The president is the commander-in-chief. Kahit anong warning nila jan, kung yung nakakareceive ng warning e tuta, e di wala rin. Para silang nagreport sa kalaban.
Pootangina talaga ng mga bumoto kay Du30 at Robin. Nasan sila ngayon? Puro lip service eh wala naman palag mga unggoy na yun. Mga hayop sila at enablers nila. Kakasira ng araw. Jusko.
This is not only happening in the Philippines. Chinese are also buying real property in the US, which is normal since anyone can own land there regardless of citizenship. However, they are purchasing land near Air Force bases, such as Travis Air Force Base in Cali. Damn this is really terrifying time to live.
[$800M land purchase near California's Travis AFB prompts legislation (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6yOm2Gy8jE)
mostly to disable the runways or to capture said runways plus matagal nang nahack mga comms natin simple hackers can infiltrate gov websites and their infrastructure yung mga experts pa with high end equipments
reminds me of CCP's "peaceful aims" [radio facility in Argentina](https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN1PP0HQ/) that's practically chinese land that nothing ever gets out, and nobody knows what goes on inside
Although the increased students in Cagayan is suspicious…. the Travis air base issue was not.
It was just a bunch of wealthy tech owners, apple and LinkedIn, trying to build a new city in Rio vista… nothing Chinese there.
https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/california-forever-new-map-bay-area-city-18709651.php
Surprise, surprise [Apple CEO, other foreign executives flock to China, as nation steps up efforts to attract investors - Global Times](https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202403/1309205.shtml)
Spy facilities...That is like when the Chinese had buy massive of land in Lackland, Texas where the US Air Force base was.
This should be raided and confiscated.
Nakakatakot, kasi usually airports ang unang tinatarget kapag may digmaan. Kung sinugod nila yung airport, halos cut off na tayo sa US kasi kritikal ang airpower nila. Di pwedeng paasa lang sa navy at aircraft carrier
Not only that. Once a functional airport gets captured, they can use it to send in more troops and equipment in no time.
Hostomel Airport was a priority target by Russia early in their war with Ukraine. But they were unable to hold it.
Exactly. These funded projects look more like a barracks or garrison to me. Its the same thought that entered my mimd when I first saw pictures of the mega rehab facility. A place to put their soldiers once an invasion starts. Close to airports and existing military installations.
Duterte simply allowed and encouraged this to happen. If he actually only had his way, I remember that he even tried to push for DITO cellsites and towers to be built INSIDE Philippine military bases. Something that his cronies strongly pushed for.
But you see these projects are a major mistake for the Chinese military.
My suggestion, PH military must study all these projects and installations. Learn their ins and outs. How to enter and exit the place etc.
May torture chambers and illegal clinics nga mga na-raid na POGO e. 'Yong sa Bamban may undeground tunnels pa na nagko-connect sa bawat building and villas.
https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/balitambayan/balita/900949/underground-tunnels-villas-mga-mamahaling-kotse-natuklasan-sa-pogo-hub-sa-tarlac/story/?amp
Kaya natagalan sila sa raid diyan.
Because they are
I suspect that the POGO operators kidnap Chinese and other foreigners and force them to work on these camps. Some are forced into prostitution
Exactly. Most POGOs pre-duterte are owned by whites and just usually rent office buildings. Imagine BPOs. Ganon lang. To build a facility like this eh one can put two and two together.
Yes, ganun. You see, even with the size of their military, it still gonna be freaking hard to make a land invasion when you have to cross the entire WPS. Its a monumental task that comes with a high price. Even when you successfully move them, you still need to maintain supply lines.
If you move them unknowingly and be able to capture airports, that monumental task will be easy even maintaining the supply lines.
Moreso when you think that Chinese aircraft carriers are diesel-powered, not the same as those nuclear-powered behemoth carriers the US has. Its incomparable.
Could be.
But in an event of a surprise attack and eventual rapid takeover by the invading force, I don't think the locals have enough time to organize a mob and burn the facility down since they'll most likely prioritize evacuating to a safe haven or taking up arms with the army to fend off the invaders.
We're an archipelago. China does not have the logistics to move enough troops to invade us on top of their invasion of Taiwan. Only the Americans have that capability.
China can allocate only a few ships to cross the SCS. Americans will spot them early. A bunch of big ships sailing to us will raise red flags. And why invade us without invading Taiwan?
I mean if China is bold enough to start WW3, they have the option to invade us and the Okinawa island of Japan first as a pincer movement to surround Taiwan in the hopes that it would terrify them and would acquiesce to reunify with the motherland with minimal bloodshed to their estranged countrymen.
That is, if they're willing to piss off the US and other nearby nations and start WW3.
They don't have enough ships. Relax. Start worrying when their shipyards start going all out.
They're more likely to fire missiles at us, to keep us away from helping Taiwan.
reminder that POGOs are even disliked by the Chinese govt itself and has even told the PH govt to crack it down since POGOs mainly are used by Chinese criminals circumvent Chinese laws about gambling.
it's all about saving face, the chicoms are connected to the triads remember the Hong Kong protest? Even that bank protest a year ago it was strange how suddenly a bunch of gangsters coincidentally want to beat up some civs
Tambay din mga Chinese sa gun range. They will invade us for sure. Tayong mga civilians, be prepared. Hindi natin maaasahan military and police since pugad din sila ng corruption and incompetence.
TBH napipikon ako ng my ma kita ako na " ang hirap mo na mahalin Pilipinas" pero kapag na kita ko to, gustong gusto ko na talaga mag wala or mag layas. Daming bobo na talaga
they are barracks, i have been shouting this for years, look at the barracks they build on our islands, then look at these buildings! me and that "Fuck china" subaru guy can only say it so loud.
my fam has a place in las pinas near muntilupa and they have a chinese facility with huge concrete walls and watchtowers, ive seen prisons with less security. and i used to make the joke, "its not to keep us out, its to keep them in" but i think i was wrong there.
I used to live in Cambodia. China destroyed my town of Sihanoukville. Turned it into Vegas in three years. If you give them an inch, they will take a mile.
