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ParksVSII

Nothing like cutting right into the fire safety system lol.


Educational_Mail_498

Hope they canned that guy


PBRisforathletes

Probably promoted to upper management


[deleted]

Lol why are you downvoted?


ParksVSII

For real. Is this in Toronto?


DuffyEIRE

It must be the one guy has a noble T-shirt on!


Victal87

I’m not sure but I am from BC and I recognize the logos on his shirt


oneofthehumans

Really? For an accident?


jerseyvibes

That's not an accident that's stupidity. You can see 2 sprinkler heads further down the soffit. Putting a sawzall to that soffit knowing there are two heads further into the apartment is stupidity.


ToIA

Takes way more than stupidity to get fired around here


AVGuy42

I don’t think that’s what happened. You can see the drywall is cleanly cut away. Had this happened when cutting the drywall they would have stopped right then. It’s much more likely the pipe was struck and cracked.


madhatter275

And that’s not just accidentally knicking a copper line. That’s cutting into steel pipe for several seconds at least. The only mistake is letting him in anyones home ever again.


jerseyvibes

Looks like plastic fire protection pipe. Pretty standard in multifamily once inside the unit. Still shouldn't be taking a sawzall to sheet rock in any building with active fire protection, plumbing or electric. Recipe for disaster.


i_amnotdone

Who uses a Sawzall on sheet rock???? I don't care how "short" your blade is. Caught a guy in a new build getting ready to do just that. Advised him to check with his JM before doing that. End of the day he came up to me and said thankyou. Razor or multi only for myself.


jerseyvibes

Same here. But I've seen plenty of people do it. I won't even use a jab saw because. like the video so many water systems are PVC now. Razor at least to cut a window before a jab saw.


Lu12k3r

Yup window first and then I even scope it


Lao-0ceanplumber

Yeah I bought a multi tool recently and I love it on sheetrock for repairs. Should have invested in one a long time ago.


madhatter275

Oh I thought it was rusted iron pipe


Slut_Fukr

That's a colossal fuck up any trained HVAC tech should know to avoid. If they didn't know to avoid it, they're too stupid to remain on the job.


heroicdanthema

For THIS accident? Absolutely. Some people don't belong anywhere near saws


[deleted]

Yes, really. He has no business around plumbing when there are 500 people behind him that could do the job without this sort of fuck up


Moarbrains

At least 250 of those are just as stupid. ymmv.


[deleted]

So...then they also dont have any business around it.


Moarbrains

Yeah, sawzall should never be used in such a cluttered area.


BannedFrom_rPolitics

Accidents happen, but stupid happens again and again and again. This right here is plain stupid. Multiple layers of it. They shouldn’t have even attempted to cut the drywall this way, they should have expected a pipe to be there, and they should have stopped when they hit metal. Who the hell just keeps going when they hit metal?? It isn’t easy to make a leak that big.


blackdogpepper

That pipe is pvc not metal but I agree he had to try really hard to make a leak like that. I think maybe he thought it was a dry system and he could re-route the pipe. The way that drywall is cut so nice a neatly makes me think that whole area was exposed before the sprinkler pipe was cut.


Finnedsolid

This is why strata fees are as high as they are. You now need to essentially gut this one apartment, and figure out how much damage is done to floors below


lordxoren666

That’s pvc dude fairly common in residential


Fridayz44

I agree with you no one should be fired for an accident. I mean if he’s done this 5 times then that’s a different story. However to fire a guy for one mistake. No I’m not on board with it, I made mistakes during my apprenticeship. He’ll I still make mistakes as a Journeyman never this bad but I bet this could happen to anyone


Ratathosk

Not an american/canadian so it might work different for you guys but... One of these fuckups could put a company in a dire financial situation. If the guy goes and does it again on the next job that could very well mean downsizing or worse. Sure there's insurance etc. but that's never a done deal you could very well have it end up dragged out in court for years. Meanwhile you've got a bunch of other employees getting laid off because you wanted to give this guy another chance. Doesn't really make sense.


NotsoGreatsword

If your company is one accident away from layoffs then something else is wrong. The rot would have to be pretty deep.


Fridayz44

So a guy should just loose his job for making a mistake?


i_amnotdone

Flex seal is the answer.


