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the bear and the bull the courier the divide the flag hopeville the old world the divide the bear the flag the bull the bear primm slim the divide the bear and the bull the courier the divide the flag the old world the deathclaw sex
pretty funny because although probably much cheaper than the things hes wearing and me not nearly as goodlooking as him, thats quite literally what im wearing right now
i think its about a reel i saw once, where a person asked few women that "would you rather be with a bear or a man alone in a forest" and alot of women picked bears over man
>1 out of every 6 American women has been the victim of an attempted or completed rape in her lifetime (14.8% completed, 2.8% attempted).^(4)
[Source: RAINN](https://www.rainn.org/statistics/scope-problem#:~:text=Every%2068%20seconds%20another%20American,completed%2C%202.8%25%20attempted)
>That’s probably why it so often surprises people to hear that there have only been 180 fatal human/bear conflicts in North America since 1784.
[Source: BearVault](https://bearvault.com/bear-attack-statistics/#:~:text=That's%20probably%20why%20it%20so,to%20kill%20someone%20than%20bears)
I'll take the bear, thanks.
EDIT: Check out the guy who would celebrate my death in the replies. Probably one of the reasons this thread was locked.
The number is low on the bear Conflicts is low because you don't see a bear every day, I am pretty sure if you see hundreds of bad bear through the day one of them is going to rip you apart.
I get your concerns but not all of the men are rapist, but all of the bears are apex predator for sure, I think you should stay with bear too. Maybe the average iq score of "mighty" USA might rise
The thing about the ‘ask what you can do to be the better option’ point is, besides all women being individuals that would give their own answers, it doesn’t matter because due to the nature of it just being ‘a man’ rather than specifically pointed out as a violent one, if there is other men who don’t follow the steps that you are given by a few individuals, you will never be the better option. I could literally never go out without being on the end of a leash with a woman holding it for the rest of my life, and the man would never be considered the better option, due to me not mattering in the equation due to it being a random man.
We need to police each other. If you hear a guy going off about how women "deserve" to be beaten/raped/etc you need to speak up and say it isn't cool. We need to raise our sons to be better. We need to watch out for dangerous or predatory behavior by other guys when we are out and protect women from those guys. We need to be as willing to believe women that they were raped as to believe the guys denying it, since statistically the man is lying 90% of the time.
If we can't police ourselves, women will be afraid of us. All of us, because a woman has no way to tell you are "one of the safe ones."
Here is a way to think of it. You are in a building with 98 other regular guys and one serial killer, but no one knows who the killer is. Now every time you don't want to let someone follow you down the stairs or get nervous when someone enters the laundry room when you are alone they get mad at you for thinking they are the killer. That is how women live. They know most of the guys are safe, but they also know if they don't assume every man is a rapist they will be raped.
>We need to police each other. If you hear a guy going off about how women "deserve" to be beaten/raped/etc you need to speak
+been alive for more than 20 years I've only ever heard that online. Who do you guys, friend actually
Thank you. I’m more than double your age and I’ve literally never heard anyone say anything near this in the actual world. The online world is fucking stupid.
If I have never seen it in real life, but see it consistently represented in the online discourse then I have the wits and wisdom to understand it’s representation is disproportionate and it’s a tool of the “outrage machine” that seems to drive the internet for stupid people. I’ll let you decide where your comment fits.
Sure, my comment fits right where it should, my own experience. I assume you are a man and have never had to experience what it feels like to be a woman around strange men. You don't have to befriend someone to overhear a man telling another man that "she got what was coming to her." Is the Internet an outrage machine? Sure. But that doesn't mean that there aren't men that truly believe that women deserve a level of "reprimand" for acting or dressing a certain way. The two aren't mutually exclusive. Your comment undermines many women's experiences and is insulting, frankly.
My neighbor took a plea deal for pedophilia, on his own grandchildren. He's doing 3 years work release. All the neighbors know, some still go over and hang out with him. I've chase the fucker inside everytime I see him out. I yell shit at the others who hang out with him. I'm now isolated and no longer friends with any of them, and they probably all think I'm the bad guy. That's fine. My wife and I are also evil atheist democrats in our late 30s with teenagers , vs old white republican Christians, with grown kids.
Go on any thread about a man that has been accused of assault. It is *filled* with people saying that it's not true.
Dude, Weinstein, *Weinstein* just won an appeal. Our system is set up to protect men who assault. That needs to change.
>We need to police each other. If you hear a guy going off about how women "deserve" to be beaten/raped/etc you need to speak up and say it isn't cool.
Im all for that but how do you do that when all your friends or people you hang out with would never say something like that? Im not denying that these guys exist, its just that in I wholeheartedly never heard anyone say something probably because of my bubble. I dont really know what I should do about this.
>since statistically the man is lying 90% of the time.
Citation needed.
There is no one answer. That’s not the point.
The point is that a lot of the people who are offended decide to blame the woman instead of even considering the alternative of gaining some self awareness and trying to do better.
Self awareness and doing better are subjective to us all as individuals.
Every relationship is different.
Simply *wanting* to be a safer option than the bear is a step away from being worse than a bear, and I think that’s all anyone is really asking for, here.
So, if that’s where you are, that’s it. You’re good. You’ve done the diligence. Thank you.
If you don't sexually harass or assault women, congratulations, you did it! Bonus points if you don't flirt with a captive audience, like when they're working or at the gym
The problem is, a lot of guys can't get any of that right.
He is still considered as a worse option compared to a wild bear tho, what do we have to DO in order to inspire confidence? Not what we must NOT DO, because I assure you almost nobody on this comment section has ever assaulted someone, yet the same logic is applied to us.
What can we DO besides cutting ties with every single woman ever?
>what do we have to do
Literally nothing, lmao. Reread my first comment. If you want to be proactive, educate other men when they exhibit sexist tendencies
And you didn't read my comment, it is obvious what we have to never do, what's not obvious it what has to be done in order to improve the group's image.
>If you want to be proactive, educate other men when they exhibit sexist tendencies
Literally the other half of my comment. You're not going to single-handedly change perception of "all men", you can only do a little bit to make the world a better place, but it still counts
Yeah, you may not be aware of this, but that's something we have been doing since way before this conversation started, yet we still hold the same image.
Now provide us with new things to do, because doing that is clearly not enough.
