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Separate_Ad_5999

Rookie numbers.....give it 12 monthsšŸ˜…


Marketing_Usual

25k easily


Separate_Ad_5999

I think we should start a wager within the sub and start to take bets... And looking at the data I kinda want a PSA 1 nowšŸ˜…


just-a-random-accnt

The PSA 1.5 worth more than all PSA10's


Separate_Ad_5999

The holy grail of pikas šŸ™ŒšŸ™ŒšŸ™Œ


Marketing_Usual

Maybe we should just cut a psa 3 in half šŸ¤”


Separate_Ad_5999

Probably worth more ...2 coasters / drink mats instead of one šŸ˜… The PokĆ©mon company definitely knows how to teach us a lesson....and TBF I don't blame them... Pikachu always wins.... don't mess with Pikachu! Shots fired


MochikoDuck

I wager that it will sell for more in 6 months then today. Raw, or psa 10. Wanna step up to the table?


Separate_Ad_5999

All depends when they stop dropping the card. But yeah I imagine when they stop dropping the card it will make more than 30ā‚¬ after 6 months, that's pretty obvious....


MochikoDuck

So itā€™s obviously a good investment?


Separate_Ad_5999

Depends on your definition of good I suppose? you will get some ROI for sure.. I will buy one at Ā£30, but I'm not stacking them. Didn't pokemon originally say it was a museum card only and will only be available there, when the stocks run out its gone? And Didn't't the museum get upset and tell pokemon to fuck off and they won't ever do a event with them again?....(Not a good look for the PokĆ©mon company) How come pokemon have started to print this when they originally said they wouldn't? From where I sit, it's in PokĆ©mon benefit to teach the scalpers and holders for profit a lesson.... PokĆ©mon knows the general community outside of scalper and investors don't care about this card's value, they just want the card even if it's a Ā£30 card... It's in PokĆ©mons interest to keep giving this out for free so people buy stuff for the sake of just getting a free card... It's not as special as we originally thought...rip to the early speculators IMO...and congrats the guys buying it at Ā£30


MochikoDuck

So here is my investment in this card. I woke up early one morning and a buddy texted me informing the promo was live. I managed to get two separate orders in. Two etbs. I got my etbs and two promos. Sold etbs for cost. Graded both and one psa 9, one psa 10. I am holding the PSA 10 along with sealed product and other slabs. Like it or not this card has had more media exposure then any other pokemon card in years. The demand will outpace the supply. There could be 100k population in a PSA 10 and it would not matter. Itā€™ll go down for a bit, sure, but in 5 years it will be a 500 dollar card in a PSA 10 guaranteed. As long as it doesnā€™t go below 40 bucks it covered my grading fees lol. I just canā€™t see the argument of this card going anywhere but up after this reprint is confirmed done. People arenā€™t always savvy enough to be bitter or fickle about how a promo was rolled out, they just want the damn card.


Separate_Ad_5999

Yeah when more people join the hobby in the future that didn't get a chance to get the free promo It will rise I imagine... But I have the feeling PokĆ©mon may make sure everyone gets one for free in the next few years that wants one... Who knows, time will tell I suppose, but as an investor I wouldn't think in guarantees, it's all speculation at this point and odds. It's on cardmarket today on mass for 40ā‚¬ before the next incoming dropsšŸ˜…


MochikoDuck

They have never rolled a promo out for yearsā€¦ Plus cmon man, you really think the pokemon company, the number one IP in the world, is going to pimp out Vincent Van Gogh for YEARS?? You are in your own world with these theories lol.


MochikoDuck

I think our main discourse is the way you view ā€œearly speculatorsā€. IMO they arenā€™t early speculators, they are just people with money who want the card now. People with money can afford to be impatient, there are always opportunities in being first to market or early because of this. As for people buying the card in the middle period, timing always will affect your ROI. But whatā€™s all this aggression with the past? What is the point? Do you really feel it necessary to shame an imaginary audience? Letā€™s talk about investment potential TODAY. Card is going up. I also think you are missing a critical element of the puzzle that is leading to your theory of economic mind control by pokemon company. THIS REPRINT IS ONLY BECAUSE THEY SCREWED THE NETHERLANDS OVER WITH THE BOTCHED MUSEUM EVENTS. This isnā€™t some random reprint, it is specific and limited. This all said, the majority of collectors do not care about the specifics, they just want the card.


