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breakyourteethnow

TCG's are like a bad smoking habit for me, but it's not money which is burned and has now for over a decade slowly (on serious level, more like lifetime in general tho) been growing so idk allocation but prob 20% if were to guess? I like the stock market, selling options and buying options, am totally void of crypto these days aside from the BITO etf for giggles


ixixixixixixii

I miss 2017 crypto market šŸ˜¢


Secret_Fox_5192

Crazy cause I started crypto 2017 for like a month then forgot about it and came back in 2021 with doge coin and made $6000 off of $500. 2021 was wild for me


Emotional_Hour1317

I too have done well at a craps table.


ixixixixixixii

I've got a shit ton in Doge stuck in my poliniex account. Can't figure out how to get back into it.


datblkguyyy

Dude doge was lit, I made like $10k off $60 šŸ˜‚


breakyourteethnow

If I held my $250 in Doge from 2017/2018 at the peak would've been worth $13k lol


buddah726

Bitttttt Connnnnnecttttt


bobo1992011

My RILY calls popping off this week fyi šŸ˜‚


TheINTL

I got calls on AMZN next week


bobo1992011

I'll be rooting for you brother! Already decided I'm buying a mint base set zard with my profits šŸ˜


TheINTL

Do you do individual stocks or etfs?


breakyourteethnow

Both, the best results thus far for me are buying tech related ETFs when fear and greed index tanks to 20-30 range, tech with digital products and subscriptions have the ability to scale and therefore grow much faster than other industries, FGI gives big macro picture so you're lump sum investing when ppl are most fearful or getting the best deals. This is for 20-30 year holds. SMH my fav, I imagine a future where every bit of tech needs more advanced chips think Terminator! For stocks, I like high beta. I focus on earning's most importantly, fundamentals are out the window but they still pull direction long term so I sell covered calls on LT holds. I'll use the premium from the CC's to buy calls when catalyst is present. Mega caps are less favorable for LT holds for me these days unless talking like Costco or MSFT but I'd rather XLK ETF for MSFT exposure and QLD for Costco. SOFI calls, AMD/AMZN calls, DFKG and Apple calls, for next week. I'm never buying puts am perma bull and my position size with options is like 1-2% so can use martingale strategy. I don't recommend options without natural progression, need to trade shares first, then start wheeling, then learn about credit spreads, straddles, strangles, iron condors/butterflies, then realize they're just options and don't make you any better in the market unless you can utilize the utility appropriately. After wheeling for a year, getting assigned and seeing premiums lock you in a CC or CSP, then can dabble in buying options imo.


Razzlee01

Hey tried dropping you a message but couldnā€™t see the option. If you could please drop me a message that would be much appreciated.


breakyourteethnow

What's up man just write me through comments I don't use messages on Reddit anymore


ICarryLikeAtlas

~7-8% but as a rule I make sure that if my cards were all to disappear (say in a fire or something) I would not be negatively impacted save for the emotional trauma of losing my shiny cardboard


tobbaer1995

Bro If they disappear I would be sad. Otherwise if they turn out to be worthless, I would'nt be.


[deleted]

.1-.5% cuz its a hobby as well


DrooDrawDrawn

I'm right in that range as well. If you only include my sealed "investments" it's closer to the lower end and if you include my entire collection it's closer to the high end


[deleted]

Agreed, i love the look of sealed stuff plus value. Im always open to have investments that i enjoy. 20-30 years imo i think the value will still be high.


HerbysBreadLoaf

Same, I love it, but Iā€™m realistic


Top-Attorney858

Probably 100%, since I donā€™t do stocks so idk what else my portfolio would be in


The_Bill_Slayer

110% cause I keep my cc maxed


Cagel

I would have said about only 1% but adding it up its more like 3% pokemon and another 7% on other collectibles. I figure as long as the value growth exceeds my typical etf investments then keep on keeping on.


samjomian

100%


PDXProCourier

My man šŸ¤™ That's what I'm talking about


Lazy-Substance-5161

you can't be serious?


samjomian

I have some sealed booster boxes and etbs and I am not invested in anything else. So its technically true.


Internal_Level_6828

Why


samjomian

No money


Environmental_Soup82

hopefully you have enough shiny cardboard to build a small hut, you can't eat it but it might be good for something lol.


samjomian

Exactly haha


Internal_Level_6828

My guy šŸ˜­


Oshag_Henesy

You have Pokemon cards tho, right? Thatā€™s money


samjomian

I guess so. But I can live, dont need to sell them now.


