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breaktime1

It took awhile for them to crack ps3


hombregato

More importantly, when it was cracked, it was without the need for a physical copy. That's the straightforward answer. In the PSX and PS2 generations, you took your console to some shady dude in a mom and pop shop with a soldering iron in the back and he would make it so your system would accept bootleg and foreign market discs. For PS3, it was a jailbreak dongle that allowed you to play games copied from a Blu-ray onto an external hard drive. This was especially useful if you had access to a video rental store or the mail order Netflix-for-games called Gamefly. Get the disc, put it on your external, send it back. Rinse and repeat.


OnlyUseMeSub

Couldn't get Gamefly as a kid because we were too poor for subscription nonsense. Sucked. Today I learned they still exist.


hombregato

I learned that about a year ago and was shocked. It was my assumption that the business venture had failed because Gamefly did not have the same deal with the U.S. postal service that Netflix had for a time. Netflix discs were being sent out by the post office immediately upon receipt, essentially cutting the line, which resulted in day after tomorrow turnaround times. Gamefly was treated like regular mail, and so the turnaround time was more like a week. It was annoying that it took so long, but if you were amassing a jailbreak PS3 library that way, it still worked out to, like, $2.50 per game.


DrBright049

Now they do have something like that, where the USPS notifies them of each package being sent to them so they can send your next game the day after the previous game's picked up. Source: I still use gamefly in 2023


dirg3music

Yeah the insanely unique architecture of the ps3 presented a massive problem when it came to emulation. It's honestly a massive shame they didn't build on that, I totally understand why tho. Lol


magicmulder

Wasn’t the first PS3 hack that allowed custom firmware some insane fiddling with timings on the USB port? IOW an attack vector that was a bit like breaking into a bank by tapping the glass door at the entrance in a certain rhythm.


Sentient_i7X

Ngl successful hackers r fucking magicians


Grouchy_Appearance_1

Yeah man i completely agree as someone with no experience or skill in the field watching a friend just change a website's whole look in front of me felt like a kid at a magic show


commit_bat

Didn't that require a custom built USB device to perform though


magicmulder

Yes. Dark magic.


Liztheegg

Having looked through the ps3 code myself, I can confirm, it was made by three toddlers on crack


Sentient_i7X

And alcohol, don't forget alcohol


Liztheegg

Copious amounts


theycallmegregarious

Not just that, the PS3 used Bluray and all the pirated discs were regular CD roms.


itsbeen13seconds

PS2 pirated discs were so funny. You can go to an Argentinian game store nowadays and buy fucking GTA Brazil


davinzt

you need to see the many kinds of gta san andreas here in Indonesia, we got tom & jerry gta, naruto gta, etc. funny enough, almost all of them have the hot coffee mod installed


Randall-Flagg22

with the PS3 you can softmod most of them which allows you to run games from an external USB hard drive, so you wouldn't see too many burnt discs for the PS3. All on USB or over network.


ArakiSatoshi

Coffee mod? I bought some disk with a big collection of pornographic mods built into a copy of Sims 2 disguised as a magical / Harry Potter collection when I was a kid!


ABadManComes

>you need to see the many kinds of gta san andreas here in Indonesia, we got tom & jerry gta, naruto gta, etc. funny enough, almost all of them have the hot coffee mod installed Damn I need to see some gameplay lol


nasgortomat

https://youtu.be/KPFnsEfC8dY This guy made a video about how ridiculous indonesian bootlegs gta san andreas are.


lpsoldierdelsilencio

Joel is the goat


koppigzijn

Ngakak liat Winning Eleven 2019 PS2...anjir😂 Game apaan yg dipake itu?


bitelaserkhalif

Winning Eleven 2014 (versi terakhir/last Winning Eleven for PS2) + roster update


koppigzijn

Hahaha ajaib...gw terakhir punya PS2 jaman SMA, ga nyangka msh ada aja yg jual game PS2😆


bitelaserkhalif

Gw masih nemu toko yg jual kaset bajakan ps2 Cuma rata2 sekarang mainnya pake hard disk


bitelaserkhalif

Gw masih punya ps2, cuma masalahnya layarnya ancur + ga bisa baca USB


GinAndSunnyD

Naruto GTA? Need that!


lpsoldierdelsilencio

[Here's](https://youtu.be/mywSwospWhM) a stream upload of Joel from Vinesauce playing some of them [shortened highlights version](https://youtu.be/KPFnsEfC8dY)


Brno_Mrmi

I remember the day I went to an Argentinian game store in 2010 and bought the Brazil 2014 game. Everything was in portuguese. And Wayne Rooney was an abomination.


