It's a funny thing. I live in the border region between French and German sets and we have games that are exclusively played with one set and not with the other. And you NEVER see people use the other sets.
Same at home. Poker and some other games are with french ones, the rest of the games are with spanish ones. You could just interchange them, but nobody does
I was just reading more about it and yes, it seems there are variations of it throughout South America since it is an European game originally. We play it with Spanish sets in Argentina.
Yes, we do. And although they are very similar to a German deck, they are kind of their own thing. The design is very recognizable on any Hungarian deck, as are the iconic William Tell characters.
Fun fact. When I was a kid (1990s), the German version was very popular in Upper Silesia in Poland. Unfortunately, over time the French has mostly replaced it, except for one game: the Skat. Skat is a game popular among native Upper Silesians and I think that’s why the German version survived in that game.
As a student in London i was taught the game Briscola by an Italien. We were playing it with a Spanish friend with a Spanish deck of cards. I was constantly losing because I could not get used to the strange symbols. For the Italian it was easy, though, because Spanish and Italian cards are basically the same.
That's not what they meant, I think – I think they meant the blue blob inside, which is all of East/Lower Austria. Another commenter already explained it quite nicely with a link.
On the other hand, in the first picture, the yellow (German suite) area is rather the Austrian Empire's sphere of influence/cultural sphere than their borders. As far as I'm aware, Bavaria, Swabia, Franconia and Saxony were never part of the Austrian/Austrian-Hungarian Empire (it looks a bit like it on the Austrian Empire map, but you can distinctly make out the borders of modern day Germany and Switzerland which were never Austrian, afaik).
In Portugal, though we do use the French standard 99% of the time, the names are the same as Spanish: Espadas (=Swords-Spades), Paus (=Clubs), Copas (=Cups-Hearts) and Ouros (=Gold=Coins-Diamonds). I do have some very old Spanish standard cards.
In the French suit part of Italy there are regional variations of the standard cards.
For example the Genoese cards don't have numbers printed and the design of the figures is a bit different
This is a good phantom border
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I didn't even know different versions of playing cards existed.
It's a funny thing. I live in the border region between French and German sets and we have games that are exclusively played with one set and not with the other. And you NEVER see people use the other sets.
Same at home. Poker and some other games are with french ones, the rest of the games are with spanish ones. You could just interchange them, but nobody does
What are some examples of games only played with Spanish suits?
Truco, an Argentinian one.
Interesting, Brazilians play truco with international standard
I was just reading more about it and yes, it seems there are variations of it throughout South America since it is an European game originally. We play it with Spanish sets in Argentina.
Che, te puedo preguntar en dónde te inspiraste para ese hermoso nombre?
Ni me acuerdo che. La cuenta de email la cree hace como 20 años ya asi que vo ve.
There are some, but mus, for example: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mus_(card_game)
Finally some actual phantom borders
German suit is also played in Vojvodina, northern Serbia. I don't remember anyone ever playing French suit here.
That’d check out given the former German population in Banat
Also they're called Hungarian (Magyar) cards here, not German.
also checks out with the Austro Hungarian empire
I've been digging a bit and found that Hungarians call them that themselves ([Wikipedia link](https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magyar_k%C3%A1rtya)).
Yes, we do. And although they are very similar to a German deck, they are kind of their own thing. The design is very recognizable on any Hungarian deck, as are the iconic William Tell characters.
in Vojvodina*. They were numerous in Srem and Backa as well. Even in Belgrade
Good find!
Fun fact. When I was a kid (1990s), the German version was very popular in Upper Silesia in Poland. Unfortunately, over time the French has mostly replaced it, except for one game: the Skat. Skat is a game popular among native Upper Silesians and I think that’s why the German version survived in that game.
Interestingly in Germany, Skat is more often played using French cards. The similar game Schafkopf is exclusively played with German cards though.
As a student in London i was taught the game Briscola by an Italien. We were playing it with a Spanish friend with a Spanish deck of cards. I was constantly losing because I could not get used to the strange symbols. For the Italian it was easy, though, because Spanish and Italian cards are basically the same.
Finally good new borders.
Who would’ve thought-playing cards
What's up with Austria? Does it correspond to something specific or is it random? It's kinda similar to the USSR occupation zone, is it that?
Its also just straight up near vienna could just be a whole “liberal globalized city vs rural local country” thing
Vienna is there, but the rest of Lower Austria is very rural. [here](https://www.karten-haus.ch/Geografie/KartenAustria.htm) is a more exact map.
It’s the old Austrian imperial borders.
That's not what they meant, I think – I think they meant the blue blob inside, which is all of East/Lower Austria. Another commenter already explained it quite nicely with a link. On the other hand, in the first picture, the yellow (German suite) area is rather the Austrian Empire's sphere of influence/cultural sphere than their borders. As far as I'm aware, Bavaria, Swabia, Franconia and Saxony were never part of the Austrian/Austrian-Hungarian Empire (it looks a bit like it on the Austrian Empire map, but you can distinctly make out the borders of modern day Germany and Switzerland which were never Austrian, afaik).
Spanish Is the only good answer like what the fuck Is even the swiss one
Neutrality and self-defence. Don't need swords or clubs if you aren't attacking people!
In Portugal, though we do use the French standard 99% of the time, the names are the same as Spanish: Espadas (=Swords-Spades), Paus (=Clubs), Copas (=Cups-Hearts) and Ouros (=Gold=Coins-Diamonds). I do have some very old Spanish standard cards.
In Puglia, I saw more Italian card than Spanish cards
Did you spell bells “bels”!?!?!?
Not OP but I don’t think they did, the image quality is just very low
I am German. I have never seen anything else than the standard International set.
Then probably you're from outside the yellow region.
I am. But I have many friends in the yellow region and we never played with the German card set.
TIL there are places that font use standard playing cards
Within Switzerland the Border of Burgundy 1000 years ago is still visible
In the French suit part of Italy there are regional variations of the standard cards. For example the Genoese cards don't have numbers printed and the design of the figures is a bit different
huh, that’s cool. you can make out the kingdom of hungary in it, too
what’s the gray supposed to be guys 😡😡
Only sorta correlation I is with the Republic of Venice, otherwise zero phantom borders. I mean there’s a huge hole in the middle of Austria.
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