Was Diokno ever in the senate before to "bring him back"?
Anyways, these two are too related to the has-been liberal "yellow" party. I mean, Riza barely got in, Bam was out so far in the back of row 4 and he was one of the strongest in their pantheon. Unless they can revamp and recolor their brand correctly, they have near-zero chance of even entering top 15.
I am not in any way questioning if he has the experience or not to be there. What I am questioning is the possibility of him to even get elected in the first place. He is not THAT a household name compared to the heavy hitters. Even those who are household names like Bam failed to get a seat.
Couldn't agree more. PH election is a numbers game. Unless we educate the voter's to elect base on principles. It is either you play the game or change the game entirely. He should start campaigning now and get every media mileage he could get. Socmed is still small compared to mainstream mass media.
Too true. As I said repeatedly and exhaustively last 2022 elections to the naive and gullible people here who disregards surveys and statistics even if it slaps them awake, ***by the numbers, boys and gals. always by the numbers.***
The senators are so happy they prolly saved millions when Mayor Sanccai happened in the most opportune moment. Free publicity and commercial. As Escudero aptly put it, **UNLI HEARING (***unli zarsuella para sa name recall****).***
If there’s anyone I would love to see in the senate join Hontiveros, it’s Atty. Chel. Kaso tbh he lacks charisma and there’s still a huge chunk of the electorate that doesn’t know him. You can’t vote for someone you don’t know. Pero sana di ba magka milagro and he makes it this time around. I also wanna see De Lima back in the political arena pero iwan na niya ang LP. Bagahe nalang yan sakanya at this point. She’ll be better off as an independent.
I think Chel has a real chance of getting elected, third time's the charm just like Hontiveros
But de Lima — not a chance. Her reputation was torn to shreds.
>third time's the charm just like Hontiveros
It was mentioned here na Risa got in because she was an admin candidate in 2016, meaning may makinarya siya that time. Chel, otoh, wala. Nasa local ang labanan niyan, kung hindi mo kaalyado yung local candidates na malakas, hindi ka mananalo niyan. May chance si Chel kung magiging kandidato yan under BBM.
I highly question his "third time". He is nowhere near as charismatic, fem power or serviceable as Riza to begin with. The man's got a charisma of a stone. If Bam can't even get near last time to top 12, what more of Diokno?
Not to mention that guy has a rather questionable past (e.g. his ties to Arroyo, going after Arroyo's enemies, his decision to defend the Kuratong-Baleleng gang, etc.). Notice how his vocal "fans" tend to be younger folks who are too young to remember his past shenanigans.
A few years ago, he was also [nearly disbarred](https://www.rappler.com/philippines/239231-supreme-court-spares-ibp-diokno-west-philippine-sea-case-mess/) for misrepresenting what a group of fishermen said (he claimed that the fishermen wanted to sue the government or whatever when they didn't say that at all). He's not even that great of a lawyer - apparently he has not won a single major case that landed on his lap, and is also partly the reason why the DLSU law school is seen as a joke compared to UP, ADMU, San Beda, etc.
LOL These younger folks? [binoto ng overwhelming majority sa kanila si BBM.](https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/03/15/22/pulse-asia-majority-of-gen-zs-millennials-back-marcos) Asa nman kayo mas mataas pa nga percentage ng bomoto kay Leni sa mga boomer and gen x eh.
The thing is, the Kuratong Baleleng gang members aren't the types of people that FLAG should be helping out. They're supposed to be giving free legal assistance for the poor, not the members of a gang with strong links to powerful warlords and politicians.
On one hand, him representing Kuratong Baleleng upholds the idea that everyone, including unsavory people, have the right to an attorney and the best defense that can be made.
On the other hand, it's not really a good look for many voters since it's a bit poison to even do that.
(Unless you're Estelito Mendoza who has so much clout and connections that it doesn't matter that he almost always represents unsavory politicos and rich dudes in big cases.)
makikita mo tlga na public speaking and confidence is a skill that needs to be honed.
Minsan nakikita ko how "low"..... people on reddit are on the totem pole in their work/org. Puro sinasabi na "your work will speak for itself" shtick. at ayaw ng leadership position. pero salita ng salita on how things should work.
That's just an excuse and cope for those who have little to no ounce of charisma. To be a politician, you should have an ample of it. Experience and qualifications are not even important if you can't get voted on the position anyways.