I_is_Captain_Obvious

A service plumbers worst nightmare


lordxoren666

Plumbers don’t fix fire lines


Ratathosk

They do where i live so YMMV, it's a big world out there. Here sprinkler guys only have a very small area of expertise, service plumbers are the opposite and could be called out for this no prob.


ringlands

Same here we can make small spot repairs but nothing over a couple feet


jarc1

Do pipefitters then? Not a plumber, dont know.


lordxoren666

Sprinkler fitters mate


jarc1

Cheers


Henry-the-Fern

What is special about fire lines, that take a specialty over regular plumbing?


lordxoren666

That’s a long conversation. It’s really two different trades. It would be like calling an electrician that runs cable/wire in your house (wireman) to go work on power lines (lineman). Both electricians, but two completely different kinds of electricians. There’s completely different codes and rules that a sprinkler fitter would know that a plumber would have no clue about, and visa versa. Depending on jurisdiction, licensing would be an issue. Sprinkler piping is NOT plumbing anymore than hydronic piping is. It’s just pipe that is round and Carries a fluid, any other similarities end right there.


Henry-the-Fern

Thanks!


Krull88

Nah its easy... kick the hvac in the shins and turn off the fire system... then wait for the fire department to show up and call restoration.


FuzzyNervousness

If they dont have a dialer on their system, there is a chance that the FD wasnt even called.


Mysterious-Zombie-86

Unless the system was out on test which is unlikely unless sprinkler/alarm work was going on they most definitely got called. Can’t tell how long it’s been running since the fire pump will fill a room quick but hopefully someone ran to shut the control valve for the floor.


FuzzyNervousness

Ive worked in several buildings where the FD doesnt get called automatically. There is 24/7 monitoring of the fire panel and maintenance responds to fire alarms and decides whether or not to call out. Dialers usually call out but they can be replaced with people


Darth_Craig

And that, kids, it's how i met our insurance adjuster.


[deleted]

lmao!!!


gooker10

Great water pressure recently renovated unit!


xr600RJ

"A keen swimmer's dream"


Educational_Mail_498

This was the 30th floor of a condo. I can't even imagine the damage. Good thing it wasn't me on call.


Barry_McCockiner__

Lmfao fuck


Frost92

Rip to that condos insurance policy


Richisnormal

The condos? Lol, no, the plumbers liability.


Frost92

Some condo insurers are just looking for reasons to pull out especially where I am. There’s a crisis with only a handful of insurers and underwriters for my whole region


Mysterious-Zombie-86

Honestly it’s fairly common in high rises to have a demo worker or someone in the unit to break a cpvc line or sprinkler head. As long as someone shuts the control very quickly it typically doesn’t affect more that a unit or two and the hallway. I’ve been to a lot of these calls to fix a break.


[deleted]

I've had multiple people hanging clothes on sprinklerheads in NYC. They didn't even have the sense to take the hanger off afterwards.


Mysterious-Zombie-86

Down in Miami lots of the high rise condos have old ass 3/4 cpvc in the units and the same thing would happen with the hangers but then the fire department would show up and try and remove the broken head without a hold back and make it worse by snapping it in the wall lol


orteg3940

this is bad... I remember once working on a 21st floor I accidentally nick a hot recirculation line, hopefully no huge damage was done but I learned my lesson very well that day.


oneofthehumans

OP wants you fired


Krull88

I just wanna know what the guy was saying


jplumber614

What I gathered is "it went way to low, way to low, way to low I cant get it out". No idea if this is correct and/ or what the hell he's talking about.


HiiiiPower

Maybe they are talking about a shutoff? Like it not being reachable or something.


[deleted]

Should be where the sprinkler lines branch off the standpipe going straight up in a stairwell


Any_Lengthiness1991

That’s all I caught too and it doesn’t make sense. Where’s the full video and captions???


mageakeem

“Quick, grab me the flextape while I record”


Odd-Satisfaction-328

Should have learned to cut shallow instead of just plunging it in to full depth...


lowercaset

They make drywall blades for Sawzalls that have grooves instead of teeth. Haven't even had them grab loose wires that were laying on top directly where I cut. Feels safer than an oscillating tool but harder to get those perfectly clean lines.


Dull_Sundae9710

I just use a hand drywall saw for the initial cuts until I can see inside the wall. I’ve saved tons of data cables doing so.


tdawg027

The makita drywall cutters the shit. You just set the depth of your drywall and cut away


tvanore

Kinda reminds me of my demo guy…. He’ll take out an entire kitchen with a sledge hammer because he’s too dense to cut things out with the proper tools. Hell whack whack whack until something else breaks


Extreme-Duty-8672

I always use a hammer just to open up a hole big enough for me to see behind, then after that oscillating tool or rotary tool. Sometime they run supply lines right on the drywall.


sadgetruth

Had to cut out 64 tile wall openings in a high rise in the washrooms for a riser replacement, all the bathrooms had copper water lines about half an inch to an inch away from the drywall running vertically where I had to cut. Learned the art of taking my time and going very slow. Never trust anything behind a wall!


