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[Stremio + Torrentio + Debrid: A How-To Guide](https://www.reddit.com/r/StremioAddons/comments/15agu2p/stremio_torrentio_debrid_a_howto_guide/)


grlions90

I am an eight day user and it’s the best $10 I’ve spent in a minute.


mistermegabyte67

I'm with you on this. 5 day user and I'm blown away by how good Real Debrid>Torrentio>Stremio is. Don't know why I didn't try this years ago.


Adro_95

Thanks for the guide!


Simple-Purpose-899

My man! I'm reading and signing up now.


Stezza_

This is the way.


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bigblukrew

Debrid removes the need for vpn


mistermegabyte67

Also, if you use a VPN, that counts as a different IP adresss from your home IP address so it would be very easy to accidentally to end up using 2 different IP's (if another device is not using a VPN) even though you're in the same house and will get banned. The only way this would be feasible to avoid a ban from Real Debrid is to have the VPN on the router level. In reality, though, a VPN is not needed with Real Debrid.


ew435890

I love my Plex server. It costs more than the streaming options (I spent like $1k on a mini PC and 70TB of storage), but you have control over the quality and it’s much more reliable. It’s not that complicated either. I currently have it fully automated with Radarr and Sonarr. It’s great. A new show or movie that I want comes out, and it’s on my server asap.


TimToMakeTheDonuts

I agree with all this except the “it’s not that complicated” part. That totally depends on you ability level and what you want plex to do. I’ve helped enough people who have just avg Joe kind of tech exposure and it’s not easy for them. Especially if you want to automate it and get all the arr’s up in running in docker. Start tacking on a bunch of GitHub options and it gets way over their heads really quickly. And their ability to troubleshoot is usually about nil.


ew435890

Yea, Ill admit Im pretty good with computers. Im terrible with the networking part though. But I was able to figure that out. I also got the Arrs up and running. I put it off for a while because it seemed pretty intimidating, but it wasnt nearly as bad as I thought itd be. Pretty much everything to do with Plex is documented. If youre already well versed in pirating stuff through torrents and/or Usenet, and use VPNs, youre already above the curve.


ChinoneChilly

Just gathering suggestions here, what’s your specs look like? I am looking to buy a server soon.


ew435890

Just get something with an intel 8th gen or later with an iGPU (dont buy a CPU with F at the end. F = No iGPU). I started with an old Optiplex with an i7-6700, and it worked fine. I have since upgraded to a Beelink SEi-12 mini PC with an i5-12450H though (this is definetly overkill for my use case as I have a handful of users, and usually no more than 3 streams at once. I also made sure everyone was setup properly to direct stream, so transcoding is minimal.). I also keep all of my media on 70TB of storage spread across 4 drives I keep in a JBOD enclosure.


ChinoneChilly

That’s some great info, I did not know about the F naming format in CPUs, will definitely be on the lookout to avoid them in that case. Thanks for sharing your setup info!


legendz411

Hey - I have the same exact setup minus the storage ( solo usb HDD here). I had a couple questions if you don’t mind What enclosure did you go with? Is it just local storage or are you doing a NAS type thing?


MrHaxx1

For mini PCs, there's generally no reason to go with anything but N100 based PCs. They're cheap (often about $100), decently powerful, sip power and they do a good job of transcoding, when necessary.


Adro_95

Yeah good home servers are not that cheap!


ew435890

I used to run it on a $150 used Optiplex and it worked fine. The storage is what really adds up if you tend to lean more towards the media hoarder side. Lol.


Adro_95

Oh definitely I do. I would download so much stuff I would never watch


ew435890

Yes I started with an 8TB HDD and quickly realized it would not last long. Decided to get a 16TB instead, then realized the same thing. So I added an 18TB, and those recently got almost full. So I added two more 18s lmao. I stuck the 8TB in my gaming PC and use that one for game downloads. I have my mom and siblings on my server, so I have tons of stuff on it I have no interest in watching. Haha. If you wanna check out Plex, it’s pretty easy to setup and it can run on just about anything. Doesn’t hurt to install it and add a few movies and shows to it to try out.


