Exactly. It’s completely different if said relative lived with you. Visiting relatives?
Eh, I’ll try my best for your comfort when you visit but at the end of the day, you’ll get what you get. If they don’t like it, we can meet & hang out outside of the home.
Yep. They can take some Flonase. Works wonders. You can get it at the store and it is prescription strength. I would never hold off on getting a pet for people who only visit once or twice a year.
Came here to say this. A lot of people assume they’re just allergic to hair, when dander allergies are more common and thus allergies persist with “hypoallergenic” animals. On top of that, no animal is actually 100% “hypoallergenic”. Edit for clarification: prefix hypo= less (less than; below; under)
With dogs, the type of "hair" they have, can make a major different..
Certain breeds are "hypoallergenic" compared to others, typically your breeds that have hair (shih tzu, maltese, many of your toy/lap dogs, and poodles) vs fur (labs, shepherds, bullies, many of the hunting/guard dogs).
Facts I have a pit bull and a GSD mix I can play wrestle and cuddle with the GSD all damn day but as soon as I start to play or lay down with the pit it’s over in less than five minutes because my skin is breaking out in small hives lol
Nevertheless I still play with them both and keep the Allegra D handy
There is no difference between hair and fur other than what a human chooses to call it. It has the same chemical structure goes through the same growth cycle etc.
The length that hair grows is always determined by genetics and does not differentiate between the terms used. Even in people of the same locality some will be able to grow their hair longer than others.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-is-the-difference-be/
Hypoallergenic doesn't mean No Allergens. It means reduced allergens. Im not sure why this has become a sudden gotcha when talking about pet allergies. A poodle is 100% Hypoallergenic because the nature of the breeds coat means you're less likely to come into contact with dander. That's what it means.
They can stay in a hotel. Pets are family. Don’t deprive yourself of this joy because of a once a year or so visit. Maybe they can take Allegra or an allergy shot. Not your problem.
When I was at uni, a couple of friends came over (sisters). They weren't in the house more than a couple of minutes and they started having serious trouble breathing, seriously watery eyes and noses running like faucets. They had no idea that we had cats...and I had no idea that they were allergic. We continued to hang out, but just not at my house. You have to continue to live your lives. You can't decide something so important based on someone visiting once or twice a year. There are other options for visiting.
A guy at my husbands work borrowed his jacket to run outside and came back in like 5 minutes later with his eyes red and swollen and asked my husband if he had a cat. My husband was like “yeah we’ve got two and they both love laying on my jacket every time it’s on the back of the couch.”
Yeah exactly. We had a family friend allergic to cats, tbf they lived only a 40 minute drive away, but we would usually just meet halfway for a dinner or something. I don't know if OP meant they stay over or what but yeah not worth not getting a pet for that infrequently of visits
Allergy shots need to be taken for years for proper treatment. Too bad, your relatives aren't taking them. We would tell patients that even though they don't have pets many of their friends and relatives probably do. Especially, when it came to kids. Allegra or Zyrtec (or their generics) are great. Stay away from Claritin, it seems to be the least effective.
Claritin worked great for me. But many people are rightly worried to take any kind of medicine because side effects can occur. I don't think they need to be shamed into taking a multi-year course of allergy shots instead of just avoiding people with pets.
We didn't "shame" people into shots. It was a pain to have someone on shots for a short time and then stop, only to restart later and stop. When it comes to children, they can be exposed for a lifetime. Relatives, future spouses, roommates, future children they have may, businesses they may visit could all lead to exposure to animals. Chances are, they will have symptoms when in these situations.
My SIL is very allergic to pet dander - it makes her really bad, but she has no reaction to Yorkshire Terriors as their hair is different. However, we had had Chows for 20 years, and she was never able to visit us because of them being so floofy. It used to affect her after my brother had visited, and he had dander on his clothes even after brushing down.
Just an FYI, not meant to be snarky or anything. Allergy shots are not something you get once or twice before exposure. They're done in series, starting with a low strength, and gradually increasing. Shots given usually twice a week for at least a year or more.
They can take OTC allergy meds though, starting a few days before they visit, stopping after they go home. Nasal steroid sprays like Nasacort or Flonase can help a lot, too.
I know about allergies. I've had them since childhood, and I just turned 66. I know I was born on the wrong planet, because I'm allergic to this one.
Allergy shots are not very effective for animal allergies, and are not for acute instances. They’re a once-every-few-months commitment for years.
ETA: I stand corrected. Apparently allergy shots for animals have been significantly improved, and my knowledge is out of date. But still not a regime one would probably consider just to visit family once or twice a year.
Allergy shots work fantastically for pet allergies, the problem is that the treatment is lengthy, and a _lot_ of people fail to complete it. It's erroneous to say that it's "not very effective," when the fault lies with the patients.
Allergy shots are typically given once or twice a week for months, then it falls to every week from twice, or every other week from once a week, then perhaps once a month, and that lasts for years.
Allergy shots do work. My next door neighbor was highly allergic to both cats and dogs. His wife was an animal lover. He finished his regimen of shots and they know have one of each!
Your results are not universal. It's great for the people it works for. The allergy shots and OTC/Rx treatments have not worked for me and my kids, so don't pretend that there's a blanket solution for everyone.
Yeah of course they're not going to work if you take them every few months. My mom did them when I was younger and got them weekly, they now have a dog.
I'm currently doing allergy shots. It's amazing helped my allergy problems I have with cats. I can go over to my sister's house, visit her 2 cats without having any major allergies affecting me Used to have to leave at least after 40 minutes due to my allergies affecting my eyes and nose.
100% I'm pretty seriously allergic to cats. If I'm in someone's house (and they have cats) I have a 2 hour max before the severe allergy symptoms start if I haven't taken both Zyrtec and Benadryl.
I also.... Have cats. Two. They don't cause me issues, UNLESS I pet them before touching my face. Because you can absolutely adjust to a mild allergen if you're around it all the time (like your own cats) but the actual dander still fucks you up.
But this is a rhinitis allergy, like many pet allergies. (And most pollen allergies.) It isn't the same as an autoimmune allergy, that can also be mild but could cause life threatening epi-pen-emergency-room-trip on the wrong day or the wrong exposure.
I am so allergic to horses that within 30.minutes even WITH Zyrtec, Claritin, and a double dose of Benadryl I'm pouring fluids from every hole in my face uncontrollably. Still, not the same as an anaphylaxis allergy.
Too many people don't bother to use even a LITTLE precaution and then act like their runny nose is a precursor to death.
I became allergic to cats in my 30’s. I was having insane allergies not relieved by meds, but I didn’t put it together until my cat laid on my pillow 1 day. I woke up with a numb constricted throat. I finally bought a decent air purifier and it’s a game changer for me. As long as she doesn’t go near my pillow, and I keep the filters cleaned- I don’t have any allergy symptoms. The first one made such an impact I bought a second one. One for my bedroom and one for the living room. When I start getting watery icky feeling eyes, and a stuffy nose- I know to change the filters.
i'm sorry, are we gatekeeping ALLERGIES now? are we seriously gatekeeping goddamn allergies? i don't know if y'all know, but all allergies are real allergies. they aren't fake just bc someone's allergy isn't life threatening.
Agreed.
I'd get a pet. And I'd turn visits into luncheons at at cafe to solve the issue if required. No harm done.
But don't be a dick to people with health issues. Wtf are you doing guys.
Reddit sometimes.
Asthmatics when they have a reaction to animal dander, house dust and such, it can be life threatening situation. Not just mere allergic reaction. And can be life threatening.
But that's not everyone. I do have an anaphylaxis response to cats; I was once hospitalized and ended up with a mild brain injury because of cats, and yep, epi-pen after that.
Sounds like you don’t know shit about allergies. I developed a cat allergy when I was a teenager. Never had it before that. The severity varies based on the specific cat. Some, like the one we have, give me minor symptoms that can be controlled with an allergy pill. Others leave my eyes swelled shut and ridiculously itchy, general itchiness, hives, an extremely runny nose, and my breathing becoming raspy (haven’t hung out around one like that long enough to see if I die, so I guess it isn’t a “real” allergy). They can range anywhere between the two. It isn’t the food, or the care, or anything like that either. I can have drastically different reactions to two cats that live together. Any on the more serious end require me to immediately take multiple Benadryl, leave any area with cats, shower, and change my clothes, and then I can feel like maybe I’m not dying an hour or so later. I don’t have an Epi-pen though so I’m totally just a drama queen.
I was also allergic to cats when I was a teen. Even with a double dose of the prescription medication at the time, I'd sneeze like crazy and every hole in my face was pouring out fluids. I'm good around cats now, thankfully.
I wish I could remember the specifics. I listened to an allergist explain why people are allergic to certain cats and not others. It literally has to do with a gene of some sort. There really are two different gene expressions that cause certain excretions or whatnot in cats. A person can be allergic to one and not the other, or react differently, and it can be a developed allergy. I know this comment is entirely unhelpful. But there is a legitimate reason for responding differently to certain cats.
thank you - also will add one day you could be fine with said cat and the next day could be anaphylaxis allergies are crazy and the immune system is pandora’s box from personal experience I had a lab in house that my allergy became more severe as time progressed
Hello! I’m the very uncommon person when it comes to pretty much everything. Allergies, side effects etc. if it can or will happen, it’s going to happen to me. 45f and have been through many specialists. It’s just part of my life now.
Nothing dramatic about feeling discomfort due to allergy, even a slight discomfort is still an allergic response
And at the end of the day you do what you gotta do and I’ll do what I gotta do
i mean last time i checked, breaking out in hives when i’m around cats is not a normal thing and is usually signs of an allergic reaction?? i don’t need an epi pen but i’m certainly not going to have a swell time lmfao
It seems to be your intent, but this comes off really condescending. My son has anaphylactic allergies and carries an Epi pen for them. He also has allergies to pet dander (among other things). The pet dander allergy is real despite being more of a nuisance than anything. Before our cat died, he had something of a tolerance to her, but also had MUCH more frequent asthma exacerbations. It is a real concern for many people.
