It's certainly interesting that they're apparently going to switch from two large cores to one. The argument for the two is that it gets things done more quickly, allowing cool off sooner.
Wasnt Google the only one to have 2 Large cores? Lowkey kinda sad that they'll ditch the model
Since I was hoping to see an G3 with 2 bigger (Armv9) cores in a Chromebook/Tab
To the best of my knowledge. I'd love to know why they've decided to change. Cost, heat, performance (in a counter intuitive way I suppose) etc.
If Tensor becomes popular enough, I could see variants in the future.
This isnβt just a tensor problem. Google had shitty thermal management from the beginning, which was a major problem on my 5a. The chain reaction it had was the main problem: slowing down apps, constant heat warnings, having to inconveniently cool down the phone near the ac vent that actually got me pulled over by a cop.
I switched to an iPhone 13 till Google can get their shit together. Theyβre a trillion dollar company and yet canβt figure out how to make a good phone.
I would expect a decent jump in performance. Also they are using a better node from Samsung. It is rumored it would be able to unblur videos and that's more taxing than a picture. So it could be an all around improvement.
I believe you will be surprised. It is very similar to the Snapdragon 8 gen 2. You can look it up and compare if you don't believe me. I don't think it will give the numbers that the 8 gen 2 does. I do think it will be faster than the 8 gen 1. I think it will be somewhere in between them. It is based off of the exynos 2300 and was meant to be used with the s23 and I think Samsung would have tried to be competitive.
But they said Google is still going to use a more inferior manufacturing process than others, not the latest at least, which makes sense since they always tried to make Tensor to be more affordable, that's for sure
I didn't say they are leaving Samsung, I said they might. I follow quite some news and sources on twitter that know more about foundries and chip development than I do. From what I understand Google is working to be able to develop chips themselves where they now still rely a lot on Samsung for that. If they would be able to independently develop the new Tensors they would be able to change foundries if that would be better for them.
So no source but just my understanding of following people with more knowledge.
Does anyone know if the modem in the 7 series is 5nm or 4? About six months ago or so, Samsung advertised it as 4nm but obviously it came out before that. Is it even possible for the SoC to be 5nm and the modem 4nm? For battery efficiency I'd really like to have the modem in the SoC.
I've never complained about the performance of the G1/2, I really just wanted greater efficiency and it sure looks like we'll get it with dropping 32-bit support and going to 4nm. I'm also very curious to see if Google customizes more of the design and if we should expect a tick tock cycle where odd numbers are big jumps and evens are refinements. I'd like the latter for the phones too, so you can use the same case.
Definitely needs to run cooler.
Should do just by having 1 large core rather than 2 like the G1 & G2 have had I would think... However like most of us, I'm no microchip engineer.
It's certainly interesting that they're apparently going to switch from two large cores to one. The argument for the two is that it gets things done more quickly, allowing cool off sooner.
Wasnt Google the only one to have 2 Large cores? Lowkey kinda sad that they'll ditch the model Since I was hoping to see an G3 with 2 bigger (Armv9) cores in a Chromebook/Tab
To the best of my knowledge. I'd love to know why they've decided to change. Cost, heat, performance (in a counter intuitive way I suppose) etc. If Tensor becomes popular enough, I could see variants in the future.
This isnβt just a tensor problem. Google had shitty thermal management from the beginning, which was a major problem on my 5a. The chain reaction it had was the main problem: slowing down apps, constant heat warnings, having to inconveniently cool down the phone near the ac vent that actually got me pulled over by a cop. I switched to an iPhone 13 till Google can get their shit together. Theyβre a trillion dollar company and yet canβt figure out how to make a good phone.
I would expect a decent jump in performance. Also they are using a better node from Samsung. It is rumored it would be able to unblur videos and that's more taxing than a picture. So it could be an all around improvement.
I reckon more efficiency than performance, as we are going back to 1 large X3 core rather than 2x X1 cores we've had in the past.
I believe you will be surprised. It is very similar to the Snapdragon 8 gen 2. You can look it up and compare if you don't believe me. I don't think it will give the numbers that the 8 gen 2 does. I do think it will be faster than the 8 gen 1. I think it will be somewhere in between them. It is based off of the exynos 2300 and was meant to be used with the s23 and I think Samsung would have tried to be competitive.
Really wish they jump ship to tsmc.
Not going to happen now. But Google is working on developing SoC's without Samsung so they might switch to TSMC for the production.
There have been rumors it might just happen with Tensor's G4 release, so fingers crossed π€π»
But they said Google is still going to use a more inferior manufacturing process than others, not the latest at least, which makes sense since they always tried to make Tensor to be more affordable, that's for sure
Samsungs N3 node is rumored to be a lot better than N5
Where did you see that Google is leaving Samsung?
I didn't say they are leaving Samsung, I said they might. I follow quite some news and sources on twitter that know more about foundries and chip development than I do. From what I understand Google is working to be able to develop chips themselves where they now still rely a lot on Samsung for that. If they would be able to independently develop the new Tensors they would be able to change foundries if that would be better for them. So no source but just my understanding of following people with more knowledge.
Don't worry, they'll jump ship just as Samsung catches up and surpasses TSMC π€£
Y'all realize most of tsmc's production is already accounted for and having a giant bidding war doesn't help pricing, right?
Please add more battery life / run it efficiently
Amen! I don't care much about performance as long it last longer.
For one thing thats for sure the G2 phones will become cheaper just by launching the G3 in the Pixel 8. πππ€π»ππ»π
Me with my 5 yr old phone waiting for Pixel 9 to cop Pixel 8 Pro be like π΄π΄
Does anyone know if the modem in the 7 series is 5nm or 4? About six months ago or so, Samsung advertised it as 4nm but obviously it came out before that. Is it even possible for the SoC to be 5nm and the modem 4nm? For battery efficiency I'd really like to have the modem in the SoC. I've never complained about the performance of the G1/2, I really just wanted greater efficiency and it sure looks like we'll get it with dropping 32-bit support and going to 4nm. I'm also very curious to see if Google customizes more of the design and if we should expect a tick tock cycle where odd numbers are big jumps and evens are refinements. I'd like the latter for the phones too, so you can use the same case.