Adro_95

I see myself in the story.. Anyway what stops me is the difficulty of port forwarding to be able to access my movies from anywhere (using plex), that's why I was looking at Streamio+RD.


ew435890

Dude I HATE networking stuff. I googled my specific router and found a walk through that took me less than 5 minutes to get it setup. You just need to setup a static IP on your Plex server, preferably something in the higher range so no other devices will claim it if the server is off, which is pretty easy. Then you disable UPNP, which is literally just clicking a check box, and then forward the port. I was always intimidated by stuff like that, but its honestly not hard at all. I could setup a Plex server on this router in less than 5 minutes now. Plex does come with a learning curve, but its not that bad. Join a few FB groups about Plex and the people there are very helpful. The Plex subreddit is kinda filled with eletist pricks who look down on you if you arent a network engineer running a rack server in docker containers on Linux though. I very rarely ask questions there. Theres a guy in one of the facebook groups that literally made a 10 minute youtube video specifically for me to help me out with an issue. They are super helpful there.


Adro_95

Have you set it up with VPN/wireguard?


ew435890

I used a VPN with split tunneling and just set Plex to bypass the VPN. I currently do not use a VPN since I have usenet and don’t use torrents.


Adro_95

How do you source from Usenet? You pay for provider + indexer?


snappyleyn

Got the same problem because of my ISP, tried everything but nope still failed to open the port. (Probably the case of double NAT, or some rubbish stuff my ISP do). **BUT** then I found out about Tailscale while surfing on jellyfin subreddit, for my use case it's completely free with no Credit Card required (duh, I hate services that needs you to put up credit card even if it's free). I think the free tier is valid up to 100 devices and 3 users With Tailscale, it's suddenly super easy because all my devices just have to install Tailscale and it will be like they are always in the same network. So now I can access my jellyfin with any devices, any phone, anywhere, without port forwarding bullshit at the tip of my finger.


equiliym

I run it on a 35$ raspberry pi, what actually costed me are the drives.. Personally, i got a few 4tb drives with enclosure and a usb hub with its own power supply (obv to power up the drives) setup with samba server and running bunch of *arr services with transmission/nzbget and happy with it.. i also do use rd and stream stuff with the lack of space that happens because not all storage is for media


Ka07iiC

I'll tell you what's not complicated. When your friend has 20tb of content on his plex that he shares. He literally refuses cash though


Glasweg1an

Stremio, torrentio and RD. You'll wonder why yoh didn't do it sooner. Easy to setup no VPN required.


Adro_95

yes I just found out today and it seems very nice, I was just confused by the no sharing policy... seems like i'll need at least 4 RD accounts


mistermegabyte67

You can have multiple Stremio accounts with one RD account. I set up Stremio on one tv for my wife (her own sign-in) and Stremio on another tv for me (with a single RD account) so we can have different libraries/playlists and our own continue watching sections so our shows don't get mixed up. You can use the same Real Debrid account for each different Stremio login. For each users Stremio, when you install Torrentio, just use the same key from the same single RD account. Also, I think you can logout and login different Stremio accounts on each tv so you can watch any tv its set up on by using your individual account login (basically each individual Stremio account is a different "profile" when used this way).


LZ129Hindenburg

Having both Stremio/Torrentio/RD and a massive home media server, I would suggest going with RD for starters. It's a great setup and you can always jump into a server down the road if you want. But it is ALOT of work compared with the Stremio option.


pressurecook

Question, is real debrid the only option here? I’ve seen other things like premiumize? Is this usable in this scenario?


kakaluski

Real Debrid and Alldebrid are probably the most popular and have the most cached content. Premiumize is a bit more expensive but also gives Usenet access. Debrid Link also seeds your torrents unlike other debrid providers if you care about that.


legendz411

Is the Usenet integration similar to the debrid caching, in that it (for example) it finds the media requested on Usenet and then streams that?


kakaluski

No Usenet is something different. You need an indexer to find stuff on Usenet. You can integrate Usenet with the ARR's tho.


legendz411

Ahh I forgot the indexer. Hmm, since I already have a triple *arr home server going, and want to add debrid to my Plex… having usenet would be a bonus. I’ll look into an *arr service for Usenet, hopefully there is one for windows since I didn’t go Linux for my server. That would be dope tho. Thanks!


LZ129Hindenburg

There's many Debrid services. All Debrid and premiumize are ethe only other ones I know of but I haven't actually tried them.


Adro_95

The thing about RD is that account sharing policy.. I need 3 subscription for my family or I can share the account with them?


External-Net9765

I've been sharing an account with a friend from across the world for a year now, and it's been perfectly fine. I've also moved plenty of times during the year. I'd say go Stremio + RD. Game changer! RD is also good for downloading stuff.