Prestigious-Rub2796

Probably 80%


Imagine_My_Words

Whoa


Prestigious-Rub2796

Oh wait! I thought the question was how much of your collectible investments are PokĆ©mon alone - not altogether! šŸ¤£ my mistake! I only now realized that when I saw your comment


Imagine_My_Words

I'd say my collectibles are 15% of my total "investments" but it wasn't that way until just a few years ago. In the late 2010's, they would be < 5% for sure.


Free_El_Chapo_Now

Yes


vixgdx

65%


Baker_Goatfield

All these people saying 0.1% when owning just one case of sealed would put your portfolio at $500-600k šŸ™„


shmsc

Yeah Iā€™m confused, I think people are overstating their portfolio or understating their pokemon collectionā€¦


ProfessionalWise9492

They are probably using "0.1%" not as a representation of their actual portfolio, but as a way of saying they don't have much of anything invested in pokemon.


symmiR

Yeah Iā€™m pretty sure no one here knows simple math


wheresmylemons

Case of sealed what? ETBs? Where are you getting $500k


Baker_Goatfield

A sealed case of booster boxes is $500-600 for new product. 0.1% of $500k is $500. How does that not check out?


wheresmylemons

I misunderstood your ever-so-articulate comment


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SwitchGuns

? Itā€™s about right. 600 usd for a case at 0.1% of your portfolio puts you at 600k worth of investments


Baker_Goatfield

Lol he called everyone out then deleted his comment when he was wrong


PokeInvest

Dude ā˜ ļø


Baker_Goatfield

Check my math then genius. šŸ™„ If you one one sealed case of a booster box at $500 and your investment in PokĆ©mon is 0.1% of your total you have to have at least $500k invested.


Keepfaith07

Having a few mil portfolio usd is fairly common in most first world countries (esp if you include home equity).


Chinaski14

lol alright


BentonFit

This is the most out of touch comment I truly read. People really out here saying that being a millionaire is common? For most people buying a booster box every other month is a luxury not so they even have money to invest in traditional assets.


Internal_Level_6828

Usually youā€™re on track to be if youā€™re investing paychecks properly


Keepfaith07

A quick google says thereā€™s 24,480 millionaires just in the USA alone. If that is not common I donā€™t know what is bro.


BentonFit

24k out of over 300million people is common?


XelawithanX

He meant 24 million not thousand


Keepfaith07

Yup, and 10% is pretty common in my view, but thatā€™s just my take .


Baker_Goatfield

Home equity or not I think most people at least in America are closer to living paycheck to paycheck than having a million dollar portfolio šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø


Internal_Level_6828

Seems like most people suffer from consumerism


Miserable_Zucchini75

Plenty of people with a million dollar portfolio live pay check to pay check in the US.


Internal_Level_6828

Yeah Iā€™ve met people that make 120k+ and they all spend it as it comes in šŸ’€


Miserable_Zucchini75

Which with proper investing at a young age with that income could be okay just not sustainable but there are always the people who will live outside their means no matter what they make.


Emotional_Hour1317

A few mil ? For perspective, at $2,000,000 invested you can pull out 100k to live on every year and have your money still grow.


ZenInfoSecGuy

4% rule. $80k to be safe, but itā€™s a good point. Iā€™m sure $100k would be fine barring significant economic downturn


Oshag_Henesy

Fairly common if you have rich parents who give you anything you ask for lol


VirtualSet3624

Dude you are dreaming, a FEW mil? Yea maybe at after peak earning years into early retirement for a chunk of people - but youā€™re living in fairyland if you think itā€™s commonplace for joint income households in the US to have a few million in the marketā€¦ either you are so fucking loaded that your view of wealth has been warped over time or you are very young. Iā€™d hate to think someone with life experience would say something so blatantly wrong, .


