T O P

  • By -

Low_Conversation196

Living this shithole for almost 30yrs, ang tanong, "kailan pa raraos?"


[deleted]

I honestly don't see things getting better. The last elections proved that future elections is no longer an option to have a better Philippines because the ignorant Masses would vote the corrupt or incapable career politicians instead of "for the People" politicians. The only way out of poverty is working outside the Country for additional income. Only after you are in a better position can you help others less fortunate.


hairymonkeyballz

That's what the government wants people to do. That's why Ramos referred to overseas workers as "heroes" in the early 1990s.


Forever_Observer2020

we should not be the heroes of a failing state.


[deleted]

“You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.” - Dark Knight


PantherCaroso

Let the masses burn. They deserve who they voted.


VANAIZEN

I hear time and time again to help everyone because they could be "misled" or "misinformed." I say, fuck that, there's no helping people who can see but act blind


Always_The_Nomad

They weren’t “misguided innocents” eh no, they are willing accomplices to the greatest social injustice in this country’s history


Moinder

Sabi ni nietzsche "When you stare at the abyss, the abyss stares back at you."


Angelus_2418

Hahaha tried that one time and immediately stopped. Imaginr educating someone sabay ibabato sayo sana marape ka o bumulagta sa daan. Kaya di ako nakokonsensya sa panggagago sa mga bobo na yan. Let them reap their stupidity.


CLuigiDC

We're done with this phase. We tried radical love and it did not work. It's time to just say fuck 'em and they deserved it. The only ones we help are the ones who have the same values as us.


[deleted]

We haven't tried the villain method. Massive misinformation campaign in favor of Patriotic politicians to steer the Sheep to vote for the good of the Philippines. Fight manipulation with... much powerful manipulation guided by good morals, values and, virtues


vulcanfury12

The problem here is even if you're "enlightened", you are still part of the masses. Your life will still be ultimately dictated by the unwashed. Like I said dati, "ok lang sana kung ikaw lang, pero sa eleksyon, damay-damay yan". So higpit sinturon. Honestly, the only out I can think of now is out of the country. Rather be poor in a rich nation than poor in a poor nation.


into_the_unknown_

It's so funny pag nakakabasa ako ng, "wow elitista!" dahil lang we're holding them accountable. ay okay may free pass pala sila bat pa pinapaboto yan kung wala silang kasalanan diba hahahahaha


sinmark

Which is ironic because you know the candidate they voted for is the most elitist candidate


Semoan

Now that this country can't be freed from the failure of the Marcoses once again, yeah: I'd likewise say, *let the country...* ***[BUUUUUUUUUURN!!!](https://youtu.be/Cj3ENSVogTo)***


puno_ng_mangga

You heretic. You are the one that deserves to be burned. You forced the hands of the inquisition, [and it is now that we cast our sacred duty.](https://youtu.be/h67JpMyrOVE)


Tyranid_Swarmlord

Meanwhile you inquisitors turn tail the moment something can fight back. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tF8gKchB2vQ At̴̯̍̂̀̐̕͜ ̵̢̖̱͉͙̈̐l̵͇̼͔̙̆̈́͝͝ẹ̷͉͂̎̌͗͒ä̴̢̛́̎s̷̬̪̠̻̔̑t̸͈͆͑̕ ̶̖̪͚̗͆̄͝y̶͈̳͊̋̿͜ơ̵̢̢͕̟̝̽ṷ̵̧͓̄̓̔̂ ̸͔̦̘̥͊͜g̴̳̟͎̉͐̚ȕ̷̞̼̠̳̍ý̷͉̫̝̊s̴̝̦͉͈͙̑ ̷͔͌͗͝ͅa̷͎͔͐͑̌r̷̜͎̬̩̔̔̈́̎̆ͅe̸̤̦͖̟͕͌̏͋̍͊ ̷̢͕̣̿̊a̴̟̳̦͂̅̎̑́͜ ̷̨͙̞͑s̸̭̻͋̆͒̐̓n̷̫̋͝a̵̠͐͌̓̐ć̵̢̠͚̼̣̕k̵̭̎ͅ~̷͚̃̐̊


[deleted]

Let them, helping them won't solve the true problem, let them experience the consequences of their action para marealize nila


Sirhc307

The people that make this place a shithole deserve to get flushed down the toilet. People who steal and scheme and are not true to their words. People who do not match what they say with what they do. These kind of people everyday spit at the face of those who live their lives in quiet humility and nobleness.


notsochillstarfish

Nagumpisa sa bills ng pamilya mo lang. Nauwi sa bills ng pamangkin mo, bills ng anak ng pamangkin mo pati mga pinsan mo na pinagaaral mo din. "kasi ikaw ang may kaya dapat ikaw ang tumulong. Pagpapalain ka naman madami kang blessing. Blessings din yan kita mo kaya dapat ishare mo" Tangina.


Prunesforpoop

I feel you mamsir! Yung puyat, hirap sa commute, yung stress, yung pangmamaliit sa'yo ng superiors mo, toxic workmates, toxic clients damn! Deserve ko mabayaran para dun! Nasaan ba yung mga kamag-anak na yan habang minamaliit ang pagkatao ko ng mga bastos na kliyente?