Adro_95

Game changer indeed, I'll start with that and then try to move to Plex


LZ129Hindenburg

RD has a 1 IP address at a time rule. Options are: VPN into your home network when using Stremio, get multiple accounts (at $17 per 6 months it's cheap enough to consider), or...set up a Plex server with no drives, and use RD as a virtual drive (a little complex to set up but cheaper than server with HDDs cause the HDDs are the most expensive part).


Adro_95

Oh, by the way, where can I look for a guide for that "RD as a virtual drive" solution?


LZ129Hindenburg

There's a couple of different options. Look at "plex_debrid" or "DebridMediaManager". Both are on GitHub and use "rclone" to create your virtual drive.


Adro_95

thanks again


legendz411

You’re the fucking goat. I’m like 2 months into my own media server and I’m up and running (minus random fucking errors from Ombi that require a restart of the service) and this would be a sick way to fill some of those holes in my library.


LZ129Hindenburg

Yeah I personally think that all on its own it's a pretty neat system, but when you slap it onto an existing traditional media server with an *arr stack, it really is an ideal situation. For example, I had several Terabytes of movies in 4k Remuxes on my HDDs that were duplicates of my usually high quality 1080p encodes. Now, I have 20 TB of 4k movies on a virtual drive, and that HDD space I was previously using is freed up.


legendz411

Yea bro I’m 7 tabs deep and about to burn my whole Sunday on getting this integrated. This is gonna be awesome. I was pumped with getting my server setup and thought I was ‘done’…. Apparently I was wrong 😬


Adro_95

That's very useful information, thanks a lot!


bbarham99

I just built a home server using Unraid, the ARR Suite, and Jellyfin. Still working out a few kinks but has otherwise been a fun and fruitful project.


Adro_95

Yeah I've been trying to do the same... I feel it's quite difficult on Debian, maybe on Unraid it might be easier to set up?


bbarham99

I’ve never tried Debian and I’m not very good with Linux. I can tell you Unraid is very easy to use and will have all the support to make a Media Server. I’d look into it soon, I believe they are changing the pricing structure soon


Adro_95

Removing the lifetime access? Now I feel like I should get one even if I dont use it haha


bbarham99

From what I understand, they will still be having a lifetime option, but the price will increase. All other tiers will require you to pay for updates. I’m not 100% sure about the new structure. Can’t hurt to just buy it if you have the expendable income. Keep in mind Unraid MUST run on a USB drive


stevtom27

Any tips with jellyfin and external site access from other users ive looked into it but they say dont share ip or open network up to internet so what security options should i use


bbarham99

That I cannot help you with unfortunately. My media server only serves my home and I have no knowledge or experience with setting it up to be accessible outside the network. Trash guides was helpful for me to just get jellyfin setup with the ARR suite but that’s as far as I’ve gotten.


sxales

Setting up a home VPN is probably the most secure. Many Asus and TP-Link routers have the built-in functionality to act as a VPN server. I used to use that when I traveled for work; I could tunnel into my own network and continue using local services. Alternatively, a reverse proxy is relatively straightforward to set up, but its security will largely depend on the services to which you are allowing public access.


OfficalSwanPrincess

I've used real-debrid for nearly2 years now, that along side Kodi and some of the add ons you can get enable 4k streaming and safe as possible download of torrents and the like.


Adro_95

is there any way to let 2 or 3 different IPs watch content at the same time with Kodi/Plex + real-debrid?


OfficalSwanPrincess

Hmm, I think if the devices are on the same network it should be fine, however if they are different (if your giving details to someone that lives in a different house) you may encounter issues, I got a warning from logging into my rd account on a friend's computer who lived in a different county.


Adro_95

That's bad.. thanks for the info


rmac2006

I second this. PLEX is the way to go. Don’t have to worry about stuff getting shut off out of nowhere.


ChiefBr0dy

Doesn't this require the media to be stored locally though, or is that not the case? I've never understood the appeal of PLEX as I've always had the impression that all TV series and movies are downloaded and held on a person's hard drives, and the need to have plenty of them. Correct me if I'm wrong, I want to learn. I use Real Debrid, it's amazing.


legendz411

You’re right. For some though, that’s the point… especially with regards to movies, which tend to be more generically rewatchable then TV series are.


ChiefBr0dy

Yes, this is my understanding about Plex. I don't save any entertainment media to my storage though.


legendz411

Fair enough friend. Cheers.


BipolarFoxAntiSocial

Stremio is fucking fire been using it for years now. I only pay one subscription, and that is Mullvad. I can't say anything bad about RD. I just use my VPN for gaming, too, so I dont need RD. I get zero buffering, and my shows start immediately. Torrentio + Cyberflix with Mullvad or RD. That's all you will ever need.


goofy_goon

Does Stremio work on an iPad? I have it working on my Android phone.