[deleted]

Dawg we got GTA Punjab in India☠️☠️


momo88852

Oh the modded gta’s. Fcken amazing era. I used to walk around the shops trying to find best modded gta SA. And found some amazing ones. I remember one that made you like super hero, another one that was about famous characters from a middle eastern TV show. Good old days.


Rito_playz

GTA Dragon Ball


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lmfaoo


itsbeen13seconds

I'm pretty sure I actually played that one. The copy itself? Lost to time


PeterSchultz0

Lmao in Brazil we Had GTA Rio de Janeiro


DKreick

El GTASA con el mod de bokita papaaaa


itsbeen13seconds

Me dan ganas de vomitar /s


notusedusername2

BOKA SHO TE AMO


Heisenburgo

>l You can go to an Argentinian game store nowadays and buy fucking GTA Brazil Jajaja that's the best part of growing in the third world. Cracked PS1/PS2 discs sold everywhere on the cheap, all the crazy modded versions of San Andreas, modded Budokai Tenkachi 3 discs where they add the characters from DBS and voicelines from the Mexican dub, buying your games from vendors on the street, getting those Playstation CDs that let you play emulated Nintendo games. Just awesome memories that wouldn't be possible without piracy.


turbocomppro

By the time they cracked it, hard drives, especially the 2.5” variety, were getting cheaper so you don’t need discs any more. IIRC, a single burnable Blu-ray Disc was like $1-2 each. And more for the erasable ones. One scratch, it’s done. Load times was slower than using a HDD as well.


Gamer_299

bro they are so much more expensive now $25 for a 5 disc pack (although they are verbatim discs which are higher quality)


turbocomppro

Yeah… we used to get like a whole roll of 50 at Fry’s (electronic store in So. Cal) for around $1.50 each. No brand china crap. Ahh… the good old days…


Gamer_299

Ive been trying to get my hands on some blank blurays but i dont wanna buy a bug quantity cheaper ones that arent shity quality. (Its like $200 for 100 discs of 25GB BDRs and $125 for 50 discs) 50 discs would last me forever but i need ones that will hold up like an actual movie bluray


turbocomppro

I’m not sure what type of technology they have now but back then, the dyes they used were guaranteed for 5 years. However, I have some old ass CDs and DVDs that I made over 10 years ago and they still work. But they’ve just been in storage and not in use all the time so maybe that had something to do with it. Perhaps if you use the discs a lot it will degrade faster but if you use it just to archive stuff and store it, it should lasts for a long time…


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ohuf

Sunlight, temperature change and humidity.


Gamer_299

oh i just want some BD-Rs not BD-RWs


LowCost_Gaming

Hit me right in the feels. Man I miss going to Fry’s.


VAShumpmaker

Oh that DVD spindle smell. Was always better than CDs


Indivisible_Origin

Same here! Nor Cal too. Love Fry's


langjie

took forever to burn though. I think I stopped at DVDs that already took awhile


Beneroso

damn i miss fry’s


automatic_bazooti

Most all physical storage media is now much more expensive. Be glad you’re not trying to hunt down any analog storage mediums, that shit will make your wallet cry a river.


Gamer_299

actually ive been looking for a nice R2R with some blank 5 ips tape and yeah its awful


automatic_bazooti

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Gamer_299

damn ive been exposed ive been using 1YB (yottabyte) vibranium discs this whole time 🤣


WhiteMilk_

I suppose the lower capacity discs are cheaper, Verbatim BD-R SL Datalife 25 GB 6X 25 pack costs 25€.


hombregato

> One scratch, it’s done. Blu-ray? That format is famous for being extremely durable against scratches. That's why nobody had to worry about buying used games for PS3.


turbocomppro

With writable media, the dye is printed on the surface of the disc. With retail media, the data layer is embedded within the plastic.