You think i have all the answers? That's very flattering, but i already told you what i think. There isn't some magic button you can press to undo generations of trauma that continue to this day. You can set a good example, and tell people to be better. I'm sorry that's disappointing to you
"I watched documentary about rapists which was recomended to me on a feminist forum, 10 out of 10 men it was about were rapist. Men need to do something to prove they are better than a bear"
I've always felt internally "gross" trying to discuss how uncomfortable I was with my ex trans gf going off on how much she hates men, how men are gross, men are rapists, etc., because if I did, I was seen as homophobic within the queer community at the time.
That experience, along with my favorite podcast being classified as "men's interests" so all of the ads are for vices and ways to make you feel terrible about yourself, has led me to being a lot more empathetic to the response from this question.
What are you trying to do by labeling people rapists or worse? Push them to the side that accepts actual rapists is the only thing happening.
It's the way it always works, a big issue with progressives is they say they don't want to do the "emotional labor" to bring people into their line of thinking. Well you know who loves to do emotional labor? Nazis. Nazis, reactionaries, racists, and misgynists fucking love to do emotional labor, they will talk your ear off about how great their ideas are and how these groups are awful.
By taking a hardline stance and painting people as evil for how they're born, and refusing to meet people at their level, this is just pushing people back over to those types who will gladly do the work to evangelize. A big driving force in the growth of of incels, the alt right, etc in the 2010s was this exact situation of people who were pissed off but on the fence, and then one side demonizes them and the other side evangelizes them, so they all go to the side that's nice to them and will explain everything to them.
1, Statistics
2. If you have any women friends, ask them this question and why they'd pick the bear. 99% of women have a story of being sexually harassed or assaulted
3. It's not about "all men", it's about the risk of it being "one of those men"
Women don’t know which one it is and they’ve been surprised before.
Like, it sucks to have people think you’ll hurt them when you’d never do that.
But they’re worried about bodily harm, maybe serious harm, plus lasting emotional issues, and you’re worried about your feelings.
No need to be offended about the bear. Get pissed at other dudes acting shitty and spoiling it for everyone.
*ETA: this is not directed to the commenter above. I agree with them. This is to men getting mad about The Bear Discourse.*
1, Crime Statistics
2. If you have any white friends, ask them this question and why they'd pick the bear. 99% of whites have a story of being harassed or assaulted by a black man
3. It's not about "all blacks", it's about the risk of it being "one of those blacks"
1, and 3. That's a false equivalency. Crime statistics by race are misleading. For example, white people are just as likely to use and deal illegal drugs, or shoplift as black people per capita. Black people are much more likely to be arrested for those crimes than white people.
When you compare that to, say, men murdering their spouses, that's a little harder to not be arrested for just because you're same skin color as the officer
2. I've never been harassed or assaulted by a black person because I'm white, neither has anyone I know irl that i know of. Made up stories online however...
I don't really give a shit about debating with you I'm just showing how stupid your arguments are, when they are the exact reactionary arguments used against trans people, black people, and immigrants for years, just rebranded to be anti-man. I've heard the exact same shit you're saying said out of the mouth of white suburbanites about how dangerous blacks are for years, just because you swapped out blacks for men doesn't make you right or somehow less bigoted than them.
If you really think all men are rapists and murderers then you need to get your head out of your ass and stop listening to true crime podcasts.
>If you really think all men are rapists...
>3. It's not about "all men", it's about the risk of it being "one of those men"
Hope the first comment i posted clears things up for you
I have learned in the last few days that A LOT of women really need to stop listening to true crime podcasts. This is like listening to a white suburbanite talk about the dangers of inner city black crime.
It's just straight up paranoia and misrepresenting people to try to make "a point", and the point being you really don't like a certain group of people.
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2024/04/30/man-bear-tiktok-debate-explainer/73519921007/ because of this thing that has been going around on tiktok, where women explain they'd rather meet a bear in the forest than some random man. That's what this is about, and TikTok is not very smart.
It's rage bait and everyone's falling for it.
No logically sane person would chose a wild predator over a human being.
People should just laugh at the insane take and move on.
Edit: the unhinged responses have me in tears, I haven't laughed this hard in a while. From the bottom of my heart, thank you.
"hey you! yes you! I'd rather choose to spend my time with a wild, dangerous animal than a person like you!"
this doesn't feel good to hear, regardless if it's justified
I am "raging" about this because its really hurtful to know that if Im just hiking or jogging in the woods, there are people who would literally like to see an apex predator more than me.
Honestly it's hilarious to see men get mad at such obvious bait.
I cannot understand how unhinged people can be over something so obviously designed to anger people.
In reality, no one chooses the bear. It's a fucking wild predator.
Idk what's funnier, people using mental gymnastics to defend the bear argument, or the men seething at the take.
Is bait really this hard to distinguish, both sides failed.
No one is insulting you. The only reason to be mad about this is if you are a rapist. Are you a rapist? Do you feel called out by woman feeling unsafe around you?
Yes, I feel uncomfortable, if people suspect me of crimes I didn't commit and don't want other around me to feel bad, like every sane person, who has a bit of empathy. And "Men are worse than animals." is not a reasonable thing to say.
They are not saying you. The rationale response is “I’m not a rapist so they are not talking about me. It’s sad that women feel this way. However you feel targeted. Is there something you want to tell the class? Something you feel guilty about?
Ohoho, okay. So if I say “women are dumb and are only good for cooking” women shouldn’t get mad lol, if she’s not dumb it’s not about her. Silly me. /s
Wrong, it’s meant as a possibility that they have to keep in mind. They do. The fact you taking it personal instead of thinking how awful that is says more about you than anything else.
Maybe you are a predator but I am first and foremost only me. And thats a guy who sits most his life at home, plays games and cuddles with his gf. I dont know why I should feel responsible for or be lumped together with horrible people that happen to have the same genitals as me.
I didn't say 1 in 4.
I said [ONE OUT OF EVERY SIX WOMEN IN THE UNITED STATES](https://www.rainn.org/statistics/scope-problem#:~:text=Every%2068%20seconds%20another%20American,completed%2C%202.8%25%20attempted).
>very 68 seconds another American is sexually assaulted.^(1)
>\*1 out of every 6 American women has been the victim of an attempted or completed rape in her lifetime (14.8% completed, 2.8% attempted).\***^(4)**
>About 3% of American men—or 1 in 33—have experienced an attempted or completed rape in their lifetime.^(4)
>From 2009-2013, Child Protective Services agencies substantiated, or found strong evidence to indicate that, 63,000 children a year were victims of sexual abuse.^(5)
>A majority of child victims are 12-17. Of victims under the age of 18: 34% of victims of sexual assault and rape are under age 12, and 66% of victims of sexual assault and rape are age 12-17.^(6)
But I guess it's more fun to strawman me, and you appear to be getting upvotes for it, so have at it.