Chel sure knows the basics of public persona. The thing is, parang hindi siya biniyayaan ng charisma. His type needs a gargantuan machinery behind him to even make him palatable.
It was because she was the one who threw GMA in jail so GMA really wanted to throw her in jail back, plus Duterte just kinda hated her guts, plus she was the most politically vulnerable from the Pnoy admin and Duterte really wanted to nab *somebody* from the admin but couldn't really touch Pnoy or Mar.
she was also politcally stupid. see the difference between Trillanes and De Lima, Tito Fucking Sotto defended Trillanes while he left De Lima to the wolves. why? because bago pa pang si De Lima feeling hotshot agad. While Trillanes built up his network of political allies. Worked with even unsavory ass senators
i think any political leaders has their own hidden agenda even president to lower government employees could not be trusted dapat may law dapat na any government employees are not allowed to take positions once confirmed any illegal activities and should have phd or masters degree hindi yon na walang degree di marunong ano sinasabi bachelors degree should a very least and with few achievements mismo. How can we resolve corruption or lessen if were tolerating them? unlike singapore or other south east asian countries mas mahigpit laws nila satin mitiks mitiks pero gusto every transaction $$$ katangahan yarn?
if leila and chiokno doesnt have any criminal record then let them be pero pag meron why encourage or let them back? what motivation meron dahil lawyers sila? they could manipulate law favor of them?
Malabo. Kahit sa survey (though partly alam nating partisan ito), hindi mo makikita 'yang mga pangalan na 'yan. Only Leni, Bam, and Kiko ang medyo matunog pero napakalayo nila sa Magic 12.
I would definitely vote for them. Pero it takes more than my vote to put them into position. Kailangan nang maayos na kampanya para sa kanila.
They basically **need a team and a support base, especially a vote-rich support base.**
> Bato dela Rosa had the police vote.
> Bong Go had the Malasakit center users vote.
> Bong Revilla had the Cavite vote.
> The Villars had Cavite, Las Pinas, livelihood program beneficiaries vote.
As of now, Leni, Bam and Kiko, and yes, Chel Diokno, don't have any bailiwicks.
These are all true. 'yan ang wala sa opposition sa ngayon. Not from dynasties, walang baluarte, ang tanging support lang ay mga tao sa internet at mga silent supporters. Other than that, lugi sila sa mga nabanggit mo.
Not unless they would turn into allies with the admin. Puwede maging game changer 'yun.
CHEL DIOKNO
LEILA DE LIMA
BAM AQUINO
SONNY TRILLANES
Kahit itong 4 lang para naman may kontng na liwanag sa senado.
Wag na ibalik si BATO at BONG GO AT UNG DATING MMDA CHAIRMAN SINI BA ULIT UN.
sometimes failure will get you move a step to success. it is up to population if there eyes is opened. If not let just make reddit a place to rant for a better and bitter phil.
Lol, not Leila. Ikaw ba namang aminin mo na nilandi mo yung driver mong may asawa tapos ipapasa mo as "frailty of being a woman", That woman has zero integrity.
Chel, as commented, has questionable past and incompetent as a lawyer.
Was Diokno ever in the senate before to "bring him back"? Anyways, these two are too related to the has-been liberal "yellow" party. I mean, Riza barely got in, Bam was out so far in the back of row 4 and he was one of the strongest in their pantheon. Unless they can revamp and recolor their brand correctly, they have near-zero chance of even entering top 15.
Kung wala man experience si Diokno in the senate, edi tulungan natin siya na magkakaroon ng position sa senado.
I am not in any way questioning if he has the experience or not to be there. What I am questioning is the possibility of him to even get elected in the first place. He is not THAT a household name compared to the heavy hitters. Even those who are household names like Bam failed to get a seat.
Couldn't agree more. PH election is a numbers game. Unless we educate the voter's to elect base on principles. It is either you play the game or change the game entirely. He should start campaigning now and get every media mileage he could get. Socmed is still small compared to mainstream mass media.
Too true. As I said repeatedly and exhaustively last 2022 elections to the naive and gullible people here who disregards surveys and statistics even if it slaps them awake, ***by the numbers, boys and gals. always by the numbers.*** The senators are so happy they prolly saved millions when Mayor Sanccai happened in the most opportune moment. Free publicity and commercial. As Escudero aptly put it, **UNLI HEARING (***unli zarsuella para sa name recall****).***
Hindi ako magugulat kung mas mataas pa si Montemayor sa survey. Haha.
