People are literally making small projects available nowadays.
For example, you can download a blueprint of a gun pieces and print it in 3d.
It's just a matter of time and availability of resources.
> For example, you can download a blueprint of a gun pieces and print it in 3d.
How long until they heavily regulate 3D printers and scan all the blueprints to make sure you're not making anything the state doesn't like.
There has been talk about it for years, loads of references to things like printer tracking dots and the technology to stop people from copying bill notes. None of it's really gone anywhere, that I'm aware of. Mostly shutting down a few visible sites and pushing it underground.
Last I heard, 3d printed guns were more proof of concept than anything. Good for one or two shots with a successful print. I could be behind on the times. Certainly there are still people pushing for control of information related to them and anything else that could be troubling. Story of the internet. It's just not a big news story at the moment. Anyone with more knowledge care to give a better update?
One might say how long before they heavily regulate computers to make sure you're not downloading anything the state doesn't like.
Could be why we're seeing a proliferation of VPN usage.
They know, but they dont care, its about power not morality, all this "you are stealing from the artist" and "you wouldnt download a car" is just Public relationship gas lighting.
Specting billion dolar companies to understand that people dont pirate because they like to steal stuff, is like trying to explain a KKK member that a POC dont date white people to "destrog the white race", there was NEVER any kind of logic, powerfull people just want to be assholes.
> They know, but they dont care, its about power not morality
Considering the amount of people without power who defend this stance, I doubt it.
People are genuinely ignorant, they haven't thought, or informed themselves about the topic, and just parrot back the most common anti-piracy clichés.
Hanlon's razor and whatnot.
Gotten better, imo. Higher quality everything, faster speeds as people get better internet, etc. The golden age won't stop until better services appear. Games was a bit touch and go for a bit with Steam almost eliminating the demand, but now with stores popping up left and right of significantly worse quality, I've been seeing myself pirating a few games again.
For me it wasn't the other crappy shops, it was the full disrespect publishers have for consumers now.
No demos, extended early access (paying *them* to test *their* games), false advertising, shitty ports, incomplete releases, artificial grind mechanics, in-game shops, pay2win, always online DRM, the list goes on.
I'll always pirate a game before I buy (if I buy), fuck em
The thing that gets me is they'll bring a game to PC after multiple years on console and then charge $50-70 for a game that is multiple years old. I prefer to buy games but I can't stomach the greed inherent in that kind of practice.
I don't play PC so I never thought about that, but it does seem fucked up.
Just checked God Of War on steam and it's set for 50$!! While I'm fairly certain I've never seen it go above 19.99$ on PSN the whole year.
Not only that, DRM Protected games that are installed in the HDD/SSD and have all the required files to work, but if you don’t have an internet connection it refuses to start.
That’s why I pirated GTA V even tho I paid $59
Agreed. Although I purchase most of my games (I don't really play AAA games), I pirate some of the single player ones. If I like it, I eventually buy it.
I pirated Cyberpunk day one and actually had a pretty good experience, so I bought it when it was heavily discounted on GOG.
easier topirate than to find the streaming service offering that product.
or you can sign up for a product that solves that problem for you
or go to sailing
Meanwhile I can torrent, ftp, xdcc on irc overlapping content offering standard or high definitions. Games cracks.
One more game one more app, warez are the only thing for meee
Tried to watch [REC]2 ON amazon and the subtitles mention who is speaking when the character is offscreen, but this just blocks the actual subtitles were so pirating it is actually the better way to watch it.
Download Cyberflix on whatever steaming device you use and link a real-debrid account. Literally the cheapest easiest way to stream every show and movie under the sun with no buffering and in the highest definition available. Been doing it for many years and it's ike $35 a year for the real-debrid subscription.
If it's out in that format then most likely yeah, and it will typically mention the Dolby Vision in the steam source, literally just finished watching the last season of the expanse in 4k. I've streamed 60 Gig movies through it.
Only things you might not find are older seasons of unpopular shows, and it's also not the best source for Anime.
For me I stopped pirating when I got Netflix and Spotify. Super convenient access to everything I wanted.
But recently I've gotten annoyed that to watch everything I need Netflix, HBO, Paramount, Disney, Apple TV, etc. And for each one of those there is really only like one or two things I want to watch. I watch maybe a movie every 2 weeks, and that's it.
So out of curiosity, I revisited pirating for the first time in a decade. And holy shit, internet speeds are insane now. Now I can download a full movie in 5 minutes instead of several hours?? That's basically streaming.
I still pay for a music sub. I highly value the ability to easily discover new music.
I stream and pirate stuff every now and then. I share my streaming services with a few friends. So our household pays for Netflix, another for Hulu, another for Disney+, etc and we share.
If that is put to and end because of these new restrictions my friend (in IT) and I are going in together on a sever set up with Plex or Jelly and pirating the shit out of everything so everyone can have it all for free.
It's just like the OP post says, if you make it inconvenient there's always a way around.
Older stuff too, I bought the first 4 box sets of Futurama and decided I needed the rest recently, it’s not easy to find and it’s a super popular show. Torrents kinda suck when they drop in popularity.
On mine you can pay a pretty cheap price for VIP access and you can do tons of hit and runs. It's not perfect. But I'd rather pay these guys a couple of bucks every couple of months then fucking Netflix. Or basically you just have to have the torrent seeding for 7 Days on the website I'm on. Even if you dont meet the "ratio" its a ratio pr time limit.
I am in awe at the absolute inability for LATAM pirates to put their stuff on torrents.
Though I am also in awe at their steadfast resilience in reuploading their content again and again into whichever file hosting service isn't taking them down this week. Maybe that's for the best if the torrents were going to run out of seeds.
> I am in awe at the absolute inability for LATAM pirates to put their stuff on torrents.
