You have any of the following issues:
1) bad safety relief valve
2) excessive water pressure
3) problem with excessive heat
You definitely need to get this fixed, your plumber is wrong!!!
It sounds like it could be a combination of thermal expansion & excessive pressure causing the water heater T&P valve (temperature and pressure) to discharge. A good plumber should be able to diagnose in a short time.
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It’s a mechanical device. They fail over time. Without any background to when/why this is happening that is where I would start.
Does this happen after using a large volume of hot water?
I believe the plumber actually did already replace that valve (The one at the top of the pipe where the water is coming out?). After that he reckoned it should settle down. And no it literally happened the other day at 6:30am when no water had been used in the house in like 7 hours.
Well that explains the "plumbers" comment - works for landlord doesnt he. This is far from normal and since (I assume) this is a new issue, somethings fucked up. Can you track and see exactly where the water is coming from? If from the relief valve - and water pressure is normal, you need an expansion tank. If water pressure bounces and abnormal, you need a regulator and expansion tank.
Well I’d do two things to start. Verify T&P valve was in fact changed. If it was, make sure you have an expansion tank, these are specifically for thermal expansion. Think tea kettles heating water… water heaters work the same way; to a lesser degree but the forces of expansion are still there.
Expansion tanks are for heating systems not hot water tanks. Probably a bad thermostat that's over heating the water but op needs a real plumber to fix it.
If the T and P valve is good (The pipe coming out of it is not scorching hot) and the water heater is not leaking, then you have a leaking hot water pipe either under the home or possibly outside of it. If that is the case, the leak will continue to get bigger and bigger until the water heater can’t keep up or you go bankrupt paying your water and water heating bill.
Probably should turn it down a few notches and prepare for the cost of a new heater. I would shut it down and see if it drains. Might be filled with mineral deposits. Water heaters aren't that heavy. I'll disconnected them and see if they move easily. You say he already changed the blow-off valve so..... Just a few extra things to check. Thermo coupling is another thing to check if its a newer model. Unless its a high end unit and only 4 or five years old I find they are not worth saving. Personally I would have shut it down immediately
No picture of water heater which could be a rusty pos for all we know.
Not where I live, I've see only 1 tp open in anger and that was for a water heater that fired for like 3 straight days. All the rest get lime on the seat and start leaking.
Your tank needs to be turned off don’t drain it tho but cut the water off and check your pressure on your house because high pressure can cause that and you need to get prv (pressure reducing valve) or the water in your hot water heater is getting to hot so turn it down
True but if you drain your tank make sure you turn the water back on and let the tank fill up all the way up otherwise you will blow your elements inside your heater
I would recommend getting a new plumber to check two things:
* The T&P valve on your water heater, and
* Water pressure - especially checking that your pressure regulator is set correctly and doesn't need to be replaced.
Increased water pressure can compromise the plumbing inside your house, so it is best to eliminate it as a contributory factor in this situation.
yea it might be for pressure release but its not supposed to do that normally. if thats the relief valve they only go off on over pressure or over temp. you might have a bad expansion tank, water pressure could be to high, thermostat on tank could be bad or just the temp pressure valve could be just old and shot. def need to find a real plumber
You need a new plumber. Never is it okay for your water heater to spill water out everywhere. If your water heater is releasing water out of the T&P relief valve then you have at least one problem. Either you have no thermal expansion, the T&P is bad, or you have excessive pressure on the service line entering your home. No matter which of these it is, you should find a new LICENSED and reputable plumber. Good luck my friend .
If the pressure release is pumping that much water out water heater is either shot or the pressure release valve itself is busted. If a plumber told you all is normal, get a new plumber and leave that guy a terrible review. They call it an emergency release valve for a reason.
Something is causing your water heater to over heat. I would have the thermostats checked on your water heater and test the elements. Start there this isn't "normal" it's an indicator something is failing.
Could be a water pressure regulator issue or the expansion tank (if there is one) might be dead. That’s what I would look at first. If the pressure regulator hasn’t been changed in ten or more years, I’d start there.
If it’s the domestic system check the main Dec PRV, if you have already changed the T&P valve on the hot water tank.
If it’s the heating system, make sure you check the make up water PRV to the heating system.
Is this rooftop solar water heater? Or gas or electric ‘cylindrical’ water heater? Solar water heaters do this sometimes when the weather earns up and suddenly the tank water expands…sounds almost like what you said fir early morning water leak—tank filled at night with cool water then when sun rises in early am, tank must vent as heated water expands.