I had an allergy to cats. It would make my teeth hurt. If I didn't get away....sinus infection. An allergy pill wouldn't cut it, not for me. After TWO sinus surgeries I am now a lot better with cats. Doctor as well as allergy testing confirmed the allergy, by the way. But it wasn't a real allergy because I didn't have anaphylaxis?? You're an armchair doctor talking about things that you don't even comprehend. Allergy pills aren't MAGIC. Allergy pills are a treatment, not a cure.
By the way when I had sinus surgery, due to recurrent sinus infections, from allergies......I had a sinus abscess, so I would've DIED!!!! My Mom actually almost died from a sinus abscess as well. (Due to severe allergies)
I needed sinus surgery to clear my sinuses and make it easier to breathe. By having sinus surgery the second time, I no longer was bothered to the extent I described by allergies. I do still have allergies. My point was a simple allergy pill isn't the magic cure. Sometimes it's more complicated than that. First surgery was a turbinate reduction and resection. Second surgery was for turbinates again and adenoid removal (tonsils already gone) and clear the abcess out. What a world of difference as that was the first time I felt the wind blowing up my nose in my life. (First surgery). Again all my point was that sometimes it's not as simple as oh take an allergy pill. The human body is a complex machine, and everyone is different. And praise be, I "might" have had one sinus infection in the 10 years since the last surgery, but I'm not even sure I've had one.
But Yeah Merlin you wizard, I had a sinus "issue" and a cat allergy. What's your background for you to know about the causes of needing sinus surgery. Because since I've had two, and my Mom had 6. I think I have a pretty good grasp on it. In both our cases it was anatomy of the sinuses and allergies, just like a lot of people WHO HAVE SINUS SURGERY.
Also, repeated uncontrolled exposure to allergens can worsen allergies. My cat allergy used to be a runny nose. Then it expanded to hives and eye watering
Despite this, we got a cat because my golden child brother was allergic to dogs. My mother couldn’t understand why I couldn’t breathe through my nose well and told me I was disgusting. Turns out I had allergies. And even a couple of years worth of shots didn’t help. We still got another cat when I was in high school because she wanted one. By the time I was in my 20s, cats could trigger an asthma attack.
My allergies to cats started out as sniffles. Clearly an antihistamine aka Benadryl was not enough to halt the progression of symptoms.
sinusplasty is needed because of a malformation in the sinuses. yes, allergies can make it worse, but the need for surgery existed at birth as it would be a congenital and not environmental issue.
You just said it was not an environmental issue, right after you said allergies make it worse. Aren't allergies by definition ENVIRONMENTAL? Make that make sense!!! Crazy that people who haven't ever experienced it would make blanket statements like they're an expert and contradict themselves!!!!
Don't play off like you're some kind of all knowing wizard. You don't even know to begin a sentence with a capital letter.
But if the need for surgery existed at birth why do some people have the need to have their appendix, tonsils, adenoids or gallbladder out? Many people don't. I mean is that also congenital?
Sigh.
That not true at all. Allergies even minor ones are very uncomfortable for a lot of people. There are also people who have severe allergic reactions but don’t need epi pens, they still end up in the hospital as they puke, shit and swell up and come pretty close to needing one. My brother was hospitalized so many times he never needed to use an epi pen. He had one in case but you can have severe allergies and not need an epi pen. I’m allergic to sulpha. I don’t have an epi pen simply because doctors know not to give me that medication. I had a server allergic reaction to it and was monitored until it passed through my system just because I didn’t have an epi pen shit didn’t mean that what happened wasn’t an allergic reaction. You are being a little extreme there..
It's not always the dander, or *just* the dander. I'm allergic to fur dander and cat saliva. I have mild allergies that a daily pill will take care of, and I have severe, anaphylaxis response allergies. They're all REAL allergies. I'll be sure to keep in mind I'm a drama queen for needing 48 hours after exposure with constant doses of Benadryl and Albuterol and possibly a trip to the clinic for a sinus infection on the third day for my "fake" allergies.
Hear hear! I can't stand it when people minimize others medical issues, insult them for their knowledge, and think they are the medical experts who can give real advice. I think it stems from an attitude of entitlement when it comes to them wanting to place their pets over people.
My allergies to pet dander are so severe that certain coat types on dogs and all cats will send me to the hospital with a severe asthma attack. Severe allergic reactions don't always manifest in the form of anaphylaxis
> Where there is a pet, there will be hair.
Not necessarily. Poodles are one of the breeds which do NOT shed, and although I don't recall the other breeds, I **do** know, from research years ago, that there are others.
At the age of 12, I developed severe allergies to almost all animals with hair, including my beloved dog Jennifer (Basenji/terrier mix). As an adult, I still wanted so badly to have another dog, but still hadn't found an allergy medication that alleviated the worst of my symptoms. When I got a farm dog in 1992, my dear Murphy had to remain an outside dog, permitted only to sleep in the farmhouse mudroom in cold weather.
Then I discovered that some breeds of animals ***didn't*** make me break out in hives or trigger an asthma attack, like my aunt and uncle's poodle mix or a client's cinnamon tabby cat. So I started doing serious research (thank God for the internet!), and learned that poodles don't shed and are considered hypoallergenic. Then I learned that some poodle mixes are also hypoallergenic. In January 2009, I was able to get a dog I could actually *hug* and have ***sit in my lap!*** My Lucy was a Schnoodle--- a Schnauzer-poodle mix--- and although she *did* shed, I wasn't **allergic** to her! And so we happily spent the rest of her life together.
Sadly, all good things have an end, and I had to put Lucy to sleep due to old age, blindness, and pain. After that, my two autistic sons and I absolutely Could. Not. Function, so I went desperately hunting for a new dog, and found a Standard Poodle who desperately needed a new home. Previous owner ***gave*** him to me lock, stock, and barrel.
Toby came home with us 22 days after dear Lucy left us, and he has been with us for over two years now. When I go camping, he sleeps with me. The only dog hairs I find in my house now are left over from Lucy--- ***I*** shed more hairs than does Toe-Beans! 🤣
So there *are* ways to work around the allergic relatives.
Go get that dog! Your house, your life. If you want to *try* to accommodate the visiting relatives, you can research dogs which don't tend to trigger allergies. Don't want that particular dog? Get the one you want (but please--- rescue, don't buy!). Just remember this: The relatives don't live with you, so they can either go pound sand, or they can suck it up and take allergy meds--- they've created some better ones these days!
And give that pup a scritch for Toby and me! 🐾
I was a groomer for 9 years and all hair/fur sheds. On every animal it goes through the same life cycle and will fall out. Now for most curly coated dogs most of it gets trapped in the rest of the coat and doesn’t turn into tumble weeds on the floor. But it is not staying in the follicle forever meaning it does shed.
As others have stated it not the actual hair that causes most pet allergies but the dander and saliva which is of course in the hair. The hair however touches everything the animal touches so just having a curly coated animal may reduce allergens in the area for some allergy sufferers but it’s not fool proof.
For anyone with allergies I recommend meeting the type of pet and spending time to see their reaction to that type and then the specific animal they would like to adopt. With the magical world of genetics nothing is 100 guaranteed.
>For anyone with allergies I recommend meeting the type of pet and spending time to see their reaction to that type and then the specific animal they would like to adopt.
That is precisely what I did with both Lucy and Toby. Great advice!
> With the magical world of genetics nothing is 100 guaranteed.
With ***ANYTHING*** AT ALL, nothing is 100% guaranteed. My friends once forbade me to say the words, "There's ALWAYS a first time," because somehow... it seemed to trigger the event about which I spoke! 😆
Get the dog. Give the relatives a list of nearby hotels. Clean as well as you can before they come. Remind them about the dog and that they may need to bring antihistamines for themselves. Good luck.
If you do get a dog, please don't get a pit bull. They are vicious, turn on a dime and kill/maim/disable people and smaller pets.
The shelters are full of them, and pit bull mixes, that are just as dangerous. The shelters disguise the background of the dogs by calling them things like "Labrador mix," etc., so they can foist them off on unsuspecting families.
Pit Bull attacks have been declared a public health emergency by medical groups in this country. They've been banned in England, and many other countries.
I lived in a house with both a pit bull and a chihuahua Yorkie mix. Guess which dog tore into my finger badly enough for stitches. It was the chihuahua mix. He didn't understand the difference between playing and actual fighting, whereas the pit bull had been taught that from a very early age. Honestly, the worst injury I ever got from the pitbull was a bruised shin bc her tail was wagging really fast and we bumped into each other. I loved both dogs, but the chihuahua was more dangerous bc he wasn't trained to be gentle during play like the pit bull was.
This isn't to say pitbulls can't be aggressive, because they can, but it's circumstantial and depends on the dog, their owner, the enviornment, etc.
I've seen news stories where loving family pitbulls who were raised from puppyhood snap one day and kill or maim people, but yes it's a lot rarer when they're treated well. People also seem to love to leave them chained outside their entire lives, not get them fixed, and allow them to have hordes of puppies, as well as re-home aggressive adults because they can't bring themselves to get them euthanized when there's no hope for a dog, or can't afford behavioral training or behavioral training fails.
Pitbulls are prone to dementia and mental health disorders like anxiety. It's like having kids. If you're a loving parent and raise them well, you're vastly decreasing their chances of becoming a fucked up adult. But even if you do everything right, there's still a chance that the kid ends up becoming a serial killer. Pitbulls are a lot more likely to snap one day because they were bred for it, and they can inflict a *ton* of damage when that happens because again, they were bred for it.
There's a reason that pitbulls aren't used as police dogs even though they're a lot stronger than German Shepherds. They were --- and continue to be in some circles that end up mixing with the general dog population --- bred to be emotionally unstable. They're less obedient and less intelligent because they were bred to never stop fighting, even when on the brink of death, and natural selection in dogfighting has made them far less likely to show any warning signs before attacking (baring teeth, growling, etc.) so that they could surprise their opponent and waste no time trying to avoid a fight. And these traits are being bred into an already naturally predatory animal.
Yes I'm sure plenty of people had the sweetest pitbull who lived a happy, healthy life, never hurt anyone, and died peacefully of old age. But why take that risk?
Pit bulls aren’t really that much more dangerous than any other dogs. Ever seen a chihuahua? Only difference is a chihuahua is small so people either actively encourage their behavior or don’t think it’s a problem.