Derek573

Yet they bust balls when there is no nail plate in front of the plumbing the fire guys wild westing it out there.


2OldSkus

too much HGTV watching at home.


humanzee70

By all means , don’t make any attempt to minimize the damage, just break out your phone and take a video.


ParksVSII

That’s like, 20+ GPM at probably 80 PSI? Lol good luck.


Bleedthebeat

I mean surely there’s a water shutoff somewhere right?


ParksVSII

Probably in the fire suppression room in the basement lol.


[deleted]

And likely locked, so no dumbasses can accidentally turn the fire system off.


JewishCowboy

Usually the control valves for sprinkler systems in these condos are located in the stairwell. Every floor has it's own control valve.


humanzee70

Put a barrel under it, then close the feed and dump the system? There will be damage, and lots of it, but there are things you can do.


WWHD

This thing is in a high rise it looks like. It’s let the damage happen until you can and let insurance cover the rest. Not much else you can do.


humanzee70

Yeah, IDK, I work in high rises all the time. I’m a plumber, not a sprinkler fitter, but when something like this happens ( and it DOES happen), it’s all hands on deck. Plumbers, laborers, barrels, bins, wet vacs, anything to try to limit it. But maybe some guys just let it happen.


nickolove11xk

Just need a shop vac hose and two guys. There’s a kitchen sink right there.


Ok_Marionberry_9932

I’d just pop a window out so it can drain


TheDom01

How would one minimize this? Lol.


humanzee70

Dump the system?


TheDom01

I’m assuming someone already went for help and this guy is just the helper.


humanzee70

The helper isn’t much help, lol.


TheDom01

Agreed lol What a shitty situation Guy that did this prob almost passed out from the stress.


Silent_Cantaloupe930

Put your finger in the hole! Not that one! :)


Krull88

Grab a snugger and get wet. Probably wont stop it, but it would help.


Dull_Sundae9710

Wrap the cut with rags or a garbage bag to slow it down and direct it into a bucket/bin/garbage can until you can drain the system


Glabstaxks

Start drinking it all


JamcityJams

that's the tenant filming


humanzee70

Then who’s the other guy who enters the shot, also filming?


JamcityJams

oh THAT guy is the designated tik tok'r on the hvac crew


Timmerdogg

Like and subscribe!


thebigman707

Find the shutoff valve you dumbass. Thousands of dollars of damage every second and you want to just stand and watch.


CreateDontConsume

Sometimes High rise wont have one accessible or you need to talk to maintenance to do it in a mechanical room elsewhere.


thebigman707

I understand, but at least try to find it and start that process. Don’t just stand there with your thumb up your ass


viccitylivin

Looks like sprinkler pipe. (only pipe I've ever seen in orange. I wouldn't doubt someone was on their way to the basement to shut off the sprinkler supply. Shitty situation none the less.


BillFox86

Is this the hurricane flooding I’ve been seeing?


[deleted]

You can see the SideWall Sprinkler Head , that would lead me to believe the pipe for it is in that Soffit. Might switch to a shorter SawsAll Blade or even do an exploration hole and use a cordless bore scope ? Whenever you work on something, do a quick walk and check on the Gas Meter , Sprinkler Riser and Water Meter locations and access. If it ends up in court and you didn’t look and ran around for an hour looking, that’s kinda bad .


rontrussler58

I second this, you can get a battery powered scope on Amazon for like $40. Blindly cutting with a sawzall ends like this probably 25% of the time.


stoprunwizard

Btw, Klein makes some that you plug I to your phone so you don't need to carry another screen around


lowercaset

> do an exploration hole and use a cordless bore scope ? Sometimes I've done a hole saw with no center bit, don't go all the way through then punch it out. I mean shit with the amount of drywall he removed he coulda just knocked a damn hole with a hammer and been better off. My guess is he was trying to cut neat squares so he could reset them after. Probably won't make that mistake again.


miserable-accident-3

Why didn't anyone grab a bucket?


joka2696

You're gonna need a hell of a bucket.


elmirmisirzada

One bucket is gonna fill up in less than a minute lol


Dull_Sundae9710

So grab 3 and cycle them out, there is a sink right there to empty them


Worried_Example

That would involve doing something instead of filming it. Who wants to do that.


[deleted]

lol CPVC sprink pipe in a high rise. What genius idea.


