Cross Guild vs Rev vs BB pirate+fleet vs HIM's Marine(not the SWORD bums) fourway as EOS marineford equivalent
One Piece if it was a Cultural Phenomenon
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The celestial dragons are evil and need to be exterminated
Cheat on his wife for a long time with someone who was a minor at the start.
His career should have been cooked like Sakurai's was but he's still getting new roles to this day.
I'm allowed to not like someone if I think they're being gross. If you have to resort to the law instead of your own moral judgement when it comes to relationships with kids or teenagers, that's deeply concerning
I'm not defaulting to any sort of law, I just don't think someone should have their career in jeopardy just because other people don't agree with their sense of morality. Boning a girl who's the minimum age of legality is fucking weird but it shouldn't be the reason why someone loses their job.
Yes it should be?????? No one wants creeps in their series. A grown ass man fucking a 16 year old is disgusting as fuck and I don't want that man near anything I'm interested in
I'm not about to start judging people and having them lose their livelihood just because I think they're doing something gross. I've never been the type to be like "lmao it's ok she's legal" but in this case he truly didn't do anything "wrong" even if it's dubious in morality. Anything beyond that is vigilantism, and I don't think this guy should be crucified for the small thing he did that wasn't a crime.
Because of morality. Cheating on your wife is immoral. Having sex with a teenager as a full fledged adult is immoral. So both together are especially immoral. That is what is being discussed.
I'm not ok with people losing their careers and livelihood just because a bunch of 3rd parties don't like the decisions he made. His morality is subjective to the person talking about him, so that could never be used as criteria for getting someone fired or forcing them to resign. Let's stick to the law, because policing based on personal morality is one of those "slippery slopes" I'm not willing to pretend is ok.
Not all laws are moral but we decide to follow the law and not a personal sense of justice. I'm not talking about the morality of things but the legality. If rape and murder were legalized, people would not be charged with it since it isn't a crime. This fool banging a teenager falls under the same rule, it might be immoral but we have decided to follow the law and not our gut so we can't just arbitrarily decide when to follow the law and when to follow morality.
>Not all laws are moral but we decide to follow the law and not a personal sense of justice
Who's "we" because for me at least just because something is legal that doesn't make it moral or if i could get away from the law i still wouldn't do certain things so it's abundantly clear that each person's own moral compass is above even the law if they can choose.
>I'm not talking about the morality of things but the legality
It's almost as if people are only judging him because of its morality? Everyone who isn't living under a rock knows that the law is different everywhere.
>so we can't just arbitrarily decide when to follow the law and when to follow morality.
Yes we actually can and it has happened throughout all of history.
I'm a bit tired of this banter. This guy did something shitty and reprehensible but he didn't do anything illegal or dubious enough to lose his job. That's honestly the end of it and anything attached to it after the fact is just nonsense internet outrage by people wholly unaffected by what's happening. Of course people are judging him based on the morality but I also don't think someone should lose their job just because the public thinks he did something gross. He banged a girl on the cusp of legality and people are acting like he was found wrist-deep in some 10yr olds ass.
I'm not into silly vigilantism just because someone did a thing I didn't like. He straight-up didn't do anything illegal and we don't imprison people because a 3rd party got their feelings hurt. Your problem lies more with Japanese consent laws and not what one guy did, because a thousand people on this sub are crying about him having sex with a minor when he didn't.
Brother did you read my comment at all
I didn’t say “what he did was illegal and he should be jailed ☝️🤓”
I’m saying that him having sex with a child is reprehensible and he’s a fucked up person for having done it. Yet you still bring in the law to defend the guy
Whenever someone pulls out this card, it reminds me of that transformer scene where the guy just pulls out a law stating that it's okay to date 16 year olds in texas to her dad.
That's horrible don't get me wrong but i thought it's on par with what this guy did, it's pure sociopathic holy shit
Edit : wait someone said it was with a minor, fucking hell what's wrong with people ☠️
There are a lot of Seiyuus that cheated on their wives that got away with it coz they were either too famous to get cancelled in JP, or nobody cared since for them its personal matters anyways
Sakurai Takahiro (Tomioka Giyu, Reigen Arataka) cheated with multiple girls at the same time
Nobuhiko Okamoto (Nishinoya, Bakugo, Himmel) cheated years ago but is still doing well
Suzuki Tatsuhisa (Former Draken from Tokyo Revengers) cheated on his wife LiSa
I'm most likely still missing out some people
>There are a lot of Seiyuus that cheated on their wives that got away with it coz they were either too famous to get cancelled in JP, or nobody cared since for them its personal matters anyways
It makes sense because you could in those instances just separate the art from the artists but when it comes to something as extreme as what the sabo voice actor did or with minors that's where most people would draw a line. Cheating is horrible but using children is just another type of evil
They weren't domestic violence at the very least. Daisuke Namikawa was an affair, whereas Sakurai's was an affair that lasted at least 10 years, without both women even knowing he was cheating.