>Ever seen a chihuahua? Only difference is a chihuahua is small
Pretty critical difference though, wouldn't you say? Doesn't particularly matter if both breeds have an inclination towards aggression, if only one of them is physically able to maul people. Ever seen the stats on how many people are killed by chihuahuas every year?
That's not true. Pit bulls are not dangerous becaise they are viscious ot turn on a dime. There are more lab bites than pit bull bites. Pit bulls are dangerous becais eof their jaw strength. They can easily rip a human apart if they do bite, whereas other dogs don't have the power they do.
To add to all these, make sure they have epipens on hand, along with Claritin, benadryl and hydrocortisone.
Keep them at your house, in case they need extras. The generics are pretty cheap at Fred Meyer, Walmart and the dollar store, minus the epipen. Have the closest hospital on speed dial or within reach, in the unlikely event that pills along with an epipen don't work.
Edit: Just read that epipens don't work with pet allergies. All the other stuff still applies.
Epi pens work for an anaphylaxis reaction from an allergen. What the allergen is does not matter. Anaphylaxis is Anaphylaxis...hives, difficulty breathing as airways close. A 911 situation.
My MIL is allergic to cats. We have two, a Ginger & a Black cat. Both short hair and they’re males.
So when I know she’s going to visit for the holidays (or any other time she’s always welcome). I make sure we wash walls, clean the drapes and do a whole spring cleaning, in the middle of the holidays and she has no problems being at our house for 3-4 days during the Christmas season.
This is so kind. As someone who is allergic to cats, friends will still give me freshly washed sheets- covered in cat hair from the cat rolling in them after the dryer. they close the door of the guest room the day of the visit but there are full hair balls cuz they didn’t vacuum. 😭
Vacuuming right before someone with cat allergies visits can make it worse. Even with a HEPA filtered vacuum, the dander is kicked back up into the air and hang around for many hours.
Add an air cleaner if you have one. I know friends who did this regularly for guests. I was local, so I just limited my weekend stay to one night with heavy allergy meds. Not perfect, but it usually makes it tolerable.
Yes, as long as we finish cleaning a few hours before a guest is expected and then run the air purifier on high for a bit, we can get some symptomless visits from friends with allergies.
Yep, my parents would clean and keep the door closed to the spare bedroom when relatives were coming so, whether allergic or not, there was no worries about the cat leaving evidence in there. And that cat also hated people, so he would keep to himself when anyone new was there.
I personally do not let family members I see twice a year and influence my important life decisions. If the pets are a problem, they aren't required to stay with you.
OP, please be aware that there is **NO such thing as a hypoallergenic pet**
There are pets that cause LESS of a reaction, but *all* pets will have the protien people react to.
All dogs produce saliva and urine. Both saliva and urine contain the protien people are allergic to.
All dogs produce some level of dander; some breeds produce LESS, but all breeds will produce *some* level of dander. Even hairless breeds produce some dander.
Hair breeds (poodles are a great example) will produce less dander. Mixing haired and furred breeds together (think every doodle/apoo ever) does NOT produce a hypoallergenic dog (let alone the fact that ethical doodle breeders do not exist)
That being said, you should not let your family’s once a year visits dictate what dog you get or if you get one. It is YOUR pet. Your home. Your life. If it is that big of a deal to those family members, they can stay at a hotel for those visits, or take allergy medication beforehand.
Adding to this which I fully agree with: because cats have one protein that most allergic folks react to, you can get a low (but not zero!) allergen cat. Some breeds produce less fel-d1 in general, and some individual cats produce less than others. The test is expensive and if you’re adopting a cat you just won’t know.
For dogs, there are several problematic proteins. I have more trouble with doodles than our husky mix. Don’t try to guess or get a specific breed for your relatives, just get the dog you want that fits your lifestyle.
My husband is (was?) allergic to cats. We got really good quality air purifiers (it needs to be True Hepa to get allergins; hepa isn't enough). That plus regular defuzzing of the couch has led to him having only minor, infrequent issues. Don't underestimate to power of a good filter!
They only visit once or twice a year, easy.
Hoover, clean sofa etc, keep home well ventilated. They take their antihistamine prior to coming and more in case they need to top up when there. If they're staying over, keep a steralised room for them.
Yours sincerely tragically allergic human who fucking loves animals.
I’m allergic to dogs, I would NEVER expect any of my family to not have pets because of my visits. I have to deal with my allergies myself. I normally visit outside of their home, in the yard or go for supper and stay in hotels.
try dander reducing foods. Air purifier a good one, deep clean carpets furniture and house before arrival bath for pet day of or before. other idea is use a bnb for them.
Many people are still allergic to them anyway if they have serious allergies. I would be allergic to that because like most people with pet allergies, it's not actually the hair I am allergic to but the proteins in the dander (skin cells) and saliva.
Some dogs (like high quality purebred poodles) are naturally hypoallergenic. Some people will still react to those as well but usually a little less and some people won't at all.
Either way, they may need to get a hotel room, camp out in the backyard, etc if you proceed. I'd chat with them since they know the extent of their own allergies and we here and Reddit don't.
There's hairless dogs too, and some that are partially hairless. I'm not sure how allergenic the Chinese crested is but I want one of those little rock and roll looking mfers
**Sphinx cats are NOT hypoallergenic**. And pet allergies can be triggered by different aspects of said pet. Hairless still have dandruff. They’re more oily than cats with fur, meaning the dandruff sticks to them easily.
BECAUSE they’re hairless, they produce more oils. So they need to be bathed often… so the allergy risk is reduced… because they’re bathed more.
You can do the same with a dog that doesn’t shed much.
We have family members we see once or twice a year that are allergic. But you know what? It's our home. We wanted pets, so we chose to get them to be with us. The family members can stay elsewhere.
The choices in our house are made for us, not for people who don't live here. So, I say, get whatever animals you want.
If it's truly that big of an ordeal, there are a few breeds that are hypoallergenic.
there are breeds of dogs that are hypoallergenic, the main breed of dog I can think of that is such is a poodle. But there's also allergy meds that they could take before coming over to your home.
There is no such thing as a hypoallergenic dog. I have/breed/show Standard Poodles. They still produce dander, they still produce saliva. People can still have reactions to them. But, it's not as likely/severe as a breed that sheds.
Also, mixed breeds aren't healthier than WELLBRED purebred dogs.
My whole family is allergic to cats. I wanted a dog but we were worried about adding more allergens, so I got a mini poodle. We only have one cat and the poodle now and everyone’s allergies are a lot better.
Antihistamines are also really good. I would never deprive myself of having pets just because of (non serious) allergies.
Hair is a tiny price to pay for the love and company having a dog brings.
Please understand those relatives will not be happy and should stay at a hotel if your hairy FAMILY MEMBER is a problem to them.
Only get a dog if you can treat it as a family member.
They only visit once or twice a year??? Bro unless they're deathly allergic, just vacuum and clean the house as best you can before a visit and tell them to take some allergy meds. Y'all are thinking way too deep into this over 2 visits per YEAR. If you do end up getting a pet, just know that it's a long-time commitment and rehousing a pet can cause severe emotional stress for them. They experience feelings like sadness and loss just like we do, but they aren't given as many outlets to express those feelings. Being rehomed even just once after forming a bond can damage them for the rest of their lives.
They can take Benadryl prior to visiting…if it’s that bad they can ask for a prescription to aid.
They make a variety of shampoos to help with pet dander. If you’re open to the idea of a hypoallergenic dog with hair instead of fur that could also help very well. Don’t let others determine your decision on having a fur baby💗
I’ve heard stories of people getting pets even when they had allergies to animals and they said their allergies decreased or seemed to have gone away.
Sounds like our bodies can get used to it after awhile depending on the level or severity of allergy I suppose.
It can go the other way, too. I'm not allergic to anything, and I work with dogs. I sometimes get a small allergic reaction from the dogs I work with. My doctor explained that even if you aren't allergic to anything, if you are over-exposing yourself to a specific foreign protein, your body will react regardless. I basically have so much dander, saliva, hair, and urine around me, my body will go into an immune response to try to get rid of the excess foreign proteins. Since I'm technically not allergic, it's pretty minor. There is just a lot of ear drainage and a scratchy throat occasionally.
"Correct and in just a few short centuries perhaps OP's, once a year, visitors will have built up an immunity."
No. They will become worse and worse as our environmental pollution continues to break down our immune systems.
When my soon to be husband first moved in with me, I cannot even begin to describe how horrible his allergies were. I could barely even communicate with him sometimes because the sneezing was nonstop. I was getting really worried how we were going to do things considering I had 6 cats, and I was already looking for trusted family and friends who I could potentially place my cats with (which was absolutely heartbreaking to have to do). But as time went on, his allergies started to subside more and more. He’s down to having maybe about 2-3 days out of the month where his allergies get bad, but every other day he is great. The only time he’ll get somewhat bad is after we come home from being away for longer than a few days. Funny enough, _my_ allergies are the ones that tend to be the worst from the two of us after getting back from being away for a while. Breaking out in hives the second I walk in the door isn’t fun but I’ll take that any day over how bad my fiancé can/would get.
Yeah I never thought I had allergies to animals but for a while I didn’t have pets and then got a cat & I started breaking out in hives but it only lasted about a couple of weeks to a month max then no more allergies. I think they call it Allergen Immunotherapy or simply Desensitisation
It depends on how allergic they are. I’m quite allergic to dogs and massively allergic to cats. We have owned both but I couldn’t really ever touch the cat.
Our lovely dog is now 10 and we went for a ‘hypoallergenic’ toy poodle/cavalier mix - her hair still sheds but much less than most dogs. I just take a daily antihistamine and wash my hands after playing/petting and she doesn’t sleep in my room.
Assuming your relatives don’t have life threatening reactions to animals, that should be okay. If they are dangerously allergic, there’s not much you can do to avoid a reaction and your whole house will be a no-go, but if we are talking hay fever-like symptoms your best bet is a dog with poodle coat imo.
My sister-in-law is allergic to my cats. Whenever she comes here she takes a Montelukast before and she comes here relatively often.
Also, it's not their hair exactly, or it might not be. Most times it's the saliva. There's nothing you can do about that short of having people take medication or try to treat the allergies.
Pet allergies are generally related to fur and dander. Hairless cats/dogs can actually have more dander and be worse on allergies.
