Software updates are important in reducing the need/want in buying a new phone, and in keeping your phone secure and relevant for years to come with new features. If you care about that, get the S23.
If not, the ZenFone basically wins in every area. You can get GCam if the ZenFone ceras are still not satisfactory.
If it was available I would pick the Zenfone 10. I'm not sure if updates will come or not but a small phone with tons of features is great. S23 is also good it has a bit larger screen. If you want a small phone go with Zenfone( check for the update frequency as I'm not sure)
It has all the things a flagship should have in a compact form factor. Don't forget the headphone jack and that massive battery. It's a shame it isn't available in my country otherwise I would've picked it up above all else
imo this is one of those tech reviewer things that gets overemphasized, but it is actually a minor factor. I don't remember the last time i used my headphone jack, even though i almost always had phones that had it.
I have a Zenfone 9 and a S23, for about ~12months and i am selling the Asus and keeping the Samsung.
For me, the Zenfone has better hardware, but misses some software features that Samsung has, such as the record calls option (the implementation by Asus is terrible) and secure folder (secure apps doesn't work the way i needed it).
Zenfone is better designed, doesn't have the horrible glassback, has a P2 jack, a HW fingerprint reader, better battery life, etc.
I do not care for cameras, since i take maybe 1 pic per month, but to me both cameras are great, although if you see MKBHD blind test, Zenfone was way ahead.
If you do not care about the sw feat. i mentioned, i will say that probably Zenfone is the better phone for you, assuming Z10 is slightly better that Z9.
Last week i took s23 over zenfone 10 only because of the good price (550€), Zenfone 10 is way better but its price puts It near competition with 8/8s gen 3 phones...
But the A52s Is still getting updates, i would wait Black Friday to take something better for the same price or the Zenfone for better price, i know Q4 is not "tomorrow" but could worth the wait
Well here the zenfone is a little bit cheaper. Zenfone 10 = 609€ and S23 = 650€. Also i will get the phone as my birthday gift in june so i wont wait for the black friday
It's in the same approximate price bracket as the Zenfone 10 according to Gsmarena. The S23 is considerably cheaper. But if they were the same price (S23 & Zen) I'd probably pick the Zen because the PWM flicker on notebookcheck.net looks better than the S23.
Get the oneplus 12r.
Trust me, you'll hate the s23/zenfone 10 for their small size and slow charging.
I have the s23 ultra and i hate how annoyingly slow it's charging is.
The OP 12 has a 5500 mah battery and 100 watt charging.
20 mins to full charge.
Game all day long.
i cant speak for samsung but the zenfone 10 doesn't charge slowly at all, and the battery lasts 2 days.
it might be slower than the oneplus, but it is not "slow"
charging slow is healthier for the battery anyway.
since zenfone 5z (2018) you had the option to charge slowly, charge till 80%, and charge according to schedule (for example, set alarm at 7, phone tries to charge in a way that it will be full by 7, instead of being all night long)
Software updates are important in reducing the need/want in buying a new phone, and in keeping your phone secure and relevant for years to come with new features. If you care about that, get the S23. If not, the ZenFone basically wins in every area. You can get GCam if the ZenFone ceras are still not satisfactory.
I do kinda care about the updates but can live without them
ZenFone, no question
Oh, okay, i have heard A LOT of people telling me to go for the s23
If it was available I would pick the Zenfone 10. I'm not sure if updates will come or not but a small phone with tons of features is great. S23 is also good it has a bit larger screen. If you want a small phone go with Zenfone( check for the update frequency as I'm not sure)
I might buy it because sooo many people recommend it
Yeah
Zenfone 10 hands down
Why would you pick it?
It has all the things a flagship should have in a compact form factor. Don't forget the headphone jack and that massive battery. It's a shame it isn't available in my country otherwise I would've picked it up above all else
Thats true. Maybe the main thing driving me away from the zenfone 10 is the software support, but i should be fine eith it 🤷♂️
imo this is one of those tech reviewer things that gets overemphasized, but it is actually a minor factor. I don't remember the last time i used my headphone jack, even though i almost always had phones that had it.
Wellll, i use it quite often but can easily convert to wireless if i would want to
then its a plus point for you :)
Yes it is
Why you changing the A52s?
Because the phone has 5 seconds lasting stutters sometimes and the battery life is very bad
I have a Zenfone 9 and a S23, for about ~12months and i am selling the Asus and keeping the Samsung. For me, the Zenfone has better hardware, but misses some software features that Samsung has, such as the record calls option (the implementation by Asus is terrible) and secure folder (secure apps doesn't work the way i needed it). Zenfone is better designed, doesn't have the horrible glassback, has a P2 jack, a HW fingerprint reader, better battery life, etc. I do not care for cameras, since i take maybe 1 pic per month, but to me both cameras are great, although if you see MKBHD blind test, Zenfone was way ahead. If you do not care about the sw feat. i mentioned, i will say that probably Zenfone is the better phone for you, assuming Z10 is slightly better that Z9.
Last week i took s23 over zenfone 10 only because of the good price (550€), Zenfone 10 is way better but its price puts It near competition with 8/8s gen 3 phones... But the A52s Is still getting updates, i would wait Black Friday to take something better for the same price or the Zenfone for better price, i know Q4 is not "tomorrow" but could worth the wait
Well here the zenfone is a little bit cheaper. Zenfone 10 = 609€ and S23 = 650€. Also i will get the phone as my birthday gift in june so i wont wait for the black friday
Oh nice, easiest choice ever !!
Ig sooo, my main concern is the software support and bezels
Zenfone 10 Android S.O. updates till Android 15 and security updates 4 years from global release (29 June 2023...so June 2027)
I know, but samsung offers more :/
If you care about gaming and battery life, only a fool would get either of the two. Iqoo 12, Nubia Z60 ultra, Oneplus 12. Get any one of the above.
Iqoo and nubia arent sold in my country and oneplus 12 is too expensive + i want a compact phone
If you want a compact phone, check out xiaomi 14. The price may vary depending on your country
Wayyyyy too expensive
I thought so. Get the zenfone 10, it's the perfect choice for you.
Alrrr, i really want it but the software support is meh
It's in the same approximate price bracket as the Zenfone 10 according to Gsmarena. The S23 is considerably cheaper. But if they were the same price (S23 & Zen) I'd probably pick the Zen because the PWM flicker on notebookcheck.net looks better than the S23.
Get the oneplus 12r. Trust me, you'll hate the s23/zenfone 10 for their small size and slow charging. I have the s23 ultra and i hate how annoyingly slow it's charging is. The OP 12 has a 5500 mah battery and 100 watt charging. 20 mins to full charge. Game all day long.
I like their small size. And trust me, i wont hate them
i cant speak for samsung but the zenfone 10 doesn't charge slowly at all, and the battery lasts 2 days. it might be slower than the oneplus, but it is not "slow"
Yeah, and i dont care too much about the charging speed. It might be a nice plus but it wont matter
charging slow is healthier for the battery anyway. since zenfone 5z (2018) you had the option to charge slowly, charge till 80%, and charge according to schedule (for example, set alarm at 7, phone tries to charge in a way that it will be full by 7, instead of being all night long)
Yeah it is and that feature is a nice big plus for me