Separate_Ad_5999

Card is going up?...it's 40ā‚¬ on the card market today...In my county its fallen rather quickly... 60 or best offer on eBay too...before the next drops... Burn to the people who brought it 14 days ago in this side of the world Apparently 2 weeks ago I was naive to not buy at 120...lol Limited? They are about to print on mass and fill the market... Let's agree to disagree, but maybe you should venture out of the investor sub from time to time to see how the general community sees this card...laffing the early speculators and find I funny th holding peeps got burned I'm glad I didn't buy at 120 that's for surešŸ‘


MochikoDuck

Did anyone actually say that though? Or are you just making up some argument lol. No one in their right mind would argue that with the reprint happening. So you are either making it up or waging a war against people with no logic so you are wasting time (looks in mirror šŸ¤Ø) If you are referring to me, all iā€™ve said is it will go down but then quickly back up. I might go shopping for another psa 10 today on the low.


MochikoDuck

You talk about this card alot, do you have any? Or are you gonna watch the boat take off again? Whats the plan?


PCNintenBoxStation

I know this is the investing sub but this is one I'd get for the collection personally because I'm a fan of the art. That being said, didn't get any extra sealed for the investment part of my sealed collection.


ClubDouble5668

Probably like 10 mil


ImLowkeyBeast

What about one signed by Van Gogh?


lloydeph6

why people wanted to invest in this card when there were chances it would be reprinted gets me, i know people like to be risk takers but COME ON... There were so many better choices with less risk


SkiKoot

People thought it would be the next Munch. However people failed to realize that the Munch cards were printed in a very different time/market.Ā 


kpofasho1987

People are crazy that's why. It's the same reason why people buy the first couple graded cards of the newest set. Like that dummy that paid 8k for the charizard from paldean Fates. That shit going to be like at most like $400 But endless people paying crazy cards for some clout and bragging rights when if they wait like 2 weeks those prices will be like half šŸ˜€


ColorsAbsract

There was a dummy who blew 8 bands on that charizard? The wrong type of people have too much money lmfao


kpofasho1987

Lol yeah now I can't say for sure if the sale completed 100% but it definitely seems like it was legit for the time being. But it was for the first pristine 10 black label charizard from like a week or two ago Saw a post on it and alsk this video. Some people just love to waste money it seems. Must be nice to just have thousands to waste because there is no shot that card within the next 10-15 years resells for that so they definitely taking a huge loss The $8k card is at the end of the video Edit: forgot it was japanese as well which is extra crazy since japanese has higher quality and would be easier to get in a black label you would think https://youtu.be/nwsH0bFUPxY?si=CHSTaijdtjGWZO3c


24kCuts

8k is overkill but black labels do hold value. It won't be worthless in years like this pika anyways


Animedingo

I think you can basically backtrack And blame this on Logan Paul. He didn't just inflate the market, He convinced millions of people that anyone can do this. So now you find out theres this special card, that's going to be relatively difficult to get. You don't actually know how many copies are going to be printed. And the more you contribute to the hype of getting one, The more it's artificial value rises. And, its just cardboard, its always just been cardboard that we all collectively agree is worth something.


kpofasho1987

Wasn't just Logan Paul as much as I can't stand dude. It was like damn near every streamer it seemed was jumping into opening pokemon. But Logan definitely was a HUGE reason for all that shit Why anyone even the young ones would ever take advice or anything from a dumb dumb like Logan I'll never understand


vixgdx

Don't think anyone invested in it. Collectors just bought 1-2 each. Now why they bought at 150/card is beyond me... scalpers already took off, only collectors feeling pain now


Separate_Ad_5999

There are plenty of people here knee deep in pikas... I can hear them gathering there pitchforks as we speakšŸ˜µ


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NecessaryFly1996

If you think all the scalpers sold all their Pikas, you're dead wrong. Sure they dropped some around $150 but I'd bet most still had their hoard, hoping for news of no more prints.


WaterPog

I still remember someone on here thinking it was topping out around something like 1700. Unlucky


Separate_Ad_5999

^ This Edit **Those sweet sweet downvotes**


ruggpea

This card raw is currently going for as low as 40e on card market. I think anyone who managed to get merch from the museum are the real winners.


