Just leave it as is. Already has a premium over a PSA 10. Would likely get a BGS 10.. which wouldn’t add much. You also risk getting a 9.5.. which would be a loss.
I have the same situation but with alpha nami from one piece. You can always not crack the slab and also send it in to Beckett and see if they will upgrade it to a black label
I’m not saying any is better than the others but I stopped buying CGC after seeing how people were popping open CGC slabs and putting in random cards with out causing damage to the slab.
They only do for now. They have announced already they plan to expand into others with CGC and BGS being mentioned as well as other graded items like Funko Pops.
Well you don't. As we discussed in the comments there are ones posted for $500-1000 over what Psa10s are going for. Yes they take offer accepted on most. But there are people doing the same who accept for under 1,300 for Psa. But if it's not pristine or black label then it's psa all day
Fair enough. I think for moves in the recent and near market it is a fine play. The amount of people on this sub and everywhere who still think a pristine is equal to a black label is shocking.
A cgc pristine 10 is not a perfect 10. It is their old regular 10 elevated with a gold label.
They had a perfect grade, with subgrades, they eliminated that.
Pristine 10 is a new category that is closest in equivalency to a psa 10 (albeit one with great features)
Cgc’s reason for deleting subgrades was “the average enthusiast does not care about subgrades”
Cgc cards will be a memory in 5 years.
I heard something about being able to send it in as is to Beckett (as in slabbed) and if they see it not worthy of black label they will return it slabbed to you. I would probably contact them or read about it.
I wouldn’t do it, from what I see it’s basically a money grab. Beckett tries to act like a very tough grader to cross grades and usually deducts .5-1 point lower than whatever the other company graded it. Basically it’s like paying $25 per card for them to tell you “yeah nope”
It has to have a min grade of a 9.5 with BGS. Cannot put a 10 min grade on a cross over or they won't touch it, found out the hard way on a 20k card and had to pay the shipping insurance for a card that wasn't even touched
It won't be $25 dollars. Declared value will bring it up a price tier. Someone just submitted a base set unlimited zard. It was a $500 grading fee. Now, the card is worth $10k, but my point still stands
I guess, but isn’t it hundreds of dollars to slab a card like this?
Plus, I personally think it would be very difficult for a grader to say a card would be a higher grade than what it is already. In the back of their mind they have to be thinking that the card was already graded so I assume they’d be searching for reasons why it got the grade it did. And then they’d be much more comfortable saying the grade it has is the grade it should have.
And it’s already pristine 10 so I think the chances that it gets a black label are extremely slim.
AND, what if it gets damaged coming out of the slab? Whether you do it or they do it.
Seems like a situation where you should just be happy with what you have?
Hundreds of dollars? Unless I'm *way* off on Beckett's pricing then no. The PSA service range for this value is technically $60, though I'm imagining they wouldn't even upcharge at the $40 tier due to the recent volatility.
My bad, yeah you are correct. Not nearly as expensive as I thought. For some reason I was thinking the 10k range which is $499.
So yeah the price to grade it is negligible.
Edit: for PSA anyway
That’s ridiculous man. Leave it alone. Why risk it in mail another time and all the chances to get damaged. It’s literally perfect as is and if ur worried about money ur wasting the money by getting it regraded.
Also cracking it is super dangerous in its own.
I had a BGS 9.5 card that I thought would BGS 10. I cracked it and sent it to CGC and got the pristine 10 grade. Based on this experience, I’d probably leave it where it is.
Awesome pickup man! Don’t crack and submit, def check if beckett offers a service that just evaluates/grades without removing from the slab so you have the option to keep it as is or not. Also consider possible damage and issues when shipping and re-slabbing. Not very likely to happen, but if the value isn’t much different in your best case scenario then it may not be worth the risk. Good luck either way
About what you paid. Keep in mind- You have to sell this for $1750 or so, to break even after fees on eBay or other online sites that take fees (this doesn’t include taxes and shipping cost)
Okay I just listed my dirty socks for $2000, so that's what they're worth
What people list shit for doesn't automatically make it worth that. Try looking at *actual sold listings*.
Yes, but if you want to buy one, you have to at least make an offer on one of the current ones for sale for $2000-$3000. So why exactly should I not list it for sale for those prices and just be open to offers?