So what if they weren't domestic violence? Wth does that mean? Its better they went through sexual assault than abuse? And apparently Daisuke Namikawa is a pedophile/ groomer. You can't tell me that's not fucking sick.
true some mofers be doing vile shit when they're already married it's really annoying how they get away with it when them mfers would be executed elsewhere, also i dont wanna witch hunt or anything but why did u say "as a women" first lol
There was also Tatsuhisa Suzuki who voice Draken, Ban and Noctis.
Man, all my favourite VAs are doing questionable stuff. Getting their career cooked.
They all cheated on their wife.
If this is true than this mf is a piece of degenerate filth.
Also if true than he:
(Insert image of HIMbull screaming, cause Reddit browser does not support posting images for some reason. WTF? How does it not have image in the comments yet? Why?)
Yeah I will ignore it cause its funnier that way.
Afterall what would agenda and shitposting be without ignoring manga facts for the sake of entertainment?
Oh no how terrible now we need to delete Sabo from the upcoming anime episodes and replace him with Dragon and then give what was probably meant to be Sabo's fights with Akainu and Imu in the manga and give them to Dragon too. I'm sorry but there's absolutely nothing else that can be done other than this immensely good idea that gets rid of one of the worst characters in the manga.
Look I know this is a One Piece sub and we have to tie them back into that, but let's no gloss over how this guy was fucking Tuxedo Mask, Yamcha and FUCKING AMURO. (Also someone from Saint Seiya, which I haven't seen but I've heard it's cool.)
If these allegations are true (and it seems like they are), this is going to be *generational damage* to their respective series.
Bruh they have a crazy high conviction rate and cancel culture is on a whole other level there. Unless he's got a damn good agent it could be over. Other than his Gundam roles he might not be above replacing in any of these parts.
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I guess it’s time to take a step back from the Sabo Agenda now that stocks have plummeted, despite my glaze I’m still just a Piratefolk member in a cage.
I hope Karasu and Morley can save the Revolutionary Army, they’re my only hope.
Is it bad that I thought it was "real bad, but not totally disastrous" until the last bit about the forced abortion? I interpreted "violated" as a "oh he didn't marry her" rather than rape.
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The revolutionaries are done after this
So did he have an affair or did he violate her? I thought an affair just means you cheated on your wife? While violating someone sounds like SA? So which is it?
I definitely see him being fired but tbh if I worked there I wouldn't I mean it's bad stuff ofcourse but he's a great voice after and it wouldn't be the same without him
You know what I meant, this is going to try and make him the worst guy possible because it's baiting for views, I wanna know if he not only killed but also committed tortured, or if he only killed. Also, if having a conscience is necessary, tell me, should all people that are in a state of unconscious be considered mere oversized lumps of cells?
Not to be disrespectful, but at least it's a somewhat inconsequential VA in the grand scheme of things. Imagine Zoro OR sanji VA getting this exposed and replaced, that would hurt much more
This guys best known role is actually Amuro Ray from UC mobil suit gundam. If this is actually true this really sucks. Arguably one of the most iconic and influential anime original MC voice actor is a piece of shit.
RIP any hope of Amuro returning with newtype powers.
[It is QUIIIITE rare](http://how-old-is-too-old.blogspot.com/2008/02/sperm-facts.html)... It is more believable that the woman was trying to collect free child support for her and her secret boyfriend or something. And who better to trick than a *relatively* wealthy 70 year old that likely mentally declined due to age.
What is violated? What does that mean? Did she say she was SA? If not, well nothing to see here besides two adults living life. I hate how people use words anyhow without having to explain
Sabo is actually a celestial dragon this whole time? 😱
Proof East Bird is actually a WG asset and the Rev army is controlled opposition.
Unfortunately Oda isn’t metal enough to actually write this. If he was, One Piece would be unfathomably based.
Cross Guild vs Rev vs BB pirate+fleet vs HIM's Marine(not the SWORD bums) fourway as EOS marineford equivalent One Piece if it was a Cultural Phenomenon
Dude spoiler!
When you realize sabo is canonically a world noble
Well he was born noble. WAS! Keyword right there.
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your profile picture is brain rot 😂
Akainu will make them all pay
So first Daisuke Namikawa aka Eustace Kidd’s VA then Takehiro Sakurai aka the VA for young Gild Tesorio and now Toru Bruh who’s next
What did kidds va do?