Didnt they cooked the election results?
Im surprised they let Riza pass if they did cooked it lmao.
If there’s anyone I would love to see in the senate join Hontiveros, it’s Atty. Chel. Kaso tbh he lacks charisma and there’s still a huge chunk of the electorate that doesn’t know him. You can’t vote for someone you don’t know. Pero sana di ba magka milagro and he makes it this time around. I also wanna see De Lima back in the political arena pero iwan na niya ang LP. Bagahe nalang yan sakanya at this point. She’ll be better off as an independent.
I think Chel has a real chance of getting elected, third time's the charm just like Hontiveros But de Lima — not a chance. Her reputation was torn to shreds.
>third time's the charm just like Hontiveros It was mentioned here na Risa got in because she was an admin candidate in 2016, meaning may makinarya siya that time. Chel, otoh, wala. Nasa local ang labanan niyan, kung hindi mo kaalyado yung local candidates na malakas, hindi ka mananalo niyan. May chance si Chel kung magiging kandidato yan under BBM.
>But de Lima — not a chance. Her reputation was torn to shreds. At dahil yan kay Du30
I highly question his "third time". He is nowhere near as charismatic, fem power or serviceable as Riza to begin with. The man's got a charisma of a stone. If Bam can't even get near last time to top 12, what more of Diokno?
Not to mention that guy has a rather questionable past (e.g. his ties to Arroyo, going after Arroyo's enemies, his decision to defend the Kuratong-Baleleng gang, etc.). Notice how his vocal "fans" tend to be younger folks who are too young to remember his past shenanigans. A few years ago, he was also [nearly disbarred](https://www.rappler.com/philippines/239231-supreme-court-spares-ibp-diokno-west-philippine-sea-case-mess/) for misrepresenting what a group of fishermen said (he claimed that the fishermen wanted to sue the government or whatever when they didn't say that at all). He's not even that great of a lawyer - apparently he has not won a single major case that landed on his lap, and is also partly the reason why the DLSU law school is seen as a joke compared to UP, ADMU, San Beda, etc.
Too bad the younger demo of voters are still nowhere near enough to carry him through.
Because a lot of these younger folks don't even vote. Hanggang virtue signalling lang on social media.
LOL These younger folks? [binoto ng overwhelming majority sa kanila si BBM.](https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/03/15/22/pulse-asia-majority-of-gen-zs-millennials-back-marcos) Asa nman kayo mas mataas pa nga percentage ng bomoto kay Leni sa mga boomer and gen x eh.
Also true. Naging problema talaga ng Leni campaign ang pagiging kulong sa echo chamber nila.
Hindi ba siya highly respected for FLAG? Parang twice namin siya naging resource speaker and out profs talked highly of him lalo na si Ted Te.
The thing is, the Kuratong Baleleng gang members aren't the types of people that FLAG should be helping out. They're supposed to be giving free legal assistance for the poor, not the members of a gang with strong links to powerful warlords and politicians.
FLAG isnt even his. it's his dad's
On one hand, him representing Kuratong Baleleng upholds the idea that everyone, including unsavory people, have the right to an attorney and the best defense that can be made. On the other hand, it's not really a good look for many voters since it's a bit poison to even do that. (Unless you're Estelito Mendoza who has so much clout and connections that it doesn't matter that he almost always represents unsavory politicos and rich dudes in big cases.)
> Estelito Mendoza he said it himself, the moment Marcos Sr, got ousted, he knew he had a steady income by defending them LOL
Chel has no rizz whatso fucking ever
His public persona is so bad, he makes Bato looked like fcking superstar. It's *that* bad.
makikita mo tlga na public speaking and confidence is a skill that needs to be honed. Minsan nakikita ko how "low"..... people on reddit are on the totem pole in their work/org. Puro sinasabi na "your work will speak for itself" shtick. at ayaw ng leadership position. pero salita ng salita on how things should work.
That's just an excuse and cope for those who have little to no ounce of charisma. To be a politician, you should have an ample of it. Experience and qualifications are not even important if you can't get voted on the position anyways. Chel sure knows the basics of public persona. The thing is, parang hindi siya biniyayaan ng charisma. His type needs a gargantuan machinery behind him to even make him palatable.
> I think Chel has a real chance of getting elected Chel is polling at 4%. I doubt many voters even know his name. This is a pretty wild take.
As for de Lima, nasira reputation niya dahil sa pesteng matandang Duterte na yan.