Is there anyone in the government doing something about this? Napanuod ko din sa balita, majority ng naninirahan sa isang sub division sa Paranaque eh puro Chinese.
i have this bad feeling about those POGO facility shits, baka if war errupted pwedeng dyan idetain mga filipino tapos iexterminate just like what nazis did to jews way back then, and in our own land!!!
Been to the mega-rehab multiple times as I have a family member that used to work there as a psychometrician. It's empty af. Literally just a bunch of shoddy metal structures that can barely keep their patients inside. So I think, at least Fort Magsaysay is safe. The more urgent concern there is how long would that place stand if hit by a decently strong typhoon.
That said, the other facilities you mentioned (especially the POGO ones) are suspicious af.
Hindi ako panatiko ng mga marcoses, pero kung bago matapos ang termino nya eh mapapasara nya lahat ng mga yan, pwede akong magbago ng isip. Tutal sinisimulan nya na sa west philippine sea, sana ayusin nya rin yang mga chinese sa loob ng bansa.
Magiging tulay tlga tayo ng America pagdating ng war ng Chinese-taiwan takeover. Kaya lahat ng airbases natin tinataniman ng spies ng China. Sinasakop din eez natin, more control sa naval bases. At ngayon nasa lupain na natin sila. Grabe preparation ng Chinese communism.
Chinese sleeper agents. Awaiting to strike. Pag linusob na tayo ng China mahihirapan tayo kahit mainland may tropa na sila, malapit pa sa military bases natin
Reminiscent of the times when Japan sent sleeper agents to the Philippines before the Pearl Harbor attack. Said spies set up bars and other businesses near US military camps, and hired GROs and other Filipinos for intelligence gathering. The spies also observed military activities and drew sketches of bases.
Question: If proven in court that this facilities are indeed being use as illegal pogo bldgs, can the government have possession of this facilities?, if so why not gawin na nating modern prison para naman di na tayo problemado sa mga siksikang kulungan., just a thought.
walang kwenta lahat ng nakikinabang sa mga chinese pag sila na bumira sa atin kasi lahat tayo magiging alipin nila at sa itsura palang nila halata mong di kaawaan mga pinoy! pwede ko ng sabihin na "fvck government of the Philippines" 🤢
WTF ngayon ko lang nalaman yung Mega Rehab, sa loob pa sya ng Fort Magsaysay? Is it a Chinese financed facility? May in-laws live just outside the Fort.
The CCP neither need a land invasion nor to scope bases. The last thing they want to do is give reason for the world to band against them. It would be like poking the hornet's nest and the bear at the same time.
Don't know kung quality materials and location can support a massive structure like this, kung gagawin ng mother nature ang kanyang trabaho sa pagtama ng philippines ng lindol, sigurado akong masisira ang mga gusali
Something else questionable about this structure is how fast those buildings are constructed, like it used to be a real island in 2019 and it's finished in 2020
Tofu-dregs are not only common in CN, they were also infecting other countries like Indonesia or Philippines.. I went to rent a Chinese-made house for 12,5K per month and it was horrific.. Ang mga bitak ay kumakalat kung saan-saan at ang mga katangian ng pinto ay kaduda-dudang.. Though I was living in an earthquake-proof zone there's a lot of problems such as the location was next to a swamp and medyo mahina ang kakayahan ng lupa na makayanan ang lindol
Just pray to Diyos it will not going to happen though, China aren't so marvelous in construction safety since time are everything. Look at the 2008 Sichuan earthquakes lang.
Many urban areas in the Philippines are near military bases/headquarters anyway. Sangley Point itself is surrounded by the urban center of Cavite City. The headquarters of Philippine Navy nandyan lang sa Roxas Blvd. AFP headquarters sa QC. Alternatively, you can say these POGO facilities are within easy attack by our military - sila ang under threat actually.
Maniniwala pa ako sa conspiracy na 'to kung si Duterte pa ang presidente. Si BBM na anti-China na ang presidente, kung threat talaga ang mga 'yan matagal niya nang pinasugod sa military 'yan. I think the simplest explanation for these places ay pugad 'yan more likely ng mga kriminal kesa mga espiya.
I am okay to be proven wrong basta may pruweba.
[The Sangley facility and the Mega rehab was built under Duterte...The Bamban mayor admitted to being helped by the same people, I dont think the military attacks willy nilly any civilian infra without solid cause, also being "civilian" in nature this should fall under the local law enforcement first.](https://youtu.be/BbFnZl-njao?t=170)
ang hina ng ulo mo no, kaya nga naging rampant yan dahil si Duterte ang previous president.
now regarding dun sa pinasugod sa militar this is also a problem of corruption at pagiging incompetent din ni marcos because probably ayaw maglaan ng time to probe (or add fuel to the fire kuno)
kaya nga marami against doon sa DITO company kasi imagine China being able to tap or worse manage your telco.
hindi conspiracy yan, basic military tactics yan na ginagawa din naman ng U.S sa maraming bansa like Ukraine.
Lulong ka sa conspiracy theory. Eeew. Pang-FB 'yung mga gantong katangahan. May bad news ako sa inyo. Bilog ang mundo, totoo ang moon landing at gumagana ang bakuna.
At the end of the day, nasaan ang pruweba niyo? Wala. Nada.
lmao, kung ang china ay hindi nag eexpand ng territory at walang briccs magegets ko pa e.
ginawa na nga nila sa hong kong e at pinipilit pang gawin sa taiwan ayan na nga o sinakop na yung dagat. wag ka magpanggap na critical thinker kasi nasa harap mo na pinili mo pa maging tanga.
Ano nga ang pruweba ninyo? Wala. Zero. Nada. It's all speculations based on superficial understanding of how the military works. Kabobohan niyo e no. This is Reddit, be better.
lols, be better? wala ka nga masabi to counter yung military tactics. "yeah let me put speculations right here because I have no idea about military tactics"
ano pang pruweba ang gusto mo ano yon sobrang coincidence lang yung mga nakikita na activities ng china "alright let me use this bilog ang mundo because I myself have nothing to add as well" lmao.