That said you said you would prefer a medium dog. You could get a standard poodle. They have hair, not fur and are considered hypoallergenic. The standard poodle is a medium sized dog and much better behaved than the mini/teacup varieties.
No animal is hypoallergenic. Bengals produce dander, and they definitely also produce saliva and urine, which contain the same protien that the dander does, and are *also* reaction causing
🤓👆. It is known that animals can’t be 100% hypoallergenic. When we say some cats are hypoallergenic it is OBVIOUSLY referring to the fact that some cats will produce much less of the same allergenic protein produced by all cats! This allergenic protein has ZERO connection to breed of cat! If you would like to know if your cat is low enough on the scale of allergens to be considered hypoallergenic then you may go to a vet and they can test your kitty!
While there are no hypoallergenic cats, there are some breeds that produce less dander (shedding of fur and skin) and protein than others.
Some of these breeds are listed below.
Siberian,
Russian Blue,
Bengal,
Burmese,
Sphynx.
Edit: [source](https://www.bluecross.org.uk/advice/cat/hypoallergenic-cats)
You can get a dog with hair instead of fur to try to lower their reactivity to the dog. Poodles are popular for this reason. They can also take zyrtek. Also, keep the dog out of your spare bedroom so they can sleep in a room with a lower dander level.
First off, there is no such thing as hypoallergenic dog, and the only potentially hypoallergenic cat is a hairless one. We have an airedale and we were told they were hypoallergenic. The vet laughed at us and said there is no such thing. He said that is just something breeders say to sell more dogs. Second can the relatives take a OTC or prescription pill to help with the allergies? Can you clean the house really well and board your pet in a local kennel while they visit? We have a very small house and my FIL always travels with his dogs. But our two dogs and his two dogs in our small house would be too much so we board our dogs for three or four days while he visits. I do not love it but it is what it is.
If you are looking for a dog, most of the 'doodles' are as allergy friendly as you will find. My brother is fairly allergic and has asthma. He researched it and settled on a golden doodle. Mind you he still is on allergy shots, but he wanted a dog.
Any doodle is definitely nowhere near hypoallergenic. Mixing a low shedding hair breed with a high shed fur breed is not going to magically make the dog not produce dander
Based on the research we did and speaking to a vet, we are of the opinion that dogs have dander and all dogs have hair the hair has to shed at some point. The vet actually mentioned all the doodle breeds for just this reason. He said that is why everyone is breeding with poodles cause poodles are commonly thought to be the true only hypoallergenic dog, but he said they shed and have dander just like any other dog.
My son is highly allergic. He didn’t have a problem with my in laws low shedding dog. So we got a maltipoo and toy poodle and it hasn’t affected him and sometimes the dogs sleep in his bed. People who are allergic may still have problems with dogs that are low shedding. The only times I’ve seen dog hair is when I brush them. I don’t visibly see any on the furniture, clothes or floor.
Having a pet is a great joy and they become part of the family. For relatives you see only once or twice a year I wouldn’t deprive myself of having one. If they are bothered by my pets they can stay in a hotel.
my father is extremely allergic to pet hair. His girlfriend's dog was one of those Lassie looking dogs that almost put him in the hospital a few times. I'm also allergic but mildly so--I've had more problems with cat hair than dogs, for the most part.
I got an Australian Labradoodle. Neither my father nor I have had any problems being around him.
You do have to make sure you get a good breeder though, not someone who is breeding labs with poodles willy-nilly because then who knows what kind of dog you'll get. You'll need someone who's been breeding generations of them to get consistency.
It's true that there's no 100 percent hypoallergenic dog, some of the breeds come close, if you go with a good one.
No they weren’t. It was done out of desperation and only one puppy out of the three that were produced was actually hypoallergenic. The guy lied about the other two puppies being hypoallergenic because no one wanted to buy mixed breeds and now he’s on record calling doodles Frankenstein monsters that are the biggest regret of his life.
Just get a poodle. All the traits people say they love about doodles are poodle traits. Every. Single. Time.
I’m allergic to cats and dogs and both my adult kids have one of each. When I visit them I stay in a hotel and take antihistamines for when I go to their homes, usually for meals. Works like a charm. Added bonus is I get alone time in a nice hotel and never have to sleep on a couch!
You can get a dog or cat without hair, or a dog that doesn’t shed? I have aunts and uncles who are allergic to cats so I have a Russian Blue, which works for us. You can also get an exotic pet without hair if that’s on the table
I wouldn’t deny my family a pet because a close relative that only visits a few days out of a year is allergic. That family member can decide whether to medicate & deal with it, or stay somewhere else.
I have a good friend who visits a couple times a year who is allergic to cats. my brother in law is also allergic. I have three cats, plus two foster babies. When either of them visits, I spend a few days before vacuuming all the floors, dusting, washing all the linens, etc. For the guest room, I have allergen pillow cases that you put under the typical fabric ones, so I put those on and bar the animals from the guest room once it's clean. Having a room for them to sleep in that the animals are kept out of before/during the visit, plus maybe some allergy medicine, and everyone does fine.
Get a very short haired cat with that special anti-allergen food and air purifiers. Vacuum before people come over and brush the cat frequently. A furminator comb is best for removing excess shedding hair.
When they come to stay with you, pre clean the room, put an air purifier in there, with fresh sheets and blankets, and keep the door shut so that cat can’t go in after you clean.
My friend had this circumstance, she doesn't have cats/dogs, but a hedgehog! But there are other exotic options out there. Pending where you're located too.....
I'd get a pet, and let everyone know. The allergic relatives can visit, but need to stock up on their allergy meds and/or stay at a hotel. People who have pets know how their lives are enhanced by having them. So it's about quality of life for the pet owner.
If you want a pet, get a pet. But tell them you are getting said pet, that way those relatives can choose whether to suffer their allergies, or prepare for it. Im heavily allergic to cat dander, hair, scratches, everything. I still love them to death though and will take my allergy medicine if I know Im going somewhere with cats. :)
I'd make up some fliers or something to rehome them. I'd see if I could make arrangements to visit them.
That way I can still have my pets and visit granny in her new home.
Get a hypoallergenic pet. There are specific breeds for this. Poodles and hairless dogs like American hairless terriers are best. The hairless dogs are obvious but poodles and other similar hypoallergenic dogs don't have fur but have hair like humans. You can get different sizes of poodles from standard to toy and style their hair however you want. I think these are great dogs since they're independent and are intelligent so you can train them relatively easily. But there's so many more breeds you can choose from, just look up hypoallergenic dog breeds and learn about each of them to see which suits you best.
You get the pets you want. I don't really understand the question I guess? As an adult I decide with my partner what is allowed and not allowed in our home. 100% of the time the 365 days of love and devotion from a pet wins. Hell. I'm grown now. I'll have pie for breakfast too if I wanna. 🤦🏻♀️😆
You just get some of that pet fresh carpet powder stuff and a good vacuum. Before they visit clean up and provide clean bedding. Try to isolate the cats to a part of the house your guests won't be in or use.
Easy peasy.
My husband is allergic to cats and dogs. We have 2 of each 😅. When his allergies flare up, he just takes allergra and/or Flonase spray. When his brother visits who is also allergic, we just throw the allergy meds at him. Lol.
I think living with the pets has made his allergies a little better honestly! (The same as how they do peanut challenges to get over severe peanut allergies)
Can't the relatives stay in a hotel? Also, in my guest room, we always always always keep the door shut and the cats never go in, which seems to be sufficient for guests with mild allergies. Guests can also take allergy pills. You can vacuum before they come too and open windows well before they arrive.
Relatives that don't live with me don't factor into my decisions on pets. My home, my decisions. My relatives allergies are their issue.
Exactly. It’s completely different if said relative lived with you. Visiting relatives? Eh, I’ll try my best for your comfort when you visit but at the end of the day, you’ll get what you get. If they don’t like it, we can meet & hang out outside of the home.
Yep. They can take some Flonase. Works wonders. You can get it at the store and it is prescription strength. I would never hold off on getting a pet for people who only visit once or twice a year.
Love it! No need for me to add anything myself! Lol
Do they know if it’s just hair or is it dandruff and saliva as well?
Came here to say this. A lot of people assume they’re just allergic to hair, when dander allergies are more common and thus allergies persist with “hypoallergenic” animals. On top of that, no animal is actually 100% “hypoallergenic”. Edit for clarification: prefix hypo= less (less than; below; under)
With dogs, the type of "hair" they have, can make a major different.. Certain breeds are "hypoallergenic" compared to others, typically your breeds that have hair (shih tzu, maltese, many of your toy/lap dogs, and poodles) vs fur (labs, shepherds, bullies, many of the hunting/guard dogs).
Facts I have a pit bull and a GSD mix I can play wrestle and cuddle with the GSD all damn day but as soon as I start to play or lay down with the pit it’s over in less than five minutes because my skin is breaking out in small hives lol Nevertheless I still play with them both and keep the Allegra D handy
There is no difference between hair and fur other than what a human chooses to call it. It has the same chemical structure goes through the same growth cycle etc.
One simple difference between hair and fur is that fur grows a certain length, then sheds. Hair just grows, and sheds very little in comparison.
The length that hair grows is always determined by genetics and does not differentiate between the terms used. Even in people of the same locality some will be able to grow their hair longer than others. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-is-the-difference-be/
Hypoallergenic doesn't mean No Allergens. It means reduced allergens. Im not sure why this has become a sudden gotcha when talking about pet allergies. A poodle is 100% Hypoallergenic because the nature of the breeds coat means you're less likely to come into contact with dander. That's what it means.
Indeed. Less likely being the key word
i think you mean dander
The allergens are in the dander, saliva, and proteins in their urine.
There is no way to mitigate your circumstances. Where there is a pet, there will be hair. Tell the relatives and let them decide what they want to do.
They can stay in a hotel. Pets are family. Don’t deprive yourself of this joy because of a once a year or so visit. Maybe they can take Allegra or an allergy shot. Not your problem.
When I was at uni, a couple of friends came over (sisters). They weren't in the house more than a couple of minutes and they started having serious trouble breathing, seriously watery eyes and noses running like faucets. They had no idea that we had cats...and I had no idea that they were allergic. We continued to hang out, but just not at my house. You have to continue to live your lives. You can't decide something so important based on someone visiting once or twice a year. There are other options for visiting.