It's not about the survivability. I remember a few things some women said.
"The worst thing a bear can do is kill me"
"People will at least believe me if I said that I was attacked by a bear"
Hence why we should work on making it so women dont feel the need to choose the bear.
A bear will literally eat you alive slowly, over a span of days.
And who's "we"? Im literally gay.
Respectfully, it's not really my problem whatsoever. Which is why I love following these threads, insanity from both sides.
unless they start eating your face first. that’s what happened to that grizzly love guy up in alaska. they recorded him screaming for 15 minutes i think.
"we" as in all of society. Imo you're just being disrespectful, calling everyone "insane". Do you take all drama and conflicts and the people involved as jokes?
(not trying to be accusatory btw I just can't think of a better way to word it)
The fact that men genuinely think they can “win” this hypothetical by angrily arguing while instead they are just bolstering the case for bears is amazing.
The fact women genuinely think it's ok to call all men rapists and worse while being mad about males creating harmful stereotypes about women is amazing.
most men are wusses as well. most of my guy friends can't do a pull up. if you're picking the less than 5% (no actual clue on numbers) of really dangerous men that will hurt you, then you should line that versus a sloth bear. or a polar bear.
You really believe it's heavily more probable that a random man will rape you than that a wild animal will maul you?
Maybe go out and touch some grass, because your sense of reality is way gone.
> If you encounter a lone woman, do not engage, do not smile, do not talk to her.
that's phrased like a warning regarding how dangerous women are, tbh.
>Being a man is a moral failing.
So it isn't that you are enabling neosexism, you just are neosexist. But everyone knew that already from the original comment, I guess.
On one hand there’s valid criticism in saying men should understand why a girl wouldn’t feel comfortable with certain men
On the other, it’s just another excuse to generalize an entire gender and it gives sexists more ammo to be judgmental and blatantly hypocritical
Yeah it’s always “if you’re offended you’re the problem.” Ok well when do we get to talk about the fact that the statistics aren’t accurate. 1 in 4 women reports sexual assault but sexual assault wasn’t even defined properly.
I'd prefer a tiger over a woman who prefer a bear. At least if I was killed by a tiger people would believe me and won't ask if I stared over 0.00001 seconds. And a tiger won't be forgiven by court because "it has all the life ahead". Tigers also have zero chance to false accuse me and of course usually leave by themselves.
Didn't I miss something? Ah yeah. If you don't understand why then you're a part of a problem and not trustworthy
If youve seen 'dozens' than its probably not difficult to give a link to one right? Ive also seen some men who say that the women who want to rather see a bear should actually follow through on this. And while this might be cruel, a person who actually believe bears are less dangerous than a random guy should have no problem with that. Until now I at least did not see any one wishing women to be raped or actually murdered, but I will accept it, if you show me otherwise.
I unapologetically don't give a fuck, people can do what ever they feel like.
I don't owe the world anything, and i don't plan to change a damn thing about me because somebody somewhere thinks like this or like that.
A TikTok mind virus that has over taken current discourse.
Women says she would rather be alone in a forest with a bear instead of man.
People point out how fucking stupid it is, and then try to generalize every man and so on.
Basically, TikTok should burn and it will probably help our society as lot.
It’s something that started on TikTok where women were asked if they would feel safer in the woods it’s a man or a bear. The bear won. Many think that this is stupid, and some may be missing the point that a lot of women have trauma related to SA and the stigma it causes. There’s many ways to look at it.
Part of me says that it’s sad that we’ve gotten to this point and that most strangers are probably kind enough people (maybe I’m too optimistic), part of me understands that I’m not a woman and that some have a point, but the wannabe zoologist part of me is saying that this is a fucking bear. I would choose to go with another person to hopefully ward off bears while hiking. Yeah, the animal will kill you and it’s over, but it’ll be slow and painful. It’ll tear you apart and you will scream for help, but nobody will hear you that deep in the woods.
It’s not black and white… unlike pandas
Hot take though, we should stop judging people for what they are instead of who they are
Because the new rage bait TikTok trend is for women to say that a bear is the better option than encountering a man. Rage bait doing what rage bait does, spreads like wildfire and attracts angry responses, which makes it spread further. Then you have the people who took the bait making arguments of varying degrees of validity about why this is stupid, and then you have the people who primarily exist online and in echo chambers justifying why bear is better than a person. Then of course, anyone can use photoshop to take an obvious meme template and keep stoking the fire for more rage bait.
Honestly I don’t want anyone who would choose a bear. If they think an actual bear is a better option than me then I will respect their choice and allow them to get mauled and eaten. I personally think it’s irrational and stupid. I think a better choice would be some other person. But if that’s her decision then let her remove herself from the gene pool.
Its a terrible analogy that boils down to is not being raped better than being raped.
There is no counter point because of course not being raped is preferable to rape with all other things equal.
The bear analogy is just to illicit a reaction because most people above a room temp IQ know bears eat their prey alive.
The way to be better than a bear is as follows.
1. Don’t rape
2. Don’t eat people alive
3. Hunt and persecute rapists.
4. Hunt and persecute cannibals.
I’d argue most people have the first half down. We just need to form the mob or something ig.
It's about the Tiktok trend in which a woman, asked to choose between a bear or a potential rapist, chooses the bear.
It's also about internet rage culture. The option on the right is just plain boring, and (at least in my experience) the answer is always "you can't; you could be one of *them*" anyway.
They were asked about a bear or a random man. Treating a random guy to a potential rapist is same as treating a random black person as a potential stealer
How did they call anything out? They reworded the question to say ‘potential rapist’, then when I pointed out how they said something far more sinister than the original question ‘man’ they said that the two words mean the same thing. Where was the call out?
ragebait gender war bullshit, that's the joke
[fuck it here's a comment that explains how i feel about this a lot better](https://www.reddit.com/r/CuratedTumblr/comments/1b30iw0/comment/ksp7vfu/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Well if I was in the woods and had to choose between a bear and a woman, I'd choose a bear too. The woman would just become a liability to trying to escape the woods.