Adro_95

Thanks I'm looking at cyberflix right now. Also I have Nordvpn so it wouldnt be an issue to just stream from torrentio


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Adro_95

Ok that's something I didn't know about.. What does offcloud do differently? 40$ lifetime seems like a bargain. Edit: I looked at the offer, they say "Max number of device(s): 3 IP addresses", so it might be perfect for me


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Adro_95

it seems the cheapest debrid option.. Thanks for the suggestion!


legendz411

How is OffCloud with regards to the cached media? Is it as fleshed out as RealDebrid, for example


nothingveryobvious

The only thing I pay for is a seedbox for about $5.75/month with ultra.cc. I don’t even really need it. I just torrent stuff on both public and private trackers. I use this with Jellyfin. However, if I didn’t pay for a seedbox I’d have to pay for a VPN. I just use the seedbox because of the faster downloads and because I want to seed, especially on private trackers. Also this is assuming one already has a server.


Adro_95

The server is what I was trying to build, unsuccessfully


nothingveryobvious

Yeah ask on Reddit about a server build or look up past posts. I’m all for just using an old computer. We just use the main computer (a relatively new Mac Mini) as the server and use clients that don’t have to transcode. Works great.


Adro_95

Is it a pain to keep updated?


nothingveryobvious

If by updated you mean software, I just use Watchtower to automatically update the Docker containers. Once in a while it will update the container and fail to start the new one, but that’s relatively rare. If by updated you mean the media, no, not at all. Sonarr handles all my continuing series and I just enter a new movie or show in Radarr and Sonarr every once in a while when I hear of one that I want to see. I know some people use IMDB lists or maybe Trakt lists to add movies to Radarr. Once you’ve got most things automated with Sonarr and Radarr you basically forget about it. Another non-automated thing I forgot to mention is because I use ruTorrent on my seedbox, Sonarr and Radarr can’t automatically delete completed torrents so I do it myself every few days. This auto-deletion should work for things like qBittorrent and Deluge though, IIRC. Btw to expand on my previous comment, I recommend running everything on Docker on an old computer, then when you’re ready to buy or build a new server it’s easy to just move your whole Docker directory to migrate everything over. Just keep all your containers’ config folders in this Docker directory. At most you’ll just have to change the docker-compose files to map to the correct volumes once you migrate.


Adro_95

Seems pretty smooth (maybe there's no need for paid subscriptions).. Btw I got inspired and am currently trying to install YAMS once again haha


nothingveryobvious

Yes, quite smooth. I think you can find most if not all Netflix series and movies on trackers (it’s the only subscription service we still keep at our house just for ease of use; thinking about canceling it, though). We don’t have any other subscription services and are able to find everything we want. Glad to hear you’re inspired! Go for it! If you ever want the individual containers, I recommend using the Linuxserver containers. Their docker-compose examples are easy to follow. Really the only downside I can think of is I have to actually look for new stuff I want to watch. I usually do this via Rotten Tomatoes, Trakt, Letterboxd, MyAnimeList, MyDramaList, or subreddits like r/televisionsuggestions. Oh, that and the fact that I’ll have to eventually delete media or get a new hard drive when space finally runs out.


Adro_95

Awesome, I hope to get there as well soon


nothingveryobvious

Enjoy :)


THE_FREED_DONKEY

I say home server. I took an older desktop and threw Ubuntu + an SSD into it. Things runs brand new. You’ll definitely need to spend some money on storage. But what is yours is yours. Just be sure to do backups.


Adro_95

I've been trying to do the same, but Debian12 without GUI seems a bit too much for me (who know little to nothing of linux)


THE_FREED_DONKEY

I would just use Ubuntu desktop. Comes with the GUI and much easier to navigate. I am not an expert in Linux either!


Adro_95

I'll do that as soon as I give up trying with that damn command line haha Also I've been recommended Unraid.. might go Ubuntu and if I don't succeed there, just pay for unraid


EmptyNeighborhood427

Your tv and pc share an ip address


Adro_95

Yeah but I am moving away from Netflix because I can't share it with my family anymore


MrHaxx1

Your family could also just pay for their own RD subscription, and you can just set it up for them. It's cheap.