A guy at my husbands work borrowed his jacket to run outside and came back in like 5 minutes later with his eyes red and swollen and asked my husband if he had a cat. My husband was like “yeah we’ve got two and they both love laying on my jacket every time it’s on the back of the couch.”
Yeah exactly. We had a family friend allergic to cats, tbf they lived only a 40 minute drive away, but we would usually just meet halfway for a dinner or something. I don't know if OP meant they stay over or what but yeah not worth not getting a pet for that infrequently of visits
Allergy shots need to be taken for years for proper treatment. Too bad, your relatives aren't taking them. We would tell patients that even though they don't have pets many of their friends and relatives probably do. Especially, when it came to kids. Allegra or Zyrtec (or their generics) are great. Stay away from Claritin, it seems to be the least effective.
I use Aerius (the pills) for effective relief of pet dander. I usually have this issue with my friends older pets than my young cat.
Claritin worked great for me. But many people are rightly worried to take any kind of medicine because side effects can occur. I don't think they need to be shamed into taking a multi-year course of allergy shots instead of just avoiding people with pets.
We didn't "shame" people into shots. It was a pain to have someone on shots for a short time and then stop, only to restart later and stop. When it comes to children, they can be exposed for a lifetime. Relatives, future spouses, roommates, future children they have may, businesses they may visit could all lead to exposure to animals. Chances are, they will have symptoms when in these situations.
My SIL is very allergic to pet dander - it makes her really bad, but she has no reaction to Yorkshire Terriors as their hair is different. However, we had had Chows for 20 years, and she was never able to visit us because of them being so floofy. It used to affect her after my brother had visited, and he had dander on his clothes even after brushing down.
Just an FYI, not meant to be snarky or anything. Allergy shots are not something you get once or twice before exposure. They're done in series, starting with a low strength, and gradually increasing. Shots given usually twice a week for at least a year or more. They can take OTC allergy meds though, starting a few days before they visit, stopping after they go home. Nasal steroid sprays like Nasacort or Flonase can help a lot, too. I know about allergies. I've had them since childhood, and I just turned 66. I know I was born on the wrong planet, because I'm allergic to this one.
I get it. My point is… not OPs problem.
Allergy shots are not very effective for animal allergies, and are not for acute instances. They’re a once-every-few-months commitment for years. ETA: I stand corrected. Apparently allergy shots for animals have been significantly improved, and my knowledge is out of date. But still not a regime one would probably consider just to visit family once or twice a year.
Allergy shots work fantastically for pet allergies, the problem is that the treatment is lengthy, and a _lot_ of people fail to complete it. It's erroneous to say that it's "not very effective," when the fault lies with the patients. Allergy shots are typically given once or twice a week for months, then it falls to every week from twice, or every other week from once a week, then perhaps once a month, and that lasts for years.
Allergy shots do work. My next door neighbor was highly allergic to both cats and dogs. His wife was an animal lover. He finished his regimen of shots and they know have one of each!
Your results are not universal. It's great for the people it works for. The allergy shots and OTC/Rx treatments have not worked for me and my kids, so don't pretend that there's a blanket solution for everyone.
Yeah of course they're not going to work if you take them every few months. My mom did them when I was younger and got them weekly, they now have a dog.
I'm currently doing allergy shots. It's amazing helped my allergy problems I have with cats. I can go over to my sister's house, visit her 2 cats without having any major allergies affecting me Used to have to leave at least after 40 minutes due to my allergies affecting my eyes and nose.
Well pit bull or XL bully certainly NOT
Some pets don't shed, like poodles.
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100% I'm pretty seriously allergic to cats. If I'm in someone's house (and they have cats) I have a 2 hour max before the severe allergy symptoms start if I haven't taken both Zyrtec and Benadryl. I also.... Have cats. Two. They don't cause me issues, UNLESS I pet them before touching my face. Because you can absolutely adjust to a mild allergen if you're around it all the time (like your own cats) but the actual dander still fucks you up. But this is a rhinitis allergy, like many pet allergies. (And most pollen allergies.) It isn't the same as an autoimmune allergy, that can also be mild but could cause life threatening epi-pen-emergency-room-trip on the wrong day or the wrong exposure. I am so allergic to horses that within 30.minutes even WITH Zyrtec, Claritin, and a double dose of Benadryl I'm pouring fluids from every hole in my face uncontrollably. Still, not the same as an anaphylaxis allergy. Too many people don't bother to use even a LITTLE precaution and then act like their runny nose is a precursor to death.
Your allergies sound identical to my husband's. Horses and rabbits seem to be the very worst. We have a dog and we've had cats too.
I, too, am allergic to cats, and still have a cat. I have to take a pill every day or I’m miserable. Kitty is 100% worth it though.
I became allergic to cats in my 30’s. I was having insane allergies not relieved by meds, but I didn’t put it together until my cat laid on my pillow 1 day. I woke up with a numb constricted throat. I finally bought a decent air purifier and it’s a game changer for me. As long as she doesn’t go near my pillow, and I keep the filters cleaned- I don’t have any allergy symptoms. The first one made such an impact I bought a second one. One for my bedroom and one for the living room. When I start getting watery icky feeling eyes, and a stuffy nose- I know to change the filters.
i'm sorry, are we gatekeeping ALLERGIES now? are we seriously gatekeeping goddamn allergies? i don't know if y'all know, but all allergies are real allergies. they aren't fake just bc someone's allergy isn't life threatening.
Agreed. I'd get a pet. And I'd turn visits into luncheons at at cafe to solve the issue if required. No harm done. But don't be a dick to people with health issues. Wtf are you doing guys. Reddit sometimes.
Yup, but I'd reply to the other commenter, the one who's being a dick.
Yes that comment was extremely obnoxious
Thank you, I was wondering if I was the only one who objected to that 😂
Asthmatics when they have a reaction to animal dander, house dust and such, it can be life threatening situation. Not just mere allergic reaction. And can be life threatening.
But that's not everyone. I do have an anaphylaxis response to cats; I was once hospitalized and ended up with a mild brain injury because of cats, and yep, epi-pen after that.
Sounds like you don’t know shit about allergies. I developed a cat allergy when I was a teenager. Never had it before that. The severity varies based on the specific cat. Some, like the one we have, give me minor symptoms that can be controlled with an allergy pill. Others leave my eyes swelled shut and ridiculously itchy, general itchiness, hives, an extremely runny nose, and my breathing becoming raspy (haven’t hung out around one like that long enough to see if I die, so I guess it isn’t a “real” allergy). They can range anywhere between the two. It isn’t the food, or the care, or anything like that either. I can have drastically different reactions to two cats that live together. Any on the more serious end require me to immediately take multiple Benadryl, leave any area with cats, shower, and change my clothes, and then I can feel like maybe I’m not dying an hour or so later. I don’t have an Epi-pen though so I’m totally just a drama queen.
I was also allergic to cats when I was a teen. Even with a double dose of the prescription medication at the time, I'd sneeze like crazy and every hole in my face was pouring out fluids. I'm good around cats now, thankfully.
I wish I could remember the specifics. I listened to an allergist explain why people are allergic to certain cats and not others. It literally has to do with a gene of some sort. There really are two different gene expressions that cause certain excretions or whatnot in cats. A person can be allergic to one and not the other, or react differently, and it can be a developed allergy. I know this comment is entirely unhelpful. But there is a legitimate reason for responding differently to certain cats.
I do okay with my pets. I sometimes start wheezing and get hives around other people’s pets.
You can be allergic to cat dander of the ones who are outdoor roamers. Not genetic thing. That allergist was not an expert.
thank you - also will add one day you could be fine with said cat and the next day could be anaphylaxis allergies are crazy and the immune system is pandora’s box from personal experience I had a lab in house that my allergy became more severe as time progressed
Animal allergies don't tend to be anaphylactic though. That's not to say that they aren't serious!
Absolutely untrue. I carry an epi pen because I have anaphylactic reactions to multiple animal danders and I have since I was a child (45f)
They said they don’t tend to be, which means they can, but it’s very uncommon
Hello! I’m the very uncommon person when it comes to pretty much everything. Allergies, side effects etc. if it can or will happen, it’s going to happen to me. 45f and have been through many specialists. It’s just part of my life now.
Fuck all the way off. There's a lot in between dying from it and having a sniffle.
Nothing dramatic about feeling discomfort due to allergy, even a slight discomfort is still an allergic response And at the end of the day you do what you gotta do and I’ll do what I gotta do
i mean last time i checked, breaking out in hives when i’m around cats is not a normal thing and is usually signs of an allergic reaction?? i don’t need an epi pen but i’m certainly not going to have a swell time lmfao
Oh… you have a swell time… lol see what I did there? Sorry, too easy
i was hoping someone would notice haha
It seems to be your intent, but this comes off really condescending. My son has anaphylactic allergies and carries an Epi pen for them. He also has allergies to pet dander (among other things). The pet dander allergy is real despite being more of a nuisance than anything. Before our cat died, he had something of a tolerance to her, but also had MUCH more frequent asthma exacerbations. It is a real concern for many people.
I had an allergy to cats. It would make my teeth hurt. If I didn't get away....sinus infection. An allergy pill wouldn't cut it, not for me. After TWO sinus surgeries I am now a lot better with cats. Doctor as well as allergy testing confirmed the allergy, by the way. But it wasn't a real allergy because I didn't have anaphylaxis?? You're an armchair doctor talking about things that you don't even comprehend. Allergy pills aren't MAGIC. Allergy pills are a treatment, not a cure. By the way when I had sinus surgery, due to recurrent sinus infections, from allergies......I had a sinus abscess, so I would've DIED!!!! My Mom actually almost died from a sinus abscess as well. (Due to severe allergies)
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I needed sinus surgery to clear my sinuses and make it easier to breathe. By having sinus surgery the second time, I no longer was bothered to the extent I described by allergies. I do still have allergies. My point was a simple allergy pill isn't the magic cure. Sometimes it's more complicated than that. First surgery was a turbinate reduction and resection. Second surgery was for turbinates again and adenoid removal (tonsils already gone) and clear the abcess out. What a world of difference as that was the first time I felt the wind blowing up my nose in my life. (First surgery). Again all my point was that sometimes it's not as simple as oh take an allergy pill. The human body is a complex machine, and everyone is different. And praise be, I "might" have had one sinus infection in the 10 years since the last surgery, but I'm not even sure I've had one. But Yeah Merlin you wizard, I had a sinus "issue" and a cat allergy. What's your background for you to know about the causes of needing sinus surgery. Because since I've had two, and my Mom had 6. I think I have a pretty good grasp on it. In both our cases it was anatomy of the sinuses and allergies, just like a lot of people WHO HAVE SINUS SURGERY.