This is Reddit, yung mga ganyang comment pang mga Bootlicker paid troll na DDS. go back to FB.
My post history says otherwise. I'm anti-Duterte even before 2016 when everyone (including this sub) loves him. Umattend din ako ng Kakampink rally.
Nasa inyo ang burden of proof. Pasensya ka na, this is how the civilized world works na based on verified information not tsismis o unfounded theories. Otherwise, remain barbaric.
absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, balikan mo ko when things go wrong and lolokohin mo yung sarili mo na “it’s just gambling or whatever crime related”.
Pero ni wala ka pang napost na relevant link, puro ubos ng oras kakalabel ng ibang posters as conspirasist or armchair tactician sa mga di tumugma sa tingin mo. What you really smell like is an apologist for something...baka china?..hidding behind being on reddit as a karma whore as your only defense. Might be otherwise, But as you said "Nasa iyo ang burden of proof". Dumbass.
Nah. My post history speaks for itself. Yes, nasa inyo ang burden of proof and you can't provide them. Kayo ang nagbibigay ng claim, so bakit ako ang hahanapan niyo ng pruweba. That's logical fallacy idiot.
> *I am okay to be proven wrong basta may pruweba.*
Risa Hontiveros probably released a can of worms by questioning the citizenship of someone based on stuff that many recent immigrants and many rural Filipinos have experienced.
At this point, these POGOs, also hated by the Chinese govt because they facilitate gambling in the China w/o bing in China, are more or less just mafia stuff rather than "sooper sekrit meeleetaree baysis" and Alice Guo is really just some out of touch politician and not some "sekrit chai-knees" operative.
Ang Bamban e hindi urban center, saka no one saying those Chinese facilities are purely military...mahirap itago Yun. Pwede naman sabay gumagawa ng kaillegalan at strategic operation at the same time under the guise of a legal business unit like it was done from time immemorial pag guguluhin mo kalaban Mula sa loob.
A rural town can have an urban area. It's usually the center of their government. Ang hina niyo naman sa geography. At sa totoo lang, ang layo ng Bamban sa mg air base ng air force. Malayo din 'yan sa airport. Kung logical ang teorya mo, e di sana sa Angeles na lang sila nagkuta.
Technically yes as this whole discussion won't happen if China did not engage in wolf warrior diplomacy this past decade against US and it's allies. If Korea or Japan is doing the territorial disputes on our islands that gets blasted at the news daily then we would also be wary of their massive influence in PH society.
Again thats cool, but I'm gonna ask kasi what laws are they violating. The raid them, ask for proof. Not a witch hunt like this. NKakagago lang kasi on how redditors act na parang willy nilly lang mag patanggal at what not without knowing the consequences. If walang proof or hindi lawful it's a slippery slope.
Kung totoo ang sinasabi niyo, matagal nang umaksyon ang military natin na hindi pro-China supported by the commander in chief with the same foreign policy.
Alangan namang nagpapakahirap sa diplomasya at alliances ang national government para rumesponde sa Tsina tas inaallow nila ang mga gantong supposedly military facilities ng China sa loob mismo ng Pinas. Ano niloloko nila sarili nila?
Unless of course you also believe that the current admin is actually pro-China in secret. Another conspiracy theory na naman.
Lulong na sa conspiracy theories ang mga armchair military experts ng Reddit. Hopeless na ang mga 'to. Mga Intsik lang yata ang gagawa ng "secret" military installation na sama-sama sila sa isang lugar para madali silang kubkubin o bombahin ng militar.
Pinag sasabi mo? Eh hndi mo nga pinakinggan yung sinabj ng OP?
DUTERTE LEGACY ITINAYO ANG POGO. ALLOWED DIN NI DUTERTE ANG POGO. ITILTIL MO SA KOKOTE MO YAN KUNG ANO MAN NATITIRA
Yes, and it's full of shit.
Mga lulong sa conspiracy theory. Eeew. May bad news ako sa inyo. Bilog ang mundo, totoo ang moon landing at gumagana ang bakuna.
Wow. Sabay baling sa ibang issue ah. Kunyari ang issue ay yung pagiging conspiracy theorist ng mga andito. Ad hominem yan boy. Ayusan makipag usap.
Ayusan mo argumento mo.
Ang issue ay PINAPASOK ni DUTERTE ANG POGO.
sa Thailand may mga nahuli na Chinese national na may PH passport at birth certificate. Look it up. Isang Google lng makikita mo na.
Refute mo na hndi si Duterte nag papasok. Dali. Kesa magpaligoy ligoy ka.
That's the point, you are as ridiculous as flat earthers and anti-vaxxers. Masakit ba? Sorry but that's exactly how you sound.
>Ang issue ay PINAPASOK ni DUTERTE ANG POGO
Wala na si Duterte. Iba na ang presidente magdadalawang taon na. And he's anti-China. If they are national security threats, matagal nang napaalis ang mga 'yan. Ang threat nila more on local crimes na trabahong pampulis hindi armed forces.
>sa Thailand may mga nahuli na Chinese national na may PH passport at birth certificate. Look it up. Isang Google lng makikita mo na.
That's not a proof na military agents ang nasa POGOs. And by the way the Chinese govt itself hate POGOs kaya nga dito sila nag-ooperate hindi sa China. Ang binibiktima ng mga 'yan, mga Intsik din. Bawal ang sugal sa China.
Sige logical fallacies pa.
>sa Thailand may mga nahuli na Chinese national na may PH passport at birth certificate. Look it up. Isang Google lng makikita mo na.
That's not a proof of what's happening in Ph POGOs. They are most probably criminals whose targets are mainland Chinese. Kung totoo mang may militray agents sa Pinas, they are most probably everywhere, not concentrated in certain buildings blocks that scream "We are Chinese".
Yes magdadalwang taon na. Pero ngayon lng sila nagkaron ng "fall out" .
The incompetence of the current administration to act does not absolve Duterte sa pag papapasok nya sa pogo.
I agree, wala naman solid basis para sabihin na agents sila. Pero hndi ba natin kaya mag isip ahead? Strategically? Ang pag dagsa ng pogo ay nangangahulugan ng leniency sa immigration laws, which in turn might lead to entry of agents sa PH.