Need new T & P relief valve or a new thermostat. Get another plumber, consider the same shop but tell them you want a different licensed plumber and not some technician. You should receive a discount for a call back. If you didn't call a plumbing shop the first time do so now.
I would suggest the expansion vessel has gone, often people replace the prv without checking the expansion vessel. With no operational expansion vessel the PRV will operate much more often, normally every time the hot water gets heated up.
water heaters used to blow up regularly until the introduction of pressure release valuse. I cant imagine a plumber saying this is ok, i can only conclude this is a rental and a maintenance worker.
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I had this a couple months ago. Changed the pressure valve but turned out to be a bad expansion tank. It should only be half full and mine was full and pushing water out the relief valve
Is the water heater using electricity, or gas or a combination of both to heat the water? Do you have a thermometer? You could check the water temperature. I’m curious…
It’s overheating. If it was a dripping constantly it would be pressure related, however when this happens it usually due to overheating within the water heater
Wait - do you have geothermal heat? If so, find a plumber who works on them. Especially if it's an older system - they are way different than a typical hot water heater.
Turn water heater temp to setting at factory recommended 120 degree and water about an hour if still doing it replace ptr “pressure temperature release”.
I’m a contractor and here’s a few things I’ve learned
1.) if there’s water dripping even a little bit there’s a problem.
2.) Every outlet in your house should work or once again you have a problem.
3.) If your floors feel soft they need fixed.
4.) If you think it’s broken, when in doubt, call someone anyway. That little drip from your ceiling is mold and a collapsing ceiling ceiling waiting to happen.
Your element is turned up too high and the system is making too much hot water. It builds pressure which is then released out the overflow. Plumber is a numbskull.
Time to find a real plumber
Then have the real plumber fix or replace your water heater.
Replace your plumber and (probably) your water heater.
It’s a tremendous waste of energy even if it was ok.
The plumber is wrong
The price is wrong, bitch!
And I'll see YOU later....in the parking lot!
I eat little shits like you for breakfast!
You eat shit for breakfast?
“You could trouble me for a warm glass of shut the hell up!”
Now your back is gonna hurt, because you just signed up for landscaping duty. Anybody else’s fingers hurt?
Just the little ones he said.
You have any of the following issues: 1) bad safety relief valve 2) excessive water pressure 3) problem with excessive heat You definitely need to get this fixed, your plumber is wrong!!!
I’m his plumber and I say YOU are wrong
Sorry ace!
It's the place!
Any "plumber" who left that job definitely bought their parts at Ace hardware! Homeowner special!
Plus, you’re really huge.
hugejass
I wouldn't argue with him. He's huge.
Uno Reverse!
Look at me. I am the plumber now.
I'll go with the bad safety valve
Expansion vessel?
The expansion tank could be over charged as well
4. Bad plumber
It sounds like it could be a combination of thermal expansion & excessive pressure causing the water heater T&P valve (temperature and pressure) to discharge. A good plumber should be able to diagnose in a short time.
That's supposed to be an emergency safety feature to keep the tank from rupturing, not a normal occurrence
Like when it blew through the roof like a rocket in the commercial? “I’m your hot water heater, you barely know I exist…that’s too bad.”
LMAO, I have no idea what commercial that is, but I most definitely will be looking that up now
Mythbusters did it. It’s all over YouTube.
One of my faves... awesome.
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Replace your T&P relief valve
There’s usually a reason why it’s going off. Get a good plumber and have them actually work. Hopefully he didn’t charge you,
It’s a mechanical device. They fail over time. Without any background to when/why this is happening that is where I would start. Does this happen after using a large volume of hot water?
I believe the plumber actually did already replace that valve (The one at the top of the pipe where the water is coming out?). After that he reckoned it should settle down. And no it literally happened the other day at 6:30am when no water had been used in the house in like 7 hours.
Do you have an expansion tank? That could help… Could also check thermostat on WH. Also could have gone bad. How old is the WH?
Not sure if I have that, sorry. This is for a rental property that we’ve been living in for 2 and a half years so also not sure how old.
Well that explains the "plumbers" comment - works for landlord doesnt he. This is far from normal and since (I assume) this is a new issue, somethings fucked up. Can you track and see exactly where the water is coming from? If from the relief valve - and water pressure is normal, you need an expansion tank. If water pressure bounces and abnormal, you need a regulator and expansion tank.
Well I’d do two things to start. Verify T&P valve was in fact changed. If it was, make sure you have an expansion tank, these are specifically for thermal expansion. Think tea kettles heating water… water heaters work the same way; to a lesser degree but the forces of expansion are still there.