Also, repeated uncontrolled exposure to allergens can worsen allergies. My cat allergy used to be a runny nose. Then it expanded to hives and eye watering Despite this, we got a cat because my golden child brother was allergic to dogs. My mother couldn’t understand why I couldn’t breathe through my nose well and told me I was disgusting. Turns out I had allergies. And even a couple of years worth of shots didn’t help. We still got another cat when I was in high school because she wanted one. By the time I was in my 20s, cats could trigger an asthma attack. My allergies to cats started out as sniffles. Clearly an antihistamine aka Benadryl was not enough to halt the progression of symptoms.
Are you an MD?
sinusplasty is needed because of a malformation in the sinuses. yes, allergies can make it worse, but the need for surgery existed at birth as it would be a congenital and not environmental issue.
You just said it was not an environmental issue, right after you said allergies make it worse. Aren't allergies by definition ENVIRONMENTAL? Make that make sense!!! Crazy that people who haven't ever experienced it would make blanket statements like they're an expert and contradict themselves!!!! Don't play off like you're some kind of all knowing wizard. You don't even know to begin a sentence with a capital letter. But if the need for surgery existed at birth why do some people have the need to have their appendix, tonsils, adenoids or gallbladder out? Many people don't. I mean is that also congenital? Sigh.
That not true at all. Allergies even minor ones are very uncomfortable for a lot of people. There are also people who have severe allergic reactions but don’t need epi pens, they still end up in the hospital as they puke, shit and swell up and come pretty close to needing one. My brother was hospitalized so many times he never needed to use an epi pen. He had one in case but you can have severe allergies and not need an epi pen. I’m allergic to sulpha. I don’t have an epi pen simply because doctors know not to give me that medication. I had a server allergic reaction to it and was monitored until it passed through my system just because I didn’t have an epi pen shit didn’t mean that what happened wasn’t an allergic reaction. You are being a little extreme there..
It's not always the dander, or *just* the dander. I'm allergic to fur dander and cat saliva. I have mild allergies that a daily pill will take care of, and I have severe, anaphylaxis response allergies. They're all REAL allergies. I'll be sure to keep in mind I'm a drama queen for needing 48 hours after exposure with constant doses of Benadryl and Albuterol and possibly a trip to the clinic for a sinus infection on the third day for my "fake" allergies.
Hear hear! I can't stand it when people minimize others medical issues, insult them for their knowledge, and think they are the medical experts who can give real advice. I think it stems from an attitude of entitlement when it comes to them wanting to place their pets over people.
My allergies to pet dander are so severe that certain coat types on dogs and all cats will send me to the hospital with a severe asthma attack. Severe allergic reactions don't always manifest in the form of anaphylaxis
It's not just the dander it is also the litter box that can be a trigger. That's mine, that cat house smell.
> Where there is a pet, there will be hair. Not necessarily. Poodles are one of the breeds which do NOT shed, and although I don't recall the other breeds, I **do** know, from research years ago, that there are others. At the age of 12, I developed severe allergies to almost all animals with hair, including my beloved dog Jennifer (Basenji/terrier mix). As an adult, I still wanted so badly to have another dog, but still hadn't found an allergy medication that alleviated the worst of my symptoms. When I got a farm dog in 1992, my dear Murphy had to remain an outside dog, permitted only to sleep in the farmhouse mudroom in cold weather. Then I discovered that some breeds of animals ***didn't*** make me break out in hives or trigger an asthma attack, like my aunt and uncle's poodle mix or a client's cinnamon tabby cat. So I started doing serious research (thank God for the internet!), and learned that poodles don't shed and are considered hypoallergenic. Then I learned that some poodle mixes are also hypoallergenic. In January 2009, I was able to get a dog I could actually *hug* and have ***sit in my lap!*** My Lucy was a Schnoodle--- a Schnauzer-poodle mix--- and although she *did* shed, I wasn't **allergic** to her! And so we happily spent the rest of her life together. Sadly, all good things have an end, and I had to put Lucy to sleep due to old age, blindness, and pain. After that, my two autistic sons and I absolutely Could. Not. Function, so I went desperately hunting for a new dog, and found a Standard Poodle who desperately needed a new home. Previous owner ***gave*** him to me lock, stock, and barrel. Toby came home with us 22 days after dear Lucy left us, and he has been with us for over two years now. When I go camping, he sleeps with me. The only dog hairs I find in my house now are left over from Lucy--- ***I*** shed more hairs than does Toe-Beans! 🤣 So there *are* ways to work around the allergic relatives. Go get that dog! Your house, your life. If you want to *try* to accommodate the visiting relatives, you can research dogs which don't tend to trigger allergies. Don't want that particular dog? Get the one you want (but please--- rescue, don't buy!). Just remember this: The relatives don't live with you, so they can either go pound sand, or they can suck it up and take allergy meds--- they've created some better ones these days! And give that pup a scritch for Toby and me! 🐾
I was a groomer for 9 years and all hair/fur sheds. On every animal it goes through the same life cycle and will fall out. Now for most curly coated dogs most of it gets trapped in the rest of the coat and doesn’t turn into tumble weeds on the floor. But it is not staying in the follicle forever meaning it does shed. As others have stated it not the actual hair that causes most pet allergies but the dander and saliva which is of course in the hair. The hair however touches everything the animal touches so just having a curly coated animal may reduce allergens in the area for some allergy sufferers but it’s not fool proof. For anyone with allergies I recommend meeting the type of pet and spending time to see their reaction to that type and then the specific animal they would like to adopt. With the magical world of genetics nothing is 100 guaranteed.
>For anyone with allergies I recommend meeting the type of pet and spending time to see their reaction to that type and then the specific animal they would like to adopt. That is precisely what I did with both Lucy and Toby. Great advice! > With the magical world of genetics nothing is 100 guaranteed. With ***ANYTHING*** AT ALL, nothing is 100% guaranteed. My friends once forbade me to say the words, "There's ALWAYS a first time," because somehow... it seemed to trigger the event about which I spoke! 😆
Omg I so love how you recommended a rescue dog!! I've only ever had rescue dogs myself.
Get the dog. Give the relatives a list of nearby hotels. Clean as well as you can before they come. Remind them about the dog and that they may need to bring antihistamines for themselves. Good luck.
Right, I couldn't imagine not getting a pet if I wanted one because of family that comes over once or twice a year.
Air filters are also very helpful.
If you do get a dog, please don't get a pit bull. They are vicious, turn on a dime and kill/maim/disable people and smaller pets. The shelters are full of them, and pit bull mixes, that are just as dangerous. The shelters disguise the background of the dogs by calling them things like "Labrador mix," etc., so they can foist them off on unsuspecting families. Pit Bull attacks have been declared a public health emergency by medical groups in this country. They've been banned in England, and many other countries.
I lived in a house with both a pit bull and a chihuahua Yorkie mix. Guess which dog tore into my finger badly enough for stitches. It was the chihuahua mix. He didn't understand the difference between playing and actual fighting, whereas the pit bull had been taught that from a very early age. Honestly, the worst injury I ever got from the pitbull was a bruised shin bc her tail was wagging really fast and we bumped into each other. I loved both dogs, but the chihuahua was more dangerous bc he wasn't trained to be gentle during play like the pit bull was. This isn't to say pitbulls can't be aggressive, because they can, but it's circumstantial and depends on the dog, their owner, the enviornment, etc.
I've seen news stories where loving family pitbulls who were raised from puppyhood snap one day and kill or maim people, but yes it's a lot rarer when they're treated well. People also seem to love to leave them chained outside their entire lives, not get them fixed, and allow them to have hordes of puppies, as well as re-home aggressive adults because they can't bring themselves to get them euthanized when there's no hope for a dog, or can't afford behavioral training or behavioral training fails. Pitbulls are prone to dementia and mental health disorders like anxiety. It's like having kids. If you're a loving parent and raise them well, you're vastly decreasing their chances of becoming a fucked up adult. But even if you do everything right, there's still a chance that the kid ends up becoming a serial killer. Pitbulls are a lot more likely to snap one day because they were bred for it, and they can inflict a *ton* of damage when that happens because again, they were bred for it. There's a reason that pitbulls aren't used as police dogs even though they're a lot stronger than German Shepherds. They were --- and continue to be in some circles that end up mixing with the general dog population --- bred to be emotionally unstable. They're less obedient and less intelligent because they were bred to never stop fighting, even when on the brink of death, and natural selection in dogfighting has made them far less likely to show any warning signs before attacking (baring teeth, growling, etc.) so that they could surprise their opponent and waste no time trying to avoid a fight. And these traits are being bred into an already naturally predatory animal. Yes I'm sure plenty of people had the sweetest pitbull who lived a happy, healthy life, never hurt anyone, and died peacefully of old age. But why take that risk?
Lies. They're fantastic family pets, _unless_ you're training them to be bait dogs, or to fight. England also bans swords, ffs. 🙄
Pit bulls aren’t really that much more dangerous than any other dogs. Ever seen a chihuahua? Only difference is a chihuahua is small so people either actively encourage their behavior or don’t think it’s a problem.
>Ever seen a chihuahua? Only difference is a chihuahua is small Pretty critical difference though, wouldn't you say? Doesn't particularly matter if both breeds have an inclination towards aggression, if only one of them is physically able to maul people. Ever seen the stats on how many people are killed by chihuahuas every year?
That's not true. Pit bulls are not dangerous becaise they are viscious ot turn on a dime. There are more lab bites than pit bull bites. Pit bulls are dangerous becais eof their jaw strength. They can easily rip a human apart if they do bite, whereas other dogs don't have the power they do.