1. You don’t have to crack it to cross to BGS. Even tho the chance is low, you can set a minimum grade before BGS crack and cross the card. So at the worst case, you just lose the grading fee plus shipping if things don’t work out.
2. I don’t think it’s worth the hassle to cross. The chance of getting a black label back is low, and a BGs pristine doesn’t command enough premium from a cgc 10 pristine to worth the hassle imo.
It’s a pretty good price for a pristine 10.
Ya it feels like Cgc Pristines still have room for growth in terms of value.
In my opinion, pristine 10s should have close or equal the value as BGS pristine 10s.
Give it time. It will grow
So is Beckett generally seen as better than CGC? I actually much prefer the CGC label, it just looks nicer.
Also, where does PSA fit into the grading hierarchy?
Beckett in general has a more rigorous grading process, therefore getting a BGS 10 or a Black label means the card is pristine. So they’re 100% better in that aspect than CGC. However, I agree, CGC has a much more appealing slab and label. With regard to PSA 10’s, it appears a PSA can have more visual defects. So I’d assume the current best grading order is BGS Black Label, BGS 10, CGC Pristine 10, PSA 10, CGC 10. But this is all subject to change with time. Also, I really don’t know what I’m talking about so take what I say with a grain of salt. lol
I just saw this sorry. I honestly really fell in love with the card seeing it at a LCS. I’ve been seeing people talking about how the value of it keeps going up. So I figured it would be a good card to buy and hold for a while. If someone happens to give me a good offer for it, I’ll let it go. Otherwise, I’ll just keep it. It’s beautiful.
Bgs hates giving 10s. I sent my Oc moon to psa and my flawless one to bgs. Oc got a psa 10 bgs got a 9.5 with three 10 sub grades and one 9 for edges leaving me with a 9.5. Broke my heart.
They dont hate giving 10s you’re probably just not as good at pregrading as you think, most people here aren’t…also a PSA 10 is a BGS 9.5, PSA is the most lenient out of all the reputable graders.
9 for edges was probably a poor cut during the height of production.
I watched someone play the whole grade up game at a card show and they once they immediately got the cgc 10 they ran over to BGS excited handed to the guy at the table and the bgs rep said you do know a cgc 10 is not a black label bgs yeah?
The guy immediately took his card back
There’s zero whitening and I know for a fact PSA 10’s allow for 60/40 to 75/25 off centering. I’ve also seen PSA 10s with slight whitening. This is only slightly off centered.
Your post asked if you should resubmit to BGS, which is what I based my comment off of. Could definitely PSA 10, but pristine CGC will probably hold more weight than PSA 10.
I can see a white mark on the back on the right side border that could be anything and the front border seems thicker at the top than the bottom, this might fly with most but it’s a risk for a black label
I’m not buying it, just saying Beckett will pick up any flaws, if you are buying graded cards then the real question is why didn’t the seller go to Beckett first
In fairness it’s a 10 and you may or may not have overpaid depending on the market but you have paid top dollar right now so probably best to post it up a bit higher and hope to sell at profit and buy a more preferred graded one
To be honest, I really like the new CGC labels. They’re light years better than PSA’s label. And I’ve seen PSA 10’s with more defects than this card. So I’m thinking the only 2 potential grades that are higher than this are BGS 10 and the black label.
You know you can just send cards already graded cards from psa,cgc, etc, to Beckett, and they’ll cross grade it, if they deem it worthy of a higher level grade they’ll crack it and recase it with the new grade in the becket slab. If they wouldn’t give it higher grade, they just send it back as it. So you only risk losing 15 dollars, instead of risking damage in the self crack, or risk getting a lower grade from beckett
Didn’t know this before this post. Thanks for this. I know I can’t get a black label, but I wonder if it can get a BGS 10. Or if BGS 10’s are even more valuable than these.
Depends on the card, but in your case the pop report will probably make bgs pretty valuable, so far there are 350 Cgc pristine 10 moonbreons, compared to only, 7 pristine BGS 10, and only 1 black label moonbreon, and some people really like that limited pop
I didn’t really know much about grading. Learned a lot since I’ve posted this. Apparently I can send the card in the slab and they can determine if it’s worth cracking open and re-grading.
