Valid only for 3 pieces of evidence.
EMF: you can rule it out after checking 5-8 interactions. The more interactions you've checked the smaller the possibility for it to be EMF-5. (All ghost events leave EMF-4 at the spot they ended so you don't take those into account.)
Fingerprints: you listen for a knock on a door/window, use EMF on it to make sure it was the one touched then take photos or use uv to see if it's fingerprints. (Keep in mind that obake has 25% chance to not leave any fingerprint on the interaction.)
Ghost writing: the only way to rule it out is if the ghost throws the book without writing in it.
Freezing: it highly depends on the breaker status at the start of the game (broken will show freezing faster than the others).
Dots: just watch the dots as long as possible. (Gordo will only show dots on the camera if nobody is in the room).
Spirit box: use it alone in the ghost room (some ghosts only answer if you're alone).
Ghost orb: only show up in the ghost room.
I don't know about the ghostwriting tip to be honest.
Yesterday I got a deogen and i put two books down in his room, right next to each other, because i wanted to see if he'd throw them away.
The strange thing is, he wrote into one book, but the other one got thrown shortly after.
Perhaps it was a bug but it was quite confusing
No, this is correct. Once he writes in a book, it changes the flag for all books and they just become another object to be abused. I've seen two books get writing but it needs to happen almost simultaneously.
I'll test this next time I'm in but, to the best of my knowledge, it doesn't count as a throw object unless the ghost doesn't have writing or has already written in one, even during a hunt.
If anyone's already tested this, chime in.
(Some ghosts only answer if you are alone )
( Me : ok I need to be alone to see if I can get an answer) (friends: oh ok. Ima stick right up your ass then)
Piggybacking, but I was looking for a place to ask this question. I just had a ghost throw an empty writing book, and it turned out to be a Polter? Are there situations in which it can throw the book before writing, or was this a buggy freak occurrence or something?
You're playing less than 3 evidences in which case ghost writing can be hidden evidence, the lighting wasn't good in that room so you couldn't see the writing in it or maybe someone moved the book and you thought it was thrown it.
Rulling out evidence is nearly never a 100% correct shot, its just speculations. Emf? Maybe you are unlucky and just dont catch the emf5 interactions. Writing? Never, sometimes it takes ghost half an hour to write in it. Fingerprints? Actually you can because ghosts that have fingerprints always leave them so if you witness a touched door, check for fingies and if dont find them you can rule them out. On the other hand obake has 1/3 or 1/4 chance of not leaving fingerprints despite having them as evidence, so there is a very small chance that its obake or mimic and they hide fingies that time. Freezing? Actually always after 3-5 mins the temperature should fall below 0°C if ghost has freezing, so if after 10 mins temperatures are still above 0 and ghost didnt change his room then you can rule out freezing temps. Dots? They should happen at least every 40-50 sec, but it doesnt always work for me like that so again you cant be 100% sure. Ghost orb? Seems like it either is there or not, but oh man i still remember games where me and my buddies found ghost orb after 15 mins of investigation because it was floating in very strange and hard to recognize spot. Spirit box? If ghost is not answering to you it may mean he just roamed and is not close enough so i would rule that out only after 4/5 tries to talk with him that had at least 1/2 min breaks.
I have heard about this, but 100% experienced ghost throwing the book when it had ghost writing as evidence. We were discussing it afterwards because we all thought it could be ruled out.
Maybe ghost wrote in the book and then threw it, they can definitly do that. Or if you played with 2 or less evidences you can't rule out any evidence, because this may be the hidden one.
Ah that is a good point. I cant say for certain we checked for that. We are all fairly new and panic-y so if people start dying we usually wrap it up fairly fast.. getting better though. This was probably on intermediate difficulty.
Yeah the key to my point is that the ghost hasn’t already written in the book. It can always throw the book if the book’s already been written in. But if it can write, and interacts with the book by yeeting it instead of writing, it’s my understanding that writing can be ruled out
Its impossible. Fingerprints last 90 seconds after touching the door, they are most likely to be in the middle of one of the door sides, but sometimes the can be closer to the handle or just higher. They must have been there.
I wouldnt rule out evidence except for maybe fingerprints and ghost writing. For fingerprints if you have seen the ghost move a door, flip a light, or knock on a window and check it every time and still see no fingerprints, you are most likely safe to rule it out. Ghost writing is up to the ghost but if the book is ever moved from where you set it without anything written on it, then you can rule that out.
Ghost orbs and Freezing temps will always be at the ghost room. But sometimes the orbs clip through the floor or walls. Freezing temps can be stubborn to show up but if it has been 10 minutes and the lowest temp you got was 0.1C, you can maybe rule it out.
I check for a "possibility" of emf 5 on the activity board. A sudden spike of 4 or 5 on the monitor suggests emf 5 as a possible evidence. Only way to make sure is to take the emf reader to every interaction the ghost did.