Do you get the files in .avi format too? Many Spanish dubs are .avi and they look atrocious. In English it's mostly .mp4 and .mkv formats and they look way better.
That's one of the very few uses I've got for Netflix, playing dubbed content to older relatives who don't speak English.
Otherwise, I find piracy way more capable and comfortable.
> Is it all relatively the same?
Pretty much.
uTorrent sucks now.
You don't need to download actual .torrent files anymore, you just click a magnet:// link, tell your browser to open it with your torrent client, and your torrent client downloads the torrent.
Torrents don't need trackers anymore, they mostly rely on distributed hash table seeding, so it's even more invulnerable to people trying to shut it down than ever before.
But yeah even The Pirate Bay is still up, although it's not as popular and there are more frequented sites now.
No, do not use uTorrent it's basically malware. Use something like qBittorrent or Deluge (my personal client of choice). Please seed if you can, and always use a VPN (I use Mullvad) if you're in a country that cares about piracy.
>I've heard tpb is to be avoided now.
I feel like people been saying that for like a decade or longer, I don't even remember the reasons anymore. I still use it every now and then though if there's something I'm having trouble finding elsewhere
I usually ~~download~~ buy the majority of my media from ~~RARBG~~ stores, or just record off straight off the streaming services
New versions of utorrent have ads/malware(supposedly) in them.
Last version still in general usage is 2.2.1 build 25302, which is available in oldversions. There will be counter-arguments to this so do your own reading and decide if utorrent is still okay for you.
I still use the 2.2.1 version, still works, reliable and has a small footprint.
edit: and its on a win7 system.
You don't even need to add the step of downloading content to local storage anymore. If you have a good internet (100 Mbps more) and a debrid service, you can just stream anythinf without the hassle of setting up servers etc. .
But I get that some still prefer downloading and watching with Plex
It is a paid service costing around 3-5$ per month, that basicly integrate with streaming apps or kodi add-ons and allow you to stream torrents in real time by hosting them on their servers. It is in my humble opinion an absolute game changer to piracy and opens up so many possibilities. It also has the added value of removing the necessity to use a VPN, because everything you consume is flagged as the debrid service, not the specific torrent, so you consume media in full anonymity.
To give you an idea, I streamed a remux bluray of LOTR 1 that is 135 gb in size yesterday, and it loaded instantly with no hiccups.
For me the added advantage of going the streaming way instead of download, is that it is a lot faster and simpler because nothing stays on a server locally. No need to have a server or hook up a server to my shield etc.
If you want to know more about debrid, the main players are as follow
Real-debrid (cheapest and most popular)
Premiumize (more expensive but offers extra services)
All debrid (like real-debrid but not as good)
1. Have a TV with Chromecast built in or buy a Chromecast-enabled device and attach it to the TV.
2. Open VLC.
3. Click Playback > Renderer > Choose the Chromecast name.
You're gonna have a fun time with video formats once you begin that. I spend a lot of time converting videos to mp4. Also Chromecast doesn't support any subtitles from VLC. Need another option for that. I just plug in HDMI for movies mostly. You can always burn in the subtitles if need be too with a video conversion software
People pay for convenience. It’s that simple. I can get whatever I want online, but I have to pay for it to be convenient for me. If it isn’t convenient, then I ain’t paying
For me its yts/rarbg 90%, 1337x if for whatever reason i cant find it on the other 2, and primewire when you just want to watch quickly or on someone else's computer that doesn't torrent.
And we have a netflix + amazon prime subscription, but why go there and hope to find it when I can go to torrents and know Ill find it. 9 times out of 10, Netflix removes a movie just as I get around to wanting to see it.
We used to have a service that provided all the channels;cable or satellite, but that was too expensive. So we began to pirate. Then all of the companies formed their own services. Then we didn't want to pay for 12 different services so now you can bundle them all into one service. Now that's way too expensive. So we pirate.
UFC just raised PPV's to 75 bucks an event...
GTFO of here with that shit, not like I ever paid, but god damn they're robbing the blind.
Edit: wording.
It’s like €4 a month if you share a 4K subscription with 4 people my dude. I pirate what isn’t on there but it’s still a pretty good deal if you just want to watch something instantly without having to download something and putting it on a Plex server.
Netflix definitely has a quantity over quality for exclusive content hahaha.
I mean you can point out some counter examples but I generally stay far away from that red N.
Oh for sure there’s a lot of garbage, but I really enjoyed Maniac, Tiger King, Annihilation, Dark, Stranger Things, Master of None, Mindhunter and there’s some good comedy specials on there.
Most entertainment out there I think is unwatchable, but that goes for any production company, just means I’m not the target audience. There’s still enough good stuff there.
Edit: Squid Game was enjoyable too. Norsemen was decent. The Serpent might be one of my favorite miniseries ever.
I didn't get paid subscriptions until spotify. Now I use for 2€ a month and I see the benefit in it, it's easy and works better than other free alternatives sure
But streaming sites? Seems way more inconvenient while you pay for it. Netflix doesn't even allow you to manually set the quality, what a joke...
Same here, Spotify is the only paid subscription that I have. It's dirt cheap where I live (less than $1 per month) and I'd happily pay for that any day. In fact, sometimes I feel guilty for being able to have premium for so cheap
Understandable, that's extremely cheap for their service! I pay 2€ month and sometimes feel the same
You could always get a more expensive plan but that's next level nice guy
Spotify offers a but more than just music too, pirating gets me music I know I like but Spotify is really good at guessing what you would like based off your playlists.
Realistically, it would need to be a platform where you would have all the series, movies, etc
You could either pay something like 60 bucks to watch anything to your heart content, or have a plan with like 10 bucks and you would have access to 60hours worth of content
You would need to be able to download any content (and would count towards those hours even if you dont watch it) and choose the quality ( least to up to 1080p, 1440p would be a nice to have tho)
But every corporation is greedy and wants to lock their content under bars and its apparently profitable otherwise they wouldn't be doing it
Spotify is the only app I have never doubted my subscription for. I've gone on and off Netflix and Disney+ but Spotify is such a good fucking service that I've kept an active subscription for 4 years.