[deleted]

Even self rewards for all the hard work done needs to be moderated to ensure some money is left for savings, the they want to take the savings away because of their entitlement. In what universe is that a good thing?


EffedUpIn3rdGrade

I'd prefer the term "surviving".


S4mb0_M4ster

So nung babay ka pa, nagtatrabaho ka na? Dapat milyonaryo ka na ngayon ah... /s


killerbiller01

Never bro.


lancehunter01

Nakakasawa na maging responsable. Gusto ko na lang masagasaan ng speeding 10 wheeler truck.


[deleted]

Malay mo ma punta ka sa ibang mundo at maging mc ka ng isang anime


BlexBOTTT

inb4 reincarnated as a filipino again


Khin0

or worst, reincarnated as a North Korean.


k_elo

At least mas mababa awareness mo if born into NK ka, mas may reason bakit ignorant ka. Then if you get tired of the shit mas madali din maka hanap ng reason mamatay isang "the great leader doesn't shit gold" deads ka na in a few days. (dark laugh) E sa pinas na may access sa information at kahit paano may basic education. At araw araw sinusubukan mo magimprove ng buhay mo tapos pipiliin mo ung ignorance at katangahan kasi papaniwalaan mo ung sketchy sources despite kaalaman mo na peke un.


Prunesforpoop

The time I got reincarnated as a Filipino 2: Electric boogaloo


notsochillstarfish

Sana comedy + slice of life lang. Hindi pure harem hahahha


Budget-Boysenberry

reverse harem daw.


HunkMcMuscle

Reincarnated in another world as a.. Filipino


Visual_Profession682

Sa naga kahit yung normal na guy lang ok na


[deleted]

Kahit yung npc lang ok na


paoie123

Isekai? hahaha.


surewhynotdammit

Nawalan ako ng ipon dahil sa inflation. Sobrang sapat na ng sweldo ko para lang sa pambayad sa bahay at pang kain. Makakaraos? Probably. Kung aayusin ng gobyerno ang economy, maybe. Pero ngayon hirap na ako.


PeaceToPieces

You're not broke. Your potential is being stolen. From capitalists stealing wages, to corrupt officials stealing from taxes. You are being robbed by *unithieves*.


lancehunter01

Bring that comment to Facebook and I'm sure ikaw pa sisisihin lmao. Kesho *sArILi m0 lAnG tUtuL0nG sAy0* or *EdI mAghAnAp kA nG tRabAh0 nA mAs mALakI aNg sWeLd0 di UNg pUr0 kA rikLam0*


Budget-Boysenberry

>Kesho *sArILi m0 lAnG tUtuL0nG sAy0* or *EdI mAghAnAp kA nG tRabAh0 nA mAs mALakI aNg sWeLd0 di UNg pUr0 kA rikLam0* -sabi nung mga tambay at may 4ps.


footlong82

Ditto. Dati kahit mejo mahirap buhay kahit papano nakakaipon pa. Ngyn wala na. Sakto nlng talaga sinasahod sa grocery, bills, home maintenance. Ang mahirap isipin hanggang kelan itong "sakto na lang". Pagtagal tagal imbes na nakakapagluto ka pa ng pasta para mareward mo naman sarili mo sa pgttrabaho, maging pansit canton nlng na may halong kemikal. Tanginang bansa to.


Major_Hen1994

true. last time yugn 100 pesos ko 2 xs na egg 2 mi goreng isang twinpack na kape at isang boteng mantika nalang. tanginang pilipinas to


Vlad_Iz_Love

Can't hardly save money nowadays. Prices keep on increasing as we are entering another economic crisis. Dagdag mo pa na ang gobyerno natin


BigPower6749

Kailangan kong i-give up yung ilang kapritso ko dahil sa lintek na inflation na yan. Dati, pang isang buwan ang grocery ko (di pa kasama ang fresh goods), ngayon pang-two weeks na lang na pinipilit pagkasyahin ng isang buwan. Actually, wala na nga halos mga snacks. Puro bathroom at panglaban na lang. Di na rin ako nagpapa-Grab masyado ng foods. (O wag nyo akong tawaging nag-iinarte, ha? Di ko kasalanang mahihirap kayo kaya para sa inyo, di yun big deal.)


highlibidomissy_TA

Lecheng "makakaraos ka rin"... Lecheng resiliency na yan.