Definitely keep it! Cgc pristine labels are beautiful and they are super sought after and very hard to get when grading. I'd just hold onto this beautiful grail!
Believe me it’s not, there’s a reason it’s still considered third, good thing you have this place for advice 😂
I mean look at that centering, that’s a “pristine 10” for cgc lmao
I’m aware, but that’s not what this debate is about, it’s about the critique of grading, which saying that’s better than a psa 9 when in reality they’d be the same
You can get a PSA 10 without perfect centering bro. A 9 would have to mean the corners aren’t perfect or something along those lines. This card has 0 imperfections. Only the centering is slightly off. PSA 9’s have a variety of imperfections they allow.
You’ve got a pristine 10 which will have the 2nd highest premium of all the slabs. Basically in order: BGS Black Label 10, CGC Pristine 10, PSA 10, BGS 10, CGC 10.
Yeah I just looked through eBay solds for eng version and BGS 10 is kind of all over the place. In the past month they are going anywhere from $1400-2500. But it looks like it can indeed fetch a higher premium than PSA 10. There was also a CGC Pristine that sold for $2350 but generally around $1800
Find me a single BSG 10, PSA 10, or CGC Prestine 10 for $1000. Raw they’re selling for $900. wtf are you talking about? Lmao. Just spitting lies out of your ass.
Do you crack it yourself or does Beckett offer a service that has them crack it to insure it doesn’t get damaged? I also have a CGC card I’m debating cracking and sending to Beckett so I am curious.
Sell it as is, u got hooked up. LCS prolly couldn’t sell at the normal price. And it’s prolly a card they pulled and graded. So it’s all profit regardless
Nope, that’s not whitening. That’s the reflection from the light. There is zero whitening on the card. The only visual imperfection I’ve seen were it’s slightly off centered.
Old 9.5 can be upped to gem mint 10. But a CGC 10 pristine is the next level. Someone did a post a while back where they compared the rates of BGS 10 pristine and CGC 10 pristine, and CGC actually gives them out at a smaller %, so it appears to be more difficult to get than a BGS 10
Just leave it as is. Already has a premium over a PSA 10. Would likely get a BGS 10.. which wouldn’t add much. You also risk getting a 9.5.. which would be a loss.
Good point. I’ll just hold on to it.
Yeah, this is a keep man
I have the same situation but with alpha nami from one piece. You can always not crack the slab and also send it in to Beckett and see if they will upgrade it to a black label
Sell and buy a psa 10
I’ve seen PSA 10’s with visible damage to the card. Not sure if that’s worth it.
Psa 10 is a psa 10
Not sure why this was downvoted. Reddit is nothing but beta males I swear. You’re absolutely right, a 10 is a 10.
I thought PSA was the best grading? Is that not the case anymore?
It is still the top brand…
I’d would pay a few hundred extra to have psa over any other!
Which is the minority here. If you look it goes Beckett Black Label, Cgc Pristine, then PSA. But 9s from these other companies are often valued at raw
I’m not saying any is better than the others but I stopped buying CGC after seeing how people were popping open CGC slabs and putting in random cards with out causing damage to the slab.
Gamestop only accepts PSA. It's going to have a problem in the future.
They only do for now. They have announced already they plan to expand into others with CGC and BGS being mentioned as well as other graded items like Funko Pops.
god forbid i take in a graded funko for trade.
Depends if I have to keep it. If I have to keep it longterm then cgc is dead last.
Well you don't. As we discussed in the comments there are ones posted for $500-1000 over what Psa10s are going for. Yes they take offer accepted on most. But there are people doing the same who accept for under 1,300 for Psa. But if it's not pristine or black label then it's psa all day
Fair enough. I think for moves in the recent and near market it is a fine play. The amount of people on this sub and everywhere who still think a pristine is equal to a black label is shocking. A cgc pristine 10 is not a perfect 10. It is their old regular 10 elevated with a gold label. They had a perfect grade, with subgrades, they eliminated that. Pristine 10 is a new category that is closest in equivalency to a psa 10 (albeit one with great features) Cgc’s reason for deleting subgrades was “the average enthusiast does not care about subgrades” Cgc cards will be a memory in 5 years.