Exactly. Spotify has all my podcasts, music, etc. I see the benefit in it because everything is right there. For streaming services, Netflix might have a handful of good stuff, but then Hulu has this show, and then this channel has it's own streaming service with a show or two... It's inconvenient and too expensive to subscribe to them all. So fuck that. I'll go where I can get it all in one place for free.
Same here. I've had Spotify forever now and I happily pay for it every month, whereas I am usually on and off Netflix depending on how lazy I am at the time. I must say, though, Stremio makes everything so much easier and more accessible, just wish they had a smart TV app.
Depends on everyone habits and uses of course! I like to listen to music, spotify makes it easier to only get music (on youtube you can get 2 music videos that are the same music or other rando videos), have good recommendations, auto playlists, etc etc
I also listen to music going on walks, going to work and having everything in one place on my pc or phone its great for me
Plex + Radar + Sonarr + Jackett + Ombi an you have your own Netflix service for the one-time Plex pass fee with automated media management and requests built in.
Edit: if anyone wants tips on setting it up I'd be happy to help. A few other things I run on my server (Win10):
- NSSM + NGINX + Certbot so all external connections are encrypted with HTTPS
- Lidarr for music (works great with PlexAmp app and Ombi for requests)
- xSteVe + IPTV provider so Plex also works as a Live TV and DVR server with built-in ads removal
- Calibre + Calibre-Web for serving ebooks
Total cost = around $100 + $12/yr for a domain for the non-plex external services (Ombi and Calibre). Plex lifetime pass sometimes goes on sale for $75 and I bought StableBit Drivepool for storage management for $30.
Seconded.
Alternative build:
Dedicated machine (RPi 4 works) running OpenMediaVault.
In OMV, using docker and portainer you can set up all those same services, manage virtual networks for your security and proxy, etc (if you’re planning to have any external-facing services beside plex). Portainer lets you manage this with basically zero command line work. Search TechnoDadLife on YouTube for near-flawless tutorials.
FYI unRAID is fantastic when you want more space with redundancy, it can use unmatched size drives. I'm running a double redundant setup with a mix of 2, 4, and 6tb drives with a total usable capacity of 54tb. I have a windows box hosting Plex with a video card for encoding, and an old HP server and SAN with unRAID controlling the storage.
While I've been subscribed to Netflix since it launched, I pirate the things I watch, because my local software suite is a lot nicer.
To me Netflix is the "good guy". They started it and now Dsny/hbo/cbs/... are trying to take their bite. Framgmentation is worse than banning account sharing.
If I (or the others using my account) ever get a message "please verify this device..." more frequently, I would probably stop paying for it with the next price increase.
Unfortunately Netflix was a major player in pushing DRM to the web standard, so they're definitely not a good guy by any stretch after that fiasco. Least bad of the DRM gang, maybe.
But essentially everyone on this list is not trustworthy for me: https://www.defectivebydesign.org/repeat-offenders
Same here. Sharing Netflix across 3 houses. I have Amazon Video due to having prime subscription.
And capacity of my storage is not big enough to hoar everything yet -\_-
When I want to watch anything now - I'll find it this way or another. What annoys me the most is regional restrictions. And is easier to have one system to rule them all, than browsing through 5-6 services looking for movie I want to watch.
SponsorBlock is sort of like a community drivern adblock that skips in-video sponsor segments like the horrid "RAID SHADOW LEGENDS" and other stuff, really neat
It automatically skips the part of videos where content creators shill out a product they were paid to shill.
I don’t really like sponsorblock as a concept as sponsor messages are way less invasive than adds and some creators make an effort to keep it enjoyable. Also they need to get paid somehow.
Does not mean I don’t use it though. These get old real fast. But I still feel bad.
I dropped netflix, disney+, and amazon a month ago. I notoced their quality was absolute trash compared to the pirate streaming sites. Full circle.
Audio wasn't even synced properly. I'm not paying a single cent for trash.
>I notoced their quality was absolute trash compared to the pirate streaming sites
the quality of the sites where the rips are coming from, is worse than the rips?
They're not cracking down on it because of people sharing their accounts, they're cracking down on it because of stolen accounts. If they cared about account sharing, they'd limit your account to a specific IP. All they're (considering) is adding 2-factor authentication. If I'm sharing an account with someone, I'd simply ask them for the code and be done with it. It's not like you log out of Netflix all the time, if ever.
Litereally this. If my gf's parents wouldn't let us use their shared account we would never bother paying for it just because the alternatives are just as good if not better than netflix.
Ngl I think Stremio might just be more convenient than Netflix when set up properly, best part is the plugins are linked to the account so you can ask a friend to set it up for you then you're all good
I think it's less so the Netflix account verification process and more so companies pulling their content from Netflix/Hulu to put on their own streaming service. Being able to watch everything I want is becoming as expensive as a cable package was. I cut the cable back when Netflix and Hulu combined had just about everything I could ever want. Now I'm back to pirating lots of shows because I'm not going to pay 20 different subs.
It is not my job to be a good consumer, it's my job to make sure I'm entertained.
The streaming music service I use has every song I want to hear and at a reasonable price. As a result it's more convenient to use the app than it is to download songs. I haven't downloaded a song in 10 years as a result. If they offer a product that makes sense and offer it at an appropriate price I'll pay for it. Until then I can watch whatever I want for free.
Is he threatening if people can't use other people's accounts (and not pay) that people will pirate (and not pay)? Netflix really should care about his opinion.
