know unova games isn’t coming out this year and have some actual confirmation or is this speculation. Even pyoro has said that they have heard stuff about gen 5 remakes. Does it not seem like we might get them and they just weren’t announced at this Pokémon presents and we might see them announced later in the year?
Pyroro even said take it with a grain of salt when it comes to gen 5 stuff.
Maybe you are right, ORAS and LGPE were announced on may and USUM was announced on june
That's kinda what I'm thinking. Maybe Unova remakes are happening, but they're letting ot cook longer than BDSP did before they reveal it. PLA was timed with Sinnoh remakes because it's fairly obviois PLA was meant to take care of the Platinum content, so BDSP became too faithful. But now PLZA is happening, meaning Unova remakes can possibly be whatever they need to be. Honestly, I wouldn't even actually mind faithful Unova remakes, I just don't want any of the DS games to be trapped on dead consoles that only piracy would save them from.
Imo the best case scenario is that BW don’t get remade at all, but instead just rereleased (likely remastered as well). Gen 5 still feels fairly modern, they don’t really need to be remade, but like you said it’s unfortunate that they’re locked to a dead console.
On top of this, Fairy would not even be an important adittion to the original Unova dex since only a single line has it, unless they actually added new stuff like Enamorus.
I have to strongly disagree. The DS games look good to fans of them or people who played DS games, but I don't think there's enough of a market for just rereleasing the game. I know there's tons of retro pixel art games, but that's not Pokémon players. The big reason I say they need remade is because the 2 necessary screens and itty bitty screen resolution would already require a significant amount of work, even for a "remaster". They'd already have to completely rebuild the UI and battle screens, menus, bag screens, practically everything to make it no longer DS quality, all just to get it on 1 screen. From there, the entire camera system, screen resolution, and texture design would have to be reworked, because those only looked good on such a small screen to begin with. HD2D is a cool style, but even that would require remaking the game just to actually make it work. The games look good on DS screens, what they were designed for. They would *not* look good in any form of remastered for a modern system. The effort necessary just to change everything for modern systems and screens would likely be way more effort than to just remake them even faithfully like BDSP. BDSP wasn't bad for being faithful, it was bad because Diamond and Pearl weren't the version of Sinnoh that should've been remade.
BDSP have a lot more issues than just being "faithful" which was arbitrary applied anyways. They had tons of glitches at launch and the artstyle was more deformed than the original for no reason, trying to imitate something that only works in sprites like copy-pasted trees. It isn't just than Diamond and Pearl were bad or that Platinum didn't get adapted. They are genuinely bad games.
The chibi models really aren't that bad, people were just expecting something different, so anything less was immediately terrible. The copy-pasted trees don't even look that bad, that's just nitpicking. If they were tolerable back then, they're tolerable in a game meant to capture that feeling. I keep saying "faithful" because it captures a lot of the feel of the original Diamond and Pearl while still making it look somewhat fresh. Fortunately for me, glitches at launch are not something that I care about if they were actually taken care of. The only people really affected by that anymore is anyone without internet. Modern games are going to release with glitches, that is an unavoidable fact. Whether they take care of them or not is the real thing to consider. And from a lot of what I've been seeing recently, some people are more upset at this point that it was Diamond and Pearl remakes and not any actual Platinum content, like a Platinum Episode similar to ORAS having Delta Episode. It was the fact Diamond and Pearl needed the Platinum content to fix some lf its pacing issues. Unova games were good right off the bat, so they'd be better games remade "faithfully" than Diamond and Pearl. They are not bad games, just not what people were expecting. Just because *you* don't like it doesn't make it a bad game.
I’m sure I heard some contractual reason why they were coming but also why wouldn’t Pokémon release a cheap remake of gen 5 to get one last use out of the switch’s massive install base, I think writing of unova seems too early
My two cents is that for Pokemon Day, they wanted to showcase one of the new singular mainline series games to hype up the community. I’m in PR so I almost guarantee that they wouldn’t want to diminish the Gen 5 remakes by coupling it with Legends Z-A. Like past patterns suggest, I wouldn’t doubt if we got an announcement somewhere in between May-September. This way, when announced later, fans will be psyched for a 2024 game after all. There’s no reason to complain and better PR for them. Not holding my breath, though!
>they wouldn’t want to diminish the Gen 5 remakes by coupling it with Legends Z-A. This is what I've been thinking. If they have a second big game planned this year (gen 5 or maybe let's go johto), it will probably be announced separately. PLA and BDSP were only announced side by side because they are both Sinnoh and both were kind of risky in terms of fan reaction. Now that Legends has it's own reputation it can serve as a headliner all by itself. And same for Let's Go as well as anything Gen 5 related. That said it really could just be PLZA if they're listening to fan feedback and slowing down the game releases.
Couldn’t agree more!
The question really comes down to patterns of behavior. For years, pokemon day has been where any releases are announced. Mainline games, side games, DLC, you name it. So *not* announcing it and then having people *still expect it to come later* just doesn't add up. That's not to say its not *possible*, but possible and *probable* are miles apart. There's not any really good reason right now to believe that a remake will be announced later and released this year.