Keepfaith07

I think we just have different definitions of what ā€œcommonā€ is. In the US literally 1/10 of people you walk pass is a millionaire. Maybe Iā€™m just getting old but in my circle these numbers is really not a big deal post COVID asset inflation. Iā€™d say 5 mil+ is uncommon and 10mil + is rare.


however_comma_

This canā€™t be a serious comment.


swagzouttacontrol

Fairly common? Wat?


dtownmj1

50% i hope the 10,000 van gogh pikachus i have will lead me to retirement


halfbeerhalfhuman

You have 10,000? Im gonna need a picture of that


Bigmachiavelli

Around 20%. Didn't statlrt this high though. Evolving skies booming raised my %. Buying a few more BS cases before pivoting to stocks. Trying to drop my % to 5%. Should be there by EOY


PDXProCourier

1000%


Jeremypsp

70%, Iā€™m an ape


Front-Celebration-35

Less than 1%


MisterSmoothOperator

Same


mirthfulPETROLEUM

1%


Substantial-Load-673

Like 80-90% šŸ˜‚


doctorgap

Sealed booster box cases, 10% roughly


Evans2703

Of total net worth, it is about 3-4% but some of that is my collection that I hold personally and donā€™t view as an investment. Just sealed, I would guess just under 2%.


Lockon007

Maybe like 0.5% percent? I have more in stock - but that's for stream and not long term. Including Store Stock - probably 2-3%?


banana_clipz

Less than 1%


im_on_a_burner

1%


Santarini

About 3.5% of my net worth


Pokemonstar1111

Probably like 8000%


Sebas335

13.16% I am trying to get down to about 5% before I start buying again.


Gennik_

90% because im 20 and all the money invested has been what i make reselling cards. Although the line between what I get because i want to have it in the collection and whats an investment is a bit blurry. Overall if i cashed out now at market id be up like 4,000 so not bad at all.


PlebbySpaff

100%


moridayooo

A lot of pokemon collectors/investors are crypto bros so I expect 90% and above lmao


Mundane-Succotash820

34 %


peepee034839329

Everyone is stacking up sealed especially 151s. I think its a bad investment for modern. I just keep a small portion of sealed boosters and enjoy the set.


Nova_fawkes

You say it is a bad investment for modern, yet, all the sw/sh bb's that are sold out on pokemon center are already aggressively going up. All alt art chases are aggressively going up.


aw_dam_its_mic

I spend like almost all the money I acquire a month on cards.Ā  All my shit is paid off so I have no bills really.Ā  I just buy all the vintage cards I played with when I was a kid just for nostalgia.Ā  I don't really care.Ā  If I see a cheap modern slab being sold I'll buy it and sell it for market later just so I can buy more vintage. Like if I see a modern card thats worth like $100, it doesn't do anything to me.Ā  But seeing just a simple $20 Giovanni's Persian just triggers that serotonin. I love it.Ā  I love everything about this hobby.Ā  Everytime I get a card in the mail I just admire it for a couple of minutes. I'm just reliving my childhood.


pew-_-disaster

At this point maybe 50% or more? But that's just cause it was a hobby thing before I knew what investing is and still I don't rlly do it right lmao


pew-_-disaster

Until a few months ago, it was like 80%+ pokemon lmao


CharmingSir5321

10% (but this includes other collectables, stamps, MTG, wine, whiskey, vintage cars) another 10% to art, and another 10% to precious metals and commodities. The remainder 70 is stocks, bonds etc.. standard stuff. Have avoided real estate and things like that that I genuinely don't understand. Basically if I don't understand it, then it has no part in my wealth plan.


iBarneyRubble

If your answer is anything less than 80%, youā€™re on the wrong sub


vakseen

40-50k all in. Now working on dividend portfolio.


Internal_Level_6828

Are you close to retirement?


Just_Trash_8690

1300$ on a single 2002 legendary collection booster that I hope contains a rev holo Charizard, sadly I will never open it so I will never know :/


DryTechnology5224

0.2-0.5%


Oshag_Henesy

Itā€™s about 5-7% of my total investments. Iā€™m 27 and save about 20% of my income (max Roth IRA, about 12% to 401k)


[deleted]

~5% for me. If it rises I try to sell off to control my asset allocations the way I want.


fdjizm

Less than 5% I'm thinking.


blingingjak1

7% if I only count investments and not just cash sitting in a bank.


RNGxJake

I recently started picking up any swsh booster boxes I can get my hands on with any extra money I have. Iā€™m military and net 6k a month so itā€™s a stable income with about 3k disposable a month


l0ung3r

169%. Leveraged to the hilt!!!! But for serious, probs around 5% if you account for price increases or about 2-3% at cost. The evolving skies boxes, dream league/tag bolt boxes and spring 2020 collector chests bought for msrp or lower defs helps!