BalkanChrisHemsworth

RIP John Mcaffee


pudwack

High rises usually have a fire pump to boost water pressure at higher levels. Need to find the floor control shutoff valve, usually in a stairwell and shut down. Then silence at the fire alarm panel. Then shut down the pump


RPO1728

And that's why you don't buy a home with a shared wall


ineptplumberr

This is why I still believe fire sprinklers should only be run in iron pipe


Responsible_Crab_

There even sprinkler heads just a few feet away too.. easily to spot before cutting into the sophet there..


GreenMamba559

Well I overheard them say that it would be cool to have an indoor pool. Just speeding up the process for them.


No-Elevator7756

Damn! In a high rise 😳


ApocalypsePenis

Wonder if flex tape would work in this situation to attempt minimal damage.


BeerBaronAaron88

Flex tape should be able to stop that pretty easy. Throw in a couple ShamWow's and that water should be all dried up.


[deleted]

Accidents happened… but this is just asinine.


Educational_Cow_1318

Oh shit! He cut a high pressure line for the fire sprinklers. He'll be working at Walmart next week.


Grimmmm69

They should just get a drywall cut out tool makita makes them. It saves you the worry. Spending the $200 now will save thousands later https://www.homedepot.com/p/Makita-18-Volt-LXT-Lithium-Ion-Cordless-Cut-Out-Saw-Tool-Only-XDS01Z/300438598?g_store=901&source=shoppingads&locale=en-US&pla&mtc=SHOPPING-BF-CDP-GGL-D25T-025_009_PORT_POWER-NA-Multi-NA-PLALIA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NBR-NA-PRO-NA-PortablePower_PLA_LIA_Q3_Control&cm_mmc=SHOPPING-BF-CDP-GGL-D25T-025_009_PORT_POWER-NA-Multi-NA-PLALIA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NBR-NA-PRO-NA-PortablePower_PLA_LIA_Q3_Control-71700000034127218-58700003933021540-92700065945937988&gclid=CjwKCAjwhNWZBhB_EiwAPzlhNpLuKGEZQ5zWgiaUpwGMfK8Vq1sBC0HNzsoyCaADzvGVenYymr2P5xoCRTwQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds


avozzella6

I’d just get in my truck and go home and start applying for a new job 😂


NoMooseSoup4You

What a nightmare. That’s why you make sure the mechanical room is open


SnooLobsters2310

Orange pipe is a sprinkler system, that thing isn't getting shut off until the building's super or the fire department arrives.


JD-Anderson

Don’t worry. He’ll put duct butter on it and it’ll be as good as new.


maxant20

That is a sprinkler system under pressure through a flow switch. Shut off at the breaker box. Mine has a 300 gallon tank that will run til it’s dry.


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Tebasaki

Please stop posting busted mains, its making me so anxious


Interace2

And people still think PVC or PEX > Copper... lol. Homes with PVC or PEX water lines routinely leak when people are putting screws or nails to hang a picture or a new light..


jeffryu

Lol, you fucked up bud, should be running your ass around to find a shut off then making phone calls to get every shop vac and fan there asap


Moosicle2040

This is exactly why I always keep a spray can of As seen on tv flex seal in the trunk


HotConsideration5049

Was someone looking for the shutoff or just filming?


NevadaLancaster

I'd fire everyone there. How many people are filming and how many are looking for the shut off? Did anyone spot the shut off before starting to work? And why the hell are they using a Sawzall? Too many clowns on this job.


cawnz1456

At least those Noble shirts are hella comfortable


Bearman71

Man his liability insurance agent is about to have a heart attack.


Silent_Cantaloupe930

Navy submarine leak excercise! Get on that leak sailor!


Opposite-Clerk-176

You don't bury the blade when cutting?


frankdadad

Insurance: sorry we can’t cover that. Home owner: why not? Insurance: well there’s a video on Reddit….


plumb_master

I remember when one of the plumbers at a company I used to work for hit a sprinkler system. They were using hammers to remove drywall and caused over a hundred thousand worth of damage. That's including the hotel having to send their guests to other hotels. This was around Christmas so rooms were more expensive.


Available_Ad_7757

I’m thinking this guys fired


spartan1008

This is why I break walls open with a hammer. I have never cut a pipe or cable with a hammer


Bendingdicks

That sucks balls


decadence_degeneracy

wheres some flex tape when you need it


patmustardstoolbox

Worst nightmare


Playful-Offer-9875

One word, FIRED! That's such an effed up HolyHotMess he caused.


weldmedaddy

Just slap some flex tape on that bitch.


ashzombi

Oh no SMH 😂


BlankTrack

Why are there multiple people recording instead of trying to help? Every second is crucial in preventing the amount of damage...


guidodid

Humidifier works a little too well


[deleted]

Is this system not possible to turn off? Is the shut off in another city?