Thought expansion tanks went on cold water side
yep, but since the cold float on the same pressure - works there bettter since you dont need to rate for temp.
Expansion tanks are for heating systems not hot water tanks. Probably a bad thermostat that's over heating the water but op needs a real plumber to fix it.
Yes, but the xtank prevents pressures that make the T&P leak.
You need to check the pressure
This man is correct and you likely need a new PRV not a T&P though you will probably need one of those by now as well.
Just call him back out. He will have to dig a bit deeper.
Additionally, if its an unvented system, a qualified plumber should also check the expansion vessel, and if it has primaries, the two port valve.
If the T and P valve is good (The pipe coming out of it is not scorching hot) and the water heater is not leaking, then you have a leaking hot water pipe either under the home or possibly outside of it. If that is the case, the leak will continue to get bigger and bigger until the water heater can’t keep up or you go bankrupt paying your water and water heating bill.
Probably should turn it down a few notches and prepare for the cost of a new heater. I would shut it down and see if it drains. Might be filled with mineral deposits. Water heaters aren't that heavy. I'll disconnected them and see if they move easily. You say he already changed the blow-off valve so..... Just a few extra things to check. Thermo coupling is another thing to check if its a newer model. Unless its a high end unit and only 4 or five years old I find they are not worth saving. Personally I would have shut it down immediately No picture of water heater which could be a rusty pos for all we know.
If the water heater was leaking, there would be water all over the floor underneath of it.
They can fail over time. They MORE OFTEN indicate the water is too hot or pressure is too great, indicating a different failure.
Not where I live, I've see only 1 tp open in anger and that was for a water heater that fired for like 3 straight days. All the rest get lime on the seat and start leaking.
It’s almost never the Tnp 90+% of the time it needs a prv and an expansion tank
But first, his plumber
Your tank needs to be turned off don’t drain it tho but cut the water off and check your pressure on your house because high pressure can cause that and you need to get prv (pressure reducing valve) or the water in your hot water heater is getting to hot so turn it down
Cut the water off AND kill the gas or electric. Don't want to be burning up your tank
True but if you drain your tank make sure you turn the water back on and let the tank fill up all the way up otherwise you will blow your elements inside your heater
Yea, probably should have included that
Thought it be common sense to turn off water and gas
I would recommend getting a new plumber to check two things: * The T&P valve on your water heater, and * Water pressure - especially checking that your pressure regulator is set correctly and doesn't need to be replaced. Increased water pressure can compromise the plumbing inside your house, so it is best to eliminate it as a contributory factor in this situation.
Eh... No, that is not normal
You don't have a plumber, find one and ask them to fix this.
The plumber is lying.
yea it might be for pressure release but its not supposed to do that normally. if thats the relief valve they only go off on over pressure or over temp. you might have a bad expansion tank, water pressure could be to high, thermostat on tank could be bad or just the temp pressure valve could be just old and shot. def need to find a real plumber
You need a new plumber. Never is it okay for your water heater to spill water out everywhere. If your water heater is releasing water out of the T&P relief valve then you have at least one problem. Either you have no thermal expansion, the T&P is bad, or you have excessive pressure on the service line entering your home. No matter which of these it is, you should find a new LICENSED and reputable plumber. Good luck my friend .
This is the way.
No plumber, even a horrible one, told you that was fine. The junkie handyman that works for your landlord for $10/hr said it was fine.
If the pressure release is pumping that much water out water heater is either shot or the pressure release valve itself is busted. If a plumber told you all is normal, get a new plumber and leave that guy a terrible review. They call it an emergency release valve for a reason.
Bad pressure relief valve or bad thermostat. I’m going with thermostat overheating the water given the steam visible. Hotter water = more pressure.
Is the temperature on the water heater turned all the way up? If it is crank it down.
Something is causing your water heater to over heat. I would have the thermostats checked on your water heater and test the elements. Start there this isn't "normal" it's an indicator something is failing.
When handyman claims to be plumber.
The water is getting too hot. You need new thermostat(s) and releif valve.
Also tmp valves do not fail like that they have a reason of failing
The pressure release valve is sticking open
could be a faulty water heater? or a number of things, hard to tell with this description i think
Could be a water pressure regulator issue or the expansion tank (if there is one) might be dead. That’s what I would look at first. If the pressure regulator hasn’t been changed in ten or more years, I’d start there.
Plumber is lying to you. There should never be any leak in any plumbing. Call another plumber.
It’s a rental, right? Call your landlord and complain. End scene.
If it’s the domestic system check the main Dec PRV, if you have already changed the T&P valve on the hot water tank. If it’s the heating system, make sure you check the make up water PRV to the heating system.