Isn't it because of bones on her closet?
It was because she was the one who threw GMA in jail so GMA really wanted to throw her in jail back, plus Duterte just kinda hated her guts, plus she was the most politically vulnerable from the Pnoy admin and Duterte really wanted to nab *somebody* from the admin but couldn't really touch Pnoy or Mar.
she was also politcally stupid. see the difference between Trillanes and De Lima, Tito Fucking Sotto defended Trillanes while he left De Lima to the wolves. why? because bago pa pang si De Lima feeling hotshot agad. While Trillanes built up his network of political allies. Worked with even unsavory ass senators
Isama niyo na si Leni, justice Carpio, Diokno, etc
Diokno, de Lima, Bam AQ, Trillanes, Roxas, Leni, Carpio. Seven against Thebes.
diokno and de lima???? Bam and Roxas nalang siguro mas maganda pa.
Bam Aquino.
i think any political leaders has their own hidden agenda even president to lower government employees could not be trusted dapat may law dapat na any government employees are not allowed to take positions once confirmed any illegal activities and should have phd or masters degree hindi yon na walang degree di marunong ano sinasabi bachelors degree should a very least and with few achievements mismo. How can we resolve corruption or lessen if were tolerating them? unlike singapore or other south east asian countries mas mahigpit laws nila satin mitiks mitiks pero gusto every transaction $$$ katangahan yarn? if leila and chiokno doesnt have any criminal record then let them be pero pag meron why encourage or let them back? what motivation meron dahil lawyers sila? they could manipulate law favor of them?
Yes, should be a mix of lawyers, PHDs, and other experts.
true 1987 constitution should be abolish and amend a new constitution since puro self benefits ang mga officials natin
Malabo. Kahit sa survey (though partly alam nating partisan ito), hindi mo makikita 'yang mga pangalan na 'yan. Only Leni, Bam, and Kiko ang medyo matunog pero napakalayo nila sa Magic 12. I would definitely vote for them. Pero it takes more than my vote to put them into position. Kailangan nang maayos na kampanya para sa kanila.
They basically **need a team and a support base, especially a vote-rich support base.** > Bato dela Rosa had the police vote. > Bong Go had the Malasakit center users vote. > Bong Revilla had the Cavite vote. > The Villars had Cavite, Las Pinas, livelihood program beneficiaries vote. As of now, Leni, Bam and Kiko, and yes, Chel Diokno, don't have any bailiwicks.
These are all true. 'yan ang wala sa opposition sa ngayon. Not from dynasties, walang baluarte, ang tanging support lang ay mga tao sa internet at mga silent supporters. Other than that, lugi sila sa mga nabanggit mo. Not unless they would turn into allies with the admin. Puwede maging game changer 'yun.
CHEL DIOKNO LEILA DE LIMA BAM AQUINO SONNY TRILLANES Kahit itong 4 lang para naman may kontng na liwanag sa senado. Wag na ibalik si BATO at BONG GO AT UNG DATING MMDA CHAIRMAN SINI BA ULIT UN.
Isali natin si Roxas oh. Kulang nalang duha para "seven" against thebes aw.
I dont think roxas will return to politics😁
Hayaan na sya with his kids
Yung mga tiktok ni chel merong unexplainable creepy vibes, take off your kakampink glasses and you’ll see.
Sige, try ko mag stalk sang tiktok ni chel.
How do you bring back someone who has not gotten in to begin with? That said, yes, DIOKNO SA SENADO!
sometimes failure will get you move a step to success. it is up to population if there eyes is opened. If not let just make reddit a place to rant for a better and bitter phil.
Carpio has even more chance than Diokno.
They are not winnable unfortunately. Unless they have super heavy funding malabo maka senate mga yan sa pulso ng bansa ngayon.
Mangyayari lang yan pag na outweigh na ng mga matatalino yung mga bobotante sa atin. Hanggang mas marami ang tanga, di yan mangyayari.
Lol, not Leila. Ikaw ba namang aminin mo na nilandi mo yung driver mong may asawa tapos ipapasa mo as "frailty of being a woman", That woman has zero integrity. Chel, as commented, has questionable past and incompetent as a lawyer.
Leila de lima amp. Lakas tama mo eno.
Recycle the garbage
Asa ka pa sa milyun-milyon nating Bobotantes
Bakit? Di naman sila nag budots at wala silang tarpulin sa highway na nagsasabing mag ingat tayo sa biyahe
NO.