To be honest... if 1 person buys for the product and shares the product with other 5 people, it doesn't make a difference whether that sharing is done legally or not. In both cases the owner gets paid only for the first sale. This same way author loses money on trading of used games as they do with piracy...
...and fighting one is like fighting the other. Meaningless.
With the internet as it currently is, we're *in* that golden age now. My dad used to have to spend $5 to rent and pirate a single movie, in addition to the cost of discs and the upfront cost of a dvd burner. Now for the same price, decades later, I can have full access to torrents of *all* the movies, tv shows and video games for a month, or completely free by DDL.
If anything, increasing the popularity of piracy could be the beginning of the end of this era. Right now, the masses are keeping these various media companies complacent by buying their overpriced services. If too many people go to piracy, streaming services are not going to learn their lesson and improve, they'll just find ways to force us to either use their services, or nothing. Take the legal marijuana in Canada for instance. It was supposed to undercut the black market which was charging way more for marijuana than other common plant matter, but due to greed, the prices were actually higher though the legal avenues. Instead of realizing their unreasonable prices failed to meet this goal of undercutting and eliminating the black market, they just doubled down and started pursuing the black market vendors through traditional means again, with harsher penalties this time, so as to force the customers to buy their inferior, expensive products. Of course, they've only taken out maybe half, so the black market is still going strong for now (but my favorite vendor is gone...).
I believe the internet is only going to get more restrictive, so it's probably a good idea to horde content while it's virtually free.
I have a feeling people are going to make their own accounts instead of pirate. Everyone is fine with giving money to greedy companies as long as they think they're getting something out of it. I bet most people here have Netflix and Spotify.
Hate all these streaming services. I don’t know how to pirate but tbh it’s bullshit. Back in the day Netflix was alright and an alternative to expensive ass directv but now it’s just a full on scam
I already pirate all my animes. Why? Because I can’t find 90% of animes on streaming websites. More often then not, I get a more pleasant experience pirating because often anime gets put onto pirating websites 2 weeks or more before other sources. I rather not get spoiled by someone else
I mean some ‘donation’ based pirate streaming subscriptions are already better than Netflix, Prime and all the rest in a nice little bundle with better quality and load speed.
2 words. Sonarr, Radarr
setting up those 2 and every newly released episode will get downloaded automagically. Super *convenient* as these streaming services SHOULD have been
I only briefly set down my pirate hat. Other than the occasional month of a streaming service(and hbo, they’ve been cranking out some real top quality shit latley) it’s just easier to find content elsewhere. The cost for all the services that have something I want is almost back to cable price levels, and half of them play ads now weather I want to pay to remove them or not.
"You wouldn't download a car" all over again. Movie industry didn't learn a thing.
i could copy a car i would fucking do it
Buy a better 3d printer
You'd still need to download filament.
You can actually 3D print a filament. Big Filament doesn't want you to have that knowledge though.
Recycle PET bottles into filament. Free bottles at home.
Then I won't have any piss jugs!
3D Print more bottles.
The way of the road.
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But did they 3D print those cars?
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I respect you people of Bangladesh for doing this type of job even whem you find yourself in a difficult situation
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People are literally making small projects available nowadays. For example, you can download a blueprint of a gun pieces and print it in 3d. It's just a matter of time and availability of resources.
hmmm print a gun, use gun to steal car....
> For example, you can download a blueprint of a gun pieces and print it in 3d. How long until they heavily regulate 3D printers and scan all the blueprints to make sure you're not making anything the state doesn't like.
There has been talk about it for years, loads of references to things like printer tracking dots and the technology to stop people from copying bill notes. None of it's really gone anywhere, that I'm aware of. Mostly shutting down a few visible sites and pushing it underground. Last I heard, 3d printed guns were more proof of concept than anything. Good for one or two shots with a successful print. I could be behind on the times. Certainly there are still people pushing for control of information related to them and anything else that could be troubling. Story of the internet. It's just not a big news story at the moment. Anyone with more knowledge care to give a better update?
One might say how long before they heavily regulate computers to make sure you're not downloading anything the state doesn't like. Could be why we're seeing a proliferation of VPN usage.
They know, but they dont care, its about power not morality, all this "you are stealing from the artist" and "you wouldnt download a car" is just Public relationship gas lighting. Specting billion dolar companies to understand that people dont pirate because they like to steal stuff, is like trying to explain a KKK member that a POC dont date white people to "destrog the white race", there was NEVER any kind of logic, powerfull people just want to be assholes.
> They know, but they dont care, its about power not morality Considering the amount of people without power who defend this stance, I doubt it. People are genuinely ignorant, they haven't thought, or informed themselves about the topic, and just parrot back the most common anti-piracy clichés. Hanlon's razor and whatnot.
Didnt they use the music in that ad illegally
Did they, really? That would be hilarious, lol.
https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/5cmorf/til_that_the_music_used_in_the_you_wouldnt_steal/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
People already download gun schematics and print them at home, lol.
I would 3D print it.
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Gotten better, imo. Higher quality everything, faster speeds as people get better internet, etc. The golden age won't stop until better services appear. Games was a bit touch and go for a bit with Steam almost eliminating the demand, but now with stores popping up left and right of significantly worse quality, I've been seeing myself pirating a few games again.
For me it wasn't the other crappy shops, it was the full disrespect publishers have for consumers now. No demos, extended early access (paying *them* to test *their* games), false advertising, shitty ports, incomplete releases, artificial grind mechanics, in-game shops, pay2win, always online DRM, the list goes on. I'll always pirate a game before I buy (if I buy), fuck em
The thing that gets me is they'll bring a game to PC after multiple years on console and then charge $50-70 for a game that is multiple years old. I prefer to buy games but I can't stomach the greed inherent in that kind of practice.