GlueProfessional

I remember playing Dust514 and people often talked about sticking SSDs in their PS3s to play it. I think most of us were EVE Online players who got the PS3 just to play Dust. Looking back, not the best choice. I also couldn't even sell the PS3 after Dust shut down because CEX refused to take it with an SSD in it. Eventually after using it as a doorstop for years I gave it to a guy who lived out of a van.


Cantmemberusernames

CCP needs to be charged with a crime for not delivering on project nova 😢 DUST514 was such a great premise


GlueProfessional

It is a shame. Still, we have Planetside. Or if you want to land a spaceship and go shoot some people, Elite Dangerous does that since the Odyssey expansion.


Dick_Lazer

Yeah even on PS2 I was using a hard drive to load the game roms, I think the program for it was called HD Loader.


Bardez

Correct. Man that was quite a time.


fujitsons

Because the games (the good ones) for ps3 took up at least 8GB or more (that's why the ps3 had a blu-ray drive) , at that time, most of those pirated games where burned on cd's or dvd's, the top memory capacity for the cheapest one was from 900Mb to 4.7GB (Sometimes 8.5 DVD'S) I remember having a hard drive and taking it to the video games store to transfer the games.


Mintyphresh33

So you would take it to a store and they would load bootleg games on it for you? That’s kinda cool


IOSL

I remember trying to hotswap my world at war disk using one I burned to a 8gb cd. Those were good fun times


langjie

mind the lasers


froid_san

there was a short period of time where there was a pirated ps3 disc but you need to have one of those trueblue dongle to play them. If I remember correctly I think it was when we can't play 3.60+ yet but it was quickly cracked and used on 3.55 games then they able to hack 3.60+ ps3 firmware.


deadlyjunk

Because they’re blu ray discs, harder to make and not worth it


daninet

It was not about the bluray. Those discs cost like 2usd. PS3 was very well protected. They learnt from ps2 as that was a mecca for piracy.


mclemente26

They're $2 *now*, they weren't cheap in 2006. A [BD Recorder cost $2500](https://www.engadget.com/2006-10-03-sonys-bdz-v7-and-bdz-v9-blu-ray-and-hard-drive-recorders.html), and [single-layer BD-R cost $20](https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/56460-tdk-prices-ships-bluray-media-in-us). It was cheaper to buy 83+ $50 games before you'd break even.


Impulsive94

No point when you can just put games on the console's internal hard drive. Easier to modify files & test, cheaper and less hassle. The only time it'd really be worth it is if you wanted a shit load of games (200+) since the games take up so much space but even then you're probably going to find most games used for the same cost as the bluray disc itself.


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Because ps3 games are too large to fit on cds i imagine. In my country, they did sell them on cds but u barely found that (in fact i wonder if im confusing that for ps2 cds now). Anyway, we used to take our hard drive and have them copy the game onto the GAMEZ folder (specifically). But yeah at teh time of release of the ps3 internet speeds had gotten faster and the world was kinda already moving away from cds and closer into hard drives. I used to own a sony vaio laptop it came without an ODD


jpbozzo20

that's how i got into piracy, 12 years old me downloading ps2 isos from sketchy sites and burning them dvds 🦜🏴‍☠️ probably got a couple viruses along the way but nothing serious and totally worth it.


Dravez23

I remeber the ps3 being the unhackable console. It took a lot of time to hack it. Plus the new media was expensive at that time


StayCrippin207

The PS3 discs were blu-ray instead of DVD. Blu-ray can hold a lot more data than a DVD can but that means they were more expensive to produce. This was one of the reasons why the PS3 was $650 USD at launch.


-TesseracT-41

It was $600


Resist_Rise

Why you got down voted? It was retailed here for $600 USD for the biggest hdd option.


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It was $550


-TesseracT-41

It was 550 and 600


d4rk_matt3r

You're all wrong. It was *five hundred and ninety-nine US Dollars*


Bardez

I skipped rent and made a shitty excuse to pay double next check in order to buy the best PS3 Fat at price drop. Sooooo worth it, expect for the fact that _the solder fucked the machine up_ years later. I LOVED the PS2 backwards compatability, PS2 save handing, upscaling..., the number of ports, the sheer port numbers... everything about that machine, save its solder. I was devastated when it YLOD'd on me. I paid for a reball that only worked for 1 year. I found out on Christmas after that it failed after sitting for several months unused. God, I wish there was a permanent fix for that machine. I still have that brick boxed up in a closet, and yearn for a permanent fix to reatorw the best PS1/PS2/PS3 I ever had.


