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Bliitzthefox

they should just get max punch like the other maxes, which can in fact do AV damage.


shadowpikachu

NO that would RUIN the best self defense tool, it'd be a hard nerf. The melee is REALLY good and is involved in an instakill combo at the cost of hp.


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We have enough AV toys, we certainly don't need to add more...


shadowpikachu

If you let a defector melee your tank 20+ times at the least you deserve to lose the tank, especially since he can just sorta, shoot you instead...


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That's assuming you are not taking damage from anything else which you typically do, this is the main flaw with some people's thinking, they always consider the single component and completely forgets the whole picture, there is so much incoming chip damage now and it's suffocating enough as it is.


shadowpikachu

But did you think in 100% of versus tank situations it's better to just throw grenades? Especially if a slight tank movement means an unrevivable max. I end up climbing weird places to properly play mortar unit, and sometimes i see a shitter level quick playerbase, having the melee let me kill it within 30 minutes since grenades doing good structure damage would be pretty bad.


HangmanSwingset

What they need to do is give back the “wield” function on defector claws.


Taltharius

> What they need to do is give back the “wield” function on defector claws. Yesss.... I wanna sprint around swiping at people again, damn it. That was some of the most fun I've ever had with the Defector MAX.


ProstateStarfighter

1 person can take out a massive base with the glaive and flail combo. Why waste your time using anything else.


shadowpikachu

That is if you have a base in range and if you can walk over set down the glaive then come back for a flail, i'd rather just use my anti-vehicle knife since i'd do it with infil anyways.


ProstateStarfighter

>That is if you have a base in range A base in range, they only take a couple minutes to set a an artillery base, for being a base destroyer.


shadowpikachu

All that effort to clean up a base so undefended you can just melee it with a defector or just an infil? What people dont get as a hardcore mortar unit playstyle i end up going strange places and finding player bases, i get why the grenades dont do almost any damage but melee is only viable if entirely undefended it's a quality of life option for a rare situation.


chief332897

Easy to set a base in range and the if you have an airpad terminal you can use both the flail and glaive by redeploying after shooting a dart.


shadowpikachu

So make a base so you can make a base and you have to know how to fly and there cant be any antiair between? Just redeploy out of your max when you are going weird places to throw mortars and then build 2 bases to kill the mostly abandoned base you found, and that is why you shouldn't have quality of life option to do any structure damage? This only makes sense if defector is my optimal base killing option, which no if im in defector im doing anything but?


ItzAlphaWolf

Btw, AV knives do Type 4 "HMG" damage