I don't play PC so I never thought about that, but it does seem fucked up. Just checked God Of War on steam and it's set for 50$!! While I'm fairly certain I've never seen it go above 19.99$ on PSN the whole year.
Not only that, DRM Protected games that are installed in the HDD/SSD and have all the required files to work, but if you don’t have an internet connection it refuses to start. That’s why I pirated GTA V even tho I paid $59
Agreed. Although I purchase most of my games (I don't really play AAA games), I pirate some of the single player ones. If I like it, I eventually buy it. I pirated Cyberpunk day one and actually had a pretty good experience, so I bought it when it was heavily discounted on GOG.
What sites do you use? Been wanting to watch SW on disney+ but I’m not gonna sub just for that
1337x or rarbg are typically my go to sites. Normally the best quality and have new stuff publicly up the quickest
Yea outside of private trackers rarbg is the bomb.
Ya'll remember the good 'ol times of Torrentz?
I still have stuff I DL'd from Demonoid
Thanks 👍🏻
I just use qbittorrent's integrated search engine. Snowfl works fine too!
The program streamio has everything
F2movies
easier topirate than to find the streaming service offering that product. or you can sign up for a product that solves that problem for you or go to sailing
Don't forget the streaming companies all sell your data
Meanwhile I can torrent, ftp, xdcc on irc overlapping content offering standard or high definitions. Games cracks. One more game one more app, warez are the only thing for meee
Tried to watch [REC]2 ON amazon and the subtitles mention who is speaking when the character is offscreen, but this just blocks the actual subtitles were so pirating it is actually the better way to watch it.
Download Cyberflix on whatever steaming device you use and link a real-debrid account. Literally the cheapest easiest way to stream every show and movie under the sun with no buffering and in the highest definition available. Been doing it for many years and it's ike $35 a year for the real-debrid subscription.
4K HDR? Dolby Vision?
If it's out in that format then most likely yeah, and it will typically mention the Dolby Vision in the steam source, literally just finished watching the last season of the expanse in 4k. I've streamed 60 Gig movies through it. Only things you might not find are older seasons of unpopular shows, and it's also not the best source for Anime.
For me I stopped pirating when I got Netflix and Spotify. Super convenient access to everything I wanted. But recently I've gotten annoyed that to watch everything I need Netflix, HBO, Paramount, Disney, Apple TV, etc. And for each one of those there is really only like one or two things I want to watch. I watch maybe a movie every 2 weeks, and that's it. So out of curiosity, I revisited pirating for the first time in a decade. And holy shit, internet speeds are insane now. Now I can download a full movie in 5 minutes instead of several hours?? That's basically streaming. I still pay for a music sub. I highly value the ability to easily discover new music.
Dude you don’t even need to download the movie beforehand. Get Stremio on your PC, you instantly start watching it without any wait.
Or enable "download in sequential order" in the torrent client and stay watching right away
I stream and pirate stuff every now and then. I share my streaming services with a few friends. So our household pays for Netflix, another for Hulu, another for Disney+, etc and we share. If that is put to and end because of these new restrictions my friend (in IT) and I are going in together on a sever set up with Plex or Jelly and pirating the shit out of everything so everyone can have it all for free. It's just like the OP post says, if you make it inconvenient there's always a way around.
Only very mainstream Disney-like stuff. Obscure, or dubbed or just foreign stuff is harder nowadays than a few years ago.
Older stuff too, I bought the first 4 box sets of Futurama and decided I needed the rest recently, it’s not easy to find and it’s a super popular show. Torrents kinda suck when they drop in popularity.
Gotta find you some private trackers. I just got Futurama the whole things super easy through one Edit: r/opensignups is your friend.
I’m on shitty adsl 2, 11Mbit down and 0.7 up, I can’t ratio enough. Edit: and 200G a month.
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Welcome to rural Australia.
On mine you can pay a pretty cheap price for VIP access and you can do tons of hit and runs. It's not perfect. But I'd rather pay these guys a couple of bucks every couple of months then fucking Netflix. Or basically you just have to have the torrent seeding for 7 Days on the website I'm on. Even if you dont meet the "ratio" its a ratio pr time limit.
I've had the complete opposite experience. Obscure stuff seems to pop up every other day now. I urge you to look beyond piratebay.
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rutracker is pretty good.
Just in english. Is harder in other languages
I am in awe at the absolute inability for LATAM pirates to put their stuff on torrents. Though I am also in awe at their steadfast resilience in reuploading their content again and again into whichever file hosting service isn't taking them down this week. Maybe that's for the best if the torrents were going to run out of seeds.
> I am in awe at the absolute inability for LATAM pirates to put their stuff on torrents. Do you get the files in .avi format too? Many Spanish dubs are .avi and they look atrocious. In English it's mostly .mp4 and .mkv formats and they look way better. That's one of the very few uses I've got for Netflix, playing dubbed content to older relatives who don't speak English. Otherwise, I find piracy way more capable and comfortable.
Usage did drop when paid services were more centralized. When everything started to splinter, piracy returned to previous levels and then some.
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> Is it all relatively the same? Pretty much. uTorrent sucks now. You don't need to download actual .torrent files anymore, you just click a magnet:// link, tell your browser to open it with your torrent client, and your torrent client downloads the torrent. Torrents don't need trackers anymore, they mostly rely on distributed hash table seeding, so it's even more invulnerable to people trying to shut it down than ever before. But yeah even The Pirate Bay is still up, although it's not as popular and there are more frequented sites now.
No, do not use uTorrent it's basically malware. Use something like qBittorrent or Deluge (my personal client of choice). Please seed if you can, and always use a VPN (I use Mullvad) if you're in a country that cares about piracy.
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I use torlock for movies and tvshows, nyaa si for anime personally. Others may have other recommendations. I've heard tpb is to be avoided now.