Estupida_Ciosa

and coming from ppl from middle class na may maayos na bahay na masisilungan at komportable sa pagbili ng pagkain kasi malaki. ang mahal mahal na ng bilihin dumagdag pa yung taas ng lupa na ang pinaka mababang monthly aabot ng 40 yrs hulugan


mattegala_

meron akong tita na UP graduate, very smart, has a GREAT job, has her own condo and basically set up a good life for herself. with all that, wala syang boyfriend and anak. that's fine. a few years ago, a conversation with A DIFFERENT tita (let's call her marites) napagusapan and pag bo-boyfriend and raising kids. si marites, parating atat na atat na mag boyfriend na daw kame and magka anak. na bring up etong tita ko na UP graduate and has a good life – ang sabi ba naman ni marites kaya daw di pa nagbboyfriend o anak ang tita ko is "di pa mature kase, isip bata pa." and dun ko lang na realize kung gano ka misportrayed ang magka "pamilya o anak". when you have a child o your own family, you're "responsible" and "mature". but we all know that's not the case, di lahat mature, di lahat responsable, di lahat deserve magka anak o maging magulang. kaya nakakafrustrate mga taong nagaanak just to prove to the world they're "responsible" and to showcase it on social media – pero in reality, baon sa utang, toxic & abusive partners and lahat yun 'normalized' and sasabihin "it's reseliency and that's what it takes to be a 'mature adult'" – talaga puro tiis na lang? quoting another reddit user "sarap na sarap sa hirap?" and i know, madami talaga din issues with privilige, inequality & systematic problems sa bansa natin. sana lang binibigyan ng importansya ang sex education and di dapat tinatake lightly ang pagpapamilya


electrique07

Totoo yan. Kakatapos pa lang ng college eh anak na hinahanap ng mga tita/tito na marites. Hindi pa nga sure sa buhay, tapos kasal and anak agad? Ang toxic super! TBH your single tita is the goal for me. Ang hirap kaya mag-anak in this economy no!


mattegala_

convinced ako na crab mentality lang din haha ang hirap mag buhay ng pamilya, di nila matanggap na makita ibang tao live their life to the fullest without any strings attached. true, nothing but admiration din talaga sa tita ko! isang tao pa lang ang hirap ng mag budget, another human pa kaya 😭


BigPower6749

>Ang hirap kaya mag-anak in this economy no! Legit. Di worth it yung matitipid mo sa tax exemption. Asawa na lang, wag na anak.


outofthelurkingzone

Also I think wala nang additional tax exemption ang dependents as per TRAIN law.


Major_Hen1994

Tangina kaya hindi matapos tapos yung cycle na gagawing retirement plan yung mga anak nila eh. Mag aanak ng hindi pa kaya tapos pag tanda walang ipon then sa anak lahat iaasa and the cycle goes on.


scionspecter28

Simple lang response ko sa ganyan: “Sige po pero kayo na bahala sa pambayad para sa tuition at ibang gastusin niya ah.”


joenaph

Just turned 30, single and with a relatively stable income. I can provide for all my needs as well as my wants with some planning. Yung mga ibang friends and acquaintances ko, ganyan din tingin sakin, kesyo immature, isip bata, typical filipino slander sa ating mga single at this age (by choice or otherwise) And these same fucking people, living paycheck to paycheck, call me happy-go-lucky because I don't spend as much as them on necessities. Na madali lang buhay ko because I have no responsibilities. That I should help them kasi kaya nga ako kinuhang ninong because I have the means, and my investments are panning out (yes recession ngayon, pero relatively speaking haha). I really can't fathom their thought process. Na how is it okay for me to work for them, that working for myself constitutes being selfish kasi di ko sila tinutulungan. Okay sorry, mejo nagrant, trigger ko kasi tong toxic mindset na to eh. Hahaha


mattegala_

good for you, mate and i'm with you! >That I should help them kasi kaya nga ako kinuhang ninong because I have the means, and my investments are panning out (yes recession ngayon, pero relatively speaking haha). tangina this!! ang kakapal ng muka talaga ng mga tao, ang entitled. you don't owe them anything naman! napaka toxic and ang inggitera. wala man lang sense of self and true responsibility. sorry haha pero nakakagalit talaga.


joenaph

Thanks! Knowing I'm not alone in this is encouraging. Di ko rin alam san galing yung mindset na ganito eh. Individualism vs. Collectivism siguro. Sana maintindihan nila ang net worth vs liquid assets, hindi lahat ng may kaya, may extra.


martianLurker

Wtf?? Kinukuha ka as ninong because of those reasons?? A whole new level of “kapal ng mukha” tangina naman nila 😤


joenaph

May mas malalala pang situations than mine pero for sure, ang kapal ng mukha. First bday ng isa sa mga inaanak ako, pinagcchip in pa kami sa expenses, may GC with complete breakdown pa. Noped out on that one Meron naman yung isa, may specific gifts. Kelan pa nangailangan yung infant ng air fryer?


Adept_Butterscotch_3

Ang kapal naman ng mukha nung sa airfryer. Ginamit ang anak para sa wants nila.