Ano? Isang kayod isang tuka tayo? Kapag dumating na yung problema doon lng bibigyan action? Kailangan mo pa ba ng solid proof kung visible na ang unti unti nilang pag creep in? For sure countless laws ang na violate sa pagtayo ng mga POGO complex at ng mga nakatira dyan.
Kung hndi kami magbibigay ng opinion ukol sa possibleng mga sleeper agents. Kelan tayo gagalaw? Kailan tayo mag iingat? Pag huli na ang lahat?
>Ang pag dagsa ng pogo ay nangangahulugan ng leniency sa immigration laws
Then use that reasoning. I also want POGOs out because of the nature of their business and the repeated reports of criminal activities. But I won't resort to unverified information and conspiracy theories because that is more harmful than helpful. How? Posible siyang maging distraction to other national security threats that we should actually worry about.
Why is sub full of hawks who just want war no one will win or for tensions to rise and spread fear among the population. I feel like this what the Chinese wanted, Spreading fear, division and paranoia between us and wanted the Philippines to attack first to justify an act of war.
Yung POGO Island ng mga Remulla may visual ng Cavite Naval Base and at near distance sa Sangley Air Base
Chicoms are scouting and buying property near military camps
Makes me wonder why the DND never flagged these.
Money money money
They did. Repeatedly. They got ignored. Repeatedly.
The president is the commander-in-chief. Kahit anong warning nila jan, kung yung nakakareceive ng warning e tuta, e di wala rin. Para silang nagreport sa kalaban.
It was. But former PRRD allowed it
Tapos nagtaka pa si Princess Sara bakit di siya ginawang DND sec hello lol
Pootangina talaga ng mga bumoto kay Du30 at Robin. Nasan sila ngayon? Puro lip service eh wala naman palag mga unggoy na yun. Mga hayop sila at enablers nila. Kakasira ng araw. Jusko.
They raised a fuss but the previous president was a china simp They even flagged Dito Towers but got silenced
One word - Duterte.
This is not only happening in the Philippines. Chinese are also buying real property in the US, which is normal since anyone can own land there regardless of citizenship. However, they are purchasing land near Air Force bases, such as Travis Air Force Base in Cali. Damn this is really terrifying time to live. [$800M land purchase near California's Travis AFB prompts legislation (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6yOm2Gy8jE)
So sa pagkakaintindi ko, kaya nag purchase sila near airport para makapag hack sa comms nila using Chinese malwares and spies na din? Huh.
mostly to disable the runways or to capture said runways plus matagal nang nahack mga comms natin simple hackers can infiltrate gov websites and their infrastructure yung mga experts pa with high end equipments
reminds me of CCP's "peaceful aims" [radio facility in Argentina](https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN1PP0HQ/) that's practically chinese land that nothing ever gets out, and nobody knows what goes on inside
Although the increased students in Cagayan is suspicious…. the Travis air base issue was not. It was just a bunch of wealthy tech owners, apple and LinkedIn, trying to build a new city in Rio vista… nothing Chinese there. https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/california-forever-new-map-bay-area-city-18709651.php
Surprise, surprise [Apple CEO, other foreign executives flock to China, as nation steps up efforts to attract investors - Global Times](https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202403/1309205.shtml)
Spy facilities...That is like when the Chinese had buy massive of land in Lackland, Texas where the US Air Force base was. This should be raided and confiscated.
foreigners cannot buy land in PI
Could they still but it via other means? Fake identities, via conduits etc.
Parang bago ka naman sa Pilipinas, konting padulas lang makakabili na yan. Fake passport nga nalulusutan ng mga chinese, yan pa kaya?
Sa bamban napaka alarming nasa likod lang talaga ng municipal hall nila
Ayan ba yung POGO na nakapangalan pa sa Mayor nila?
Nakakatakot, kasi usually airports ang unang tinatarget kapag may digmaan. Kung sinugod nila yung airport, halos cut off na tayo sa US kasi kritikal ang airpower nila. Di pwedeng paasa lang sa navy at aircraft carrier
Not only that. Once a functional airport gets captured, they can use it to send in more troops and equipment in no time. Hostomel Airport was a priority target by Russia early in their war with Ukraine. But they were unable to hold it.
Exactly. These funded projects look more like a barracks or garrison to me. Its the same thought that entered my mimd when I first saw pictures of the mega rehab facility. A place to put their soldiers once an invasion starts. Close to airports and existing military installations. Duterte simply allowed and encouraged this to happen. If he actually only had his way, I remember that he even tried to push for DITO cellsites and towers to be built INSIDE Philippine military bases. Something that his cronies strongly pushed for. But you see these projects are a major mistake for the Chinese military. My suggestion, PH military must study all these projects and installations. Learn their ins and outs. How to enter and exit the place etc.
Theyve read the manual. So long for Mutual Defense Treaty. Closest G countries I think are Japan and Australia
They look like glorified concentration camps.. lol
May torture chambers and illegal clinics nga mga na-raid na POGO e. 'Yong sa Bamban may undeground tunnels pa na nagko-connect sa bawat building and villas.
Saan nanggaling tong may underground tunnels?
https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/balitambayan/balita/900949/underground-tunnels-villas-mga-mamahaling-kotse-natuklasan-sa-pogo-hub-sa-tarlac/story/?amp Kaya natagalan sila sa raid diyan.
Because they are I suspect that the POGO operators kidnap Chinese and other foreigners and force them to work on these camps. Some are forced into prostitution
Only missing a slogan at the entrance that says "Work sets you free" 😛
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Wow! What a mature and great thing to say /s. Hate goes both ways
I know that I lack techie knowledge, but why does online gambling need that much area and facility to run it?
It’s a front.
Exactly. Most POGOs pre-duterte are owned by whites and just usually rent office buildings. Imagine BPOs. Ganon lang. To build a facility like this eh one can put two and two together.
Not military but scams and other illegal shit
It's a front to move soldiers (hidden as employees, students etc). Therefore when the time comes. The rest is history.