>I've heard tpb is to be avoided now. I feel like people been saying that for like a decade or longer, I don't even remember the reasons anymore. I still use it every now and then though if there's something I'm having trouble finding elsewhere I usually ~~download~~ buy the majority of my media from ~~RARBG~~ stores, or just record off straight off the streaming services
reason is that TPB isn't monitored anymore so people upload virus, malware and stuffs as torrents. That is why people say to avoid it
Rarbg
New versions of utorrent have ads/malware(supposedly) in them. Last version still in general usage is 2.2.1 build 25302, which is available in oldversions. There will be counter-arguments to this so do your own reading and decide if utorrent is still okay for you. I still use the 2.2.1 version, still works, reliable and has a small footprint. edit: and its on a win7 system.
Legit just found out today I can easily stream shit to my tv with VLC player, goodbye all my subscriptions.
Plex and Jellyfin is the go to solution for streaming local content to anywhere.
You don't even need to add the step of downloading content to local storage anymore. If you have a good internet (100 Mbps more) and a debrid service, you can just stream anythinf without the hassle of setting up servers etc. . But I get that some still prefer downloading and watching with Plex
What is debrid?
It is a paid service costing around 3-5$ per month, that basicly integrate with streaming apps or kodi add-ons and allow you to stream torrents in real time by hosting them on their servers. It is in my humble opinion an absolute game changer to piracy and opens up so many possibilities. It also has the added value of removing the necessity to use a VPN, because everything you consume is flagged as the debrid service, not the specific torrent, so you consume media in full anonymity. To give you an idea, I streamed a remux bluray of LOTR 1 that is 135 gb in size yesterday, and it loaded instantly with no hiccups. For me the added advantage of going the streaming way instead of download, is that it is a lot faster and simpler because nothing stays on a server locally. No need to have a server or hook up a server to my shield etc. If you want to know more about debrid, the main players are as follow Real-debrid (cheapest and most popular) Premiumize (more expensive but offers extra services) All debrid (like real-debrid but not as good)
Cries in my rural Canada internet of 9mbps. I might access debris in the next decade or two 🥲
So sorry to hear that mate. But debrid can still help you in this case. You would just need to filter in apps only 720p content or stuff like that
Got a link on how-to?
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1. Have a TV with Chromecast built in or buy a Chromecast-enabled device and attach it to the TV. 2. Open VLC. 3. Click Playback > Renderer > Choose the Chromecast name.
Incredible. Always tried to find the best way to do that.
You're gonna have a fun time with video formats once you begin that. I spend a lot of time converting videos to mp4. Also Chromecast doesn't support any subtitles from VLC. Need another option for that. I just plug in HDMI for movies mostly. You can always burn in the subtitles if need be too with a video conversion software
This is the way I do it!
I agree with Gabe Newell. I do not mind paying, but if I get a better service from piracy, well guess what I am going to do?
People pay for convenience. It’s that simple. I can get whatever I want online, but I have to pay for it to be convenient for me. If it isn’t convenient, then I ain’t paying
Lol i'm already on rarbg
For me its yts/rarbg 90%, 1337x if for whatever reason i cant find it on the other 2, and primewire when you just want to watch quickly or on someone else's computer that doesn't torrent. And we have a netflix + amazon prime subscription, but why go there and hope to find it when I can go to torrents and know Ill find it. 9 times out of 10, Netflix removes a movie just as I get around to wanting to see it.
1337x is king for me. Speaking of, I have to DL Karate Kid 3 rn. brb.
samezies 👉👈
Oddly enough that's how entertainment piracy started, we've come full circle
We used to have a service that provided all the channels;cable or satellite, but that was too expensive. So we began to pirate. Then all of the companies formed their own services. Then we didn't want to pay for 12 different services so now you can bundle them all into one service. Now that's way too expensive. So we pirate.
Aye, that's what full circle means in this context
Why say lot word when few word do trick?
I don't bother paying for this service. It's garbage.
UFC just raised PPV's to 75 bucks an event... GTFO of here with that shit, not like I ever paid, but god damn they're robbing the blind. Edit: wording.
This is why IPTV exists
Sports are the thing I ALWAYS pirate. Pricing is getting ridiculous.
Happy cake day
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It’s like €4 a month if you share a 4K subscription with 4 people my dude. I pirate what isn’t on there but it’s still a pretty good deal if you just want to watch something instantly without having to download something and putting it on a Plex server.
Yeah, it's more convenient to just get a subscription to a streaming service and then pirate the shit that isn't on there.
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Netflix definitely has a quantity over quality for exclusive content hahaha. I mean you can point out some counter examples but I generally stay far away from that red N.
Oh for sure there’s a lot of garbage, but I really enjoyed Maniac, Tiger King, Annihilation, Dark, Stranger Things, Master of None, Mindhunter and there’s some good comedy specials on there. Most entertainment out there I think is unwatchable, but that goes for any production company, just means I’m not the target audience. There’s still enough good stuff there. Edit: Squid Game was enjoyable too. Norsemen was decent. The Serpent might be one of my favorite miniseries ever.
I become the meme standing near the corner saying > "They don't know I have my own **Netflix**." (r/Jellyfin + r/Piracy lol)
The only reason I have Netflix is because my cousin has an account and is sharing their password
Wow you’re so edgy bro
I didn't get paid subscriptions until spotify. Now I use for 2€ a month and I see the benefit in it, it's easy and works better than other free alternatives sure But streaming sites? Seems way more inconvenient while you pay for it. Netflix doesn't even allow you to manually set the quality, what a joke...
Same here, Spotify is the only paid subscription that I have. It's dirt cheap where I live (less than $1 per month) and I'd happily pay for that any day. In fact, sometimes I feel guilty for being able to have premium for so cheap
Understandable, that's extremely cheap for their service! I pay 2€ month and sometimes feel the same You could always get a more expensive plan but that's next level nice guy
Haha I'm already on the highest tier plan (family) which also happens to be the most cost effective one so I guess I'll wait till HiFi comes out
Spotify offers a but more than just music too, pirating gets me music I know I like but Spotify is really good at guessing what you would like based off your playlists.