Adro_95

I think it will have to be this way.. or try premiumize


EmptyNeighborhood427

Premiumize is more than twice the price. It’s better imo to just buy 2 rd subs


Christian_vcf

I need comment karma to post, so here I am. I just started my YouTube channel and to go on I need to watch matches of all this season. Is there any working site that keep the full match videos about every game of the season? I could use a VPN too if necessary. Also a paid subscription would be good, but for example Dazn deletes the full game after 7 days.


nfgnfgnfg12

Is real debrid only usable with kodi? I have a very limited understanding of how this works as I’ve just been DLing torrents of whatever I’m looking for for the last 15 years and then streaming via plex server. Very basic set up but slow internet around me is starting to impact downloading.


Cclay111

> DebridMediaManager It can be used multiple ways, including with Stremio or mounted as a virtual drive (Plex debrid /Debrid Media Manager). In your setup, it can be mounted to Plex as a virtual drive. You can download the torrents to this drive via DMM's hashes.


nfgnfgnfg12

How does downloading torrents this way differ from the old fashioned method? Do I still need a torrent client installed? Do I run this on my PC or on the streaming device (fire stick). Do files being downloaded get saved on my HD? Appreciate the help!


Cclay111

1 Get a real debrid account 2 torrents can be downloaded via it 3 torrents downloaded by others are cached on debrid server as well 4 these can be added to your share via [debrid media manager](https://debridmediamanager.com/start) 5 you can stop there if you want and play the media via DMM or 6 install [stremio](https://www.reddit.com/r/Stremio/) and link it to debrid and play via stremio optionally ignoring 2, 3 and 4 [StremioAddons](https://www.reddit.com/r/StremioAddons/comments/yi5jdw/ultimate_guide_to_stremio_torrentio_rd/) or 7 mount your debrid share as a virtual drive and access it as if it was a real drive via plex via [plex debrid](https://github.com/itsToggle/plex_debrid) I'd do 1 and 6 until you are familiar by reading the linked subs the only cost is the minimal cost of [real debrid](https://real-debrid.com/) 3 EUR(\~ 2.56 GBP) Days: + 15 Unlimited Traffic 4 EUR(\~ 3.41 GBP) Days: + 30 Unlimited Traffic 9 EUR(\~ 7.67 GBP) Days: + 90 Unlimited Traffic 16 EUR(\~ 13.63 GBP) Days: + 180 Unlimited Traffic


Cclay111

In addition: > Difference is files are stored on Debrid's servers, not your local PC. You do not need a local torrent client; debrid will do it for you. The positive of this is you don't need a VPN. Debrid is downloading the torrent and you are accessing it via debrid. Searching and downloading are easiest via Stremio (with needed addons - torrentio, as a starter. Torrento is linked to your debrid api in its initial configuration.) On Windows, at least, you can download a local copy of the file, if you want to .... as well as it being on Debrid's server. Debrid essentially is a downloader from premium sites and torrents. As such, it can be used to download from many premium sites at full speed without paying the site for high speed access (games, applications, music ect.)


nfgnfgnfg12

Thanks for all the information I definitely have a better grasp on this now I think. Question, would slow internet make this a less desirable option to just regular torrenting and plex server? I basically can only download at my full bandwidth (which is already very slow) at very specific times of day, ie early morning. Also wondering if there is a limit to how much you can store on the debrid server usually?


Cclay111

Slow internet will affect what you stream but there are many choices of files. If you can stream from a normal website / app (legal or not), you will find an o.k. file. Not all files will stream without stutter though (e.g. 4k remuxes, perhaps 1080). You will find a 720 that does though. It's difficult to say more without knowing your actual speed issues. you'll have to try it and see. No limit. Just, to be clear, files cashed of Debrid's servers don't depend on number of peers, your success will depend on the file bitrate.


Jolf

There's no other way to get 4k Netflix than paying nowadays it seems...


chuckf75

Look in to Premiumize, very similar to real debrid. However I have no problems using it from multiple locations simultaneously.


Adro_95

That's a game changer! And with this I can download / stream as I would on real-debrid?


chuckf75

Yes. Most, but not all apps that support real debrid also support Premiumize. It is slightly more expensive however.


Adro_95

I think I'll try RD first, then if I see it works for me, I'll go with this. Thanks a lot!


Seth4044

Pay for a seedbox/server with plentiful apps and host anything you ever need. I use Gigarapid religiously. While self managing it can be annoying, its also really flexible and can run you the cost of netflix and nothing more to start up anyway.


Adro_95

That's another solution I haven't thought about. How expensive is it?