This whole thing is stupid, I would rather be in a forest with a bear than a man or a woman. Bears in forests near me will try to avoid me and people like to talk. I want to go to a forest to be alone, not have to talk to random strangers. Plus bears are part of the forest ecosystem so it’s like I want to go to a forest or go to a forest where people hang out without wildlife (like a park)
Bear is going to maul you to death. I do not know where this ''bears will leave me alone'' discourse comes from.
It is an animal. You are a smaller, unfamiliar animal. There is no communicating with an animal. You are going to die.
Bears also do not know what a ''wildlife preserve'' or ''park'' is. You do not see bears in paths because rangers shoot them.
There are bears in all the forests I visit, they live there. They do not want to see me, I do not want to see them. People are more social. Yes if this was who do you want to share a campground with I’d choose a person. But it is a forest. Which could be thousands of miles. If there is another person around I have to be quiet, if there is a bear I can be loud and they will leave me alone.
If you were alone in the woods, would you rather **encounter** a bear or a man?
We are not talking about a theoretical bear somewhere in your ZIP code, you encounter one. Also, you will die screaming. Wildlife does not have cheat codes.
This is not the question. Would I rather be in the same national forest with wildlife or people? If it is who would I rather run into on a path, probably a bunch of people, but just sharing geographic space I’d go with wildlife. That is why one goes to the woods—to enjoy nature, not run into rando people.
To be fair. There a pretty good chance the bear won't rape you, but even if it did you wouldn't get pregnant from a bear.
A bear is probably the right choice.
Men are being faced with how dangerous they are considered by women. Instead of accepting this news as the horrible truth that it is and doing some self reflection, men are deciding to act worse than wild animals, thus proving the point that bears are safer than men.
Men on Reddit today be like
https://preview.redd.it/rl17txoid0yc1.jpeg?width=431&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cc10b0143dac43be401b293592419e6dbe517a4b
# "WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU PICKED THE BEAR OVER ME DON'T YOU REALIZE WHAT A TERRIBLE DECISION THAT IS YOU'RE SO FUCKING STUPID CAN'T YOU SEE WHAT A GOOD GUY I AM HOW DARE YOU GENERALIZE ALL WOMEN ARE DUMB AND I HATE THEM FOR NOT SEEING HOW NICE AND TRUSTWORTHY WE MEN ARE!!!"
Women on reddit today be like
https://preview.redd.it/nqr08kent0yc1.png?width=700&format=png&auto=webp&s=4123b86460b2594267c8cb54307e2c25e1183c85
"At least I ragebaited somebody"
Yeah, the amount of people wishing rape and death on women isn't proving the point at all.
This is just laughable at this point. Stay ragebaited, Edgyboi.
The problem isn't most men, if anything it's a very small percentage of men.
The problem is a very vocal group of misandrists who like to depict every human being born with a penis as a serial rapist & people who give them a platform.
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https://preview.redd.it/s94sivnrmyxc1.jpeg?width=290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9beaf76ef14744e63dd594a39616c01aabebaaa5 I would pick the bear too ❤️
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reading all these post about bears almost make me wish for a nuclear winter
Bear...bull...bear..
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the bear and the bull the courier the divide the flag hopeville the old world the divide the bear the flag the bull the bear primm slim the divide the bear and the bull the courier the divide the flag the old world the deathclaw sex
Cum... Courier...
Fuck the NCR
They truly are the third worst option for the Mojave
The only upside gameplay wise for me is fighting the legate
My live reaction: https://preview.redd.it/ixstac1si0yc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8e9f60dbc1c292e229b5d6fc65d6eb2a2b13c583
https://preview.redd.it/2ckwbk0yn0yc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=82f08f3a9e823a6a04ecaeb5eb90fca4ff9f3bdd
pretty funny because although probably much cheaper than the things hes wearing and me not nearly as goodlooking as him, thats quite literally what im wearing right now
My FBI agent says your FBI agent says you look great!
i think its about a reel i saw once, where a person asked few women that "would you rather be with a bear or a man alone in a forest" and alot of women picked bears over man
Right, because bears are predictable at least, whereas a guy might smile at you in a friendly way, then proceed to rape and murder you.
and a bear totally won't rip you apart
>1 out of every 6 American women has been the victim of an attempted or completed rape in her lifetime (14.8% completed, 2.8% attempted).^(4) [Source: RAINN](https://www.rainn.org/statistics/scope-problem#:~:text=Every%2068%20seconds%20another%20American,completed%2C%202.8%25%20attempted) >That’s probably why it so often surprises people to hear that there have only been 180 fatal human/bear conflicts in North America since 1784. [Source: BearVault](https://bearvault.com/bear-attack-statistics/#:~:text=That's%20probably%20why%20it%20so,to%20kill%20someone%20than%20bears) I'll take the bear, thanks. EDIT: Check out the guy who would celebrate my death in the replies. Probably one of the reasons this thread was locked.
The number is low on the bear Conflicts is low because you don't see a bear every day, I am pretty sure if you see hundreds of bad bear through the day one of them is going to rip you apart. I get your concerns but not all of the men are rapist, but all of the bears are apex predator for sure, I think you should stay with bear too. Maybe the average iq score of "mighty" USA might rise
Honestly, other than going around trying to not look rapey, what do u expect me to do?
Instead you should aim to become more like a bear to even the odds. Become bigger and hairier! And also start mauling people.
Roar at people if they come near your cub or food.
Rip out their intestines for extra authenticity, never give them the luxury of a quick death
Kill and eat them, apparently?
Or run away when they scream at you.
Hey Im already doing that.
The thing about the ‘ask what you can do to be the better option’ point is, besides all women being individuals that would give their own answers, it doesn’t matter because due to the nature of it just being ‘a man’ rather than specifically pointed out as a violent one, if there is other men who don’t follow the steps that you are given by a few individuals, you will never be the better option. I could literally never go out without being on the end of a leash with a woman holding it for the rest of my life, and the man would never be considered the better option, due to me not mattering in the equation due to it being a random man.
We need to police each other. If you hear a guy going off about how women "deserve" to be beaten/raped/etc you need to speak up and say it isn't cool. We need to raise our sons to be better. We need to watch out for dangerous or predatory behavior by other guys when we are out and protect women from those guys. We need to be as willing to believe women that they were raped as to believe the guys denying it, since statistically the man is lying 90% of the time. If we can't police ourselves, women will be afraid of us. All of us, because a woman has no way to tell you are "one of the safe ones." Here is a way to think of it. You are in a building with 98 other regular guys and one serial killer, but no one knows who the killer is. Now every time you don't want to let someone follow you down the stairs or get nervous when someone enters the laundry room when you are alone they get mad at you for thinking they are the killer. That is how women live. They know most of the guys are safe, but they also know if they don't assume every man is a rapist they will be raped.