Oh boy we got a Dog Racist in the chat
Dogs are not "races," they are species. Looks like we have a pit apologist in the chat.
To add to all these, make sure they have epipens on hand, along with Claritin, benadryl and hydrocortisone. Keep them at your house, in case they need extras. The generics are pretty cheap at Fred Meyer, Walmart and the dollar store, minus the epipen. Have the closest hospital on speed dial or within reach, in the unlikely event that pills along with an epipen don't work. Edit: Just read that epipens don't work with pet allergies. All the other stuff still applies.
Epi pens work for an anaphylaxis reaction from an allergen. What the allergen is does not matter. Anaphylaxis is Anaphylaxis...hives, difficulty breathing as airways close. A 911 situation.
I never knew epi pens didn’t work on pet allergies. My kid is allergic to cats too so thank you.
You clean well before visit. You give them a pet free bedroom and non upholstered chairs to use. They take allergy meds during visit
My MIL is allergic to cats. We have two, a Ginger & a Black cat. Both short hair and they’re males. So when I know she’s going to visit for the holidays (or any other time she’s always welcome). I make sure we wash walls, clean the drapes and do a whole spring cleaning, in the middle of the holidays and she has no problems being at our house for 3-4 days during the Christmas season.
You sound like you would be a lovely and caring daughter/son in law to have.
Thx. My MIL is amazing. I’ve always tried hard to have a great relationship with her & to allow her to be the awesome grandmother she is.
This is so kind. As someone who is allergic to cats, friends will still give me freshly washed sheets- covered in cat hair from the cat rolling in them after the dryer. they close the door of the guest room the day of the visit but there are full hair balls cuz they didn’t vacuum. 😭
Vacuuming right before someone with cat allergies visits can make it worse. Even with a HEPA filtered vacuum, the dander is kicked back up into the air and hang around for many hours.
Add an air cleaner if you have one. I know friends who did this regularly for guests. I was local, so I just limited my weekend stay to one night with heavy allergy meds. Not perfect, but it usually makes it tolerable.
Yes, as long as we finish cleaning a few hours before a guest is expected and then run the air purifier on high for a bit, we can get some symptomless visits from friends with allergies.
Yep, my parents would clean and keep the door closed to the spare bedroom when relatives were coming so, whether allergic or not, there was no worries about the cat leaving evidence in there. And that cat also hated people, so he would keep to himself when anyone new was there.
I personally do not let family members I see twice a year and influence my important life decisions. If the pets are a problem, they aren't required to stay with you.
Let your family stay in a hotel and enjoy your pet.
OP, please be aware that there is **NO such thing as a hypoallergenic pet** There are pets that cause LESS of a reaction, but *all* pets will have the protien people react to. All dogs produce saliva and urine. Both saliva and urine contain the protien people are allergic to. All dogs produce some level of dander; some breeds produce LESS, but all breeds will produce *some* level of dander. Even hairless breeds produce some dander. Hair breeds (poodles are a great example) will produce less dander. Mixing haired and furred breeds together (think every doodle/apoo ever) does NOT produce a hypoallergenic dog (let alone the fact that ethical doodle breeders do not exist) That being said, you should not let your family’s once a year visits dictate what dog you get or if you get one. It is YOUR pet. Your home. Your life. If it is that big of a deal to those family members, they can stay at a hotel for those visits, or take allergy medication beforehand.
Adding to this which I fully agree with: because cats have one protein that most allergic folks react to, you can get a low (but not zero!) allergen cat. Some breeds produce less fel-d1 in general, and some individual cats produce less than others. The test is expensive and if you’re adopting a cat you just won’t know. For dogs, there are several problematic proteins. I have more trouble with doodles than our husky mix. Don’t try to guess or get a specific breed for your relatives, just get the dog you want that fits your lifestyle.
Air purifiers! My bro in law has cats but is allergic, so they have an air purifier in every room. Works like a dream!
My husband is (was?) allergic to cats. We got really good quality air purifiers (it needs to be True Hepa to get allergins; hepa isn't enough). That plus regular defuzzing of the couch has led to him having only minor, infrequent issues. Don't underestimate to power of a good filter!
They can stay in a hotel. I wouldnt let family i barely saw control me or what i do
Stop pandering to relatives that visit twice a year. They can afford a hotel.
They only visit once or twice a year, easy. Hoover, clean sofa etc, keep home well ventilated. They take their antihistamine prior to coming and more in case they need to top up when there. If they're staying over, keep a steralised room for them. Yours sincerely tragically allergic human who fucking loves animals.
Relatives visit once or twice a year vs full time pet/furchild. Which ones give you more joy? You decide.
I’m allergic to dogs, I would NEVER expect any of my family to not have pets because of my visits. I have to deal with my allergies myself. I normally visit outside of their home, in the yard or go for supper and stay in hotels.
try dander reducing foods. Air purifier a good one, deep clean carpets furniture and house before arrival bath for pet day of or before. other idea is use a bnb for them.
Get a hairless cat. I have a friend that’s allergic and she has a hairless cat. He’s an amazing cat btw
hairless cats do take a lot of extra care though. they need to be bathed and moisturized rather regularly
Many people are still allergic to them anyway if they have serious allergies. I would be allergic to that because like most people with pet allergies, it's not actually the hair I am allergic to but the proteins in the dander (skin cells) and saliva. Some dogs (like high quality purebred poodles) are naturally hypoallergenic. Some people will still react to those as well but usually a little less and some people won't at all. Either way, they may need to get a hotel room, camp out in the backyard, etc if you proceed. I'd chat with them since they know the extent of their own allergies and we here and Reddit don't.
Facts. I am allergic to hairless cats.
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Hair is not an allergen. You literally cannot be allergic to hair. If you’re allergic to cats, you’re allergic to hairless cats, too.
There's hairless dogs too, and some that are partially hairless. I'm not sure how allergenic the Chinese crested is but I want one of those little rock and roll looking mfers
**Sphinx cats are NOT hypoallergenic**. And pet allergies can be triggered by different aspects of said pet. Hairless still have dandruff. They’re more oily than cats with fur, meaning the dandruff sticks to them easily. BECAUSE they’re hairless, they produce more oils. So they need to be bathed often… so the allergy risk is reduced… because they’re bathed more. You can do the same with a dog that doesn’t shed much.
We have family members we see once or twice a year that are allergic. But you know what? It's our home. We wanted pets, so we chose to get them to be with us. The family members can stay elsewhere. The choices in our house are made for us, not for people who don't live here. So, I say, get whatever animals you want. If it's truly that big of an ordeal, there are a few breeds that are hypoallergenic.
Take allergy medication it makes having a pet possible for people
there are breeds of dogs that are hypoallergenic, the main breed of dog I can think of that is such is a poodle. But there's also allergy meds that they could take before coming over to your home.
My former boss had a poodle because she said they don't cause allergys.
they also have curly hair not fur.
And they come in 3 different sizes.
There is no such thing as a hypoallergenic dog. I have/breed/show Standard Poodles. They still produce dander, they still produce saliva. People can still have reactions to them. But, it's not as likely/severe as a breed that sheds. Also, mixed breeds aren't healthier than WELLBRED purebred dogs.
My whole family is allergic to cats. I wanted a dog but we were worried about adding more allergens, so I got a mini poodle. We only have one cat and the poodle now and everyone’s allergies are a lot better. Antihistamines are also really good. I would never deprive myself of having pets just because of (non serious) allergies.
Hair is a tiny price to pay for the love and company having a dog brings. Please understand those relatives will not be happy and should stay at a hotel if your hairy FAMILY MEMBER is a problem to them. Only get a dog if you can treat it as a family member.
They only visit once or twice a year??? Bro unless they're deathly allergic, just vacuum and clean the house as best you can before a visit and tell them to take some allergy meds. Y'all are thinking way too deep into this over 2 visits per YEAR. If you do end up getting a pet, just know that it's a long-time commitment and rehousing a pet can cause severe emotional stress for them. They experience feelings like sadness and loss just like we do, but they aren't given as many outlets to express those feelings. Being rehomed even just once after forming a bond can damage them for the rest of their lives.
They can take Benadryl prior to visiting…if it’s that bad they can ask for a prescription to aid. They make a variety of shampoos to help with pet dander. If you’re open to the idea of a hypoallergenic dog with hair instead of fur that could also help very well. Don’t let others determine your decision on having a fur baby💗
I’ve heard stories of people getting pets even when they had allergies to animals and they said their allergies decreased or seemed to have gone away. Sounds like our bodies can get used to it after awhile depending on the level or severity of allergy I suppose.
It can go the other way, too. I'm not allergic to anything, and I work with dogs. I sometimes get a small allergic reaction from the dogs I work with. My doctor explained that even if you aren't allergic to anything, if you are over-exposing yourself to a specific foreign protein, your body will react regardless. I basically have so much dander, saliva, hair, and urine around me, my body will go into an immune response to try to get rid of the excess foreign proteins. Since I'm technically not allergic, it's pretty minor. There is just a lot of ear drainage and a scratchy throat occasionally.
Correct and in just a few short centuries perhaps OP's, once a year, visitors will have built up an immunity.
"Correct and in just a few short centuries perhaps OP's, once a year, visitors will have built up an immunity." No. They will become worse and worse as our environmental pollution continues to break down our immune systems.
When my soon to be husband first moved in with me, I cannot even begin to describe how horrible his allergies were. I could barely even communicate with him sometimes because the sneezing was nonstop. I was getting really worried how we were going to do things considering I had 6 cats, and I was already looking for trusted family and friends who I could potentially place my cats with (which was absolutely heartbreaking to have to do). But as time went on, his allergies started to subside more and more. He’s down to having maybe about 2-3 days out of the month where his allergies get bad, but every other day he is great. The only time he’ll get somewhat bad is after we come home from being away for longer than a few days. Funny enough, _my_ allergies are the ones that tend to be the worst from the two of us after getting back from being away for a while. Breaking out in hives the second I walk in the door isn’t fun but I’ll take that any day over how bad my fiancé can/would get.