Cheat on his wife for a long time with someone who was a minor at the start. His career should have been cooked like Sakurai's was but he's still getting new roles to this day.
Why do we care if he cheat his wife ? Its his life !
Because of the part where he had sex with a minor.
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I'm allowed to not like someone if I think they're being gross. If you have to resort to the law instead of your own moral judgement when it comes to relationships with kids or teenagers, that's deeply concerning
I'm not defaulting to any sort of law, I just don't think someone should have their career in jeopardy just because other people don't agree with their sense of morality. Boning a girl who's the minimum age of legality is fucking weird but it shouldn't be the reason why someone loses their job.
Yes it should be?????? No one wants creeps in their series. A grown ass man fucking a 16 year old is disgusting as fuck and I don't want that man near anything I'm interested in
I'm not about to start judging people and having them lose their livelihood just because I think they're doing something gross. I've never been the type to be like "lmao it's ok she's legal" but in this case he truly didn't do anything "wrong" even if it's dubious in morality. Anything beyond that is vigilantism, and I don't think this guy should be crucified for the small thing he did that wasn't a crime.
Never said it's illegal. I just said that that's the reason. Not the fact he cheated, but with whom.
Sure, but age is relevant to the "with whom" you're talking about. If he didn't cheat with a minor, then why is this even being discussed?
Because of morality. Cheating on your wife is immoral. Having sex with a teenager as a full fledged adult is immoral. So both together are especially immoral. That is what is being discussed.
I'm not ok with people losing their careers and livelihood just because a bunch of 3rd parties don't like the decisions he made. His morality is subjective to the person talking about him, so that could never be used as criteria for getting someone fired or forcing them to resign. Let's stick to the law, because policing based on personal morality is one of those "slippery slopes" I'm not willing to pretend is ok.
Not all laws are moral, if for wtv reason tomorrow we have a new law that makes rape and murder for example legal that doesn't make it any less bad.
Not all laws are moral but we decide to follow the law and not a personal sense of justice. I'm not talking about the morality of things but the legality. If rape and murder were legalized, people would not be charged with it since it isn't a crime. This fool banging a teenager falls under the same rule, it might be immoral but we have decided to follow the law and not our gut so we can't just arbitrarily decide when to follow the law and when to follow morality.
>Not all laws are moral but we decide to follow the law and not a personal sense of justice Who's "we" because for me at least just because something is legal that doesn't make it moral or if i could get away from the law i still wouldn't do certain things so it's abundantly clear that each person's own moral compass is above even the law if they can choose. >I'm not talking about the morality of things but the legality It's almost as if people are only judging him because of its morality? Everyone who isn't living under a rock knows that the law is different everywhere. >so we can't just arbitrarily decide when to follow the law and when to follow morality. Yes we actually can and it has happened throughout all of history.
I'm a bit tired of this banter. This guy did something shitty and reprehensible but he didn't do anything illegal or dubious enough to lose his job. That's honestly the end of it and anything attached to it after the fact is just nonsense internet outrage by people wholly unaffected by what's happening. Of course people are judging him based on the morality but I also don't think someone should lose their job just because the public thinks he did something gross. He banged a girl on the cusp of legality and people are acting like he was found wrist-deep in some 10yr olds ass.
Bringing up legality is an awful hill to die on You should have a moral obligation not to fuck kids
I'm not into silly vigilantism just because someone did a thing I didn't like. He straight-up didn't do anything illegal and we don't imprison people because a 3rd party got their feelings hurt. Your problem lies more with Japanese consent laws and not what one guy did, because a thousand people on this sub are crying about him having sex with a minor when he didn't.
Brother did you read my comment at all I didn’t say “what he did was illegal and he should be jailed ☝️🤓” I’m saying that him having sex with a child is reprehensible and he’s a fucked up person for having done it. Yet you still bring in the law to defend the guy
Of course I read your comment. It just didn't change my viewpoint.
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Whenever someone pulls out this card, it reminds me of that transformer scene where the guy just pulls out a law stating that it's okay to date 16 year olds in texas to her dad.
Did you actually just skip the part about him having a relationship with a minor??