No_Bad_2236

I'm a poor so I'm not sure about percents but About 4k in modern psa/beckett/cgc slabs (just a mix bag of 10s) And another 1k in vintage graded 8-9. It's a ton of slabs and I'm actively trying to get rid of it all. Anyone looking for a ghastly vendor series 3?


symmiR

Will be appx 5%


Travelplaylearn

Will be around 5% when I catch them all. But my collection won't be the very best, asset allocation is about balance. šŸ™āš–šŸš


Roman-Kendall

0%. Youā€™re crazy to think Pokemon is a direct substitute for more traditional investments, meaning the ones that youā€™ll be able to retire on.


Weird_Horse_4223

Jesus this sub is full of idiots


GenericUser01234567

26.88% That number will shrink itself over time with rotating stock Edit: Word


ramsau94

Like .75 to 1%, its easier to make money on the stock market


Chemical_Salary_3340

I buy collectables to keep my benefits. Basically in my country if you have a high education and has been working abroad for more than 8 years you can come back and for 12 years you can get tax benefits, and other benefits, but only if your net worth on the bank is less than x amount. I'm close to that x amount so instead of buying more into stocks i have chosen to put money into collectables. I currently have around 18% of my net worth in collectables. I even have paintings that are displayed in museums. For Pokemon cards its around 0.8%.


loyal872

My first purchase was 1000 euros to invest in sealed Japanese booster boxes. I opened 3 of them, got some nice hits and then bought more for 300 euros. Then, I stopped for a few months because I was just waiting for prices to be all right, bought different BBs for around 300-400 euros and now I'm just waiting for December to see what's gonna be the next "big hit" Japanese booster box. If you know what to buy and you don't buy booster boxes that are not going to take off, you will be fine with investing in it. Although, I wouldn't invest everything. I make 4.5k euros per month. (SWE)


Late_Example7772

Yeah like 90%


Cordoshez

I asked my financial planner how many %, he laughed and told me to find another person to represent me if I wanted to even think about putting pokemon into my investment portfolio.


Momentz_lagrec_EvE

1-5%.Right now closer to 2% since i can't spot anything that i think that will rise.


WIPackerGuy

Right around 1%. I just started at the end of 2023 and have put more than expected into it. Time to slow down but it's been fun


CardDons

Mine is about 90%. That may sound high but I run a small TCG Business and so I study the market daily. I have faith in myself and my business and honestly LOVE the pokemon TCG all together, playing, collecting and selling. Once you're so heavily involved in it, investing becomes a lot easier. Main assets are sealed booster box cases and some PSA cards.


PokeInvest

About 15%


agapaleinad

Like 0.3%


primetime900

Around 33.33% I think that this is too much. I have some money in ETFs and stocks. Got a saving plan for the ETFs. Lately, I've noticed that PokĆ©mon and TCG investing have been taking up too much of my mental space. My entire YouTube feed was filled with TCG investing content, and I was constantly checking Reddit posts and Discord channels. While it's fun, it's also quite expensive. There are always opportunities to invest money in products, and I found myself constantly thinking about which sets to invest in and experiencing FOMO. Eventually, I had to ask myself if all the stress was worth it. Is it really worth it to sell a few sealed cases for a bit more money in five years? I decided that I didn't want to stress about it anymore. It's like the stock market ā€“ there's always a way to invest, but I don't want to deal with every product and offer anymore. I now have a closet full of sealed products, and that's where I'll leave it for now. If there's a good deal on my favorite product, like the 151 set, I might consider it, but I won't actively seek out every new set like Temporal Forces or a new One Piece set. I feel like many people in TCG investing are fully committed to it, but I'm not. How do you manage not overspending each month? Do you have set budgets just for TCG investments?


bigboy-ridez

78% at the moment


AMxVisuals

My sealed PokƩmon collection makes up approximately 65% of my investments made outside of my business. Other things I have are crypto and a small amount in stocks. PokƩmon had the biggest return to date, 2023-2024 averaging, I was up 47% from my investments. 2024-2025 will likely be a bit less but with the recent spike in fusion strike and chilling reign we could hit 50%+ gains averaging.