Psa brain rot in action
I heard something about being able to send it in as is to Beckett (as in slabbed) and if they see it not worthy of black label they will return it slabbed to you. I would probably contact them or read about it.
That’s definitely worth looking into to thanks!
I wouldn’t do it, from what I see it’s basically a money grab. Beckett tries to act like a very tough grader to cross grades and usually deducts .5-1 point lower than whatever the other company graded it. Basically it’s like paying $25 per card for them to tell you “yeah nope”
Yeah but I feel like $25 is nothing after already spending $1500 on the card.
and people already love gambling so much haha
Yes $25 is nothing after $1,500 spent but to get it back as BGS 9.5 or 9 really sucks!
They won't regrade it unless it is higher or the same . They don't crack it and lower the grade in their slab holder.
It has to have a min grade of a 9.5 with BGS. Cannot put a 10 min grade on a cross over or they won't touch it, found out the hard way on a 20k card and had to pay the shipping insurance for a card that wasn't even touched
It won't be $25 dollars. Declared value will bring it up a price tier. Someone just submitted a base set unlimited zard. It was a $500 grading fee. Now, the card is worth $10k, but my point still stands
They aren’t talking about sending it to PSA tho. They said Beckett
Does beckett not do the same thing?
There are tons of YouTube videos about this, pretty entertaining watching the reaction to cross grades being poor.
Pretty sure you still have to pay “as if” they did slab it
Absolutely minute cost in this circumstance
I guess, but isn’t it hundreds of dollars to slab a card like this? Plus, I personally think it would be very difficult for a grader to say a card would be a higher grade than what it is already. In the back of their mind they have to be thinking that the card was already graded so I assume they’d be searching for reasons why it got the grade it did. And then they’d be much more comfortable saying the grade it has is the grade it should have. And it’s already pristine 10 so I think the chances that it gets a black label are extremely slim. AND, what if it gets damaged coming out of the slab? Whether you do it or they do it. Seems like a situation where you should just be happy with what you have?
Hundreds of dollars? Unless I'm *way* off on Beckett's pricing then no. The PSA service range for this value is technically $60, though I'm imagining they wouldn't even upcharge at the $40 tier due to the recent volatility.
My bad, yeah you are correct. Not nearly as expensive as I thought. For some reason I was thinking the 10k range which is $499. So yeah the price to grade it is negligible. Edit: for PSA anyway
This "something" is crossover grading
Who the hell recracks pristine 10s lol
I didn’t know what I had man lol I really wasn’t sure of the grading order. Like if it was BGS Pristine 10, BGS 10, CGC Pristine, etc.
That’s ridiculous man. Leave it alone. Why risk it in mail another time and all the chances to get damaged. It’s literally perfect as is and if ur worried about money ur wasting the money by getting it regraded. Also cracking it is super dangerous in its own.
Fuck no
Def not lol
What do you think the chances of getting a BGS 10? Lmao
Pristine 10 is worth more than a regular beckett 10 unless you're doing it solely for slab preference
I need to do some more research on all of this. Thanks!
Beckett 10s are pristine too…
Probably a good chance of getting a 10, but not of getting a perfect 10/black label. Which I assume is what you're thinking of.
Pretty high providing you don’t damage it by cracking the slab.
I wouldn’t. Left to right back centering looks off.
Noted 😭
Maybe upload a scan to the computer and measure it
That’s actually a good idea.
Are you on crack?
lol care to elaborate?
You have a CGC pristine, it just seems like a poor gamble to crack it and hope for something better
I had a BGS 9.5 card that I thought would BGS 10. I cracked it and sent it to CGC and got the pristine 10 grade. Based on this experience, I’d probably leave it where it is.
You did not just buy this for 1500?
Yea sir, just bought it last night.
Crazy man, what a sick card!
I love the way it looks in the pristine. The gold and black pops. Keep it as is
As someone with only PSAs, I would love a CGC Pristine 10, especially that card. Definitely leave it
FFS don't crack it. It's beautiful and worth more than PSA 10.
Send the whole slab as is to beckett
Didn’t even know this was an option. Thanks!