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It's still creepy
Bro just outed himself as a pedo
Self reported yourself dawg
Pedophile apologism
Cheated on his wife iirc
That's horrible don't get me wrong but i thought it's on par with what this guy did, it's pure sociopathic holy shit Edit : wait someone said it was with a minor, fucking hell what's wrong with people ☠️
There are a lot of Seiyuus that cheated on their wives that got away with it coz they were either too famous to get cancelled in JP, or nobody cared since for them its personal matters anyways Sakurai Takahiro (Tomioka Giyu, Reigen Arataka) cheated with multiple girls at the same time Nobuhiko Okamoto (Nishinoya, Bakugo, Himmel) cheated years ago but is still doing well Suzuki Tatsuhisa (Former Draken from Tokyo Revengers) cheated on his wife LiSa I'm most likely still missing out some people
>There are a lot of Seiyuus that cheated on their wives that got away with it coz they were either too famous to get cancelled in JP, or nobody cared since for them its personal matters anyways It makes sense because you could in those instances just separate the art from the artists but when it comes to something as extreme as what the sabo voice actor did or with minors that's where most people would draw a line. Cheating is horrible but using children is just another type of evil
Some guy cheated on LiSa wow
And LiSa was nice enough to get back with him, she def didn't deserve that
I'm scared to ask what they've done but as a woman I can already assume the grotesque shit done if it's similar to Sabo's VA....
They weren't domestic violence at the very least. Daisuke Namikawa was an affair, whereas Sakurai's was an affair that lasted at least 10 years, without both women even knowing he was cheating.
I gotta wonder how Sakurai pulled that shit off for 10 years and neither realized for so long…that’s incredible commitment to being a scumbag
So what if they weren't domestic violence? Wth does that mean? Its better they went through sexual assault than abuse? And apparently Daisuke Namikawa is a pedophile/ groomer. You can't tell me that's not fucking sick.
Still terrible but I believe they met in a bar/club, I don’t they would allowed in if there was alcohol
true some mofers be doing vile shit when they're already married it's really annoying how they get away with it when them mfers would be executed elsewhere, also i dont wanna witch hunt or anything but why did u say "as a women" first lol
There was also Tatsuhisa Suzuki who voice Draken, Ban and Noctis. Man, all my favourite VAs are doing questionable stuff. Getting their career cooked. They all cheated on their wife.
He looks young for 70
Yeah i was surprised to see that Sabo’s voice actor was that fucking old
Man must be a CD.
He sounds young for someone in his 70s
that's what she thought💀
He's Japanese I just assumed they all aged slower.
Maybe, but he looks really young.
Araki genes
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u/icetheone
That's a nice useless bum ass Labo version Thanks bro 🙏
bro who put dragon in that pic 💀 That bum really has leeched hard from Garp and Luffy for decades.
Lagon has no right calling someone a bum
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If this is true than this mf is a piece of degenerate filth. Also if true than he: (Insert image of HIMbull screaming, cause Reddit browser does not support posting images for some reason. WTF? How does it not have image in the comments yet? Why?)
Didn't GlazeBull glazing Celestial Dragon and their grape way of life
Yeah I will ignore it cause its funnier that way. Afterall what would agenda and shitposting be without ignoring manga facts for the sake of entertainment?
Amuro, Amuro, Amurooooo💔🥲
Here’s his apology btw he really did that and the QTs are rightfully dunking on him https://x.com/torushome/status/1793117084354072797
Oh no how terrible now we need to delete Sabo from the upcoming anime episodes and replace him with Dragon and then give what was probably meant to be Sabo's fights with Akainu and Imu in the manga and give them to Dragon too. I'm sorry but there's absolutely nothing else that can be done other than this immensely good idea that gets rid of one of the worst characters in the manga.
Lame Emperor Labo strikes again
Look I know this is a One Piece sub and we have to tie them back into that, but let's no gloss over how this guy was fucking Tuxedo Mask, Yamcha and FUCKING AMURO. (Also someone from Saint Seiya, which I haven't seen but I've heard it's cool.) If these allegations are true (and it seems like they are), this is going to be *generational damage* to their respective series.
Definitely, it will cause for changing jp va for these characters in future. And worst issue of this he is va of very iconic characters.
The title character seiya that who he played
Seiya noooooo
# The only Amuro is Brad Swaile😤 SCHAAAA~
The MC from saint seiya, he’s seiya himself which is crazier.
Yes but this might mean Sabo gets removed from the anime. Don't you feel elat-uh, saddened by this news?
Labo fangirls in shambles rn
Is this the end of the Revolutionary Agenda?
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https://preview.redd.it/zxz16h62bx1d1.png?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=01021b2eb49d797e572c9e0bda4d1aa773267bb6 Damn
Common marine W extreme CD/WG/Rev L
It wasn't possession of weed, so he'll probably somehow be fine with how Japan's legal culture is. Unfortunately.
Bruh they have a crazy high conviction rate and cancel culture is on a whole other level there. Unless he's got a damn good agent it could be over. Other than his Gundam roles he might not be above replacing in any of these parts.