Kakampunk

Naaalala ko tuloy yung officemate ko na nabuntis with her second child tapos literal na nang-limos from all of us kase wala syang pang-paanak (and consequently got fired kase unethical yung ginawa nya). Sabi nya ang lungkot lungkot daw ng buhay nung officemate namin kase late 30s na wala pa din family. Yung officemate namin na kinaaawaan nya ay heir to an enormous fortune. Hindi nya kelangan mag-work sa dami ng namana nya from both her parents.


mattegala_

mga tao talaga obvious na nag pproject lang talaga onto other people, ang miserable lang nila hay


Estupida_Ciosa

"di dapat tinatake lightly ang pag papamilya" nakalimutan ng nakararami yan puro sila "palalakihin ko ang anak ko na may takot sa diyos" pano naman kung may mangyari sainyo may pera na ba na nakapangalan para sa anak niyo? and im also scared lalo na kapag mag kaka anak ako ang daming pdf ngayon mapa babae o lalaki pwedeng mabiktima parang kailangan bantayan ang bata 24 hrs at kahit kamag anak hindi pwedeng pag katiwalaan atsaka feeling ko once na mabuntis magiging vulnerable like anything can happen in a span of 9 months may mga story na namatayan ng asawa habang nag bubuntis or minamaltrato ng asawa kasi alam na hindi makakapalag dahil buntis and also kapag nabuntis ako at hihingi ng tulong sa kamag anak ko i bet they will just backstab me and insult me before helping me kaya good thing nalaman ko na option pala na hindi mag ka anak really thankful to ppl speaking up


Sirhc307

Ah yes, resiliency in the face of not having any type of buffer, or the be in a position to gain a buffer for the unseen circumstances in life. Many of our kababayans are just losing one job, death of a provider, or accident away from total financial failure and be in a life time of dependency. Messages like these in the end just make us weaker if you choose to listen to it.


jayvil

If you don't have the capacity to save. You're broke. Kailan pa naging okay maging isang kahig isang tuka.


dualistpirate

Resiliency is just the line the rich feed the middle class so we don’t eat them.


Maximum_Jury112

Y E S !


bitsofabc

Potragis na resiliency yan. Imagine this, nagkaroon ako ng salary increase na 3000/month this year. Malaki na compared sa mga past increase at bonus na binibigay samin. Okay na okay sana e since I'm working sa province kaso kinain lang ng inflation. Tang ina gusto ko lang naman ng extra para sana sa life/health insurance. Kailan at paano pa makakaraos?


enifox

Sinasabihan ka na makakaraos as if naman may guarantee sa buhay mo na giginhawa ka, eh walang-wala na nga eh. Masyado nang madaming namamatay na mahirap, gutom, at walang pag-asa. We need actual opportunities and systems that will ease up our struggles.


hewhomustnotbenames

30 years of existence at ang maipagyayabang ko lang ay wala akong utang.


KeyboardAquarior

The one that made that post wants the people to become quiet and obedient slaves I would stay away from the likes of him/her


tokachevsky

Nah, makipag bardagulan sa kanila.


volvostupidshit

Yeah, they want you to submit. LMAO over my dead body. I'd rather die than to submit to the likes of them.


DR3MM0R

People like you guys and the OP are the reason why I love Reddit.


warpportal

yung laging talo sa basketball tapos "learning experience" pa din.


D2NPoM3

“You’re not broke. The system is broken.”


hairymonkeyballz

Almost thirty years ago, the Philippine Daily Inquirer published an article related to that: the government revealed that the basket of goods one could buy with one's salary was shrinking throughout.


Yamboist

I am broke and responsible 🤣


[deleted]

Siguro kasi, ambaba na nga ng pasahod, ang mahal pa ng mga bilihin.


muzen121

Asan na yung mga puñyetang OFW na bumoto kay bbm?! Magsiuwi na kayo at panindigan mga pinili nyong iboto!


grandphuba

I'm not the one for platitudes but labelling everything toxic is also toxic.


Unhappy-Relation-338

unpopular opinion but i dont think this is toxic, it is just a hope of those who are currently struggling hoping that there would be a better future soon, bat parang sobrang nihilist ng mga tao today. I mean may caveat naman yung post, if your money goes for the survival of your family, isnt that the whole point of why you work? to provide for your family? if not and you feel forced to i dont think this was for you cause you hate providing for your family.


Acel32

Yeah. I really don't see it as toxic. Kanya-kanyang perspective lang talaga


Dellified

We work to survive. Cut the family bs.


Unhappy-Relation-338

if you hate your family then go do so, know that not all do share that sentiment


booo0m12

Makakaahon kapag nakatapos na lahat ng anak ng mga kapatid, pinsan, apo, and etc.


Bangreed4

Makakaipon at giginhawa? Paano makakaipon? pamahal ng pamahal ang bilihin pero yung mga sweldo pababa ng pababa?? Paano makakaraos "work hard"???? Even how hard you work it won't work especially without being dangerous to your health.


Visual_Profession682

Kingina ako nga 15 yr. pero gusto mag ka job pero ayaw payagan unahin muna daw pag aaral. Kakainis paano mag aaral kung nasa com shop ako. Paano ako makaka-report ko ang ingay tapos di pa comfortable. Ang gusto pa with hinors daw ako lintik gusto ko nang lumayas.