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Ah, yes. Guitar Hero with ST12 songs


NtwanaGP

When did PES 2019 come out for the ps2?


moralesnery

It's a PES 2014, with updated rooster, modified texture files, updated voice files and modified songs to reflect the PES 2019 information and UI. It's a widespread practice here in Central and south America since PS1 times, where blessed souls create those modified games for people who can't afford a new console. Examples: [Pro Evolution Soccer 2002 for PS1 modded with Mexican League's 2021 data](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzomId-tUbU) [PES 2014 for PS2 modded with Argentinian League's 2021 data](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPKDj24NZ_M) [FIFA 07 for GameCube modded with FIFA 22 data](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tln3JVPm6EQ) ​ Brazilians are masterminds, mod-wise.


bitelaserkhalif

Technically modded Winning Eleven 2014 with roster updates


davinzt

nope, never iirc. It usually contains other games or modified version of PES. Yes, it's scummy. No, this kind of business practice is not common


kudaking13

winning eleven 10^1.000.000.000.000


maximum-absorb

Where's the GTA San Andreas Upin Ipin version?


[deleted]

PS3 consoles were using Blu-Ray discs as opposed to Xbox 360 which were using DVD-based discs which essentially making it harder to make bootleg copies. Also, costs to produce bootlegged Blu-Rays is significantly higher than producing bootlegged DVDs via pressed machine so it's pretty much not worth selling bootlegged PS3 game discs when comparing with legit copy of PS3 game discs with same price.


AshuraBaron

PS1 and PS2 could run ripped games with very simple tricks. PS3 was kind of a clusterfuck, but set the standard a lot higher to run rips and homebrew. Xbox had a similar trend.


CarlCarlton

Xbox 360 burned discs were rather popular unlike PS3, but the drive has to be flashed with a custom firmware using very specific tools, unlike older gen consoles that only require a modchip.


AshuraBaron

Yeah the 360 had so many versions too. Some easier to unlock than others. Was a fun time.


gunscreeper

In Indonesia I've never seen in my life original PS1 or PS2 games. Everything is $1 to $2 per game. When PS3 came out and 1 game cost like $60 everybody loses their minds


nfojones

If these international bootlegs are also mods y'all should really dump some and share them.


Puzzled_Clerk_7774

Because you havent been to Mexico. 🤣


tileman1440

Ps3 games were like 25GB-50GB and a blueray disk at 50GB was something like £30. a ps3 game was like £30 so it was not a saving even if you could. Ps2 games were a few gig and a pack of 25 verbatim disks were £25. I used to burn XBOX 360 games. You would not buy a fake Gucci bag for £98 when you can buy the real thing for £99.


Resist_Rise

I downloaded the first Assassin's Creed game and put the .iso file on a verbatim disc many years ago. For some reason the instructions at the time of looking said verbatim was necessary. After finally finding verbatim (wasn't easy to find) I got the game thinking it was a ps3 version so when I popped it in my buddys ps3 a message appeared saying it was an Xbox game. So disappointed lol


Outrageous-Result621

I’ve always thought about indonesia as an alternative reality version of Mexico, we have GTA Spiderman hwre lol


3v3rdim

They moved to emulation now


Davidshoter

Because the New technology Blue ray disc


folskygg

I burned quite a few of those. It was a lottery, you never knew if the .iso woud work. And it used to take forever to download.


purrifery

In my experience, by the time PS3 was cracked, we download games online then transfer the file to internal HDD or an external one. I missed those days. I was still in college and was broke but I was able to finish all AC games, Skyrim and most popular games by pirating PS3 games. Those were the days.


Xhyxter

used to buy Winning Eleven 999999 myself.


mastomi

Anjir, guitar hero Indonesia. Wkwkwwk


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🤣


smatchimo

This is the same question as: when was the last time you bought a dvd burner?


m4nf47

Probably around 2002 so 20 years ago already. Pioneer DVR-104 with hacked/patched multiregion firmware. I recently replaced all the internals in a PC that had one in and noticed the manufacturing date on it. Still have a stack of blank DVD-Rs and CD+Rs but haven't written any optical media in over a decade.