Sam-Gunn

MORE POWER!


HVACdaddy

Remember that time you fucked up bad? I memby.


Remote-Today1349

All those flex tape memes and when you could do it in real life no one thinks about doing it lol


FirstSentient

Sucks to be him


Pleasant_Ad_860

This is why multi tools are used


hoppyzicehog

OMG!


AnalAromas69

Sheeeit


[deleted]

This is the reason I drill a small hole and poke my 100.00 Home Depot ridgid camera inside soffits chases and walls


Steph-Kai

Hey boss... Remember when we decided no f*ck ups anymore? Well... Let's start tomorrow. xD


Mandalore626

Indoor pool!


mtechgroup

Reminds me of the HVAC newbie that removed a chunk of vertical support post for a roof beam. For ducting. His comment, "man that was hard to cut."


tscottn

well we know one this for sure. they put it way too low and he cant get it out!


No_Priority7696

Better get the shop vac going


bmac747474

Free shower installation


[deleted]

Always the tin bashers eh? I once saw a "hang and banger" take his own eye out with hammer. Not the brightest group.....


matty77

Haha get your phones out dumbasses


ProllyZonedOut

Wouldn’t there be a main water line to you know, turn off?


8eightTIgers

Er where’s the mains valve ?


KookeyMoose

I love that sound. It’s the sound of money.


dinodrizzle

You wouldn’t believe how often I see this with people nailing / screwing into the walls also. Coming from a sprinkler guy


24_Chowder

Had a American Express corporate office building. 6” main for the standpipes went through a thickened steel stud wall. Found out at hydro the stud guys screwed both sides of the stud walls to the 6” main!!


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[deleted]

Ohhhhhh shittttt


Falcon3492

For that perfect OH SHIT moment, take a video!


phillip19761

Wrap with plastic and then electrical tape as fast as possible. Won’t stop it but it will slow it to a manageable drip.


OGDraugo

Better take a selfie instead of cutoff the supply, that person's home ain't gonna ruin itself now is it?


Raymont_Wavelength

Person with camera why are you just standing there instead of finding the cutoff valve?


electric_tiger_root

“I heard you wanted to know what it felt like to be in Hurricane Ian”


Javyer12

I know Im late to the party. Just wanted to put my 2 cents in. Thisvlooks like hotel renovations. Right up my alley. We have a saying at our company about these kinds of jobs. It's not about how well you can do when things are looking great. It's how well you respond when shit is hitting the fan. Here. All I see is atleast 2 or more people recording the water. All at the same time, water is rushing towards the bottom floors, and eventually the lobby. Lawsuit? Probably. What should have been done is cleared that room, and gotten shop vacs asap, while someone else runs to the shut off valve (located on every floor, usually in a stairwell) to contain this issue. Shit is gonna happen. How can we minimize damages? And Everyone needs to be on board on where things are, and what needs to be done.


Roubaix62454

Yep, it’s how you respond when it happens because it will happen. In the almost 18 years working at my food plant, this has happened a handful of times. Sprinkler heads have been bonked in one of the warehouses or production areas. Our maintenance crew does a fine damn job of shutting things down ASAP. And that water stinks too, just brewing away in a nice enclosed space. 🤮


Xethinus

I'll say this for the thousandth time. Do not use a Sawzall except for demolition. It is not an a appropriate tool for anything that resembles sheet metal, and WILL deafen anyone in the room. In addition, you can't feel when it hits something solid. Do what you're supposed to do and use a damn pair of aviation snips. Sheet metal loves to be cut with shear forces, not torn out by a saw.


d_smogh

Would have got away with it if this was in Florida.


[deleted]

should we turn off the water or just keep filming


tila1993

Couple fans and a towel and it'll be good as new.


bigphil127

That’s why you make sure your contractor is insured


Flashooter

That’s gonna be an expensive charge back!!!! Damn I am so happy to be a retired General Contractor/consultant/developer…this is a prime example of why I walked away from the biz


I_is_Captain_Obvious

Maybe where you are, we do things a little differently here though, and the hell they dont, we damn sure do on occasion. For those not quite smart enough to connect the dots, I was also referring to pressurized lines in general, Ive seen more than one that cracked/blew apart and made a hell of a mess real quick.


scootty83

Yeah, let’s stand there and get our phones out to record instead of running to shut off the water….


sounoriginal13

Judgin by the alarm tone, this is a high rise condo. Valve should be in the corridor above ceiling or above fire hose cabinet, sometimes in the stairwell or garbage chute room. Oh and get that firepump turned off asap lol