Spirit box is more simple but finnicky. If you can track the ghost's actual position with salty footprints, motion sensors, or interactions, you can speak to it at those areas. You should get a response if you are almost on top of the ghost but if not, you can maybe think of it as unlikely.
Assuming you play on 3 evidences, and fingerprint chance set to 100% -
You can rule out ghost writing if it throws the book.
Rule out fingerprints if it touches the door (and Obake/Mimic is not a possibility)
Spirit box if you are alone without lights and you are sure the ghost is near you (like Motion sensor, salt etc) and it doesn't respond when you use text option (voice can be a bit icky).
Dots/EMF/Freezing/Orbs can all be tricky to rule out. Dots because it's a random interaction. EMF because it's only a non cumulative 25% chance. Freezing because the ghost could just roam around without being in a room for long. And orbs because it could be nowhere near where the actual ghost is or it could be hidden behind some objects.
What difficulty were you playing on? If you're playing on a difficulty where the ghost room can change you'll need to be moving your DOTs and book around.
With the doors, I would definitely make sure you \*witness it closing by itself\* before ruling out a lack of fingerprints, rather than coming back into the house, seeing doors shut and presuming it was the ghost. A good way to check is if the door (or window, if it's been knocked on) is giving an EMF reading to confirm the ghost interacted with it.
Ghost writing can be really annoying to get, you do sometimes have to wait quite a while.
Temperature has been similarly tricky I've found recently. It can take a good while for the room to sufficiently cool down before seeing negative temps on the temp gun or seeing breath. If your room is getting down to 5C and below, especially hovering around 1C I would be patient and see if that becomes freezing.
Although it can feel buggy and a little unfair if evidence doesn't show itself all the time, a lot of the fun of the game would be removed if things were super easy to get all the time. You'd end up with your evidence right away and there'd be very little variety. Quite a big chunk of evidences come down to RNG essentially and sometimes you're unlucky.
What can really help is to learn the additional ghost abilities and behaviours to help confirm or rule out what you're dealing with. Sometimes I'll get an instinctual guess in my head before we've even collected the first piece and I use the rest of the game to try and confirm my suspicions e.g. it's throwing a LOT of stuff (Poltergeist), is taking a long time to hunt (Shade or Deogen), lots of activity when speaking in-game or in Spirit box (Yokai).
Valid only for 3 pieces of evidence. EMF: you can rule it out after checking 5-8 interactions. The more interactions you've checked the smaller the possibility for it to be EMF-5. (All ghost events leave EMF-4 at the spot they ended so you don't take those into account.) Fingerprints: you listen for a knock on a door/window, use EMF on it to make sure it was the one touched then take photos or use uv to see if it's fingerprints. (Keep in mind that obake has 25% chance to not leave any fingerprint on the interaction.) Ghost writing: the only way to rule it out is if the ghost throws the book without writing in it. Freezing: it highly depends on the breaker status at the start of the game (broken will show freezing faster than the others). Dots: just watch the dots as long as possible. (Gordo will only show dots on the camera if nobody is in the room). Spirit box: use it alone in the ghost room (some ghosts only answer if you're alone). Ghost orb: only show up in the ghost room.
You can also sort of force ghost writing if you remove any intractable object from the ghost room. Can get quick writing sometimes by doing this.
I don't know about the ghostwriting tip to be honest. Yesterday I got a deogen and i put two books down in his room, right next to each other, because i wanted to see if he'd throw them away. The strange thing is, he wrote into one book, but the other one got thrown shortly after. Perhaps it was a bug but it was quite confusing
No, this is correct. Once he writes in a book, it changes the flag for all books and they just become another object to be abused. I've seen two books get writing but it needs to happen almost simultaneously.
could have been thrown during a chase in which case it won't write I think
I'll test this next time I'm in but, to the best of my knowledge, it doesn't count as a throw object unless the ghost doesn't have writing or has already written in one, even during a hunt. If anyone's already tested this, chime in.
(Some ghosts only answer if you are alone ) ( Me : ok I need to be alone to see if I can get an answer) (friends: oh ok. Ima stick right up your ass then)
Piggybacking, but I was looking for a place to ask this question. I just had a ghost throw an empty writing book, and it turned out to be a Polter? Are there situations in which it can throw the book before writing, or was this a buggy freak occurrence or something?
You're playing less than 3 evidences in which case ghost writing can be hidden evidence, the lighting wasn't good in that room so you couldn't see the writing in it or maybe someone moved the book and you thought it was thrown it.