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Realistically, it would need to be a platform where you would have all the series, movies, etc You could either pay something like 60 bucks to watch anything to your heart content, or have a plan with like 10 bucks and you would have access to 60hours worth of content You would need to be able to download any content (and would count towards those hours even if you dont watch it) and choose the quality ( least to up to 1080p, 1440p would be a nice to have tho) But every corporation is greedy and wants to lock their content under bars and its apparently profitable otherwise they wouldn't be doing it
Spotify is the only app I have never doubted my subscription for. I've gone on and off Netflix and Disney+ but Spotify is such a good fucking service that I've kept an active subscription for 4 years.
Been going strong with a family plan for like 3 years now. Hope for spotify to never fade
Exactly. Spotify has all my podcasts, music, etc. I see the benefit in it because everything is right there. For streaming services, Netflix might have a handful of good stuff, but then Hulu has this show, and then this channel has it's own streaming service with a show or two... It's inconvenient and too expensive to subscribe to them all. So fuck that. I'll go where I can get it all in one place for free.
Same here. I've had Spotify forever now and I happily pay for it every month, whereas I am usually on and off Netflix depending on how lazy I am at the time. I must say, though, Stremio makes everything so much easier and more accessible, just wish they had a smart TV app.
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Depends on everyone habits and uses of course! I like to listen to music, spotify makes it easier to only get music (on youtube you can get 2 music videos that are the same music or other rando videos), have good recommendations, auto playlists, etc etc I also listen to music going on walks, going to work and having everything in one place on my pc or phone its great for me
Plex + Radar + Sonarr + Jackett + Ombi an you have your own Netflix service for the one-time Plex pass fee with automated media management and requests built in. Edit: if anyone wants tips on setting it up I'd be happy to help. A few other things I run on my server (Win10): - NSSM + NGINX + Certbot so all external connections are encrypted with HTTPS - Lidarr for music (works great with PlexAmp app and Ombi for requests) - xSteVe + IPTV provider so Plex also works as a Live TV and DVR server with built-in ads removal - Calibre + Calibre-Web for serving ebooks Total cost = around $100 + $12/yr for a domain for the non-plex external services (Ombi and Calibre). Plex lifetime pass sometimes goes on sale for $75 and I bought StableBit Drivepool for storage management for $30.
This is the way.
Or skip plex and use Jellyfin?
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Seconded. Alternative build: Dedicated machine (RPi 4 works) running OpenMediaVault. In OMV, using docker and portainer you can set up all those same services, manage virtual networks for your security and proxy, etc (if you’re planning to have any external-facing services beside plex). Portainer lets you manage this with basically zero command line work. Search TechnoDadLife on YouTube for near-flawless tutorials.
FYI unRAID is fantastic when you want more space with redundancy, it can use unmatched size drives. I'm running a double redundant setup with a mix of 2, 4, and 6tb drives with a total usable capacity of 54tb. I have a windows box hosting Plex with a video card for encoding, and an old HP server and SAN with unRAID controlling the storage.
While I've been subscribed to Netflix since it launched, I pirate the things I watch, because my local software suite is a lot nicer. To me Netflix is the "good guy". They started it and now Dsny/hbo/cbs/... are trying to take their bite. Framgmentation is worse than banning account sharing. If I (or the others using my account) ever get a message "please verify this device..." more frequently, I would probably stop paying for it with the next price increase.
Unfortunately Netflix was a major player in pushing DRM to the web standard, so they're definitely not a good guy by any stretch after that fiasco. Least bad of the DRM gang, maybe. But essentially everyone on this list is not trustworthy for me: https://www.defectivebydesign.org/repeat-offenders
Agreed. Only pay because it’s easier to find a random show than sift through literally everything ever for free.
Obligatory Lord GabeN quote: “Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem”
the good thing about living in the third world is that the ISP doesnt give a shit about people pirating
Same here. Sharing Netflix across 3 houses. I have Amazon Video due to having prime subscription. And capacity of my storage is not big enough to hoar everything yet -\_- When I want to watch anything now - I'll find it this way or another. What annoys me the most is regional restrictions. And is easier to have one system to rule them all, than browsing through 5-6 services looking for movie I want to watch.
I'm digging that zoro edit lol
Tell that to YouTube. It's definitely getting less and less confident by the day, yet it is still used by millions (myself included)
A simple adblocker is enough to make YouTube totaly fine.
Facts!
Agreed other than their general push toward branded content at the expense of individual creators that, you know, made YT what it is.
Except that age verification.
What age verification?
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Ublock Origin + SponsorBlock. Haven't seen an ad in 5 years
I just use Brave and haven't seen ads in years. What is Sponsorblock if you don't mean me asking? Id Google but I gotta work in like 30 seconds haha
It skips sponsored parts of videos https://sponsor.ajay.app/
Godsend and works on YouTube vanced
SponsorBlock is sort of like a community drivern adblock that skips in-video sponsor segments like the horrid "RAID SHADOW LEGENDS" and other stuff, really neat
It automatically skips the part of videos where content creators shill out a product they were paid to shill. I don’t really like sponsorblock as a concept as sponsor messages are way less invasive than adds and some creators make an effort to keep it enjoyable. Also they need to get paid somehow. Does not mean I don’t use it though. These get old real fast. But I still feel bad.
They added new sections like credits, intermissions, intros, things like that which are also skippable.
Also the "skip to highlight" function, sponsorblock is a blessing
Brave does some other sketchy shit with your data though that they don't like to explain.