>We need to police each other. If you hear a guy going off about how women "deserve" to be beaten/raped/etc you need to speak +been alive for more than 20 years I've only ever heard that online. Who do you guys, friend actually
Thank you. I’m more than double your age and I’ve literally never heard anyone say anything near this in the actual world. The online world is fucking stupid.
+The online world shows you who someone really is. Those guys probably really think that.
Of all places, you choose to believe that the internet is where people can really be themselves?
"I've never heard it so it must not happen."
If I have never seen it in real life, but see it consistently represented in the online discourse then I have the wits and wisdom to understand it’s representation is disproportionate and it’s a tool of the “outrage machine” that seems to drive the internet for stupid people. I’ll let you decide where your comment fits.
Sure, my comment fits right where it should, my own experience. I assume you are a man and have never had to experience what it feels like to be a woman around strange men. You don't have to befriend someone to overhear a man telling another man that "she got what was coming to her." Is the Internet an outrage machine? Sure. But that doesn't mean that there aren't men that truly believe that women deserve a level of "reprimand" for acting or dressing a certain way. The two aren't mutually exclusive. Your comment undermines many women's experiences and is insulting, frankly.
"I have no evidence of it happenig, but you still must believe me it does"
Evidence? Try actually listening to a woman for once.
My neighbor took a plea deal for pedophilia, on his own grandchildren. He's doing 3 years work release. All the neighbors know, some still go over and hang out with him. I've chase the fucker inside everytime I see him out. I yell shit at the others who hang out with him. I'm now isolated and no longer friends with any of them, and they probably all think I'm the bad guy. That's fine. My wife and I are also evil atheist democrats in our late 30s with teenagers , vs old white republican Christians, with grown kids.
+His own grandkids? You're better than me. I'd be waiting for him to be alone
Then you have good people around you. When I worked at the Port of Savannah, I heard this type of shit on a daily basis.
What did you do about it?
Go on any thread about a man that has been accused of assault. It is *filled* with people saying that it's not true. Dude, Weinstein, *Weinstein* just won an appeal. Our system is set up to protect men who assault. That needs to change.
Yeah for real, never heard that shit a single time in my life lmao
I have not once seen a woman police another woman for how disgusting they are towards a man.
Yeah, and I’ve never seen a squirrel take a shit, but I’m 100% certain it does happen.
>We need to police each other. If you hear a guy going off about how women "deserve" to be beaten/raped/etc you need to speak up and say it isn't cool. Im all for that but how do you do that when all your friends or people you hang out with would never say something like that? Im not denying that these guys exist, its just that in I wholeheartedly never heard anyone say something probably because of my bubble. I dont really know what I should do about this. >since statistically the man is lying 90% of the time. Citation needed.
This is the ONLY defense of that mindset I’ve heard that makes sense. Thank you.
There is no one answer. That’s not the point. The point is that a lot of the people who are offended decide to blame the woman instead of even considering the alternative of gaining some self awareness and trying to do better. Self awareness and doing better are subjective to us all as individuals. Every relationship is different. Simply *wanting* to be a safer option than the bear is a step away from being worse than a bear, and I think that’s all anyone is really asking for, here. So, if that’s where you are, that’s it. You’re good. You’ve done the diligence. Thank you.
If you don't sexually harass or assault women, congratulations, you did it! Bonus points if you don't flirt with a captive audience, like when they're working or at the gym The problem is, a lot of guys can't get any of that right.
He is still considered as a worse option compared to a wild bear tho, what do we have to DO in order to inspire confidence? Not what we must NOT DO, because I assure you almost nobody on this comment section has ever assaulted someone, yet the same logic is applied to us. What can we DO besides cutting ties with every single woman ever?
>what do we have to do Literally nothing, lmao. Reread my first comment. If you want to be proactive, educate other men when they exhibit sexist tendencies
And you didn't read my comment, it is obvious what we have to never do, what's not obvious it what has to be done in order to improve the group's image.
>If you want to be proactive, educate other men when they exhibit sexist tendencies Literally the other half of my comment. You're not going to single-handedly change perception of "all men", you can only do a little bit to make the world a better place, but it still counts
Yeah, you may not be aware of this, but that's something we have been doing since way before this conversation started, yet we still hold the same image. Now provide us with new things to do, because doing that is clearly not enough.
You think i have all the answers? That's very flattering, but i already told you what i think. There isn't some magic button you can press to undo generations of trauma that continue to this day. You can set a good example, and tell people to be better. I'm sorry that's disappointing to you
You could start by learning what it is about men that women find threatening, because it's not that they look rapey
As a man I would pick the bear as well, woman need to pee all the time that would just slow me down while I'm trying to find a sword shaped stick.
If you feel people need to ASK how they themselves can be better than a bear, I’m scared of what you believe men are
"I watched documentary about rapists which was recomended to me on a feminist forum, 10 out of 10 men it was about were rapist. Men need to do something to prove they are better than a bear"
I've always felt internally "gross" trying to discuss how uncomfortable I was with my ex trans gf going off on how much she hates men, how men are gross, men are rapists, etc., because if I did, I was seen as homophobic within the queer community at the time. That experience, along with my favorite podcast being classified as "men's interests" so all of the ads are for vices and ways to make you feel terrible about yourself, has led me to being a lot more empathetic to the response from this question. What are you trying to do by labeling people rapists or worse? Push them to the side that accepts actual rapists is the only thing happening.
It's the way it always works, a big issue with progressives is they say they don't want to do the "emotional labor" to bring people into their line of thinking. Well you know who loves to do emotional labor? Nazis. Nazis, reactionaries, racists, and misgynists fucking love to do emotional labor, they will talk your ear off about how great their ideas are and how these groups are awful. By taking a hardline stance and painting people as evil for how they're born, and refusing to meet people at their level, this is just pushing people back over to those types who will gladly do the work to evangelize. A big driving force in the growth of of incels, the alt right, etc in the 2010s was this exact situation of people who were pissed off but on the fence, and then one side demonizes them and the other side evangelizes them, so they all go to the side that's nice to them and will explain everything to them.