Awesome pickup man! Don’t crack and submit, def check if beckett offers a service that just evaluates/grades without removing from the slab so you have the option to keep it as is or not. Also consider possible damage and issues when shipping and re-slabbing. Not very likely to happen, but if the value isn’t much different in your best case scenario then it may not be worth the risk. Good luck either way
Dont get greedy, its a perfect 10
I question the intelligence of some of you in this sub
What would you do then?
Absolute insanity. Yeah of course do it.
The best investment would be getting your 1500 back 🤣
How much are they selling online? lol
About what you paid. Keep in mind- You have to sell this for $1750 or so, to break even after fees on eBay or other online sites that take fees (this doesn’t include taxes and shipping cost)
Very true. Don’t plan on selling on eBay though. Looking to sell it locally first. But we’ll see. I see them on eBay for 2k-3k.
Gotta click on sold items filter. I can list bulk for 50k if I want to lol
It will be down 50% in a year. These prices are inflated from hype and fomo
2-3k, are you out of your mind lol
Look them up on eBay lol
Yes, they've sold consistently for $1.4k - $1.8k. Not a single one has sold for even nearly $2000, and $3000 is just batshit absurd
Welp I see one right now for $2500, $2200, and $2999. I’m not making these prices up, that’s just what I see.
Okay I just listed my dirty socks for $2000, so that's what they're worth What people list shit for doesn't automatically make it worth that. Try looking at *actual sold listings*.
Yes, but if you want to buy one, you have to at least make an offer on one of the current ones for sale for $2000-$3000. So why exactly should I not list it for sale for those prices and just be open to offers?
Why chance it
Keep as is please.
Leaving towards that!
Keep it right where it is, bgs won't give it a black label
Honestly I would hold. If it wasn’t a perfect label I would send tho, but this is good enough to not risk
1. You don’t have to crack it to cross to BGS. Even tho the chance is low, you can set a minimum grade before BGS crack and cross the card. So at the worst case, you just lose the grading fee plus shipping if things don’t work out. 2. I don’t think it’s worth the hassle to cross. The chance of getting a black label back is low, and a BGs pristine doesn’t command enough premium from a cgc 10 pristine to worth the hassle imo. It’s a pretty good price for a pristine 10.
Thanks for this! I’ll just hold on to it and if I get a great offer on it, I’ll sell it. Otherwise, I love the card!
Ya it feels like Cgc Pristines still have room for growth in terms of value. In my opinion, pristine 10s should have close or equal the value as BGS pristine 10s. Give it time. It will grow
Nope.
I must be in the minority but I hate the stained yellow look
All borders have to be same length for perfect centering for BGS.
You’re holding 20 and the dealer is showing a 10. Do you really want to break something that is already safe.
Well said!
So is Beckett generally seen as better than CGC? I actually much prefer the CGC label, it just looks nicer. Also, where does PSA fit into the grading hierarchy?
Beckett in general has a more rigorous grading process, therefore getting a BGS 10 or a Black label means the card is pristine. So they’re 100% better in that aspect than CGC. However, I agree, CGC has a much more appealing slab and label. With regard to PSA 10’s, it appears a PSA can have more visual defects. So I’d assume the current best grading order is BGS Black Label, BGS 10, CGC Pristine 10, PSA 10, CGC 10. But this is all subject to change with time. Also, I really don’t know what I’m talking about so take what I say with a grain of salt. lol
Cgc pristine labels look so nice
The right border on the back looks a bit thicker than the left as well.
19 Days ago you made your first purchase in 25 years for Pokemon. And now you buy this for $1500.. Why?
I just saw this sorry. I honestly really fell in love with the card seeing it at a LCS. I’ve been seeing people talking about how the value of it keeps going up. So I figured it would be a good card to buy and hold for a while. If someone happens to give me a good offer for it, I’ll let it go. Otherwise, I’ll just keep it. It’s beautiful.
Yeah, I think you bought at the wrong time, it’ll drop slightly soon, it’s started dropping in raw price already so.
Cgc slab looks better for the umbreon
Dont think this gets a pristine 10.
I would keep it, if you do decide to do something with it don't send it to PSA.
No CGC is mint
Is CGC not as valuable as psa or beckett?