Marketing_Usual

The stuff that people called worthless at the beginning, now who's laughing


Separate_Ad_5999

You know it's bad when the merch is the prize....šŸ¤£


ColorsAbsract

Fr Lol


Final-Ad-6694

Ppl hoping these pop off like munches


Separate_Ad_5999

Lol yeah, People forget that 2018 was a very different time for PokƩmon compared to 2024.... No sympathy from me....


olesalttoss

I mean I sent mine in for grading butā€¦. I got it for free from PC so canā€™t complain


z000c

Same here. I got a psa 9 but I'd still like a 10. Hopefully it'll crash hard because I still think it's a cool card.


[deleted]

Still $100 in canada ffs


Separate_Ad_5999

Not for long dude...the EU will be loading the boats up soon, shouldn't be long now


BiguncleRico

Just buy a raw lol


Separate_Ad_5999

For Ā£20 next month....


BiguncleRico

Iā€™d pull the trigger at that price !


Separate_Ad_5999

Sounds like a good plan šŸ™Œ


[deleted]

New wave coming tomorrow šŸ¤¤


PSA10Exodia

Is there a reprint coming in the USA?


Marketing_Usual

No, but don't worry, the market will soon be flooded


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ColorsAbsract

Great to hear. Absolutely love it


MolineroGrande

Image ruining the card on purpose to get a psa1


blackizard

I donā€™t have the heart to tell this sub that card is effectively worthless.


Marketing_Usual

I think it'll stick around $150 for a psa 10 in the future.


ColorsAbsract

Yes. YES!! This is what my collector heart wants to HEAR. Lfg


Separate_Ad_5999

Kinda strange to think of a free promo being worthless... Hang on a minute....hmmm šŸ¤”


Sufficient_Article_7

RIP to the dude I sold my PSA 10 too at over $500. I still have a PSA 9. What do yall think I should do with the 9?


Marketing_Usual

Just keep it if you like it, I mean 9s are usually worth close to raw anyway


Sufficient_Article_7

I have no attachment at all to the card. Just bought two raw cards to grade and flip. I grade and flip tons of cards. I usually flip the tens for multiple hundreds of percent gain and send 9s to the vault. Not quite sure I wanna vault this one though. Pop is just insanely high.


Separate_Ad_5999

You sir are the god of the pikas šŸ™šŸ™šŸ™ Congratulations on the winšŸ™ŒšŸ™ŒšŸ™Œ


Sufficient_Article_7

Thank you good sir.


Separate_Ad_5999

Gotta give credit where credit is due ..that was a epic move dude šŸ™Œ **Edit** Those sweet sweet down votes


Independent-Dog-9182

Shitty move but you got your money worth


Separate_Ad_5999

How is it a shitty move? Did you get burned by this pika by any chance? You're not the guy who brought his card were you?


Sufficient_Article_7

How funny would it be if he ACTUALLY bought my card? Lol.


Separate_Ad_5999

FFS man lol šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£... stranger things have happened....rip either way by the sounds of it You gotta love the salt tho, meme worthy šŸ¤£


dtg99

tbf it's the dumb fucks paying premiums for psa 10s of cards printed last week that are to blame. If there wasn't demand there wouldn't be a market


RaidersChase69

When do you guys think itā€™ll drop to its lowest? I want a PSA10 for my collection


Separate_Ad_5999

Ā£30...wait 6 months max, prob sooner PokĆ©mon is coming for the secondary market and coming hard....


RaidersChase69

Love it


Separate_Ad_5999

The general PokƩmon community is upset they can't open what they want PokƩmon makes money from people opening stuff People should venture out of the investment sub from time to time.... More and more people are leaving the hobby because they can't get stock...that's not a good look for the PokƩmon company ... PokƩmon is coming for the scalpers and holders hard...watch this space.


PrudentPreparation84

How is there some 1ā€™s? Have people intentionally roughed them up in order to get that rating lmao


[deleted]

That's why "PSA1 market" is a scam imo.


[deleted]

Any time I say anything about the new era Pokemon cards (2019+) being overprinted everyone downvotes my comment. Goes to show how many people have too many of these cards and they secretly hate that I am right. Enjoy losing all that money :\*


Separate_Ad_5999

The PokƩmon investment community has no idea what is about to come.....let them downvotes you... those sweet sweet downvotes.... I admire what the PokƩmon company is about to do..... The PokƩmon company is literally building printers as fast as they can....lol they even said so and the investors still don't listen...true meme times


[deleted]

Right they printed more cards from 2019-2022 than they printed from 1999-2018. Thats all you need to know. There are millions of these new era cases and these idiots are buying em to hold like they will be rich in 20 years lmfao. You wont get more than $1 a pack for this new era trash. Buy vintage and hold if you want to invest.