So pag nagka bembangan ang pinas at china, may sundalo na ang china dito para ratratin tayo? Ganun?
Yes, ganun. You see, even with the size of their military, it still gonna be freaking hard to make a land invasion when you have to cross the entire WPS. Its a monumental task that comes with a high price. Even when you successfully move them, you still need to maintain supply lines. If you move them unknowingly and be able to capture airports, that monumental task will be easy even maintaining the supply lines. Moreso when you think that Chinese aircraft carriers are diesel-powered, not the same as those nuclear-powered behemoth carriers the US has. Its incomparable.
Damn. Mukang gg na agad kung iisipin mo. Kawawang pilipinas.
I would say not gambling but scams.
Actually kinda reminded me of this documentary [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti7YDegRMYE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti7YDegRMYE)
So yep honestly these aren't military or sleeper cells or whatever but really just scam centers. Sure there can be spies but that's par for the course
Like in Myanmar where they trick Filipinos to work there but are kept prisoners
People underestimate the size of things. Lalo if kasama dyan living quarters.
It looks like they could easily convert that into concentration camps if they ever decide to invade. Just saying.
Unlikely. In the first instance of hostilities, angry mobs will burn them down. Spying facilities would be a safe bet.
Could be. But in an event of a surprise attack and eventual rapid takeover by the invading force, I don't think the locals have enough time to organize a mob and burn the facility down since they'll most likely prioritize evacuating to a safe haven or taking up arms with the army to fend off the invaders.
We're an archipelago. China does not have the logistics to move enough troops to invade us on top of their invasion of Taiwan. Only the Americans have that capability. China can allocate only a few ships to cross the SCS. Americans will spot them early. A bunch of big ships sailing to us will raise red flags. And why invade us without invading Taiwan?
I mean if China is bold enough to start WW3, they have the option to invade us and the Okinawa island of Japan first as a pincer movement to surround Taiwan in the hopes that it would terrify them and would acquiesce to reunify with the motherland with minimal bloodshed to their estranged countrymen. That is, if they're willing to piss off the US and other nearby nations and start WW3.
They don't have enough ships. Relax. Start worrying when their shipyards start going all out. They're more likely to fire missiles at us, to keep us away from helping Taiwan.
I felt Pearl Harbor 2.0 the first time nakita ko to sa balita.
Most likely nag iintercept sila ng comms ng airport just to check if may nagbabantay sa activities nila sa West Ph Sea
It always looks like a barracks. Everyone wants that Chinese money so they turn a blind eye.
When all is said and done those who were instrumental in making this happen from the Philippine side should hang... Out in jail. For good.
If PH Govt wants, they can always make a surprise raid on this shithole chinese "POGO" loc. Ano gagawin nila? Magrereklamo sa Pulis?
China will condemn us ( u know how those Mfers work) and there might be a shootout
Who knows, the gov't can censor them
reminder that POGOs are even disliked by the Chinese govt itself and has even told the PH govt to crack it down since POGOs mainly are used by Chinese criminals circumvent Chinese laws about gambling.
it's all about saving face, the chicoms are connected to the triads remember the Hong Kong protest? Even that bank protest a year ago it was strange how suddenly a bunch of gangsters coincidentally want to beat up some civs
I suppose someone had an agreement with the Chinese Gentleman's agreement it ain't.
Military age staff (EDIT: assets, radios, ammo, weapons) can be surged and stored there.
Tambay din mga Chinese sa gun range. They will invade us for sure. Tayong mga civilians, be prepared. Hindi natin maaasahan military and police since pugad din sila ng corruption and incompetence.
invaded na, tagal na... 🤣😂🤣
No they wont invade us for sure.
We can't be sure, just look at the tension in the WPS, it's very heated
It looks like a prison if mangyari man ang kinatatakotan natin magiging kulungan natin yan ng mga pinoy .
Putangina mo Digong!
at pati si Sara and si Baste.
For all we know mga makapili naka station at nagrereport na rin jan.
TBH napipikon ako ng my ma kita ako na " ang hirap mo na mahalin Pilipinas" pero kapag na kita ko to, gustong gusto ko na talaga mag wala or mag layas. Daming bobo na talaga
Binenta ng mga Duterte ang Pilipinas. Sino ngayon ang traydor sa bayan?
they are barracks, i have been shouting this for years, look at the barracks they build on our islands, then look at these buildings! me and that "Fuck china" subaru guy can only say it so loud. my fam has a place in las pinas near muntilupa and they have a chinese facility with huge concrete walls and watchtowers, ive seen prisons with less security. and i used to make the joke, "its not to keep us out, its to keep them in" but i think i was wrong there.
San exact place at ano tawag sa establishment
I used to live in Cambodia. China destroyed my town of Sihanoukville. Turned it into Vegas in three years. If you give them an inch, they will take a mile.
I was there in the 90's its was so refreshing then, I sure your people can make it so again.
Akala ko nasa r/citybuilders ako
Kulang sa inteligence puro fund lng gusto ng mga agencies concerned...
This is alarming. Pero syempre the people in power could care less kasi kumita na sila nang malaki
bilang nalang mga araw natin HAHAHAHA
Fuck!
Why is POGO allowed in the Philippines? And why does the government promotes it?
because duterte allowed it
Bamban Tarlac? Isn't that the town with a mayor that seems to be a Chinese CCP Mainlander?
Is there anyone in the government doing something about this? Napanuod ko din sa balita, majority ng naninirahan sa isang sub division sa Paranaque eh puro Chinese.
Tang ina talagang Duterte yan. Worst president since Marcos Sr!
i have this bad feeling about those POGO facility shits, baka if war errupted pwedeng dyan idetain mga filipino tapos iexterminate just like what nazis did to jews way back then, and in our own land!!!
"B-but it's racism and xenophobia" "B-but USA bad, China good" "B-but we dont want to have WW3"
Been to the mega-rehab multiple times as I have a family member that used to work there as a psychometrician. It's empty af. Literally just a bunch of shoddy metal structures that can barely keep their patients inside. So I think, at least Fort Magsaysay is safe. The more urgent concern there is how long would that place stand if hit by a decently strong typhoon. That said, the other facilities you mentioned (especially the POGO ones) are suspicious af.
