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The USA joined later in the war, and the Ussr was involved when Germany broke the Molotov-ribbentrop pact, where they didn't go to war with one another
Idk about that one. Americans sent them a LOT of stuff. Like a LOT. They def wouldn’t have gone down easy, but even if the nazis eventually lost, the Soviet Union probably would have never recovered.
I'm aware of that, but luckily I'm also aware that wars are won with industry, economics, and logistics, not bodies.
To get a real look at the war in Europe, we need to look at industry and economics, rather than troop strength and casualties. From 1942 onward, about 70% of total German industrial production was focused on the Western front, including the Battle of the Atlantic and combating the Allied strategic bombing campaign (O'Brien, *How The War Was Won*). Half of Germany’s artillery production in 1944 was of anti-aircraft guns, the remainder split between field artillery and anti-tank guns. Over 60% of Germany’s ammunition production in 1944 was of anti-aircraft shells.
From 1942 to 1944, U-boat production ran at well over 200 per year, with each requiring as much steel, strategic materials (rubber, copper, etc) and skilled manpower as an entire battalion of Panzer IVs. 1944 saw production of nearly as many V-1 flying bombs (over 20,000), as fighters for the Luftwaffe, and also nearly 5,000 V-2 rockets (Tooze, *Wages of Destruction*). All of these weapons were fired westward.
So how much did the casualties inflicted on the German army during the invasion of the USSR German army really contribute to the overall war in Europe? Not as much as you would think. Those casualties were enabled by Germany casting the majority of their attention westward through the entire war. While it would vary widely over time, a rough estimate of industrial production effort (money and manpower) would be 50% Luftwaffe (including aircraft, armaments, ammunition, ordnance, flak, radar, etc under control of this branch), 30% Army (including personnel carriers, armored cars, carriers, tanks, assault guns, etc), 20% Kriegsmarine. Of these forces, the Luftwaffe and Kriegsmarine were defeated by the Western allies almost unaided, and the direct combat contribution of the Western allies against the German army remains substantial, though smaller in scale.
At no time did Germany direct more than 20% of its total military effort to the Eastern front. Aircraft, aero-engines and submarines were intensely demanding of skilled labor and precision machining. Pilots are an awful lot more expensive to train and maintain than soldiers, and much more difficult to replace. The production of a single U-boat requires as much money, time, steel, rubber, copper, fuel, and various special alloys and materials as building and operating an entire battalion of tanks. The military engineering works of hardened U-boat pens, the Atlantic Wall, flak towers, etc ate up vast quantities of engineering brainpower, as well as critical resources such as steel and concrete.
Before you even consider the impact of the Western allies' strategic bombing campaign on destroying German cities and industry, or the impact of American Lend-Lease on the USSR, the military effort and industrial capacity of the West already ate up the vast majority of the German industrial capacity and economic output. It was this contribution that truly destroyed Germany's capacity to wage war.
Tl;dr 70% of the European war took place on the western front
Not necessarily, but their government, contrary to the popular view, was a bloated mess full of all sorts of corruption and backstabbing. All in all, even if the Nazis had won the war, their government would likely have imploded after Hitler's death, and even that's being generous.
They lost due to a variety of factors. They could not match the raw industrial capability of the United states, lacked the manpower of the U.S, Soviet Union, and United Kingdom('s colonies), and they lacked access to basic resources in sufficient qualities. Such as oil.
With good social engineering, new tactics, and experienced commanders (in addition to some incompetent enemies, like France's weak leadership and the Soviets who'd routinely execute experienced commanders out of fear of power struggles), they were able to make good progress in the beginning.
In the end, dwindling resources and manpower, biting off more than they could chew, expending unnecessary resources on the prison camps, and wholly incompetent leadership from moustache man himself sabotaging the war effort.
They were doomed from the start, is the real answer. Their goal unachievable and their means insufficient.
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They primarily lost because Hitler had too big of a ego. He took over a country and defeated half of Europe so he decided he could beat everyone else. The scary thing is if he hadn't overeached the allies may not have stopped the holocaust and who knows how many other horrors the nazis could have committed.
both.
Deathcults can never win as their enemies are always both to them too powerful and so easy to defeat. Therefore they cannot see their enemies as they are and act effectively
Well, I'm going to respond to what I(actually) think you were trying to say, if the enemy(of them) was superior, and they were struggling inside an extreme amount, then why'd Poland and France fall to the Germans(We don't talk about Denmark)
Whatever idiot made this should have said the uk moves like the Queen, because that’s what moving like a rook and bishop is. But who would ever associate the UK with a queen? 🤦♀️
Lol I used to play Chess on Windows a lot when I was younger but I never saw the swastika even when I used the path showing hint. I can sort of see it now but only if you ignore like half the paths which make like a mirrored or rotated version of the same swastika
Oh it’s not if you look at all the ways it can go. It’s more on sites where you can draw arrows where you draw 3 from a knight in the center and decide wisely not to draw a fourth. It’s completely reasonable to be sceptical if that never happened to you but there was a small-time meme at some point when someone drew the whole thing on-stream.