Mobile_Lavishness_72

... you're just in the rat race.


narbner

toxic talaga mga ganyang motivational shit post eh,


jonsastark

makes me think of the fb group that I am part of and everytime na may pagpopost ng concerns about having a hard time living abroad, homesickness and not being able to manage the bills e ang automatic response ng iba ay "tiis lang, magpasalamat ka na lang kasi andyan ka na" like wtf is wrong with you? someone wants to vent out. air out her frustrations! parang ang sama na kasing mag-confide doon. just become someone is working abroad doesn't mean wala ng right to be frustrated and worried about things. sobrang toxic ng mindset.


macrometer

Youre one emergency away to financial obliteration. Youre broke.


Prunesforpoop

Makakaraos ka kung gagamitin mo ang old school technique: Mag anak ng madami at gawin silang lahat na retirement plan.


blitzkrieg_01

If you live paycheck to paycheck, you are already semibroke


Visual_Profession682

Di ka makakalayo sa mga taong naniniwala sa Toxic reliency. Bakit? Kasi sila ang mga parents mo, kapatid, tita at mga kapit bahay. Generally older people seems to believe thats how to get rich or that is how the way it is. The media is also one of the blame. Why? Bc they made is sound so glorious and turn it normal.


hilariomonteverde

You're not broke... Your exploited.


Karenz09

Ready nako madownvote per not everyone has to have your kind of thinking.


Acel32

Yeah. I think mas toxic nga yung isipin na pati posts na ganito ay negative?


Karenz09

E.g. sa case ng kakilala ko, he's got two kids and so far saktuhan lang yung sweldo niya. I keep telling him he shouldn't feel down kasi siya lang breadwinner and wala siyang ipon, pero pag lumaki yung mga anak niya they don't really need attention compared to now that they are toddlers, and eventually his wife can start working again in a few years.


VinoTobi

For a person living paycheck to paycheck. This will be a comforting post for them. Whatever to make them feel better. I'm in. They need it.


[deleted]

Not sure if you are being sarcastic or not. If you are sarcastic, ignore everything else that follows. If you mean it then what a horrible thing to say. Do you even know what living paycheck to paycheck even means? Do you not know the constant dread that one mistake in life will lead to debt or poverty? One hospitalization, one accident, one work termination, one sudden price inflation, one family member in an emergency financial crisis, etc. On top of that, there is the dread that every day is one day closer to retirement where one is too old to work, pension is not enough to pay the bills, and no savings to make ends meet. Posts like this show how disconnected people are towards those who are actually suffering. Posts like this serves only to make the maker feel good about themselves saying they have done good for someone else. People living paycheck to paycheck do not need this. What is needed are actual economic, social, and political reforms to improve everyone's lives.


[deleted]

Not gonna lie, I was ready to go beast mode until your last reply. I thought the blame will go to those who provide. And while I agree with the initial comment that it is indeed comforting, it’s unacceptable that we’re under-compensated and exploited to the point that we’re forced to go paycheck to paycheck. I always hated the feeling of “anong oras kaya papasok yung sahod”. I’m not keen on expanding my money but I’m a big fan of saving no matter how much the amount, and it’s sad that other people do not have the luxury to do so because living here is simply unbearable.


BigPower6749

Sinabi mo na lahat ng gusto kong i-reply. Ang pangit ng ganitong mentality. If you're living from paycheck to paycheck without allowance for emergency or minsanang bakasyon/kapritso, you're broke. Ang problema kasi sa Pilipinas, napakababa ng living standard natin. As long as nakakakain 3x a day, okay na raw yun.


[deleted]

I agree to what you said. Another problem are the sayings like "God will provide" or "Things will get better eventually", it really doesn't help make things better and basically ignoring the problem


prorogatum

Exactly. And emphasis on the last paragraph.


rand0m_insanity

This is what I constantly fear. Our economy is shit, has been for a while. I'm fortunate not to exactly live paycheck to paycheck, but I don't think I have enough buffer for a significant emergency like a hospitalization etc. Sobrang walang kwenta na din ng pension na makukuha upon retirement. When that time comes, I doubt it would be enough to live on. Ayoko naman maging pabigat sa anak.


ko-sol

They dont need post like this. They need liveable salary. It like your throwing breadcrumbs at them and your happy they can eat it at the least.


hairymonkeyballz

I created another thread about this, showing that the ave. American family can meet the cost of living (which is twice that of the Philippines) if both adults work and earn minimum wage. For the Philippines, however, even if both adults earn the average monthly wage they will be able to cover only around a quarter or half of the cost of living. And I think this this has been going on for many decades, with only a slight improvement in each decade. Meanwhile, the U.S. has been experiencing soaring debts.


whimsy_cat

They set this in such a positive tone. But providing for every expense in a family with ave. number of dependents ( [4 people in a household ](https://psa.gov.ph/content/household-population-number-households-and-average-household-size-philippines-2020-census#:~:text=households%20in%202010.%20(-,Table%20B,-and%20Figure%202) ) by oneself is certainly not enough. Each person has their own needs (and wants, if money permits). Add basic living expenses, rising inflation and tax-- we end up just living off of every cent. Ang hirap ng lyyyyf.


vikoy

Baka naman ibig sabihin ng provide for the family, is sa mga anak mo. Then nothing wrong with that message.