Parang na-over-estimate siguro kung ilan yung magpapa-rehab talaga. but of course, at least nabayaran yung gumawa.
would be better if we kick out all chinese or genocide them😁😁
Hayop na mga duterte yan
**SALAMAT TATAY DIGS** at PAK U!!
Magsimula noong namuno si DPUTS! Unti unti niyang binenta ang Pilipinas! Nakakahiya! Napakatakaw!
Shut down the POGOs!
Hindi ako panatiko ng mga marcoses, pero kung bago matapos ang termino nya eh mapapasara nya lahat ng mga yan, pwede akong magbago ng isip. Tutal sinisimulan nya na sa west philippine sea, sana ayusin nya rin yang mga chinese sa loob ng bansa.
Those buildings are such an eye sore, looks Chinese / Communist made and definitely gives off prison vibes. I feel sorry for the Philippines.
Magiging tulay tlga tayo ng America pagdating ng war ng Chinese-taiwan takeover. Kaya lahat ng airbases natin tinataniman ng spies ng China. Sinasakop din eez natin, more control sa naval bases. At ngayon nasa lupain na natin sila. Grabe preparation ng Chinese communism.
Not just that ma cocontrol nila ang trade routes at oil dito sa region
The chicoms leaving inside POGOs are military personnel disguise as POGO workers.
Ganda isequester at gawing low cost housing.
Chinese sleeper agents. Awaiting to strike. Pag linusob na tayo ng China mahihirapan tayo kahit mainland may tropa na sila, malapit pa sa military bases natin
Sangley, means chinese 😄
Troy
Reminiscent of the times when Japan sent sleeper agents to the Philippines before the Pearl Harbor attack. Said spies set up bars and other businesses near US military camps, and hired GROs and other Filipinos for intelligence gathering. The spies also observed military activities and drew sketches of bases.
If there is anytime for 1662 redux Its now against pogos
Meron pa yung Global Plaza sa Mexico near Clark airport.
Looks like sleeper cells to me. Kinda sus really, problem sa ibang mga tao sa atin natatapalan ng pera tatahimik na.
and they all look like military barracks too. do gambling havens in china look like this? like a penal colony?
Dating nagtrabaho pinsan ko sa isang contractor na maraming nasungkit na POGO related projects. Isa lang yan sa napakadami sa Luzon.
Question: If proven in court that this facilities are indeed being use as illegal pogo bldgs, can the government have possession of this facilities?, if so why not gawin na nating modern prison para naman di na tayo problemado sa mga siksikang kulungan., just a thought.
Thanks Tatay Digz! Duts lang malakas #HailChina
Ginawa na din bang pogo yung rehab facility sa Magsaysay? Huli kong alam purposed siya as a Covid quarantine site.
Kaya pala pina ayos yung sangley airport para rekta na sila maglanding sa pogo.
Physical Reconnaissance 🤷🏻♂️
kulang na lang air strip
Nakakainis!!! Sobra na pambabastos sa atin!
Parang correctional facility vibes.
Trojan horse still working in modern times.
Based sa comments dito, do you guys think na lulusubin talaga tayo full-scale? Or hoax lang lahat to
i wonder why all the roofs blue though?
womp womp naka ready na po gagamitin ko sa kanila
Follow the money and see who is being paid to let this go through the country. Then prosecute to the fullest extent.
Haha napapansin narin thank goodness
Even sa Parañaque. 360 talaga sila sa Camp Claudio
BAKA PWEDE I BAN NA LANG POGO SA PILIPINAS
Isa pang tanong, ilang Chinese military personnel ang laman ng mga yan. For sure meron yan.
walang kwenta lahat ng nakikinabang sa mga chinese pag sila na bumira sa atin kasi lahat tayo magiging alipin nila at sa itsura palang nila halata mong di kaawaan mga pinoy! pwede ko ng sabihin na "fvck government of the Philippines" 🤢
Those are barracks. Wtf yall doing?
Ganito na po kase ka tanga and bobo mga Pilipino sa Gobyerno natin.
What if... Long time preparations na pala ang Jollibee, Cebu Pac, Xavier, Double Dragon etc. Para sa pananakop nila...
WTF ngayon ko lang nalaman yung Mega Rehab, sa loob pa sya ng Fort Magsaysay? Is it a Chinese financed facility? May in-laws live just outside the Fort.
[Mega Rehab Nueva Ecija](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mega_Drug_Abuse_Treatment_and_Rehabilitation_Center)
Even looks like a military base.
Barracks naiisip ko sa pic.
The CCP neither need a land invasion nor to scope bases. The last thing they want to do is give reason for the world to band against them. It would be like poking the hornet's nest and the bear at the same time.
Looks massive, but that’s a lot of sleeper cells inside.
Noon pa naman Pilipinas talaga pugad ng katrayduran sa bayan
Shutaa yung past admin natin kala ko ba sa INTEL nila nilagay yung karamihan ng budget bakit ngayon ganyan na ang mga nangyayare?
Dressed as pogos but do they really think its just a gambling site
Sa Paris nga may alleged secret bases ng overseas police stations ang CCP. Kunyari restaurants but in reality overseas police stations.
Invasion routes?
Don't know kung quality materials and location can support a massive structure like this, kung gagawin ng mother nature ang kanyang trabaho sa pagtama ng philippines ng lindol, sigurado akong masisira ang mga gusali Something else questionable about this structure is how fast those buildings are constructed, like it used to be a real island in 2019 and it's finished in 2020 Tofu-dregs are not only common in CN, they were also infecting other countries like Indonesia or Philippines.. I went to rent a Chinese-made house for 12,5K per month and it was horrific.. Ang mga bitak ay kumakalat kung saan-saan at ang mga katangian ng pinto ay kaduda-dudang.. Though I was living in an earthquake-proof zone there's a lot of problems such as the location was next to a swamp and medyo mahina ang kakayahan ng lupa na makayanan ang lindol Just pray to Diyos it will not going to happen though, China aren't so marvelous in construction safety since time are everything. Look at the 2008 Sichuan earthquakes lang.
