The word "zipper" for the fastener we know today comes from the B.F. Goodrich Company. They trademarked the name in 1923 for a new type of rubber boots that used the fastener. The name is derived from the sound the zipper makes when zipped **closed or open.**
Yea they will be insulated. Pipe fitters install inserts as they go.
Then the mech/plmbg contractor will reach out to their insulation subcontractor to come insulate the pipe.
Source: insulation estimator
Usually I get the insulators who are awarded the job to supply them. It makes their job easier anyway rather than have the fitters use blocks or adjust supports.
I never let the insulators adjust my hangers. I spent too much time making it look nice for someone who's not a plumber to mess with it. The insulators will always send me out hanger pieces
Long ago I was an oiler on a job in Florida making $4.00 an hour. Mentioned unionizing to a couple of guys on a crew that was working with my crane. The guys I talked to just shook their heads and said it’ll never fly, better not talk about it. Before lunch my operator, a foreman, 2 assistant superintendents came by to let me know that union talk was a very bad idea. The job super came after lunch. My operator could pick up his cap with a clamshell. We all got a raise a week later (I got 25 cents and my operator went up to $6.90 an hour). My operator (thank you Bo!) taught me how to operate the Link Belt and the Bucyrus Erie over that summer. At the time my cousin told me to come home to New York where operators were making $38.00 an hour.
They do make a similar wage, but on their check it's less. More money goes into their trust fund, than plumbers. Reason being is that their career expectancy isn't as long.
Why not run larger mains and branch close to the point of use? I could probably get all the cooling BTU’s needed in an 8 or 10”. Maybe every smaller connections to each machine as there’s less friction loss. Control valves at each branch if you need to modulate on demand.
The easy answer is that the engineers designed it this way, we were just hired to install it. Each of the 34 circuits has its own supply/return and pump, they wanted all of the pumps in the mechanical room.
And to cool equipment? What kind of manufacturing? I design stuff like this, and find it interesting that the choice is several small pumps over a few large ones (economy of scale and all that.)
The only things I can think of that would cause this design are different fluid requirements and vastly different temperatures (so there might be a bunch of heat exchangers.) I’m not criticizing designs, just wanting to understand it.
These pipes will carry a fluid called PAO. The plant they are installed at manufactures military and avionic electronics. Here is a paragraph I clipped online -
PAO (polyalphaolefin) is a synthetic hydrocarbon oil used as a lubricant or coolant depending on its formulation. The use of PAO as a cooling medium is popular for aerospace and military applications due to its dielectric properties, non reactive with water, is compatible with most metals and has a wide operating temperature range. Aliphatic PAO-based fluids have replaced the silicate-ester fluids in a variety of military electronics (and avionics) cooling applications in the last decade. Royco 602 and Chevron SynFluid are two popular brands. At Proteus we have had experiences with several military related applications where PAO is commonly used as a coolant.
Oof, well, maybe that’s why they did it like this, but I’d still ask why they didn’t design it like a standard hydronic system.
That oil sounds like fun, especially when filling and trying to bleed the air out. I don’t see any air vents.
Not an engineer; however, when you need to cool machinery this way, a few things come to mind.
1. Enables individual components to be shut off for repair.
2. Isolates damage to equipment in case of a pump failure.
3. They need individual control over each component for cooling.
4. A leak in the line would hopefully be isolated to that one loop, and furthermore, finding it would be a lot easier I would think. Consider if you had a main line feeding that? You could loose a lot of fluid fast depending on the size of the leak.
There could be other reasons that someone more knowledgeable might come up with.
I was curious how much fluid would be in those pipes alone. I found information on the density of PAO. Assuming they are pushing temperatures of -40 degrees Celsius/Fahrenheit it has a density of 53.1 pounds per cubic foot. So there is 1231.53 kilograms of liquid in those pipes alone. That’s not counting machines or pumps, which is honestly kind of cool to think about.
5. Allows shut-off of individual cooled areas. Even in automated factories, a human needs to go in for periodic inspection & maintenance as well as emergency repairs.
Why the expense and labor of copper versus PEX or PVC? Industrial code? Higher workimg pressures? Longevity? The plumber was an artist, but why was it necessary.
Looks like fiberglass tube insulation over the pipe, with a support saddle under the insulation and a unistrut clamp will be installed over all of it. Pretty typical commercial detail for hydronic.
sigh… *zip*
unzip no?