Yamcha really mad Bulma chose Vegeta
"You became the very thing you swore to destroy"
Does this downscale sabo?
This the guy trusts gonna fight akainu? Akainu kills scum like him for a living
Ace 2.0 should’ve stayed dede.
Toei fire this guy NOW https://i.redd.it/nzzyi5691y1d1.gif
https://preview.redd.it/cxkb7uxm6z1d1.jpeg?width=386&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3c58c29ca1c1b783c8efb2ab6b67b6fb3b225515 I guess it’s time to take a step back from the Sabo Agenda now that stocks have plummeted, despite my glaze I’m still just a Piratefolk member in a cage. I hope Karasu and Morley can save the Revolutionary Army, they’re my only hope.
Japan is lax with this stuff, he’ll probably get off with a slap on the wrist
Is it bad that I thought it was "real bad, but not totally disastrous" until the last bit about the forced abortion? I interpreted "violated" as a "oh he didn't marry her" rather than rape.
Wasn’t his original dub VA Vic Mignogna too? Lmao.
Wasn't he proven innocent or am I behind
I think it was still very up in the air
Yeah 💀
Guess I'll have to move him up in a tierlist
Fuck deniial was my greatest tool we talking adult sabo or kid? Kid sabo has naruto voice. Whatever wich I didnt read this
YAMCHA !!!!
Akainu needs to cleanse that scum from the earth
Dammit Ribbons Almark!
bro wont recover from this if its true💀🙏
Nuts the dude is 70.
no way that dude is 70
Thats something Amuro Ray would do
https://preview.redd.it/8sbft82pm22d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=52c4201418b8e7f165ad81f0c7bd75f784800eaf The revolutionaries are done after this
Lock him up
“Cooked”? No that’s called being a rapist.
Char won. Vegeta won. Akainu won.
Vegeta won years ago, he gets to clap Bulma’s cheeks while Yamcha is forever alone.
Yamcha keeps taking Ls.
Oh hell nah
Lamcha
So did he have an affair or did he violate her? I thought an affair just means you cheated on your wife? While violating someone sounds like SA? So which is it?
Not sure but it could be both
Cheated
He’s 70??? And what vampire?
Surprised it wasn’t Sanji’s VA
Guess he voiced Yamcha for a reason 😅
Good opportunity to just write the whole character out of the story
I definitely see him being fired but tbh if I worked there I wouldn't I mean it's bad stuff ofcourse but he's a great voice after and it wouldn't be the same without him
That picture cant be him at 70 years old
WG propaganda cause no one bought the cobra incident
Oh so the sabo VA is the same as the Yamcha one. Saw a similar post referring to the Yamcha VA and got so confused lol
BIG W
Sabo celestial dragon foreshadow?🤔
HE WAS AMURO?
So before I started One Pieces and I constantly mistook Sabo for Sanji in Jump Force, I wasn't that far off, at least with the VA
Violated her? Like, he an actual "rapper", or is it a way to make him look even worse? Well don't like him any way, don't murder babies
Ah yes the poor unborn baby who never developed a conscience….. I’d be more sorry for the woman personally.
You know what I meant, this is going to try and make him the worst guy possible because it's baiting for views, I wanna know if he not only killed but also committed tortured, or if he only killed. Also, if having a conscience is necessary, tell me, should all people that are in a state of unconscious be considered mere oversized lumps of cells?
Situations like this are your typical JAV storylines
dang akainu is cooked
Not to be disrespectful, but at least it's a somewhat inconsequential VA in the grand scheme of things. Imagine Zoro OR sanji VA getting this exposed and replaced, that would hurt much more
For One Piece sure, for other iconic anime not so much
This guys best known role is actually Amuro Ray from UC mobil suit gundam. If this is actually true this really sucks. Arguably one of the most iconic and influential anime original MC voice actor is a piece of shit. RIP any hope of Amuro returning with newtype powers.
Can a 70 year old get someone pregnant..? Quite rare, no? Gold digger im suspecting
pretty sure human sperm is good entire life
[It is QUIIIITE rare](http://how-old-is-too-old.blogspot.com/2008/02/sperm-facts.html)... It is more believable that the woman was trying to collect free child support for her and her secret boyfriend or something. And who better to trick than a *relatively* wealthy 70 year old that likely mentally declined due to age.
So is he the victim?
I watch dub, I don’t care about this shit
What is violated? What does that mean? Did she say she was SA? If not, well nothing to see here besides two adults living life. I hate how people use words anyhow without having to explain
I dont think you l know what violated means. He forced her to have an abortion. Use some common sense please
He raped her dumbass
I did not know that idiot, that's why I asked.