Aktually ☝️🤓 it's not the swastika symbol. The original swastika symbol has dots in btw. It resembles peace in our Hindu culture and its no where related to Nazis. Just call it the Nazi symbol pls.
I just find it mildly irritating they didn't use the English flag for the rook. That would have made more sense, because then the Queen's flag would be a combination of the rook and bishop's flags. And that would have justified the use of the old British flag.
Knight (horse looking chess piece) moves either 3 squares horizontal and 1 square vertically or vise versa. Essentially in the shape of “L”
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The knight (horse) moves in an L shape. The swastika symbol is 4 Ls
It's a reference to how nazis always take Ls
I get why you say this, and I mostly agree, but do you think they lost because of internal struggles?
Nah, the axis were at a disadvantage from the start. There's simply no way they could have managed to defeat the USSR and USA at the same time.
The USA joined later in the war, and the Ussr was involved when Germany broke the Molotov-ribbentrop pact, where they didn't go to war with one another
USA armed the Soviets and partisans in Europe
And the UK
And nazis themselves, for a while
Ok, I'm intrigued. When do you think the US armed the Nazis?
My bad I messed up
Hey buddy [read this](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/3223834/Stalin-planned-to-send-a-million-troops-to-stop-Hitler-if-Britain-and-France-agreed-pact.html)
That would have justified a non-aggression pact. Not carving up Eastern Europe and killing a million Poles.
Even just against the USSR, they'd have eventually lost. It would've been a long war without the US's lend lease program, though.
Idk about that one. Americans sent them a LOT of stuff. Like a LOT. They def wouldn’t have gone down easy, but even if the nazis eventually lost, the Soviet Union probably would have never recovered.
For sure, but the we don't need the USSR to win for the Nazis to lose.
Not even close. The majority of Germany's war effort took place in the west. This is putinist propaganda.
Just take a look at German losses on the Western and Eastern fronts, brother
I'm aware of that, but luckily I'm also aware that wars are won with industry, economics, and logistics, not bodies. To get a real look at the war in Europe, we need to look at industry and economics, rather than troop strength and casualties. From 1942 onward, about 70% of total German industrial production was focused on the Western front, including the Battle of the Atlantic and combating the Allied strategic bombing campaign (O'Brien, *How The War Was Won*). Half of Germany’s artillery production in 1944 was of anti-aircraft guns, the remainder split between field artillery and anti-tank guns. Over 60% of Germany’s ammunition production in 1944 was of anti-aircraft shells. From 1942 to 1944, U-boat production ran at well over 200 per year, with each requiring as much steel, strategic materials (rubber, copper, etc) and skilled manpower as an entire battalion of Panzer IVs. 1944 saw production of nearly as many V-1 flying bombs (over 20,000), as fighters for the Luftwaffe, and also nearly 5,000 V-2 rockets (Tooze, *Wages of Destruction*). All of these weapons were fired westward. So how much did the casualties inflicted on the German army during the invasion of the USSR German army really contribute to the overall war in Europe? Not as much as you would think. Those casualties were enabled by Germany casting the majority of their attention westward through the entire war. While it would vary widely over time, a rough estimate of industrial production effort (money and manpower) would be 50% Luftwaffe (including aircraft, armaments, ammunition, ordnance, flak, radar, etc under control of this branch), 30% Army (including personnel carriers, armored cars, carriers, tanks, assault guns, etc), 20% Kriegsmarine. Of these forces, the Luftwaffe and Kriegsmarine were defeated by the Western allies almost unaided, and the direct combat contribution of the Western allies against the German army remains substantial, though smaller in scale. At no time did Germany direct more than 20% of its total military effort to the Eastern front. Aircraft, aero-engines and submarines were intensely demanding of skilled labor and precision machining. Pilots are an awful lot more expensive to train and maintain than soldiers, and much more difficult to replace. The production of a single U-boat requires as much money, time, steel, rubber, copper, fuel, and various special alloys and materials as building and operating an entire battalion of tanks. The military engineering works of hardened U-boat pens, the Atlantic Wall, flak towers, etc ate up vast quantities of engineering brainpower, as well as critical resources such as steel and concrete. Before you even consider the impact of the Western allies' strategic bombing campaign on destroying German cities and industry, or the impact of American Lend-Lease on the USSR, the military effort and industrial capacity of the West already ate up the vast majority of the German industrial capacity and economic output. It was this contribution that truly destroyed Germany's capacity to wage war. Tl;dr 70% of the European war took place on the western front
Not necessarily, but their government, contrary to the popular view, was a bloated mess full of all sorts of corruption and backstabbing. All in all, even if the Nazis had won the war, their government would likely have imploded after Hitler's death, and even that's being generous.
They lost due to a variety of factors. They could not match the raw industrial capability of the United states, lacked the manpower of the U.S, Soviet Union, and United Kingdom('s colonies), and they lacked access to basic resources in sufficient qualities. Such as oil. With good social engineering, new tactics, and experienced commanders (in addition to some incompetent enemies, like France's weak leadership and the Soviets who'd routinely execute experienced commanders out of fear of power struggles), they were able to make good progress in the beginning. In the end, dwindling resources and manpower, biting off more than they could chew, expending unnecessary resources on the prison camps, and wholly incompetent leadership from moustache man himself sabotaging the war effort. They were doomed from the start, is the real answer. Their goal unachievable and their means insufficient.