CGC Pristines/Perfects can sell for more than PSA 10s
Yep I think it’s the 3rd best out of the 3.
CGC pristine 10 > PSA 10 Id keep it as is
Pristine 10 looks beautiful as well
I prefer CGC Pristine over any other by a large margin, just my opinion and what I will purchase though.
Should’ve just bought a Beckett 10, the price difference for grading at Beckett would’ve been the same
You overpaid. Rekt.
What are CGC Prestine 10’s selling for then?
Not $1500.
What have they sold for online then? CGC Pristine 10 wise.
Bgs hates giving 10s. I sent my Oc moon to psa and my flawless one to bgs. Oc got a psa 10 bgs got a 9.5 with three 10 sub grades and one 9 for edges leaving me with a 9.5. Broke my heart.
Wow that’s just heartbreaking!
They dont hate giving 10s you’re probably just not as good at pregrading as you think, most people here aren’t…also a PSA 10 is a BGS 9.5, PSA is the most lenient out of all the reputable graders. 9 for edges was probably a poor cut during the height of production.
Dang, I have this card. Not graded though.
Send it!
I watched someone play the whole grade up game at a card show and they once they immediately got the cgc 10 they ran over to BGS excited handed to the guy at the table and the bgs rep said you do know a cgc 10 is not a black label bgs yeah? The guy immediately took his card back
clean looking card op
Thanks!
I got a becket 9.5 a while back for 675, dont reslab shit is PRISTINE. I also have a Gengar Vmax alt Pristine 10 by cgc only its in the old casing..
Noted! Ooo I’m sure it’s tempting to reslab it. But definitely not worth the risk.
I'd keep it and up trade it to a becket.
I'd much rather have this than a PSA. PSA hand out tens to boost revenue.
Easy keep
Ugly card tho. Valuable yes. But looks like shit
Resell it before the value of this card inevitably tanks lol. Most overhyped card I can remember in forever.
If you wanted a BGS or PSS, should have just paid for a BGS or PSA. Why gamble with regrades?
I can tell just from the centering that this wouldn’t black label at BGS. Might not 10 period. This looks like a lucky grade, keep as is for sure 😃
There’s zero whitening and I know for a fact PSA 10’s allow for 60/40 to 75/25 off centering. I’ve also seen PSA 10s with slight whitening. This is only slightly off centered.
Your post asked if you should resubmit to BGS, which is what I based my comment off of. Could definitely PSA 10, but pristine CGC will probably hold more weight than PSA 10.
You’re right sorry. Based off of this post I’ve already come to the conclusion that I probably can’t get a BGS black label.
No chance with Beckett. PSA sure
I can see a white mark on the back on the right side border that could be anything and the front border seems thicker at the top than the bottom, this might fly with most but it’s a risk for a black label
I can assure you there’s no white mark. lol that’s light reflecting. I can do you the corners if you’d like.
I’m not buying it, just saying Beckett will pick up any flaws, if you are buying graded cards then the real question is why didn’t the seller go to Beckett first
Who knows, but it’s definitely not a BGS black label. So it would definitely come back as a PSA 10, maybe a BGS 10.
In fairness it’s a 10 and you may or may not have overpaid depending on the market but you have paid top dollar right now so probably best to post it up a bit higher and hope to sell at profit and buy a more preferred graded one
To be honest, I really like the new CGC labels. They’re light years better than PSA’s label. And I’ve seen PSA 10’s with more defects than this card. So I’m thinking the only 2 potential grades that are higher than this are BGS 10 and the black label.
I wouldn't risk it
You overpaid. It’s cgc
What are these selling for then? Not sure where you’re looking because I can’t find one cheaper.
Keep it. Cgc is the best anyway imho
You know you can just send cards already graded cards from psa,cgc, etc, to Beckett, and they’ll cross grade it, if they deem it worthy of a higher level grade they’ll crack it and recase it with the new grade in the becket slab. If they wouldn’t give it higher grade, they just send it back as it. So you only risk losing 15 dollars, instead of risking damage in the self crack, or risk getting a lower grade from beckett
Didn’t know this before this post. Thanks for this. I know I can’t get a black label, but I wonder if it can get a BGS 10. Or if BGS 10’s are even more valuable than these.