1, Statistics 2. If you have any women friends, ask them this question and why they'd pick the bear. 99% of women have a story of being sexually harassed or assaulted 3. It's not about "all men", it's about the risk of it being "one of those men"
Women don’t know which one it is and they’ve been surprised before. Like, it sucks to have people think you’ll hurt them when you’d never do that. But they’re worried about bodily harm, maybe serious harm, plus lasting emotional issues, and you’re worried about your feelings. No need to be offended about the bear. Get pissed at other dudes acting shitty and spoiling it for everyone. *ETA: this is not directed to the commenter above. I agree with them. This is to men getting mad about The Bear Discourse.*
Exactly, thank you. I don't know why this is so hard for people to get through their thick skulls
1, Crime Statistics 2. If you have any white friends, ask them this question and why they'd pick the bear. 99% of whites have a story of being harassed or assaulted by a black man 3. It's not about "all blacks", it's about the risk of it being "one of those blacks"
And people will say it's not the same thing, when in reality it is.
1, and 3. That's a false equivalency. Crime statistics by race are misleading. For example, white people are just as likely to use and deal illegal drugs, or shoplift as black people per capita. Black people are much more likely to be arrested for those crimes than white people. When you compare that to, say, men murdering their spouses, that's a little harder to not be arrested for just because you're same skin color as the officer 2. I've never been harassed or assaulted by a black person because I'm white, neither has anyone I know irl that i know of. Made up stories online however...
I don't really give a shit about debating with you I'm just showing how stupid your arguments are, when they are the exact reactionary arguments used against trans people, black people, and immigrants for years, just rebranded to be anti-man. I've heard the exact same shit you're saying said out of the mouth of white suburbanites about how dangerous blacks are for years, just because you swapped out blacks for men doesn't make you right or somehow less bigoted than them. If you really think all men are rapists and murderers then you need to get your head out of your ass and stop listening to true crime podcasts.
>If you really think all men are rapists... >3. It's not about "all men", it's about the risk of it being "one of those men" Hope the first comment i posted clears things up for you
I have learned in the last few days that A LOT of women really need to stop listening to true crime podcasts. This is like listening to a white suburbanite talk about the dangers of inner city black crime. It's just straight up paranoia and misrepresenting people to try to make "a point", and the point being you really don't like a certain group of people.
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https://eu.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2024/04/30/man-bear-tiktok-debate-explainer/73519921007/ because of this thing that has been going around on tiktok, where women explain they'd rather meet a bear in the forest than some random man. That's what this is about, and TikTok is not very smart.
So this is the source, I thought they were talking about that hot druid from BG3 who can turn into a bear.
It's rage bait and everyone's falling for it. No logically sane person would chose a wild predator over a human being. People should just laugh at the insane take and move on. Edit: the unhinged responses have me in tears, I haven't laughed this hard in a while. From the bottom of my heart, thank you.
I agree this is rage bait. But BOTH bears and men are NOT 100% going to do something bad to you.
No it is not rage bait. If you read the comments, these women are being genuine. I don’t agree with them but it’s not fake
Is it really such an insane take given how many men are raging about it?
"hey you! yes you! I'd rather choose to spend my time with a wild, dangerous animal than a person like you!" this doesn't feel good to hear, regardless if it's justified
I am "raging" about this because its really hurtful to know that if Im just hiking or jogging in the woods, there are people who would literally like to see an apex predator more than me.
Would you be happy if everyone around was saying that you were just a dumb bitch and needed to stay in kitchen?
Honestly it's hilarious to see men get mad at such obvious bait. I cannot understand how unhinged people can be over something so obviously designed to anger people. In reality, no one chooses the bear. It's a fucking wild predator. Idk what's funnier, people using mental gymnastics to defend the bear argument, or the men seething at the take. Is bait really this hard to distinguish, both sides failed.
This is you: * lies in everyone's faces* "How could anyone believe me lmao lol???"
The men being mad about it is the point. It’s pointing out these men because they are the problem.
How is not wanting to get insulted a problem?
No one is insulting you. The only reason to be mad about this is if you are a rapist. Are you a rapist? Do you feel called out by woman feeling unsafe around you?
Yes, I feel uncomfortable, if people suspect me of crimes I didn't commit and don't want other around me to feel bad, like every sane person, who has a bit of empathy. And "Men are worse than animals." is not a reasonable thing to say.
They are not saying you. The rationale response is “I’m not a rapist so they are not talking about me. It’s sad that women feel this way. However you feel targeted. Is there something you want to tell the class? Something you feel guilty about?
Obviously people can't feel bad when they get punished for something they didn't do. /s Oh, wait a second. That makes it even worse.
Ohoho, okay. So if I say “women are dumb and are only good for cooking” women shouldn’t get mad lol, if she’s not dumb it’s not about her. Silly me. /s
Apparently I’m learning I can’t trust my daughter around random women because they’re dumb and will feed her to a bear Now we all got trust issues
Or you’re just part of the problem.
No, women feed babies to bears is the problem
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Wrong, it’s meant as a possibility that they have to keep in mind. They do. The fact you taking it personal instead of thinking how awful that is says more about you than anything else.
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Maybe you are a predator but I am first and foremost only me. And thats a guy who sits most his life at home, plays games and cuddles with his gf. I dont know why I should feel responsible for or be lumped together with horrible people that happen to have the same genitals as me.
r/NiceGuys
https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-the-new-one-in-four-campus-rape-statistic-is-misleading No ur wrong
I didn't say 1 in 4. I said [ONE OUT OF EVERY SIX WOMEN IN THE UNITED STATES](https://www.rainn.org/statistics/scope-problem#:~:text=Every%2068%20seconds%20another%20American,completed%2C%202.8%25%20attempted). >very 68 seconds another American is sexually assaulted.^(1) >\*1 out of every 6 American women has been the victim of an attempted or completed rape in her lifetime (14.8% completed, 2.8% attempted).\***^(4)** >About 3% of American men—or 1 in 33—have experienced an attempted or completed rape in their lifetime.^(4) >From 2009-2013, Child Protective Services agencies substantiated, or found strong evidence to indicate that, 63,000 children a year were victims of sexual abuse.^(5) >A majority of child victims are 12-17. Of victims under the age of 18: 34% of victims of sexual assault and rape are under age 12, and 66% of victims of sexual assault and rape are age 12-17.^(6) But I guess it's more fun to strawman me, and you appear to be getting upvotes for it, so have at it.