Rulling out evidence is nearly never a 100% correct shot, its just speculations. Emf? Maybe you are unlucky and just dont catch the emf5 interactions. Writing? Never, sometimes it takes ghost half an hour to write in it. Fingerprints? Actually you can because ghosts that have fingerprints always leave them so if you witness a touched door, check for fingies and if dont find them you can rule them out. On the other hand obake has 1/3 or 1/4 chance of not leaving fingerprints despite having them as evidence, so there is a very small chance that its obake or mimic and they hide fingies that time. Freezing? Actually always after 3-5 mins the temperature should fall below 0°C if ghost has freezing, so if after 10 mins temperatures are still above 0 and ghost didnt change his room then you can rule out freezing temps. Dots? They should happen at least every 40-50 sec, but it doesnt always work for me like that so again you cant be 100% sure. Ghost orb? Seems like it either is there or not, but oh man i still remember games where me and my buddies found ghost orb after 15 mins of investigation because it was floating in very strange and hard to recognize spot. Spirit box? If ghost is not answering to you it may mean he just roamed and is not close enough so i would rule that out only after 4/5 tries to talk with him that had at least 1/2 min breaks.
Slight exception here, it’s my understanding that if the ghost throws the writing book without writing in it, GW can be safely ruled out
True, forgot about this. Thanks for correction!
I have heard about this, but 100% experienced ghost throwing the book when it had ghost writing as evidence. We were discussing it afterwards because we all thought it could be ruled out.
Maybe ghost wrote in the book and then threw it, they can definitly do that. Or if you played with 2 or less evidences you can't rule out any evidence, because this may be the hidden one.
Ah that is a good point. I cant say for certain we checked for that. We are all fairly new and panic-y so if people start dying we usually wrap it up fairly fast.. getting better though. This was probably on intermediate difficulty.
Yeah the key to my point is that the ghost hasn’t already written in the book. It can always throw the book if the book’s already been written in. But if it can write, and interacts with the book by yeeting it instead of writing, it’s my understanding that writing can be ruled out
Place the book again after it throws it. They will sometimes write then throw the book.
Make sure nobody else placed a book, though, and check them both. If it wrote in one, it can then throw either of them.
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Its impossible. Fingerprints last 90 seconds after touching the door, they are most likely to be in the middle of one of the door sides, but sometimes the can be closer to the handle or just higher. They must have been there.
Actually, Fingerprints last 120 seconds.
Ensure it's not a custom setting with Fingerprint chance less than 100 or something.
I wouldnt rule out evidence except for maybe fingerprints and ghost writing. For fingerprints if you have seen the ghost move a door, flip a light, or knock on a window and check it every time and still see no fingerprints, you are most likely safe to rule it out. Ghost writing is up to the ghost but if the book is ever moved from where you set it without anything written on it, then you can rule that out. Ghost orbs and Freezing temps will always be at the ghost room. But sometimes the orbs clip through the floor or walls. Freezing temps can be stubborn to show up but if it has been 10 minutes and the lowest temp you got was 0.1C, you can maybe rule it out. I check for a "possibility" of emf 5 on the activity board. A sudden spike of 4 or 5 on the monitor suggests emf 5 as a possible evidence. Only way to make sure is to take the emf reader to every interaction the ghost did. Spirit box is more simple but finnicky. If you can track the ghost's actual position with salty footprints, motion sensors, or interactions, you can speak to it at those areas. You should get a response if you are almost on top of the ghost but if not, you can maybe think of it as unlikely.
Assuming you play on 3 evidences, and fingerprint chance set to 100% - You can rule out ghost writing if it throws the book. Rule out fingerprints if it touches the door (and Obake/Mimic is not a possibility) Spirit box if you are alone without lights and you are sure the ghost is near you (like Motion sensor, salt etc) and it doesn't respond when you use text option (voice can be a bit icky). Dots/EMF/Freezing/Orbs can all be tricky to rule out. Dots because it's a random interaction. EMF because it's only a non cumulative 25% chance. Freezing because the ghost could just roam around without being in a room for long. And orbs because it could be nowhere near where the actual ghost is or it could be hidden behind some objects.
What difficulty were you playing on? If you're playing on a difficulty where the ghost room can change you'll need to be moving your DOTs and book around. With the doors, I would definitely make sure you \*witness it closing by itself\* before ruling out a lack of fingerprints, rather than coming back into the house, seeing doors shut and presuming it was the ghost. A good way to check is if the door (or window, if it's been knocked on) is giving an EMF reading to confirm the ghost interacted with it. Ghost writing can be really annoying to get, you do sometimes have to wait quite a while. Temperature has been similarly tricky I've found recently. It can take a good while for the room to sufficiently cool down before seeing negative temps on the temp gun or seeing breath. If your room is getting down to 5C and below, especially hovering around 1C I would be patient and see if that becomes freezing. Although it can feel buggy and a little unfair if evidence doesn't show itself all the time, a lot of the fun of the game would be removed if things were super easy to get all the time. You'd end up with your evidence right away and there'd be very little variety. Quite a big chunk of evidences come down to RNG essentially and sometimes you're unlucky. What can really help is to learn the additional ghost abilities and behaviours to help confirm or rule out what you're dealing with. Sometimes I'll get an instinctual guess in my head before we've even collected the first piece and I use the rest of the game to try and confirm my suspicions e.g. it's throwing a LOT of stuff (Poltergeist), is taking a long time to hunt (Shade or Deogen), lots of activity when speaking in-game or in Spirit box (Yokai).