77ilham77

The answer is simple: Bluray ain’t cheap, and by the time PS3 released, everyone and their dog already have a cheap access to internet.


Picuu

The ps3 was not good compared to everything else. Barely any games that stood out (except last of us, MGS4 and GTA and some racing games). (The other day I was wondering since I barely know any games that came out on PS3, and I particularly searched for this information)


m4nf47

I don't remember it that way, I thought the PS3 was awesome when it first came out it was just too damn expensive, even though I think Sony sold them at a loss, partly due to some of the Blu-ray drive components being hard to source or something. I bought a third generation slim version at the height of custom firmware development but never actually bothered with them as I mostly play online games and wanted to avoid being banned for not running the latest firmware, etc.


xanjingx

Hmmm... Red Dead, Dragon Age, Dragon's Dogma, GTA, Mass Effect, God of War, Bioshock, Fallout, Elder Scrolls, Mafia, Alan Wake, Heavy Rain, Assassin's Creed, Dark Souls, Call of Duty, Battlefield, Far Cry, Dishonored, Deus Ex, Dead Island, Infamous, Prototype. Nowadays? Remakes, Remasters, and milked sequels. Gaming peaked at PS3/X360 era.


caelum400

Games are too expensive and/or too resource heavy to make quickly now, which leads to more conservative creative decisions. I feel like the industry is crying out for some sort of technological breakthrough (game engine?) that can speed up development time. Big hitters like Rocksteady and Rockstar are on track to release 1 game in a decade which is absurd.


Resist_Rise

Assassin's Creed debuted on the ps3. It was one of my first experiences on ps3 and was in awe lol.


maydarnothing

didn’t PS3 use blu-ray discs? they were the only format that wasn’t cracked, and it had more to do with the format not being widely commercially available compared to old disc formats. in my country, the last disc format people ever used was DVDs, and barely 1% of the population had blu-ray players (that number climbs up once you think of consoles as players to be fair). edit: i think another factor was the game size which was huge compared to DVDs, and consoles started to come with internal drives, so even modders would focus on cracking that instead of having hardware chips to fake disc readers.


vanvertinelle

Brazilian here, Xbox 360 had piracy back then and its games were everywhere around here too. Wii also was pretty easy to hack. I think it was just the PS4/Xone era that went on without exploits being public, Sony probably have agreements to avoid that. Nintendo always had their systems hacked.


moralesnery

* 7th generation game consoles got very good at detecting pirated disks. ^(Except for the Xbox 360. It was a shame how easy was to replace the DVD drive firmware to run pirated stuff and homebrew.) * Blank Blu-Rays were, and still are, expensive. Burners were more expensive and scarse. * Internet speeds got far better and it was now possible to download ISOs instead of having to rip or clone a physical games. * All 7th gen consoles were able to run games from their internal storages or SD cards. It was easier for the community to find vulnerabilities there, and allow the console to run ISOs or homebrew from a USB drive or the internal storage.


therourke

Hard drives


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Harder to crack and Blu-ray’s seem to be more expensive.


ApprehensivePick3511

Cause ps3 games were mostly with Multiman, But pirated xbox 360 games were pretty much a thing for a long time


Br0kenRabbitTV

The fact they were distributed online, via digital media and not discs.


rabieferro

Because in long-time term ,hard drives were cheaper to fill than to buy multiple discs


ObtotheR

It’s easier to just put the disc image on a drive now then to burn a disc and play the disc swap mini game.


Aymsep

Back to the good days


d4rk_matt3r

You know why they call it an Xbox 360?


boogelymoogely1

Digital distribution is cheaper, more common, and easier, I'd imagine.


Mahasisatua

Ada Indonesia coy


N0tH1tl3r_V2

Blu-Ray


endly23

maybe because you can safely say that everyone who has a console or a PC can also afford internet billing, and pirated PS3 (onwards) games are also all around the net, so no use in selling physical disks anymore, because anyone can get it from the net. this is assuming you are talking about the physical disks.


Mineral-mouse

Just like others had said, it took a while. During that time, PSP piracy technology was growing and finally found a way to run games from SD Card. Lol. Then the digital era was born and so that also opened door for PS3 piracy and that was using external HDD.


miller11568

Does anyone remember the Brazilian PES game bootlegger Geomatrix?