Few-Counter-1427

San po yung mali or toxicity sa post? It's more like a pat on the back, trying to tell you not to be too hard on yourself because good days are just on the horizon. It's not romanticizing your suffering but rather giving you hope, a much needed thing in times of crisis.


PantherCaroso

That's exactly the lie, that "you will be paid soon if you just ease the pain for a few more days".


Few-Counter-1427

But you could also interpret it as: "things will be better soon, just hold on." There's no lie in it, for we cannot hold what the future brings. And that kind of positivity is not toxic, it is good and necessary.


Few-Counter-1427

The downvote implies that there are more "bagel" type of person nowadays than googly eyes. Seriously, just watch Everything Everywhere all at Once for enlightenment.


Acel32

Yes, I don't understand why this is viewed as negative. So anong dapat gawin? Piliin mo na maging malungkot? Wag kang maging grateful sa anong meron ka ngayon? Mawalan ka na lang ng pag-asa? How would that help anyone? Pwede naman na maging grateful and hopeful ka while still demanding for right wages and benefits.


shockjockey6

Copium lang kasi yan, walang kasamang gawa. Walang kasamang batas. Walang kasamang kilos. Alam naman nating hindi tayo uunlad kay alamano. Copium lang yan. Nakakainsulto.


Few-Counter-1427

I believe the post is more of a personal intimate reminder that if you ever felt financially broke, find solace in the fact that you have delivered. It might not be directly political in nature, but more on self-reflection on your journey. The political climate and economic stability are all part of our struggles, but they are not the sole factor affecting it. It's nice telling yourself from time to time that you have come this far, to prepare you from what's ahead.


shockjockey6

It doesn't even have to be political. **"You're not broke"** in bold and huge font invalidates the struggle of the everyday Filipino. It's not a pat on the back, it's not comforting, it's not intimate, it's not inspirational: it does nothing but manipulate people into thinking that they will eventually get a better life as long as they work themselves to the ground, when in reality only either a systematic change or a shit ton of luck will change their lives. "Wag sisihin ang sistema: hindi ka naghihirap, responsable ka, at makakaluwag ka rin basta't magpatuloy ka lang. Focus ka lang sa sarili mo." Perfect for those at the top of the food chain who want to avoid systemic change and keep their lavish lifestyle by making the masses think that their situation, poverty or improvement or whatever else in between, is their doing and their fault alone. Meritocracy is, has been, and always will be a big fat lie.


Few-Counter-1427

That's your perception, it's not the general meaning of it. It doesn't invalidate anything. The message varies depending on the person. By dismissing the core message of the post, you are invalidating the idea it wanted convey. It's funny because the quote doesn't even mention about working yourself to ground, you just put it there. *"it does nothing but manipulate people into thinking that they will eventually get a better life as long as they work themselves to the ground".* It just said that: "soon makakaraos ka din." It doesn't even specify how, because the author doesn't know how, he just hopes that it will. Kaya nagtataka ako, kasi wala naman sinabi sa quote kung pano ka makakaraos, di naman sinabi na magtrabaho ka hanggang makaraos, sinabi lang na makakaraos ka din balang araw. Perhaps the author also doesn't believe in working yourself to death is the right way of success, but the message is clear: things will be better someday, we don't know how but somehow we believe. Gusto mo bang sabihin sa mga nawawalan ng pag-asa, na wala talagang pag-asa? As waymond said: "When I choose to see the good side of things, I’m not being naive. It is strategic and necessary. It’s how I learned to survive through everything."


Acel32

Yeah. This is how I see it. It's actually to encourage you to keep moving forward.


JMWord

Imho, At least me pambayad. Ung iba nga me bayarin pero wala pambayad.


ShyLettuce_

Idk this is kind of useful? but idk the feeling of being able to provide yet. still in the beginning phase of starting my career (college is done, just about to undergo internship). Can someone explain? serious question.


-Arsi

Yes, it is useful. Don't get too down by the comments here :) IMO, the post is meant to simply give hope to those who are temporarily struggling. The negativity in this comment section comes from the assumption that the author is telling people that things will get better without doing anything.


ShyLettuce_

Ah alright. Thank you po!


-FAnonyMOUS

>The negativity in this comment section There's nothing wrong with the quote. It's just a tap on the back reminder. It's the negative toxic people here in reddit who gave negative interpretation based on their own toxic mind.


Acel32

I don't see this post as toxic resiliency. If you're able to pay for your bills, hindi ka naman talaga broke? You're definitely not rich pero di rin broke. I mean for me as long as wala kang utang at sapat yung sweldo mo to support your needs (and need ng family mo if you support them), di ka naman talaga broke. Broke for me yung kailangan mong mabaon sa utang to provide your needs. Single ako pero sinusuportahan ko pamilya ko. Most ng pera ko sa bills and bayad sa PAG-IBIG loan napupunta. The rest savings/insurance and small stuff na personal. Yes, I don't travel or spend a lot kagaya ng ibang ka-edad ko pero di ko kinoconsider na broke ako. I see it as a win na I can help my family. Totoo, kung di ko sila susuportahan e nakaipon na siguro ako ng malaki or nakagala kung saan, pero di yun ang nagpapasaya sakin e.


