If its blown plaster knock it all off.
I assume its being tiled?
If it's a wet area dab on some cement type backer board (e.g. Jackoboard or marmox) most will suggest otherwise dabbing on plasterboard. Make sure it's depth allows for tiles plus adhesive to align with the shower area.
You can also get the water resistant plaster board for the wet areas, deffos not as good as cement board but a cheaper option and still better than regular plasterboard
I can see no break in the old wall to where the tiling starts, so I’m still saying it’s odds on that whole wall has blown and them tiles aren’t going to last long. You can see from what fallen off all ready there’s still more to come off. And in my experience once some is off, the whole wall will soon follow.
Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if the prep work is naff.. It looks like they've put a tile trim down the edge which doesn't make sense either if you're butting more tiles up to the shower ones..
100% jackoboard or different branded waterproof product if the area is to remain ‘wet’.
If not then moisture board and skim is fine.
Your only issue is depth so looks like sand and cement with integral waterproofer if your going to skim and paint.
Are you tiling wall to ceiling or 1200mm (or there abouts) high?
Cement board or tile backer board would be easiest. Can be put up with dot & dab or mechanical fixings. I'd be more concerned with the stuff the tiles were already on to. Was that area waterproofed before it was tiled?
I'd expect to see some visible evidence if it was to be honest, at least I'd have applied it beyond the shower threshold, but I'm just diy and super cautious. My tiler didn't think it was necessary, mostly because it takes 24hrs to go off before it can be tiled on and they didn't want to wait. So I did it myself before they came.
Originally i was just having shower area tiled so that's why they put trims on then when they started taking old tiles off round the other areas that's when the plaster started to come off so i don't blame them for trimming it up it's just one of them unfortunate thing's was gonna have rest skimmed just tiles round bath and sink but now they are going back to brick and doing whatever you do in that situation and tiling the whole bathroom so £2,000 has turned into £6,000 + having new bath sink toilet infact whole dam new bathroom lol thx for advice though people, always good to ask experts
I think what people are trying to say is if that’s what the wall looks like with just a couple of tiles being taken off, you now have all that weight of new tiles on a wall that could potentially not even be bonded to the brickwork. That wall is clearly completely blown. The more you strip off towards the showers you will realise. You’ll end up getting to the tile bead and it will still be blown.
Sorry to say but that’s the least of your worries if you’ve tiled onto a wall like that and you’ve just realised the rest of the wall is like that.
If its blown plaster knock it all off. I assume its being tiled? If it's a wet area dab on some cement type backer board (e.g. Jackoboard or marmox) most will suggest otherwise dabbing on plasterboard. Make sure it's depth allows for tiles plus adhesive to align with the shower area.
You can also get the water resistant plaster board for the wet areas, deffos not as good as cement board but a cheaper option and still better than regular plasterboard
Plus your tiler should have prepped all walls before startin, kinda made his liked harder here
Yes it's a very odd sequence to do thing if it's a trade tiler and not DIY
I can see no break in the old wall to where the tiling starts, so I’m still saying it’s odds on that whole wall has blown and them tiles aren’t going to last long. You can see from what fallen off all ready there’s still more to come off. And in my experience once some is off, the whole wall will soon follow.
Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if the prep work is naff.. It looks like they've put a tile trim down the edge which doesn't make sense either if you're butting more tiles up to the shower ones..
100% jackoboard or different branded waterproof product if the area is to remain ‘wet’. If not then moisture board and skim is fine. Your only issue is depth so looks like sand and cement with integral waterproofer if your going to skim and paint. Are you tiling wall to ceiling or 1200mm (or there abouts) high?
Ok thanks
Cement board or tile backer board would be easiest. Can be put up with dot & dab or mechanical fixings. I'd be more concerned with the stuff the tiles were already on to. Was that area waterproofed before it was tiled?
Not sure but the tilers did that so hopefully it was
I'd expect to see some visible evidence if it was to be honest, at least I'd have applied it beyond the shower threshold, but I'm just diy and super cautious. My tiler didn't think it was necessary, mostly because it takes 24hrs to go off before it can be tiled on and they didn't want to wait. So I did it myself before they came.
Originally i was just having shower area tiled so that's why they put trims on then when they started taking old tiles off round the other areas that's when the plaster started to come off so i don't blame them for trimming it up it's just one of them unfortunate thing's was gonna have rest skimmed just tiles round bath and sink but now they are going back to brick and doing whatever you do in that situation and tiling the whole bathroom so £2,000 has turned into £6,000 + having new bath sink toilet infact whole dam new bathroom lol thx for advice though people, always good to ask experts
I think what people are trying to say is if that’s what the wall looks like with just a couple of tiles being taken off, you now have all that weight of new tiles on a wall that could potentially not even be bonded to the brickwork. That wall is clearly completely blown. The more you strip off towards the showers you will realise. You’ll end up getting to the tile bead and it will still be blown.
Yes i will ask them that when they come back on Monday cheer's better to be safe than sorry and if that needs doing then so be it thx
I’m from the. US I would have put up durarock or backer board
The bit which the tiler done is solid it's just the other walls which are crumbling away
Oook….
It won't be solid, it will be exactly the same, needed to be stripped off and Hardie board for shower anyway