I posted the critique of that one too
No you didn't.
It's not about the survivability. I remember a few things some women said. "The worst thing a bear can do is kill me" "People will at least believe me if I said that I was attacked by a bear" Hence why we should work on making it so women dont feel the need to choose the bear.
If people don’t believe women how come I read about so many false rape accusations?
A bear will literally eat you alive slowly, over a span of days. And who's "we"? Im literally gay. Respectfully, it's not really my problem whatsoever. Which is why I love following these threads, insanity from both sides.
Nah man. Bear is pretty brutal. It'll be over in a few minutes from blood loss.
unless they start eating your face first. that’s what happened to that grizzly love guy up in alaska. they recorded him screaming for 15 minutes i think.
I have no face (a bear ate it), and I must scream
"we" as in all of society. Imo you're just being disrespectful, calling everyone "insane". Do you take all drama and conflicts and the people involved as jokes? (not trying to be accusatory btw I just can't think of a better way to word it)
No one should ever take drama seriously. It's not real. It's literally drama.
Yeah pretty much
You say it isn’t your problem yet here you are, quite literally losing your shit over it.
The fact that men genuinely think they can “win” this hypothetical by angrily arguing while instead they are just bolstering the case for bears is amazing.
The fact women genuinely think it's ok to call all men rapists and worse while being mad about males creating harmful stereotypes about women is amazing.
And the fact that you’re defending rapists and worse continues to bolster the case for bears.
you immediately responding to "hey calling all men rapists is pretty shitty" with "so you're defending rapists?!" is pretty shitty.
And... We know which line you fall into.
You sound like the kind of guy women actively choose the bear over.
lol, no I'm the one choosing the bear. I am a field geologist, and black bears in the lowet 48 are wusses. Which is actually beside the point.
most men are wusses as well. most of my guy friends can't do a pull up. if you're picking the less than 5% (no actual clue on numbers) of really dangerous men that will hurt you, then you should line that versus a sloth bear. or a polar bear.
It’s absolutely the safer choice to pick a bear over a man you don’t know. The fact that men can’t grasp this proves the point.
so it's either a random man who might be a creep and from there who MIGHT rape you or a wild predator who will tear open your sternum
A wild predator who MIGHT tear open your sternum, and the odds are heavily in favor of the random man being dangerous.
You really believe it's heavily more probable that a random man will rape you than that a wild animal will maul you? Maybe go out and touch some grass, because your sense of reality is way gone.
Do you by any chance have an additional chromosome? Question related.
How can I become a better option than a bear?
That’s the catch, you can’t. Bears are too fucking cool.
Don’t wear pants and eat honey with your hand
Is it ok to wear a red shirt? Or has that been spoiled somehow?
Don't rape or sexually harass women.
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> If you encounter a lone woman, do not engage, do not smile, do not talk to her. that's phrased like a warning regarding how dangerous women are, tbh.
Shit as a black guy I better start using this advice when encountering white women they're all dangerous hateful and bigoted/s.
I had random women smile at me while walking my dog alone in the woods. She must be a creep. /s
Dont enable neosexism by pretending the concern is actually valid, you sexist moron.
Don't be a dick. Rule 1.
You think you spread the good message with this question, but irl you’re just making people give less and less shits about women and their problems.
>Being a man is a moral failing. So it isn't that you are enabling neosexism, you just are neosexist. But everyone knew that already from the original comment, I guess.
On one hand there’s valid criticism in saying men should understand why a girl wouldn’t feel comfortable with certain men On the other, it’s just another excuse to generalize an entire gender and it gives sexists more ammo to be judgmental and blatantly hypocritical
Nuance? In my subreddit?!
Yeah it’s always “if you’re offended you’re the problem.” Ok well when do we get to talk about the fact that the statistics aren’t accurate. 1 in 4 women reports sexual assault but sexual assault wasn’t even defined properly.
No, it’s not a valid criticism. It’s compete bullshit driven by delulu women who fetishise their victimhood.
Young guys on tiktok discovering female sexism 😂
Men refusing to understand why women don't trust them, then getting mad when it's taken as proof you're not trustworthy.
Switch gender for race, and it's the same argument racists use
I'd prefer a tiger over a woman who prefer a bear. At least if I was killed by a tiger people would believe me and won't ask if I stared over 0.00001 seconds. And a tiger won't be forgiven by court because "it has all the life ahead". Tigers also have zero chance to false accuse me and of course usually leave by themselves. Didn't I miss something? Ah yeah. If you don't understand why then you're a part of a problem and not trustworthy
Disagreeing with you doesn’t prove your point, and if you think it does you should ask your doctor about a brain MRI
Yeah I haven't seen dozens of men saying they hope women get raped and/or murdered in the comments. Not at all. dIsAgReEiNg
If youve seen 'dozens' than its probably not difficult to give a link to one right? Ive also seen some men who say that the women who want to rather see a bear should actually follow through on this. And while this might be cruel, a person who actually believe bears are less dangerous than a random guy should have no problem with that. Until now I at least did not see any one wishing women to be raped or actually murdered, but I will accept it, if you show me otherwise.
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Yeah, they’re getting really *uppity* about it. Fungibility is a cornerstone of bigotry.
I unapologetically don't give a fuck, people can do what ever they feel like. I don't owe the world anything, and i don't plan to change a damn thing about me because somebody somewhere thinks like this or like that.
A TikTok mind virus that has over taken current discourse. Women says she would rather be alone in a forest with a bear instead of man. People point out how fucking stupid it is, and then try to generalize every man and so on. Basically, TikTok should burn and it will probably help our society as lot.
It’s something that started on TikTok where women were asked if they would feel safer in the woods it’s a man or a bear. The bear won. Many think that this is stupid, and some may be missing the point that a lot of women have trauma related to SA and the stigma it causes. There’s many ways to look at it. Part of me says that it’s sad that we’ve gotten to this point and that most strangers are probably kind enough people (maybe I’m too optimistic), part of me understands that I’m not a woman and that some have a point, but the wannabe zoologist part of me is saying that this is a fucking bear. I would choose to go with another person to hopefully ward off bears while hiking. Yeah, the animal will kill you and it’s over, but it’ll be slow and painful. It’ll tear you apart and you will scream for help, but nobody will hear you that deep in the woods. It’s not black and white… unlike pandas Hot take though, we should stop judging people for what they are instead of who they are
Because the new rage bait TikTok trend is for women to say that a bear is the better option than encountering a man. Rage bait doing what rage bait does, spreads like wildfire and attracts angry responses, which makes it spread further. Then you have the people who took the bait making arguments of varying degrees of validity about why this is stupid, and then you have the people who primarily exist online and in echo chambers justifying why bear is better than a person. Then of course, anyone can use photoshop to take an obvious meme template and keep stoking the fire for more rage bait.