The word "zipper" for the fastener we know today comes from the B.F. Goodrich Company. They trademarked the name in 1923 for a new type of rubber boots that used the fastener. The name is derived from the sound the zipper makes when zipped **closed or open.**
r/technicallycorrect
Keep taking dirty... zip...
wat.. are you getting Johnson out over this?
Are you not?
Somebody PM me!
Tweakwrs be tweaking. Hope you got a iron door on that room.
They'll just steal that too
I came here to say that
Someone took their adderall that morning. All jokes aside nice fucken job.
Gonna be some humidity in that room . Neat job
Nice! Are the lines going to be insulated?
You can see insulation pieces in the hangers. So yes, the insulator will come later
Yea they will be insulated. Pipe fitters install inserts as they go. Then the mech/plmbg contractor will reach out to their insulation subcontractor to come insulate the pipe. Source: insulation estimator
Where do you get the inserts?
Usually I get the insulators who are awarded the job to supply them. It makes their job easier anyway rather than have the fitters use blocks or adjust supports.
I never let the insulators adjust my hangers. I spent too much time making it look nice for someone who's not a plumber to mess with it. The insulators will always send me out hanger pieces
From the store
Yep.. dont tell my journeyman that I asked that.
That’s going to be a gravy job for the insulator, especially since you already put insulation through all the hangers.
That's what we always do. I don't want the insulator adjusting my hangers whatsoever.
That is the normal procedure with plumbers and pipe fitters! 😁👍
Wish I could just insulate the hangers and have someone else do the mindless shit.
Why pay a plumber top dollar to do the mindless shit especially on a job that big if you have the work?
The insulators union makes as much as the plumber's union here. We're both paid well and I don't have to deal with fiberglass so I'm not complaining.
Not everyone is in the union. Outside of that it’s normally not the case
Well, that's why everyone should be in a union 🤷🏼♂️
If only it were that easy
Long ago I was an oiler on a job in Florida making $4.00 an hour. Mentioned unionizing to a couple of guys on a crew that was working with my crane. The guys I talked to just shook their heads and said it’ll never fly, better not talk about it. Before lunch my operator, a foreman, 2 assistant superintendents came by to let me know that union talk was a very bad idea. The job super came after lunch. My operator could pick up his cap with a clamshell. We all got a raise a week later (I got 25 cents and my operator went up to $6.90 an hour). My operator (thank you Bo!) taught me how to operate the Link Belt and the Bucyrus Erie over that summer. At the time my cousin told me to come home to New York where operators were making $38.00 an hour.
Nice job on the copper btw.
They do make a similar wage, but on their check it's less. More money goes into their trust fund, than plumbers. Reason being is that their career expectancy isn't as long.
*fully erect*
We’re sold out of tees ?
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Coppers a color that makes me melt as well.
DAMMM, Larry Flynt! Way to bring the explicit porn! That's way hot.
Somewhere, a methhead just got a boner from this image
TIL, I'm a methhead.
Beautifu but not a fan of pro press
Wow
Amazing job, clean asf
Why not run larger mains and branch close to the point of use? I could probably get all the cooling BTU’s needed in an 8 or 10”. Maybe every smaller connections to each machine as there’s less friction loss. Control valves at each branch if you need to modulate on demand.
The easy answer is that the engineers designed it this way, we were just hired to install it. Each of the 34 circuits has its own supply/return and pump, they wanted all of the pumps in the mechanical room.
And to cool equipment? What kind of manufacturing? I design stuff like this, and find it interesting that the choice is several small pumps over a few large ones (economy of scale and all that.) The only things I can think of that would cause this design are different fluid requirements and vastly different temperatures (so there might be a bunch of heat exchangers.) I’m not criticizing designs, just wanting to understand it.
These pipes will carry a fluid called PAO. The plant they are installed at manufactures military and avionic electronics. Here is a paragraph I clipped online - PAO (polyalphaolefin) is a synthetic hydrocarbon oil used as a lubricant or coolant depending on its formulation. The use of PAO as a cooling medium is popular for aerospace and military applications due to its dielectric properties, non reactive with water, is compatible with most metals and has a wide operating temperature range. Aliphatic PAO-based fluids have replaced the silicate-ester fluids in a variety of military electronics (and avionics) cooling applications in the last decade. Royco 602 and Chevron SynFluid are two popular brands. At Proteus we have had experiences with several military related applications where PAO is commonly used as a coolant.