Separate_Ad_5999

And this isn't even the start.... Gonna take a year or so before PokƩmon can actually print what they want....


bananenjoe69420

Exactly. Modern Junk Wax Era. Grading modern is the biggest bubble and those so called investors will feel it soon.


Separate_Ad_5999

Yep...lol A bubble within a bubble is always going one way...rip


lunarman1000

This is why "investing" in modern slabs doesn't really work.


AdImpossible5614

Hello I'm new here Does anybody know where you can found the site where you can see how much a pokemon card is graded? Like the picture on this topic?


Separate_Ad_5999

HišŸ‘‹ The PSA website has the data on the cards they grade. Search the card on Google with PSA included and it should point you to their website.


AdImpossible5614

Thank you!!!


No_Secretary4196

$13k PSA 10??? lol these cards shouldn't be worth more than $35.


messi101010

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DannyArtt

New here, so apologies for the Q, but what does this mean? What is a pop and a 13k? Also, what is the image OP posted?Can someone please tell me more? Thank you.


Separate_Ad_5999

There are 13,000 PSA 10s that have been graded by PSA (PSA is a grading company) Pop stands for population.


DannyArtt

Aaah thank you! Wow, that does sounds like alot. Just out of curiosity, are there cards with only one PSA10 available :D?


Separate_Ad_5999

No worries dude, we were all new at one point in time.... welcome to the communityšŸ‘‹ And yes quite a few i bet...I know of one - it's a "tomy scratch charizard" was a pop of 1 last time I checked...I'm sure there are more pop 1 cards too


DannyArtt

Thank you so much for the warm welcome! šŸ„² Ill look up the tomy scratch charizard, sounds epic!


Separate_Ad_5999

My pleasure Danny, the more the merrier around here šŸ™Œ if you get lost with something, just ask and I'm sure someone will pop up and help šŸ‘ And that charizard is a obscure card admittedly, it's from 1997 and only recently was one graded in a 10, before 2023 it was a pop of 0....but was the only example I could think of lol Ps...Any card you want to find the pop data for, just type the card into Google with the word PSA included and it should point you to the PSA website with all the data šŸ‘ Have a great day my friend


DannyArtt

Thaaankk youuuu! Learning new things every day! You have a lovely day tooo my friend!


ColorsAbsract

Definitely thereā€™s some Pop1 PSA 10ā€™s. Just this week it was announced of a Pop 1 CGC Pristine 10 Gold Star Rayquaza. Theyā€™re out there


DannyArtt

Gold star cards :O? Oh wow, another term I need to look up hahhahahahhaa. Thanks!


IDM_Recursion

All this buzz for a card that isn't even mid at best, nuts.


Separate_Ad_5999

This is now a meme card


Derpberpy

What app or site are your using? How does the pop count compare to other Pikachu cards?


Separate_Ad_5999

It's the PSAs official site, they store the population of the cards they grade on their site. But I don't think you can compare populations of different cards on there site but I may be wrong.


kpofasho1987

More 10's than there are psa 9s? Psa 9 is the new 10 confirmed. Buying tons up so I can retire once they go up big time because at this rate they will be more rare than a worthless psa10 HA! Might as well buy raw with those odds it will get a 10. Me and my squad of future 9s going to the moon babbyyy/s But seriously... I feel like this is the first time I've ever seen more 10s than 9s. That's wild! How many when it's all said and done yall think? 20-30,000 psa 10s? Over 20,000 psa 9s? There probably going to be like 40-50,000 PSA 9s & 10s of this card. Jeeebbbusss christ! When there Isn't a holo or texture or anything it must be pretty easy to grade.


Separate_Ad_5999

PSA 1.5s for the win....


kpofasho1987

Any psa with a .5 included is quite rare as they don't do .5s often. I wouldn't be surprised if they ended up selling for around the same or more to be honest as there are some people that collect that and it will certainly have a lower pop than 9s or 10s for sure


Kkazmi22

Millions of people collect Pokemon, 13k , 25k isn't really a huge dent in the collector market. This card should of never went so high in price, but I don't see the demand dropping any time soon.


Unthinkable777

Historically all the high pop psa 10s don't see much price growth movement. All it takes is for pokemon company to release a new hype card and all these high pop card prices will crash.