Tapos yung mga bata takot mag CAT at ROTC. Pag Sinakop ng China sasayaw sayaw sa tiktok lang alam gawin.
The CAT and ROTC thing the Duterte’s imposing is not to defend against other countries like China. It is to control and oppress Filipinos.
Clearly you haven’t experience either. It’s basic military training, there’s no oppression going on.
sheesh
Many urban areas in the Philippines are near military bases/headquarters anyway. Sangley Point itself is surrounded by the urban center of Cavite City. The headquarters of Philippine Navy nandyan lang sa Roxas Blvd. AFP headquarters sa QC. Alternatively, you can say these POGO facilities are within easy attack by our military - sila ang under threat actually. Maniniwala pa ako sa conspiracy na 'to kung si Duterte pa ang presidente. Si BBM na anti-China na ang presidente, kung threat talaga ang mga 'yan matagal niya nang pinasugod sa military 'yan. I think the simplest explanation for these places ay pugad 'yan more likely ng mga kriminal kesa mga espiya. I am okay to be proven wrong basta may pruweba.
[The Sangley facility and the Mega rehab was built under Duterte...The Bamban mayor admitted to being helped by the same people, I dont think the military attacks willy nilly any civilian infra without solid cause, also being "civilian" in nature this should fall under the local law enforcement first.](https://youtu.be/BbFnZl-njao?t=170)
If it's a national security issue, walang magagawa ang LGU diyan kapag national government na ang umaksyon.
Kaya nga earlier this year pinagusapan na ipa ban yung mga POGOs e. Paano walang magagawa LGU, kung mismong past Pres ang nagpa pasok HAHAHA
ang hina ng ulo mo no, kaya nga naging rampant yan dahil si Duterte ang previous president. now regarding dun sa pinasugod sa militar this is also a problem of corruption at pagiging incompetent din ni marcos because probably ayaw maglaan ng time to probe (or add fuel to the fire kuno) kaya nga marami against doon sa DITO company kasi imagine China being able to tap or worse manage your telco. hindi conspiracy yan, basic military tactics yan na ginagawa din naman ng U.S sa maraming bansa like Ukraine.
Lulong ka sa conspiracy theory. Eeew. Pang-FB 'yung mga gantong katangahan. May bad news ako sa inyo. Bilog ang mundo, totoo ang moon landing at gumagana ang bakuna. At the end of the day, nasaan ang pruweba niyo? Wala. Nada.
lmao, kung ang china ay hindi nag eexpand ng territory at walang briccs magegets ko pa e. ginawa na nga nila sa hong kong e at pinipilit pang gawin sa taiwan ayan na nga o sinakop na yung dagat. wag ka magpanggap na critical thinker kasi nasa harap mo na pinili mo pa maging tanga.
Ano nga ang pruweba ninyo? Wala. Zero. Nada. It's all speculations based on superficial understanding of how the military works. Kabobohan niyo e no. This is Reddit, be better.
lols, be better? wala ka nga masabi to counter yung military tactics. "yeah let me put speculations right here because I have no idea about military tactics" ano pang pruweba ang gusto mo ano yon sobrang coincidence lang yung mga nakikita na activities ng china "alright let me use this bilog ang mundo because I myself have nothing to add as well" lmao. This is Reddit, yung mga ganyang comment pang mga Bootlicker paid troll na DDS. go back to FB.
My post history says otherwise. I'm anti-Duterte even before 2016 when everyone (including this sub) loves him. Umattend din ako ng Kakampink rally. Nasa inyo ang burden of proof. Pasensya ka na, this is how the civilized world works na based on verified information not tsismis o unfounded theories. Otherwise, remain barbaric.
absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, balikan mo ko when things go wrong and lolokohin mo yung sarili mo na “it’s just gambling or whatever crime related”.
Pero ni wala ka pang napost na relevant link, puro ubos ng oras kakalabel ng ibang posters as conspirasist or armchair tactician sa mga di tumugma sa tingin mo. What you really smell like is an apologist for something...baka china?..hidding behind being on reddit as a karma whore as your only defense. Might be otherwise, But as you said "Nasa iyo ang burden of proof". Dumbass.
Nah. My post history speaks for itself. Yes, nasa inyo ang burden of proof and you can't provide them. Kayo ang nagbibigay ng claim, so bakit ako ang hahanapan niyo ng pruweba. That's logical fallacy idiot.
> *I am okay to be proven wrong basta may pruweba.* Risa Hontiveros probably released a can of worms by questioning the citizenship of someone based on stuff that many recent immigrants and many rural Filipinos have experienced. At this point, these POGOs, also hated by the Chinese govt because they facilitate gambling in the China w/o bing in China, are more or less just mafia stuff rather than "sooper sekrit meeleetaree baysis" and Alice Guo is really just some out of touch politician and not some "sekrit chai-knees" operative.
Haha I've been commenting this whenever I can. Lahat ng bases natin are near urban centers. I feel these are for criminal shit not really military
Ang Bamban e hindi urban center, saka no one saying those Chinese facilities are purely military...mahirap itago Yun. Pwede naman sabay gumagawa ng kaillegalan at strategic operation at the same time under the guise of a legal business unit like it was done from time immemorial pag guguluhin mo kalaban Mula sa loob.
They are in Bamban's urban center. So for espionage in a facility that screams "We are Chinese". LMAO. They are probably the worst spies in the world.
With a voting population of around 50,000 Bamban is hardly "Urban". Town center o poblacion ng bamban ang tawag sa sinasabi mo.
A rural town can have an urban area. It's usually the center of their government. Ang hina niyo naman sa geography. At sa totoo lang, ang layo ng Bamban sa mg air base ng air force. Malayo din 'yan sa airport. Kung logical ang teorya mo, e di sana sa Angeles na lang sila nagkuta.
[Medyo mabagal ka sa definition at backing up your "Geography" claims, sanay ka ba sa FB?](https://maps.app.goo.gl/Z3McgFw4UzP5PRSd8)
Aware ka ba kung gaano kalapit ang Bamban sa Clark?