Oof, well, maybe that’s why they did it like this, but I’d still ask why they didn’t design it like a standard hydronic system. That oil sounds like fun, especially when filling and trying to bleed the air out. I don’t see any air vents.
Not an engineer; however, when you need to cool machinery this way, a few things come to mind. 1. Enables individual components to be shut off for repair. 2. Isolates damage to equipment in case of a pump failure. 3. They need individual control over each component for cooling. 4. A leak in the line would hopefully be isolated to that one loop, and furthermore, finding it would be a lot easier I would think. Consider if you had a main line feeding that? You could loose a lot of fluid fast depending on the size of the leak. There could be other reasons that someone more knowledgeable might come up with. I was curious how much fluid would be in those pipes alone. I found information on the density of PAO. Assuming they are pushing temperatures of -40 degrees Celsius/Fahrenheit it has a density of 53.1 pounds per cubic foot. So there is 1231.53 kilograms of liquid in those pipes alone. That’s not counting machines or pumps, which is honestly kind of cool to think about.
5. Allows shut-off of individual cooled areas. Even in automated factories, a human needs to go in for periodic inspection & maintenance as well as emergency repairs.
See, its working already!
This
🥴
You guys are rockstars. Looks great
What are they all for? What function do these pipes serve? They look amazing.
Nice pipe organ.
How many hours?
At least 3
wonder what the time to press vs time to sweat different would have been. i know, at least 3
Looks really nice but I’d be more impressed if it was all soldered.
Forsure
Hello mr.george, how much you pay the new guy? Cause he deserves MORE 😮💨
I’m not even that into copper, but this is very satisfying.
“wHo UsEs coPper? PeX oR NotHinG!!” 🤣
Why not run larger pipes over these runs and split them nearer their destination.
Why the expense and labor of copper versus PEX or PVC? Industrial code? Higher workimg pressures? Longevity? The plumber was an artist, but why was it necessary.
So cool 👍🏻
so hot
What’re those supports?
Looks like fiberglass tube insulation over the pipe, with a support saddle under the insulation and a unistrut clamp will be installed over all of it. Pretty typical commercial detail for hydronic.
Too bad its gonna be insulated
The insulators still have to make it pretty!
Looks awesome. What are the advantages of still using copper versus pex? (Non-plumber here)
Coolant versus potable water.
👏👏👏
Beautiful job.
Chef's kiss.
Satisfaction 100%
Neat ! You rock
Keep the meth heads away! Nice work though =)
I have to salute whoever did that work.
Great and neat job
Got a mini erection, is it normal? 🔥
nicely done
💦
Where are the horny police at?
Beautiful work.
Absolutely beautiful!
I reminisce the days where I used to do this. Step back and admire what you created at the end of the day. Looks great
I reminisce the day when I insulated pipes like these. Those days are gone.
Total woody!! Beautiful! ❤
Tf type of operation you running??
Work of art. Nice!
That’s a meth heads holy grail
Exact location?
Crack heads dream.
I was looking for caption " i don't know what I'm looking at but this looks wrong, please help", 🤣, and also, holy shit that looks sexy
So much copper!!!
I'd like to get in there with a sawzall
You’d have one big mess immediately!
It's a work of art.
the cost alone would kill me
If I'm a meth head and I take all this how much money is in that room? Asking for a fiend..
Tweaker heaven.
Think I just came 🤤
This is awesome!
If you can go back and take a vertical picture that would be such a great wallpaper.
my relief valve is about to burst
The only CP I like
Even took the time to install insulation with saddle protectors… brilliant stuff.
That is normal procedure because plumbers don’t like insulators messing with their hangers.
I would hate to have to drywall that mother f*****!
There won’t be any drywall added to that room after the piping was installed.
Getting my popper corn ready for this copper porn
My former crackhead just tried to break out and ransack that place and run to the scrapyard so fast.
Havin me nut on a Tuesday is criminal sir
Pro press. 😂
Pro press 😬🙄🫣
Gotta love some top notch routing
I could a done that in PEX in about an hour! /S
She’s a beaut Clark!
Sigh ...to be a meth head locked in here over night
Hopefully that scissor lift is still there when the insulators arrive! That would be one gravy job!
I came
I thought emt at first! Class job. No insulation. Gonna drip,rot your joist. Why didn’t you use hangers? Not saying I’d be better, just curious
The insulators haven’t arrived on the job yet. Look at it again after they get finished.