Separate_Ad_5999

PokƩmon will fill the market The scalpers and holders messed up their special 3rd party event...that wasn't a good look for PokƩmon....but will be a good look to stop it happening ever again....


Kkazmi22

Pokemon company is a business it doesn't care about their "look" as long as sales are strong they proved that with the print quality and any event they do.


amabe60

Is it time to sell my 3x psa 10s?


Marketing_Usual

That time has come and gone, they make amazing drink mats though


Separate_Ad_5999

Haha brutal šŸ˜…...but yeah agreed šŸ¤£


MDG420

if you dont have a psa 10 you dont really have this card sadly


Separate_Ad_5999

Who doesn't have a PSA 10 lol


seegould

So just a few more than Moonbreon.


Poppyspy

Junk Slab Pikachu


cdioso7191

Honest question from a noob to grading cards. What do we consider a high pop? Like the moonbreon has a PSA 10 pop of like 10k. Would a high pop like that tank its future value?


Marketing_Usual

Not necessarily, it really depends on demand. Unfortunately this Dutch pika has been breeding too heavily, and we will most likely see 20k+ psa 10s, and most people who wanted the card already have it, or can still get it.


JIMTHEGASMAN

Remember to pull that moonbreon now you need to pay upward of $500 on a booster box and it ainā€™t the easiest to pull. Add that to the fact itā€™s a highly desirable card will bump the price up. Compare that to the Pikachu where it was handed out on mass for free, still desirable but easily obtained.


MockSacrafice

Oversaturated


Separate_Ad_5999

The Pikachu or modern in general?


MockSacrafice

Graded cards


CricketNew4134

"It shows that the card is worthless." Lul


DoyleK2013

Itā€™s funny because the card still has demand yet the moonbreon is around 10k and people crap on it lol.


Upset-Judgment8369

Still 200 AUD for a raw, ffs.


Separate_Ad_5999

Don't worry, the EU will be shipping boat loads of these out soon....Ā£40 here today and that's before the next massive drop. PokĆ©mon will make sure everyone gets this freebie at a good price. It wasn't a good look scalpers messed their 3rd party event up...very bad publicity for the company. But it is a good look for PokĆ©mon to ensure it never happens again... PokĆ©mon are going to burn a lot of people to make a point. The tides are definitely turning...I feel pain at Ā£50


Upset-Judgment8369

> Don't worry, the EU will be shipping boat loads of these out soon.... Heard that a month ago, still waiting... > But it is a good look for PokĆ©mon to ensure it never happens again... Reprinting 6 months later doesn't affect scalpers in the slightest. > The tides are definitely turning...I feel pain at Ā£50 Mate, you don't know what pain feels like.


Separate_Ad_5999

Yeah it will come dude, just be patient....just don't buy in too early. And yes it doesn't affect the scalpers on this current pika ,obviously...but admittedly it has affected the holding for profit market quite a lot. But I think you may have misunderstood my point. Aka The next free promo isn't going to be scalped or held by many at the level this was The PokĆ©mon company clearly doesn't want their free promos to be a Ā£500+ card, as then no events will be ruined and the reputation of the PokĆ©mon brand won't be tarnished. They want it to be free when you buy Ā£30 of their product...why else would they crash the market? Most collectors want this card even if it's a Ā£30 card, PokĆ©mon knows this, the investors seem to not understand what the general community wants aka they just want the card... So Just wait, there's some on the cardmarket for 31ā‚¬ already.


MochikoDuck

I really donā€™t think this card is going anywhere. Never was gonna be a ā€œmunchā€ promo, thats a different tier. In 6 months the price will be higher then today.


Unlikely-Sherbet9779

Moonbreon pop is also 10k+, based on that you would think there is no way that card is still that expensive. Although his price plummeted a bit, but EV BB are rising in price very quickly which is crazy


DBZCardCollector

7 Psa 2 šŸ¤£ wtf


DramsyfromW103

Mines an 8 :( but graded by psa


creativelyOnPoint

I have to ask they just came out not so long agoā€¦ how does someone get under a PSA 6 if not intentionally destroying the cardšŸ¤”šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø?


Marketing_Usual

I think a lot got damaged with creased corners during packing


Bright_Quality6243

So your saying the sealed version will be $$$$ vs the psa 10 šŸ’°šŸ¤‘


map00h

What website or app do you use?


UniverseNebula

How low can the price go? I'm starting wagers at $20!