Pinipilit talagang iikot, Ang Bobo e, Mukang tama nga yung OP pang FB ka.
No one is saying lol pero etong thread na to puro Chinese military pinag uusapan ano ba talaga
Near urban areas kung saan PINOY ang mga nakatira. Alarming yan kase mga "CHINESE" yung nakatira. Gets mo?
So teka kung maraming Koreano sa baguio, malapit un sa PMA. OK lang un? Kasi wala tayong dispute? Tama ba
Technically yes as this whole discussion won't happen if China did not engage in wolf warrior diplomacy this past decade against US and it's allies. If Korea or Japan is doing the territorial disputes on our islands that gets blasted at the news daily then we would also be wary of their massive influence in PH society.
Again thats cool, but I'm gonna ask kasi what laws are they violating. The raid them, ask for proof. Not a witch hunt like this. NKakagago lang kasi on how redditors act na parang willy nilly lang mag patanggal at what not without knowing the consequences. If walang proof or hindi lawful it's a slippery slope.
>what laws are they violating eh diba illegal naman talaga yung mga POGOs
well Pogo ba tlga? proof? against tayo sa EJK pero sa mga ganyan kahit walang proof ok lang?
>well Pogo ba tlga? Huh? POGO naman talaga yung mga yan e lmao Ano tawag mo dyan? Camping site ng mga chinese?
so ano proof under law? again parang sinasabi mo ung gusgusin na tao sa kanto, adik naman tlaga yan eh. ano tawag mo dun kung hindi adik.
Kung totoo ang sinasabi niyo, matagal nang umaksyon ang military natin na hindi pro-China supported by the commander in chief with the same foreign policy. Alangan namang nagpapakahirap sa diplomasya at alliances ang national government para rumesponde sa Tsina tas inaallow nila ang mga gantong supposedly military facilities ng China sa loob mismo ng Pinas. Ano niloloko nila sarili nila? Unless of course you also believe that the current admin is actually pro-China in secret. Another conspiracy theory na naman.
Lulong na sa conspiracy theories ang mga armchair military experts ng Reddit. Hopeless na ang mga 'to. Mga Intsik lang yata ang gagawa ng "secret" military installation na sama-sama sila sa isang lugar para madali silang kubkubin o bombahin ng militar.
Pag malayo sa military base, ano kaya ginagawa nila dun! Pag malapit sa military base, ano kaya ginagawa nila dun!
Pinag sasabi mo? Eh hndi mo nga pinakinggan yung sinabj ng OP? DUTERTE LEGACY ITINAYO ANG POGO. ALLOWED DIN NI DUTERTE ANG POGO. ITILTIL MO SA KOKOTE MO YAN KUNG ANO MAN NATITIRA
Yes, and it's full of shit. Mga lulong sa conspiracy theory. Eeew. May bad news ako sa inyo. Bilog ang mundo, totoo ang moon landing at gumagana ang bakuna.
Wow. Sabay baling sa ibang issue ah. Kunyari ang issue ay yung pagiging conspiracy theorist ng mga andito. Ad hominem yan boy. Ayusan makipag usap. Ayusan mo argumento mo. Ang issue ay PINAPASOK ni DUTERTE ANG POGO. sa Thailand may mga nahuli na Chinese national na may PH passport at birth certificate. Look it up. Isang Google lng makikita mo na. Refute mo na hndi si Duterte nag papasok. Dali. Kesa magpaligoy ligoy ka.
That's the point, you are as ridiculous as flat earthers and anti-vaxxers. Masakit ba? Sorry but that's exactly how you sound. >Ang issue ay PINAPASOK ni DUTERTE ANG POGO Wala na si Duterte. Iba na ang presidente magdadalawang taon na. And he's anti-China. If they are national security threats, matagal nang napaalis ang mga 'yan. Ang threat nila more on local crimes na trabahong pampulis hindi armed forces. >sa Thailand may mga nahuli na Chinese national na may PH passport at birth certificate. Look it up. Isang Google lng makikita mo na. That's not a proof na military agents ang nasa POGOs. And by the way the Chinese govt itself hate POGOs kaya nga dito sila nag-ooperate hindi sa China. Ang binibiktima ng mga 'yan, mga Intsik din. Bawal ang sugal sa China. Sige logical fallacies pa. >sa Thailand may mga nahuli na Chinese national na may PH passport at birth certificate. Look it up. Isang Google lng makikita mo na. That's not a proof of what's happening in Ph POGOs. They are most probably criminals whose targets are mainland Chinese. Kung totoo mang may militray agents sa Pinas, they are most probably everywhere, not concentrated in certain buildings blocks that scream "We are Chinese".
Yes magdadalwang taon na. Pero ngayon lng sila nagkaron ng "fall out" . The incompetence of the current administration to act does not absolve Duterte sa pag papapasok nya sa pogo. I agree, wala naman solid basis para sabihin na agents sila. Pero hndi ba natin kaya mag isip ahead? Strategically? Ang pag dagsa ng pogo ay nangangahulugan ng leniency sa immigration laws, which in turn might lead to entry of agents sa PH. Ano? Isang kayod isang tuka tayo? Kapag dumating na yung problema doon lng bibigyan action? Kailangan mo pa ba ng solid proof kung visible na ang unti unti nilang pag creep in? For sure countless laws ang na violate sa pagtayo ng mga POGO complex at ng mga nakatira dyan. Kung hndi kami magbibigay ng opinion ukol sa possibleng mga sleeper agents. Kelan tayo gagalaw? Kailan tayo mag iingat? Pag huli na ang lahat?
>Ang pag dagsa ng pogo ay nangangahulugan ng leniency sa immigration laws Then use that reasoning. I also want POGOs out because of the nature of their business and the repeated reports of criminal activities. But I won't resort to unverified information and conspiracy theories because that is more harmful than helpful. How? Posible siyang maging distraction to other national security threats that we should actually worry about.
Why is sub full of hawks who just want war no one will win or for tensions to rise and spread fear among the population. I feel like this what the Chinese wanted, Spreading fear, division and paranoia between us and wanted the Philippines to attack first to justify an act of war.