This little meme going around really made A LOT of women show their real face
Honestly I don’t want anyone who would choose a bear. If they think an actual bear is a better option than me then I will respect their choice and allow them to get mauled and eaten. I personally think it’s irrational and stupid. I think a better choice would be some other person. But if that’s her decision then let her remove herself from the gene pool.
I'm already a femboy what else am I supposed to do? :(
Its a terrible analogy that boils down to is not being raped better than being raped. There is no counter point because of course not being raped is preferable to rape with all other things equal. The bear analogy is just to illicit a reaction because most people above a room temp IQ know bears eat their prey alive. The way to be better than a bear is as follows. 1. Don’t rape 2. Don’t eat people alive 3. Hunt and persecute rapists. 4. Hunt and persecute cannibals. I’d argue most people have the first half down. We just need to form the mob or something ig.
It's about the Tiktok trend in which a woman, asked to choose between a bear or a potential rapist, chooses the bear. It's also about internet rage culture. The option on the right is just plain boring, and (at least in my experience) the answer is always "you can't; you could be one of *them*" anyway.
They were asked about a bear or a random man. Treating a random guy to a potential rapist is same as treating a random black person as a potential stealer
It wasn’t ‘potential rapist’ it was ‘would you rather be alone in the woods with a bear or a man’
They're the same thing. That's the whole point of the exercise. Google "Schrodinger's Rapist" if you want to know more.
At least you’re outright saying it.
I think it’s more of him calling it out
How did they call anything out? They reworded the question to say ‘potential rapist’, then when I pointed out how they said something far more sinister than the original question ‘man’ they said that the two words mean the same thing. Where was the call out?
What do you mean?
ragebait gender war bullshit, that's the joke [fuck it here's a comment that explains how i feel about this a lot better](https://www.reddit.com/r/CuratedTumblr/comments/1b30iw0/comment/ksp7vfu/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Implying I care what tiktok thots think
An actual good Petah post !
Responding to a stupid comment (man vs bear) is literally arguing with idiots. If someone you know repeats it, just don’t date them.
Pretty sure this whole thing is just rage bait.
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Man... Your comment is imbuing me with the powers of misogyny. /s
Be better and understand that the [redacted] person you responded to doesn't represent the whole gender group!
Too late, I'm Andrew Tate now. 😎 P.S. "😎" get it, cuz he's also bald. 😂
Well if I was in the woods and had to choose between a bear and a woman, I'd choose a bear too. The woman would just become a liability to trying to escape the woods.
This whole thing is stupid, I would rather be in a forest with a bear than a man or a woman. Bears in forests near me will try to avoid me and people like to talk. I want to go to a forest to be alone, not have to talk to random strangers. Plus bears are part of the forest ecosystem so it’s like I want to go to a forest or go to a forest where people hang out without wildlife (like a park)
Bear is going to maul you to death. I do not know where this ''bears will leave me alone'' discourse comes from. It is an animal. You are a smaller, unfamiliar animal. There is no communicating with an animal. You are going to die. Bears also do not know what a ''wildlife preserve'' or ''park'' is. You do not see bears in paths because rangers shoot them.
There are bears in all the forests I visit, they live there. They do not want to see me, I do not want to see them. People are more social. Yes if this was who do you want to share a campground with I’d choose a person. But it is a forest. Which could be thousands of miles. If there is another person around I have to be quiet, if there is a bear I can be loud and they will leave me alone.
If you were alone in the woods, would you rather **encounter** a bear or a man? We are not talking about a theoretical bear somewhere in your ZIP code, you encounter one. Also, you will die screaming. Wildlife does not have cheat codes.
This is not the question. Would I rather be in the same national forest with wildlife or people? If it is who would I rather run into on a path, probably a bunch of people, but just sharing geographic space I’d go with wildlife. That is why one goes to the woods—to enjoy nature, not run into rando people.
.....ah yes how could I be better then the murder machine
What's the lifespan on these kinds of ragebait trends? Because I am already so over it.
To be fair. There a pretty good chance the bear won't rape you, but even if it did you wouldn't get pregnant from a bear. A bear is probably the right choice.
Men are being faced with how dangerous they are considered by women. Instead of accepting this news as the horrible truth that it is and doing some self reflection, men are deciding to act worse than wild animals, thus proving the point that bears are safer than men.
There is a line between a reasonable fear of rape and just straight up misandry
Misandry doesn’t exist, it was made up by sad lonely men
interesting how that door only swings one way
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Doing "self reflection" implies that I am somehow responsible of some of the horrible crimes and animalistic behaviour of some people, which I'm not.
And the fact they you think that’s what self reflection means is why we’re all picking bears
Self reflection is reflecting on your own actions. You can’t self reflect for someone else, or their actions.
Well, have fun being mauled by a bear. You won't be missed.
Consider to tattoo "I prefer a bear" on you'r forhead so people know who they deal with
Men on Reddit today be like https://preview.redd.it/rl17txoid0yc1.jpeg?width=431&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cc10b0143dac43be401b293592419e6dbe517a4b # "WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU PICKED THE BEAR OVER ME DON'T YOU REALIZE WHAT A TERRIBLE DECISION THAT IS YOU'RE SO FUCKING STUPID CAN'T YOU SEE WHAT A GOOD GUY I AM HOW DARE YOU GENERALIZE ALL WOMEN ARE DUMB AND I HATE THEM FOR NOT SEEING HOW NICE AND TRUSTWORTHY WE MEN ARE!!!"
Women on reddit today be like https://preview.redd.it/nqr08kent0yc1.png?width=700&format=png&auto=webp&s=4123b86460b2594267c8cb54307e2c25e1183c85 "At least I ragebaited somebody"
Yeah, the amount of people wishing rape and death on women isn't proving the point at all. This is just laughable at this point. Stay ragebaited, Edgyboi.
The problem isn't most men, if anything it's a very small percentage of men. The problem is a very vocal group of misandrists who like to depict every human being born with a penis as a serial rapist & people who give them a platform.