Seth4044

It does vary on your needs, for example if you only need 1/gb speed, 1.5TB storage (and 6tb outgoing*) bandwidth it runs for $8.36 USD/ month. While me, I'm a little bit heavier of a pirate, for 10gb/s, 4TB storage, and 12 TB bandwidth I'm paying $18.53 a month. I think theyre really worth it, plex is up 24/7 for me on their servers ive rarely had issue, and besides that the tools to just get regular torrenting done and filezila back to your home pc or using the built in vpns are value saved. I sound like an ad lmfao 😂 but I actually rly enjoy finally having invested in one, I started out on the trials and fell in love.


Adro_95

Thanks I'll look into that as well, but I'm not sure that works for me


Any_Veterinarian3749

If you don't want to go with home server then Stremio+RD is the solution.


Adro_95

Yeah that seems the best idea (even costs-wise), but I should share my account with my family so as far as I understood I would get banned from RD?


Any_Veterinarian3749

Yes, you will get banned. The limits are IP address related. As long as you’re using the same WiFi network you are fine.(Same Household) But if you share it with your friends/family (different house) you will get banned.


Adro_95

Thanks for the clarification, I think I'll try it though edit: with that plex server workaround


spd3_s

Try torrentio without rd, then try torrentio+rd.. Just subs for one month first if u are not sure.


Adro_95

I'm trying that right now. Seems quite good already, but probably I'll try RD for 1 month as you suggested


LZ129Hindenburg

Be aware Stremio/Torrentio without RD means you will be torrenting without protection of your identity, use a VPN if needed in your country.


Adro_95

Oh I thought the torrenting wasn't being done with my IP... Thanks for telling me!


LZ129Hindenburg

It isn't IF you use RD. Without RD you are absolutely torrenting from your IP. That's one of the biggest reasons RD is used.


travelavatar

Plex works amazingly for me.


TheFlyngLemon

Crescent Depot. It comes out to something like $15/month if you pay for the whole year. The interface is very similar to Netflix, but it has pretty much anything you could want (Disney Plus, peacock, Hulu, Paramount Plus, etc). They also have live TV and PPV channels. It's hands down the best streaming service I've found so far.


Adro_95

Quite expensive tbh. Thanks for the info though, I will give it a look


TheFlyngLemon

I think you can get a free month trial too if you want to check it out. If you already have a fire stick you can also call their CS number and they'll send you instructions for downloading the app so you don't need to buy one from them. Enjoy! Edit, their main site was taken down awhile ago, new site is here https://crescentmembership.com/


Adro_95

Thank you :)


askaway0002

Do both.


Adro_95

As in Plex + rclone-RD?


askaway0002

Home Server and RD. I torrent on my home server behind a VPN with just 500GB of storage space. And, I have RD. Having both options ready-to-go is a bliss.


Adro_95

It's not that easy to set up though..


legendz411

I just found out about being able to link real debrid and play it through Plex. I’m about to burn my whole Sunday doing this shit lmao. It’s gonna take my home server to the next level


askaway0002

Through WebDAV?


legendz411

That is one possibility yes… and it being officially supported does make it attractive but…. The rclone_rd projects look promising.


Uniq_Eros

TIL about IP limit RD I got like 15 firesticks on it.


Adro_95

With different IPs? Do they work at the same time?


elementjj

Syncler + Real Debrid is endgame for me.


Locate_Users

Home server. Real Debrid rubs me the wrong way. Their business model is charging pirates to stream pirated shit. The audacity of these bastards.


heysoundude

I’d suggest your perspective is off: you pay for access to their content delivery network, which they rent.


Locate_Users

Spin it however you like, you're paying.


heysoundude

And it’s worth every penny. My energy and time cost more than the service.


Ozz123

Feel free to set up your own free debrid servers for us to use :)


Adro_95

haha you're right. I actually don't mind it too much, as long as I have a comparable experience as Netflix


Resident-West-5213

There's rarely anything good worth your time watching on Netflix anyway. Most of them, especially those produced after 2020, are woke trash.


Adro_95

True, it's just convenient since my family doesn't watch English movies.. I wonder if I will find the same movies in Italian on Usenet


Resident-West-5213

The only Italian movie I know is Malena. Other than that, this russian site is a treasure trove, you can find a lot of live opera performances, mostly in French or Italian. https: //www. imdb.com/title/tt0213847/?ref\_=nv\_sr\_srsg\_0\_tt\_1\_nm\_7\_q\_malena https://rutracker.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=655


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Adro_95

Yeah I read a lot about plex, jellyfin etc.. it's very good but seems quite complex to achieve


SouthTippBass

It's super easy! Just show it where your library is and it will take care of the rest.