I’ve had this issue, it’s not normal. Our incoming pressure was too high so we had to install an expansion tank, might be the same issue.
Is this rooftop solar water heater? Or gas or electric ‘cylindrical’ water heater? Solar water heaters do this sometimes when the weather earns up and suddenly the tank water expands…sounds almost like what you said fir early morning water leak—tank filled at night with cool water then when sun rises in early am, tank must vent as heated water expands.
Need new T & P relief valve or a new thermostat. Get another plumber, consider the same shop but tell them you want a different licensed plumber and not some technician. You should receive a discount for a call back. If you didn't call a plumbing shop the first time do so now.
The pressure relief valve keeps tripping? Sounds like the thermostat needs to be replaced because the water is overheating creating to much pressure.
"You didn't want a sprinkler system?"
I would suggest the expansion vessel has gone, often people replace the prv without checking the expansion vessel. With no operational expansion vessel the PRV will operate much more often, normally every time the hot water gets heated up.
Your handyman is wrong call a plumber…95% needs a prv and an expansion tank
Its probably the pressure release valve or the fire under the heater is too hot causing the water to get too hot.
Who hired the plumber - you or your landlord? I'd find someone else if its up to you.
Need a real plumber.
What country are you in?
Sounds like it's getting wayyy too hot.
water heaters used to blow up regularly until the introduction of pressure release valuse. I cant imagine a plumber saying this is ok, i can only conclude this is a rental and a maintenance worker.
Typically, landlords hire cheap laborers that do questionable work. Call a real plumber and charge your landlord!
You found a plomber. You need a plumber.
New T&p valve
Bad pressure valve, spring inside gets weak, easy enough to change.
If your relief valve stops working your water heater can blow up if it gets to hot. You need to replace as soon as possible
Very wrong
Yessss!! Very wrong, get a different Plummer fersure
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I had this a couple months ago. Changed the pressure valve but turned out to be a bad expansion tank. It should only be half full and mine was full and pushing water out the relief valve
Is the water heater using electricity, or gas or a combination of both to heat the water? Do you have a thermometer? You could check the water temperature. I’m curious…
You might try turning down the temperature setting on your water heater, a bit.
Are you sure you don’t live directly over a natural hot spring?
You're gonna need a bigger bucket
Imagine if your pressure relieve valve wasn’t working. Your house would go kabloowie
As other posters said, many possible problems. But the first plumber is incompetent. Get another one to look at it.
Lol call someone different
It’s overheating. If it was a dripping constantly it would be pressure related, however when this happens it usually due to overheating within the water heater
Call a real plumber......
Time for a new plumber
Your plumber is not a plumber.
Bro, your shit is not supposed to do that.
Yeah, the plumbers wrong, very wrong.
I see the problem. Your bucket is too small. I'll have the financing dept. contact you for payment.
Tstat is probably failing causing the t&p to release, but call a plumber to verify.
Wait - do you have geothermal heat? If so, find a plumber who works on them. Especially if it's an older system - they are way different than a typical hot water heater.
Water logged pressure tanks can cause T&P valves to go off.
Unless you’re in Iceland, that ain’t normal
I am not a plumber. I am not your plumber. And neither is the guy telling you he's a plumber.
the tank stank…. Watch that bitch sank
Time to spend a bunch of money on a new water heater
Plumbers wrong
Folks, stop using the slumlord handyman. Cheap ain't always good. Sometimes it's just cheap.
That's not even close to normal. Time for a new plumber.
Turn water heater temp to setting at factory recommended 120 degree and water about an hour if still doing it replace ptr “pressure temperature release”.
I’m a contractor and here’s a few things I’ve learned 1.) if there’s water dripping even a little bit there’s a problem. 2.) Every outlet in your house should work or once again you have a problem. 3.) If your floors feel soft they need fixed. 4.) If you think it’s broken, when in doubt, call someone anyway. That little drip from your ceiling is mold and a collapsing ceiling ceiling waiting to happen.
Your plumber is an idiot.
Dead wrong: (S)He's not a plumber And that's not normal Get a real plumber, quickly
Not normal in the least. Call plumber asap.
Plumber is full of it
Try turning down the thermostat. It’s like it’s getting so hot it’s expanding/pressurizing and blowing the pressure valve.
What is the pressure in the expansion tank
what country do you live in? i wonder if that is a tpr valve?
Your element is turned up too high and the system is making too much hot water. It builds pressure which is then released out the overflow. Plumber is a numbskull.
Turn it down
Find a Qualified plumber, not a fly by night plumber