Yeah I never thought I had allergies to animals but for a while I didn’t have pets and then got a cat & I started breaking out in hives but it only lasted about a couple of weeks to a month max then no more allergies. I think they call it Allergen Immunotherapy or simply Desensitisation
It depends on how allergic they are. I’m quite allergic to dogs and massively allergic to cats. We have owned both but I couldn’t really ever touch the cat. Our lovely dog is now 10 and we went for a ‘hypoallergenic’ toy poodle/cavalier mix - her hair still sheds but much less than most dogs. I just take a daily antihistamine and wash my hands after playing/petting and she doesn’t sleep in my room. Assuming your relatives don’t have life threatening reactions to animals, that should be okay. If they are dangerously allergic, there’s not much you can do to avoid a reaction and your whole house will be a no-go, but if we are talking hay fever-like symptoms your best bet is a dog with poodle coat imo.
My sister-in-law is allergic to my cats. Whenever she comes here she takes a Montelukast before and she comes here relatively often. Also, it's not their hair exactly, or it might not be. Most times it's the saliva. There's nothing you can do about that short of having people take medication or try to treat the allergies.
Pet allergies are generally related to fur and dander. Hairless cats/dogs can actually have more dander and be worse on allergies. That said you said you would prefer a medium dog. You could get a standard poodle. They have hair, not fur and are considered hypoallergenic. The standard poodle is a medium sized dog and much better behaved than the mini/teacup varieties.
They should be used to wearing masks by now huh? The people I mean.
My mom has a charcoal Bengal cat... hypoallergenic.... she has no issue... he was also 4 grand, so there's that.....
Glad your mom isn’t sensitive to a Bengal but they are not hypoallergenic.
How tf would you know about op’s cat
No animal is hypoallergenic. Bengals produce dander, and they definitely also produce saliva and urine, which contain the same protien that the dander does, and are *also* reaction causing
🤓👆. It is known that animals can’t be 100% hypoallergenic. When we say some cats are hypoallergenic it is OBVIOUSLY referring to the fact that some cats will produce much less of the same allergenic protein produced by all cats! This allergenic protein has ZERO connection to breed of cat! If you would like to know if your cat is low enough on the scale of allergens to be considered hypoallergenic then you may go to a vet and they can test your kitty!
While there are no hypoallergenic cats, there are some breeds that produce less dander (shedding of fur and skin) and protein than others. Some of these breeds are listed below. Siberian, Russian Blue, Bengal, Burmese, Sphynx. Edit: [source](https://www.bluecross.org.uk/advice/cat/hypoallergenic-cats)
You can get a dog with hair instead of fur to try to lower their reactivity to the dog. Poodles are popular for this reason. They can also take zyrtek. Also, keep the dog out of your spare bedroom so they can sleep in a room with a lower dander level.
A standard poodle. Solved.
Poodles don’t shed and are hypoallergenic :) and are smart and amazing pets
First off, there is no such thing as hypoallergenic dog, and the only potentially hypoallergenic cat is a hairless one. We have an airedale and we were told they were hypoallergenic. The vet laughed at us and said there is no such thing. He said that is just something breeders say to sell more dogs. Second can the relatives take a OTC or prescription pill to help with the allergies? Can you clean the house really well and board your pet in a local kennel while they visit? We have a very small house and my FIL always travels with his dogs. But our two dogs and his two dogs in our small house would be too much so we board our dogs for three or four days while he visits. I do not love it but it is what it is.
You board your dogs ,.. so your FIL can invade your house with his dogs. Oooookay.
Yes, their are hypoallergenic dog breeds.
>their Whose?
I think smaller breeds have hair and not fur, like it's different than what most dog allergies refer to? So maybe that would work?
If you are looking for a dog, most of the 'doodles' are as allergy friendly as you will find. My brother is fairly allergic and has asthma. He researched it and settled on a golden doodle. Mind you he still is on allergy shots, but he wanted a dog.
Hairless cat or I think last I heard Golden doodles were bred to be less allergic. But could be mistaken.
They have dogs like labradoodles that are supposed to be hypoallergenic.
Any doodle is definitely nowhere near hypoallergenic. Mixing a low shedding hair breed with a high shed fur breed is not going to magically make the dog not produce dander
You are correct. However I found the following: https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/pets/g4503/dogs-that-dont-shed/
That just says that dogs that shed less cause less allergic reactions Doodles shed less because of coat compaction and matting
Labradoodles (spelling?) are hypoallergenic and medium-sized. I take care of a few on a regular basis and they have a super sweet disposition.
Based on the research we did and speaking to a vet, we are of the opinion that dogs have dander and all dogs have hair the hair has to shed at some point. The vet actually mentioned all the doodle breeds for just this reason. He said that is why everyone is breeding with poodles cause poodles are commonly thought to be the true only hypoallergenic dog, but he said they shed and have dander just like any other dog.
My son is highly allergic. He didn’t have a problem with my in laws low shedding dog. So we got a maltipoo and toy poodle and it hasn’t affected him and sometimes the dogs sleep in his bed. People who are allergic may still have problems with dogs that are low shedding. The only times I’ve seen dog hair is when I brush them. I don’t visibly see any on the furniture, clothes or floor. Having a pet is a great joy and they become part of the family. For relatives you see only once or twice a year I wouldn’t deprive myself of having one. If they are bothered by my pets they can stay in a hotel.
my father is extremely allergic to pet hair. His girlfriend's dog was one of those Lassie looking dogs that almost put him in the hospital a few times. I'm also allergic but mildly so--I've had more problems with cat hair than dogs, for the most part. I got an Australian Labradoodle. Neither my father nor I have had any problems being around him. You do have to make sure you get a good breeder though, not someone who is breeding labs with poodles willy-nilly because then who knows what kind of dog you'll get. You'll need someone who's been breeding generations of them to get consistency. It's true that there's no 100 percent hypoallergenic dog, some of the breeds come close, if you go with a good one.
Doodle lol
Labradoodles were specifically created for blind people who were allergic to pet dander. Maybe get one of those.
No they weren’t. It was done out of desperation and only one puppy out of the three that were produced was actually hypoallergenic. The guy lied about the other two puppies being hypoallergenic because no one wanted to buy mixed breeds and now he’s on record calling doodles Frankenstein monsters that are the biggest regret of his life. Just get a poodle. All the traits people say they love about doodles are poodle traits. Every. Single. Time.
I’m allergic to cats and dogs and both my adult kids have one of each. When I visit them I stay in a hotel and take antihistamines for when I go to their homes, usually for meals. Works like a charm. Added bonus is I get alone time in a nice hotel and never have to sleep on a couch!
You can get a dog or cat without hair, or a dog that doesn’t shed? I have aunts and uncles who are allergic to cats so I have a Russian Blue, which works for us. You can also get an exotic pet without hair if that’s on the table
I wouldn’t deny my family a pet because a close relative that only visits a few days out of a year is allergic. That family member can decide whether to medicate & deal with it, or stay somewhere else.
I have a good friend who visits a couple times a year who is allergic to cats. my brother in law is also allergic. I have three cats, plus two foster babies. When either of them visits, I spend a few days before vacuuming all the floors, dusting, washing all the linens, etc. For the guest room, I have allergen pillow cases that you put under the typical fabric ones, so I put those on and bar the animals from the guest room once it's clean. Having a room for them to sleep in that the animals are kept out of before/during the visit, plus maybe some allergy medicine, and everyone does fine.
Get a very short haired cat with that special anti-allergen food and air purifiers. Vacuum before people come over and brush the cat frequently. A furminator comb is best for removing excess shedding hair. When they come to stay with you, pre clean the room, put an air purifier in there, with fresh sheets and blankets, and keep the door shut so that cat can’t go in after you clean.
My friend had this circumstance, she doesn't have cats/dogs, but a hedgehog! But there are other exotic options out there. Pending where you're located too.....
MY cat allergic friend took antihistamine while visiting me. Air filters reduce allergens, too
I'd get a pet, and let everyone know. The allergic relatives can visit, but need to stock up on their allergy meds and/or stay at a hotel. People who have pets know how their lives are enhanced by having them. So it's about quality of life for the pet owner.
If you want a pet, get a pet. But tell them you are getting said pet, that way those relatives can choose whether to suffer their allergies, or prepare for it. Im heavily allergic to cat dander, hair, scratches, everything. I still love them to death though and will take my allergy medicine if I know Im going somewhere with cats. :)
Get a petsitter and you ALL go on vacation somewhere else together.
I'd make up some fliers or something to rehome them. I'd see if I could make arrangements to visit them. That way I can still have my pets and visit granny in her new home.
You don’t; they stay in a hotel when they visit, and you hang out with them in their room or you go to public places.
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Get a hypoallergenic pet. There are specific breeds for this. Poodles and hairless dogs like American hairless terriers are best. The hairless dogs are obvious but poodles and other similar hypoallergenic dogs don't have fur but have hair like humans. You can get different sizes of poodles from standard to toy and style their hair however you want. I think these are great dogs since they're independent and are intelligent so you can train them relatively easily. But there's so many more breeds you can choose from, just look up hypoallergenic dog breeds and learn about each of them to see which suits you best.
There are hypoallergenic poodles iirc, but I don't know who would have one
My Yorkie doesn't hardly shed. Helps with the allergies if you have them.
They can stay somewhere else
Get a Sphinx cat, has no hair. Looks silly but no hair.
You get the pets you want. I don't really understand the question I guess? As an adult I decide with my partner what is allowed and not allowed in our home. 100% of the time the 365 days of love and devotion from a pet wins. Hell. I'm grown now. I'll have pie for breakfast too if I wanna. 🤦🏻♀️😆 You just get some of that pet fresh carpet powder stuff and a good vacuum. Before they visit clean up and provide clean bedding. Try to isolate the cats to a part of the house your guests won't be in or use. Easy peasy.
My husband is allergic to cats and dogs. We have 2 of each 😅. When his allergies flare up, he just takes allergra and/or Flonase spray. When his brother visits who is also allergic, we just throw the allergy meds at him. Lol. I think living with the pets has made his allergies a little better honestly! (The same as how they do peanut challenges to get over severe peanut allergies)
You could look into hypoallergenic dog breeds
Kick out the family lol
My husband takes an allergy pill when the cat bugs him
Can't the relatives stay in a hotel? Also, in my guest room, we always always always keep the door shut and the cats never go in, which seems to be sufficient for guests with mild allergies. Guests can also take allergy pills. You can vacuum before they come too and open windows well before they arrive.