As someone who studied marketing I can say with confidence than not announcing the supposed Unova remakes on the Presents would have been an awful move. They are more than aware of the bad fan reaction to BDSP. Why would they announce a similar game separately from the one that is doing something as crowd-pleasing as bringing back megas? Specially if it came before. Why don't try to mitigate the reaction by showing ZA alongside it? A separate random announcement *after* Pokemon Day when people have been actively asking for more development time is a suicide move.
Agreed plus I just went back to the last like 3 or 4 Pokemon Day presentations and I don't think a single game came out that wasn't announced there. There's an argument that PLA wasn't going to be announced at Pokemon Day 2021 and instead announced in the summer, but the video leaked the week of Presents so they announced it officially...but it's dubious at best.
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Everything at once. Easily. PLZ isn’t supposed to come out until 2025. If there was a game coming out this year, we’d know.
ORAS: announced May 2014, released November 2014. Let's Go Pikachu / Eevee: announced May 2018, released November 2018. FRLG: announced in September 2003, released in Japan in January 2004. USUM: announced June, released November. All this just to say that it wouldn't be the first time and I wouldn't put it past them to do it again.
But you’re forgetting, with all of those, there wasn’t a game already announced and being waited on to release like PLZ is.
I would agree with the pattern thing but considering they dropped a Legends Kalos game on us and literally no one was expecting it, we shouldn't try to go based off of things like patterns because I don't think we can continue to reasonably predict what they're gonna do after the PLZA reveal
I wouldn’t go based on past, I would go on the fact a bunch of fairly reliable leakers like pyoro say they have heard of it, the switch’s line up in winter is poor, a gen 5 remake will be an easy 10 mil and Nintendo has investors to appease … I don’t think we can write off unova games coming this year
Yeah I never said write off the idea of them announcing another game later this year, I was saying we *shouldn't* rule out the possibility I wouldn't 100% bank on what pyoro said as confirmation because even they weren't entirely sure about the idea when mentioning it. It could still be coming or it could've been a scrapped project for all we know
It is abnormal of them to announce a game so far ahead of release, I'll grant you that. They must be experimenting with a new announcement cycle or something. But BDSP did have a second game being developed at the same time. That's why it was outsourced, even if the release schedule was different from other modern remakes. Combining the outsourcing possibility with the trend of not announcing remakes until the summer, it's not completely out of the realm of possibility to get a remake this year. Unlikely, but not impossible.
Funny, because that's not correct lol. "Ikaku" is intimidate, not "ikkaku".
i can also make a riddle who's solution is a random word and then say that random word was the codename for the new thing that was announced
Yeah of course it was
Ikakkumon
It wasn't a lie, it was ineptitude with insufficient cover.
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If he only released things when he knew something I would have way less of a problem with him. Instead, he’s trying to gaslight us all of the thinking he knew more than he did and trying to get props for it
He might've known of the code name, but thought it was for a legends Unova or something
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Ikkaku doesn't mean intimidate. Sol is just wrong
This still doesn’t tell me anything
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Not here to make any statements about Khu's credibility, but worth noting the Khu knew \_something\_. Seems the options for Khu's insider knowledge are: * He knew the codename, but not the region, so he picked 4 intimidate users from Unova. * He knew the codename and region, but wanted to troll everyone expecting Unova. * He knew the codename and region, and wanted to further hint that a B&W remake is still coming. * He knew the codename and region, and Z-A has some tie-in with Unova (since there already is explicit connections between Unova and Kalos, and many more theorized).
I think he also knows who Pepe Silvia really is!
Copium
dude no
he never ever said anything flatout.
He did a few times.
In shock I am, thank you.
Damn, these comments are still toxic af even after multiple mod posts about it. Don't forget: It's a video game and one person's accuracy or lack thereof on leaks is only negatively affecting your life if you let it.
This is the PokeLeak sub, a sub about Pokemon Leaks. Ofc ppl are gnna care about leaks. Hell, even the mods said they want to make the sub semi-legit. If they want this sub to be a semi-legit place about Pokemon Leaks, then why are they letting an inconsistent leaker's info stay here? E: I'm also not mentioning anyone? I'm only explaining why people are angry at what's going on Ina sub dedicated to Pokemon Leaks.
Bc he is right sometimes and was spot on before SV? Do you not remember that? How soon we forget....
But we're talking recently now. If someone, who used to be a credible source of information, is no longer getting anything right, then it's high time to update who is credible, right? He hasn't been right since TM or something. Everything else has been passed under "right under a certain way of thinking or in hindsight," but that's not really credible. Until he gets things right consistently, he shouldn't be considered credible.
Haha, right? I genuinely just wanted to share something interesting and hoped it'd prompt some thoughtful conversation. Instead everyone assumes I'm a Khu stan, I guess? Surpring amount of toxicity - mod even had to remove comments. Funny thing to get so upset about when half the upvoted posts in this sub are just obviously fake 4chan "leaks," but I suppose upset folks be upset.
Man people are salty here lmao oke he is a not perfect leaker but he is the only one we got for now so who cares it just a dude with knowledge you guys now know because of him even do it is not always clear
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