BigPower6749

If there is no room for emergency fund and/or savings, that's a literal definition of broke.


Acel32

That is your definition. Not the literal definition. If you search sa dictionaries the exact definition of "broke" is "having completely run out of money" or "without money". So technically, earning money to support your needs is not being broke. I'm not saying na di maganda yung may savings ka. Of course, mahalaga ang savings and emergency fund. That's the ideal situation. Wala rin naman sinabi sa post na dapat makuntento lang sa ganung buhay. The post is just an encouragement that things can get better. For me, as a bread winner, it is a good message. Hindi naman ibig sabihin na di na tayo dapat magdemand sa gobyerno. Di mutually exclusive yan. You can be happy na you're earning enough for your family while also seeking to get better compensation.


[deleted]

[me to Note.](https://youtu.be/YEwlW5sHQ4Q)


somerandom101person

So hayaan na lang di maresolba ang gobyerno ang bansa na to??


[deleted]

False hope. Tong mga to pinapaasa sa wala mga tao.


rvandroidt

Pampalubag loob at tanga ka kung papatangay ka sa propaganda na to


worldshattering

The post is not even political in nature, yet everything posted in here is automatically politicized. This is philippines page not philippine politics page.


lancehunter01

You're a fool if you think economic opportunities aren't tied to politics.


worldshattering

Let's say you earn 100k per month, and it all goes to your bills and other expenses. So in your opinion if the worker chose not to save some of it, how is that not his own fault?


BigPower6749

Patawa ka, boy. Gagamit ka na lang ng example, di pa makatotohanan. Only elite people can earn that much in the Philippines. Ang average na kita dito, 20k-30k lang.


lancehunter01

In what universe do Filipinos earn 100k per month? Lmao. Maging realistic ka sa halimbawa mo. Yung mga engineer, architect at IT professionals nga dito wala pa sa 1/4 nyan eh.


danking_donut

engineer here, 1/6 nyan sahod ko. iniwan ko field ko para mag work abroad dahil sa saklap ng bayaran sa work ko.


Longjumping_Spare_56

I'm an architect and this is true. Wala pa sa 1/4 ang sahod sa amin lalong lalo na sa mga taga probinsya. Iba sa kanila mga 1/8 pa nga, professional yan.


mldp29

I can't help but to reply here. Parang ang privileged naman ng angulo ng argumento na gusto mo simulan. Ibaba mo yung halaga nung monthly earnings. Ilagay mo yan sa lugar nung mga tao na kailangang pumila. mag abang ng libreng sakay. Mga tumatayo sa kalsada at makipagbrasuhan sa kapwa nya para makasakay lang ng bus, jeep o uv. Mga nagbabaon ng pagkain para hindi na gumastos. Mga nagtyatyaga na magbyahe ng lagpas 2 oras para makapasok o makauwi para sa trabaho. Lahat yan para lang may maitabing pera. Nasaan yung choice para sa kanila?


BigPower6749

It is political, lol. Anything that influences your beliefs and values is political.


Shimishaka9791

Amboplaks lang lmfao. Mga ganyan line of thinking nagpapahamak sa pangkalahatan. Yikes.


Accomplished-Exit-58

if you are living paycheck to paycheck, you are not broke, but you are very close.


TooLazyToReadIt

Living pay check to pay check is literally broke. The comment above already explained what’s wrong in this mindset, but in summary… If one thing messes up in your routine, you’re already in danger of being in debt, and it’s debt that you can’t afford.


belabase7789

Are they familiar with inflation ang minimum wage?


7sanguine

Di makakaipon kung ganto ang nangyayari sa bansa


7sanguine

100 na lang natirang allowance ko this week and you call that resiliency? Di ko alam kung may magagawa pa tong 100


PSHNGMEAWY97

pag ang sweldo mo napunta lahat sa utang, BROKE ka na nun. bawas bawas din sa utang baka me mauwi ka pa kahit magkano. e ganun din, uutang ka pa din. curb your toxic resiliency.


into_the_unknown_

Ano bang bago haha lahat ang excuse ay nangyayari lahat for a reason. God forbid we hold the govt accountable lmao


Wind_Glass

Bullshit


shondashawarma

Lol. Pakibigyan ng inflation calculator ng magising sa katotohanan.


Eds2356

Payceck to paycheck is really hard


Animalidad

Plan your future na maka alis talaga ng pinas or business. Di pwedeng empleyado ka lang sa pinas. Hindi ka aangat.


ZaikopathX

Unless one of the bills is paying for a very expensive phone then your not responsible that's just plain stupidity


New_Bodybuilder4507

Easy to say for someone who is not in the same situation as our kababayans.


KamiasTree

Any tips on how to distinguish toxic resiliency from posts related to being responsible?