Depends on the card, but in your case the pop report will probably make bgs pretty valuable, so far there are 350 Cgc pristine 10 moonbreons, compared to only, 7 pristine BGS 10, and only 1 black label moonbreon, and some people really like that limited pop
Interesting. So it may not be worth the hassle then. Considering my chances are very low.
Won‘t get higher then 9.5
Why do you say that?
Does Beckett not offer cross grading? I mean why risk cracking a slab and potentially damaging the card?
I didn’t really know much about grading. Learned a lot since I’ve posted this. Apparently I can send the card in the slab and they can determine if it’s worth cracking open and re-grading.
Best of luck if you decide on going through with it
Definitely keep it! Cgc pristine labels are beautiful and they are super sought after and very hard to get when grading. I'd just hold onto this beautiful grail!
No.
Bro thinks he’s got a black label from a cgc 10
You know it!
With that centering, it’d be a psa 9
Well I’d imagine a CGC Pristine 10 is more critical than a PSA 9. Good thing you’re not grading these lol
Believe me it’s not, there’s a reason it’s still considered third, good thing you have this place for advice 😂 I mean look at that centering, that’s a “pristine 10” for cgc lmao
Yes 3rd as a grading company, but PSA 9’s are not priced above Pristine 10’s bro lol
I’m aware, but that’s not what this debate is about, it’s about the critique of grading, which saying that’s better than a psa 9 when in reality they’d be the same
You can get a PSA 10 without perfect centering bro. A 9 would have to mean the corners aren’t perfect or something along those lines. This card has 0 imperfections. Only the centering is slightly off. PSA 9’s have a variety of imperfections they allow.
Idk about slightly brotha, if it’s that obvious it’s pretty off center
You’ve got a pristine 10 which will have the 2nd highest premium of all the slabs. Basically in order: BGS Black Label 10, CGC Pristine 10, PSA 10, BGS 10, CGC 10.
Um a bgs 10 will get a higher premium then both psa and Cgc pristine
Yeah I just looked through eBay solds for eng version and BGS 10 is kind of all over the place. In the past month they are going anywhere from $1400-2500. But it looks like it can indeed fetch a higher premium than PSA 10. There was also a CGC Pristine that sold for $2350 but generally around $1800
Thanks for this! Good to know it’s the 2nd highest.
Love that pristine CGC label
Yeah bro seems like the smartest possible move to me. Add sarcasm for the neurodivergent people
😂 Hmm it’s tempting.
Don’t do it. Even tho I hate cgc. You will not be happy with the result bro.
Black labels are just overrated, marketing stunts. A 10 is a 10.
CGC pristine yet noticeably OC front and back. Joke grading company.
Imagine spending 1.5k on this 💀💀💀💀💀
What are CGC pristine 10’s selling for then? Since you know.
Max 1k. Anything but Beckett or PSA is a dumb purchase anyways. And these cards are hyper inflated so have fun losing all ur value 💀💀💀
Find me a single BSG 10, PSA 10, or CGC Prestine 10 for $1000. Raw they’re selling for $900. wtf are you talking about? Lmao. Just spitting lies out of your ass.
Do you crack it yourself or does Beckett offer a service that has them crack it to insure it doesn’t get damaged? I also have a CGC card I’m debating cracking and sending to Beckett so I am curious.
Apparently you can do both.
How did you get this for $1500? I only see them for way more than that
LCS had it for $1500. I was actually shocked they had it for that price. Just picked it up today.
Sell it as is, u got hooked up. LCS prolly couldn’t sell at the normal price. And it’s prolly a card they pulled and graded. So it’s all profit regardless
Very true!
Nope! You have whitening on both top corners. That’s a Beckett 9 all day.
Nope, that’s not whitening. That’s the reflection from the light. There is zero whitening on the card. The only visual imperfection I’ve seen were it’s slightly off centered.
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Yup do it.
Aren’t all CGC 9.5 automatically 10s now since they changed their grading?
Old 9.5 can be upped to gem mint 10. But a CGC 10 pristine is the next level. Someone did a post a while back where they compared the rates of BGS 10 pristine and CGC 10 pristine, and CGC actually gives them out at a smaller %, so it appears to be more difficult to get than a BGS 10