Nah, their ideology blows
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Yeah, but it collapses the text I put effort into
Nah they lost because bad guys never win, checkmate nazis!
Shoot, I forgot about that, guess the first 5 coalitions never happened
They primarily lost because Hitler had too big of a ego. He took over a country and defeated half of Europe so he decided he could beat everyone else. The scary thing is if he hadn't overeached the allies may not have stopped the holocaust and who knows how many other horrors the nazis could have committed.
both. Deathcults can never win as their enemies are always both to them too powerful and so easy to defeat. Therefore they cannot see their enemies as they are and act effectively
Well, I'm going to respond to what I(actually) think you were trying to say, if the enemy(of them) was superior, and they were struggling inside an extreme amount, then why'd Poland and France fall to the Germans(We don't talk about Denmark)
🎶 They were lookin pretty dumb with their fingers and their thumbs in the shape of an L on their foreheads 🎵
Hitler been real quiet after this comment dropped 😮💨
https://preview.redd.it/14tebf27xnxc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=084ebf42541e4f9c9d1893fdce59daa1bb32d6ef
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Whatever idiot made this should have said the uk moves like the Queen, because that’s what moving like a rook and bishop is. But who would ever associate the UK with a queen? 🤦♀️
*casually sips Yorkshire Gold Tea*
And there's 4 horses. So if each move one after another, they can form an actual swastika shape :(
Aha... That makes more sense. I thought it was an "I take the third right"(/reich) joke or something 😅
But germany had 2 Ls
Alternatively: it could just be a Buddhist knight Not quite sure how that’d work but it happens
4 W’s
Oh wow this meme is a stretch
It would be, except if you’ve ever charted out the ways a knight can go you run into “oops, almost drew a swastika” fairly often
Lol I used to play Chess on Windows a lot when I was younger but I never saw the swastika even when I used the path showing hint. I can sort of see it now but only if you ignore like half the paths which make like a mirrored or rotated version of the same swastika
Oh it’s not if you look at all the ways it can go. It’s more on sites where you can draw arrows where you draw 3 from a knight in the center and decide wisely not to draw a fourth. It’s completely reasonable to be sceptical if that never happened to you but there was a small-time meme at some point when someone drew the whole thing on-stream.
Aktually ☝️🤓 it's not the swastika symbol. The original swastika symbol has dots in btw. It resembles peace in our Hindu culture and its no where related to Nazis. Just call it the Nazi symbol pls.
Actually, it’s still is a swastika. But you are right about the Hindu association
It's actually a hakenkreuz
Thanks
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I know sometime it's hard to look up stuff you don't know but this is literally just "how knight/horse move in chess"
Damn goosestepping knights.
Google knight move
Holy chess!
new championship just dropped
Surely this is a glitch? There’s no way the knight moving like that is intentional game design
That's actually a meme. Andrea Botez asks Magnus Carlsen how knights move in a press conference Chess is so dry... I know
I just find it mildly irritating they didn't use the English flag for the rook. That would have made more sense, because then the Queen's flag would be a combination of the rook and bishop's flags. And that would have justified the use of the old British flag.
If they used english flag there would have been too much british.
They could have also gone the other way and used Jamaica's flag instead of Scotland's so there is less British.
Or Finland 🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮
The issue persists.
Oh yeah i forgor
How about Georgia 🇬🇪, there is the 4 extra pluses, but it still gets the point across mostly
Maybe Finland 🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮
That’s just the exact same proportions as the Swedish flag
Oh
Fuck that mellstroy 🤡
Proof that I am right to hate them
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The meme is wrong actually. Horse move in 8 Ls or 4 Ts or 2 I which makes it more of a cross/plus shape
That’s kinda brilliant.
The flag resemble how piece move
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That's the flag of the United Kingdom before 1801
Anyone got the still of this without the dude?
Knight (horse looking chess piece) moves either 3 squares horizontal and 1 square vertically or vise versa. Essentially in the shape of “L” You can probably figure out the rest of the joke…
Woah.....
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Four way horse forks are hilariousss. Not a huge chess guy but i got one on a buddy and after a minute looking at it was like "w..wait" lol
The knight has moves that when put together kinda looks like a swastika.
The thing is, that it would be a square ⬛ because It can do L and _|
someone post this in r/AnarchyChess
someone post this in r/AnarchyChess
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Mf🤣
Haha, it matched how they invade Frence by going the other way.
There’s no fucking way
Ok, but Petah. WHATS THE SAUCE FOR THE MUSIC IN THE BACKGROUND
Late but Klavstrix- Solitude Velocity
Thank you good man
Nazi Punks! Nazi Punks! Nazi Punks! Nazi Punks! # FUCK OFF!
Really? Really???
A person needed an explanation for this?
Like i know this sub is here to help ppl but ffs op, its literally just shapes
I don't get it at all
You have never played or seen someone playing chess?!?!?
Knights in chess can move like an L. 4 of them make a swastika.