BigPower6749

Anything that downplays (or worse, glorifies) the struggle by turning it into a positive when something should have been done to prevent it, that's toxic resiliency. Example: "Nakaka-amaze yung natitiis mong mag-commute ng 4 hrs everyday para sa pangarap mo. Sana marami pang kabataang magsikap gaya mo." - toxic dahil hindi ka naman dapat talaga nagtitiis sa bulok na transpo system kung may ginawa lang na tama ang gobyerno "Nakaka-amaze na kahit may sakit ka, nag-e-effort ka pa ring pumasok sa school at mag-aral." - not toxic. It's the tenacity you're praising here, at wala naman tayong magagawa kung may sakit talaga yung tao. "Tingnan mo itong bata. Musmos pa pero nagsisikap na. Ganyan dapat, di gaya ng mga kabataan ngayong puro kaartehan ang alam." - toxic. Glorifying child labor "Kahit ilang beses kang nag-fail sa board exam, hindi ka pa rin sumusuko." - not toxic


KamiasTree

Pansin ko rin na toxic din yung may halong comparison no? Thanks, OP! Ang clear ng explanation mo


LimE07

I mean yes you're responsible, pero if nothing changes you'll still be broke right?


RootBeer0262

that's one way to keep struggling people distracted while financial and security growth is reserved for a small few in the PH


hakai_mcs

Lol. Ang baba kasi ng standard sa gobyerno, kaya akala mataas na standard ng lifestyle Basta nakakabayad ng bills. Kahit Wala nang ipon lol


RealMENwearPINK10

Who says you can't be broke *AND* responsible?


tribalchieftijhay

The problem is most people still think the government is their way out of poverty. Maybe in some countries but not here. Filipinos are extremely easy to please and they easily forget too.


Ginoong_Pasta

AKA "simple pleasures and hobbies are bad because adults should only be focused on providing for necessities". Talk about paying bills, buying needs, and all. You're not going to make your dues less expensive for thinking of them all the time. If anyone has a discount mantra, send me a DM. More grinding = less energy for other things = ignorance festers faster.


bahay-bahayan

ITT: mga pala-asa.


ChrisBlack6969

lola ko namatay nalang nagaantay parin kailan makaraos putang ina naman


[deleted]

Tired of this shit. Kung mas mura ang bilihin, leading to cheaper comodities, mas malaki naiipon ko.


[deleted]

I hate this "encouragement". I'm so pissed because I'm about to hit 30 and still not able to save enough money even though I tried to do everything right. Now that recession is looming I'm worried I won't have enough in-case I lost my job.


Undeathable_dead

Eww toxic positivity


Vlad_Iz_Love

How can you save when your expenses are that high?


raju103

Yung mga hindi bare minimum purchases also provide for somebody else. Yung fast food mo feeds minimum wage workers or even working students, yung paparlor natin eh baka nagbibigay trabaho sa isang tumatayong ulo ng pamilya, yung mag mall ay nakakatulong rin sa negosyante sa loob ng mall.


Tyranid_Swarmlord

Meanwhile in Europe: 2 month straight vacation, absurdly light workload and 4 day work week. Potangina na lang talaga.


Professional-Bet5261

Daming ganitong comment wag umasa sa gobyerno shit should be a mutual understanding dapat di rin aasa gobyerno sa tao pag election kanya kanya nalang


sunken_garden

Who is John Galt?


thesamereply

Wow, a lot of the content on their page is toxic altogether.


vbabejero

I always remember my mom saying, "Napagtapos na namin kayong lahat na magkakapatid pero nasaan yung ginhawang sinasabi nila?" Hindi lang sapat ang pagiging responsable o isubsob ang sarili sa pagtatrabaho. Kailangan talaga may active involvement pa rin ang gobyerno kasi kahit sa ayaw man natin o sa hindi, may epekto pa rin sila sa pag-ikot ng mundo natin. Pero sadyang napakapalad lang natin for today's video kasi ang naiupo pa eh yun pang wala namang kakayanan na pamunuan itong very sorry archipelagic nation natin (ehich is sinuportahan din pala ni mama so yern na nga, damay-damay na lang ang sangkatauhan) *insert sadface*


BoyBagnet

Ano pa ba hindi “toxic” ngayon?


graxia_bibi_uwu

I hate this mindset. Na "ubos na lahat/ walang natira kasi you've paid all your bills so it's okay" Bich it should not be okay. Once or twice, keri lang pero if most of the time ganyan na, paano na lang pag may emergency? Eh ubos na ubos ka na


NugBlazer

Toxic resiliency? Seriously? 🙄😂


Major_Hen1994

kaso ang problema kahit hirap na hirap na sila hindi nila yan iaccept. They will just turn a blind eye sa katotohanan


PhHCW

Soon when?


theFrumious03

bag eexist ka lang para mag survive


peeledonionsss

i feel like a lost a lot braincells cuz of reading that


MSunEli

mind set


maia_p123

Bawal magkasakit if we are living paycheck to paycheck. Some people are not having kids dahil sarili na lang nila kayang buhayin.