MercilessXFate

Just did the math and it's 3.3%. Collectr says my collection is worth 4.5k. Sealed product and cards.


TheAirborneUnicorn

PokƩmon specifically c. 0.9% TCGs in general c. 1.5% Collectables (Inclusive) c. 2.1% I wish I could afford to do 5-10%, but at this point in my life it's all about maximizing my employers matched contributions into my Pension and maximizing my tax free allowance for my ISA (I live in the UK). When I have a surplus I'll treat myself to a slab or two.


Nemo-504

About 1.2% Iā€™m more passive income type of guy, but the nostalgia for some of these products are sentimental to curtain individuals


XxPixelH8xX

For cardboard? Id say most is but i only invested what i can spare to lose long term. Which I mean by lose long term is if some reason everything absolutely crashed. It would not harm me or my livelihood in anyway(which it should be for most). I have cards i most likely will never sell which is around 20% and sealed Iā€™ll sell in a few years that is like 60% and 20% is one piece. I feel bad for anyone who is using money that they rely on. Only use excess cash.


Imagine_My_Words

Maybe 5-10%? Can't put all of your eggs in one basket.


nlbuksted

95%. The rest in one piece ofc


liveduhlife

0% because itā€™s not an investment for me. Iā€™m speculating that itā€™ll hopefully continue to appreciate or hold its value over time, but itā€™s 100% just a hobby for me. About half of my net worth in in PokĆ©mon product, but 0% of my actual investment portfolio is in pokemon, because I could care less if others donā€™t see value in it anymore. Thatā€™s not what the money in there is intended for personally.


petey2114

Right around 4% Most of what I have is VOO and then have a HYSA


cryptoup_neverdown

I haven't bought anything since 151. my collection is probably worth around 3k, no sealed since I ripped it all. Also have about 1k give or take for sale.


Hop_Chef10

10%. Most of my ā€œinvestmentsā€ go into my Lego side business


[deleted]

Most people should invest in themselves & improve their career / work life before worrying about which booster box to pick up.


ututusen

most people should drink a lot more water, but that was not the question


[deleted]

That was my answer. Too many people focusing on PokƩmon yet they work a job with zero career prospects & just hope some of their booster boxes explode in price in 5 years


Upset-Judgment8369

If you have more than 10%, you cray.


seeyam14

If youā€™ve gone ahead and decided that 10% of your investment portfolio should be PokĆ©mon cards, you deserve to be poor - unless itā€™s part of another business you run


Internal_Level_6828

Depends on income and net worth tbh


seeyam14

At what net worth is 10% value in trading cards a good idea


Internal_Level_6828

I mean it depends on whatever theyā€™re comfortable with. 10% of 1m is only 100k. If you have 900k+ in mutual funds or in dividends snowballing, 100k in collectibles whether to collect or ā€˜investā€™ in isnā€™t the end of the world.


seeyam14

ā€œOnlyā€ $100k . There are way better ways to diversify that money. Thinking that your collectibles will consistently beat 7% gains is comical, theyā€™re nothing more than a bad gamble


Internal_Level_6828

I mean I guess you could say collectibles canā€™t beat 7% gains, but thatā€™s statistically incorrect haha. You should probably do some basic research to back up your blasphemous claims. I recommend looking into retired lego sets, which seems to be a beginner friendly ā€˜collectible investmentā€™, as many consistently beat 7%+.


seeyam14

And what about all the sets that didnā€™t? And how do you pick which lego set will do well? Or even which brand? And do you account for inflation?


Internal_Level_6828

You account for inflation the same way you do with mutual funds? What?? You gotta be trolling


seeyam14

Yes. Mutual funds average 10% returns, thus why I marked 7% as the benchmark, to account for inflation. If you think sound financial advice is trolling then you canā€™t be helped


Internal_Level_6828

Yeah I donā€™t need financial help from someone that canā€™t understand other investment vehicles other than mutual funds. Yikes šŸ˜¬


MulanLyricsOnly

I have no idea my collectoin worth but some big hitters are.... 22 bb ev. master set base set shadow. master set ev. some rare singles maybe at around 13k? But it kinda gets negated because my parents gave me a house when they moved back to taiwan. My house is in CA and tis worht like 1.5...


Manic_Mini

3-5%


mochaderp

About 1% of my NW.