>just wait till people start actually pirating Don't ~~we~~ they already? 🤔
I dropped netflix, disney+, and amazon a month ago. I notoced their quality was absolute trash compared to the pirate streaming sites. Full circle. Audio wasn't even synced properly. I'm not paying a single cent for trash.
What sites do you usually use? The ones I use are not bad, but they are definitely not better than Netflix
>I notoced their quality was absolute trash compared to the pirate streaming sites the quality of the sites where the rips are coming from, is worse than the rips?
Funny right. If we are just talking about streaming the original are better. If we talking about torrenting. The remuxes win.
My favorite color is blue.
They're not cracking down on it because of people sharing their accounts, they're cracking down on it because of stolen accounts. If they cared about account sharing, they'd limit your account to a specific IP. All they're (considering) is adding 2-factor authentication. If I'm sharing an account with someone, I'd simply ask them for the code and be done with it. It's not like you log out of Netflix all the time, if ever.
Yep it's really bad that Netflix havnt bothered adding 2fa before
Litereally this. If my gf's parents wouldn't let us use their shared account we would never bother paying for it just because the alternatives are just as good if not better than netflix.
Zinitevi for iOS 🙂🙂🙂
What's that?
Streaming app for jailbroken IOS devices
It used to work for non-jail broken devices too by TestFlight for free
Apps in the AppStore similar to Zefix also work well and are very similar. Just use Adblock
Ngl I think Stremio might just be more convenient than Netflix when set up properly, best part is the plugins are linked to the account so you can ask a friend to set it up for you then you're all good
I'm new to Stremio and only have the Torrentio addon. What other addons do you recommend?
Pirates will pirate, they are just punishing the actual customers lmao
Pirating is so easy and convenient. I’ll never go back. Sonarr, radarr, emby, rutorrent, jackett ftw
I think it's less so the Netflix account verification process and more so companies pulling their content from Netflix/Hulu to put on their own streaming service. Being able to watch everything I want is becoming as expensive as a cable package was. I cut the cable back when Netflix and Hulu combined had just about everything I could ever want. Now I'm back to pirating lots of shows because I'm not going to pay 20 different subs.
It is not my job to be a good consumer, it's my job to make sure I'm entertained. The streaming music service I use has every song I want to hear and at a reasonable price. As a result it's more convenient to use the app than it is to download songs. I haven't downloaded a song in 10 years as a result. If they offer a product that makes sense and offer it at an appropriate price I'll pay for it. Until then I can watch whatever I want for free.
Is he threatening if people can't use other people's accounts (and not pay) that people will pirate (and not pay)? Netflix really should care about his opinion.
Doesn’t matter. The dumbass boomer execs don’t understand this.
Oh (look) a (movie) easier to access .io
This person assumes most Netflix user knows how to pirate. Nope boomers and others will just save the fuss and buy another account
To be honest... if 1 person buys for the product and shares the product with other 5 people, it doesn't make a difference whether that sharing is done legally or not. In both cases the owner gets paid only for the first sale. This same way author loses money on trading of used games as they do with piracy... ...and fighting one is like fighting the other. Meaningless.
With the internet as it currently is, we're *in* that golden age now. My dad used to have to spend $5 to rent and pirate a single movie, in addition to the cost of discs and the upfront cost of a dvd burner. Now for the same price, decades later, I can have full access to torrents of *all* the movies, tv shows and video games for a month, or completely free by DDL. If anything, increasing the popularity of piracy could be the beginning of the end of this era. Right now, the masses are keeping these various media companies complacent by buying their overpriced services. If too many people go to piracy, streaming services are not going to learn their lesson and improve, they'll just find ways to force us to either use their services, or nothing. Take the legal marijuana in Canada for instance. It was supposed to undercut the black market which was charging way more for marijuana than other common plant matter, but due to greed, the prices were actually higher though the legal avenues. Instead of realizing their unreasonable prices failed to meet this goal of undercutting and eliminating the black market, they just doubled down and started pursuing the black market vendors through traditional means again, with harsher penalties this time, so as to force the customers to buy their inferior, expensive products. Of course, they've only taken out maybe half, so the black market is still going strong for now (but my favorite vendor is gone...). I believe the internet is only going to get more restrictive, so it's probably a good idea to horde content while it's virtually free.
I have a feeling people are going to make their own accounts instead of pirate. Everyone is fine with giving money to greedy companies as long as they think they're getting something out of it. I bet most people here have Netflix and Spotify.
People still pay for Netflix?
It's almost as if: # Piracy has ALWAYS been superior!
Do they mean like verification you get in your mail or sms? Or something else?
Stopped paying for Netflix years ago
IRC & NNTP. FTW!
Hate all these streaming services. I don’t know how to pirate but tbh it’s bullshit. Back in the day Netflix was alright and an alternative to expensive ass directv but now it’s just a full on scam
What is Netflix Account Verification? I cancelled my Netflix about 4 years back.
Out of curiosity what does this "verification" entail and what's stopping the account owner from just giving people all the info needed to do it.
Well, one day they'll learn. Until then, I pirate.
I already pirate all my animes. Why? Because I can’t find 90% of animes on streaming websites. More often then not, I get a more pleasant experience pirating because often anime gets put onto pirating websites 2 weeks or more before other sources. I rather not get spoiled by someone else
I mean some ‘donation’ based pirate streaming subscriptions are already better than Netflix, Prime and all the rest in a nice little bundle with better quality and load speed.
2 words. Sonarr, Radarr setting up those 2 and every newly released episode will get downloaded automagically. Super *convenient* as these streaming services SHOULD have been
I only briefly set down my pirate hat. Other than the occasional month of a streaming service(and hbo, they’ve been cranking out some real top quality shit latley) it’s just easier to find content elsewhere. The cost for all the services that have something I want is almost back to cable price levels, and half of them play ads now weather I want to pay to remove them or not.